Killers by Sign

Angiemima
How many serial killers or mass murderers can you name that are of your sign?

I'm curious to see which sign is the true psycho...
brianafay
Haha. I'm oddly fascinated by serial killers...I swear I'm going into the wrong field. There's a pretty large majority of air signs and scorpio serial killers from what I remember...

For Sagittarius:
Ted Bundy
Raymond Fernandez ("Lonely Hearts Killers")
Wayne Adam Ford (cut victims' breasts off and saved them)
Carlton Michael Gary (raped and killed elderly women)
Edmund Kemper ("Co-ed killer")
~mystic_fish
Interesting topic, there was a similar thread on serial killers awhile back, so thought i would reshare some info..

Serial Killers Description: A serial killer is someone who murders three or more people with a 'cooling off' period between each murder, whose motivation for killing is largely for psychological gratification. All serial killers suffer from some form of Antisocial Personality Disorder but 'rarely' psychopathy. They are usually not psychotic, and thus appear to be quite normal and often even charming, a state of adaptation which Hervey Cleckley calls the "mask of sanity." There is sometimes a sexual element to the murders. The murders may have been completed/attempted in a similar fashion and the victims may have had something in common, for example occupation, race, sex, etc. Also, the victims of a serial killing generally belong to the same race as the killer. The term serial killer is widely believed to have been coined either by FBI agent Robert Ressler or by Dr. Robert D. Keppel in the 1970s (the credit for the term is disputed). Serial killer entered the popular vernacular in large part due to the well-publicized crimes of Ted Bundy and David Berkowitz in the middle years of that decade.


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Here is a list of the MOST prolific serial killers of "ALL" time. (Many or most are non-psychopathic..) Recalling the "mask of sanity."

John Wayne Gacy (Pisces) --water mutable

Richard Ramirez - Night Stalker (Pisces) --water mutable

Aileen Wuornos (Pisces) --water mutable

Dennis Rader - BTK (Pisces) --water mutable

Ottis Toole (Pisces) --water mutable


Henry Lee Lucas (Virgo) --earth mutable
Ed Gein (Virgo) --earth mutable
Albert Desalvo -The Boston Strangler (Virgo)--earth mutable

Ted Bundy (Sagittarius) --fire mutable
Richard Speck (Sagittarius) --fire mutable
Edmund Kemper - Co-ed Killer (Sagittarius) --fire mutable

Jeffry Dahmer (Gemini) --air mutable
David Berkowitz - Son of Sam (Gemini) --air mutable

Others:

Albert Fish (Taurus)
Gary Ridgeway - Green River Killer (Aquarius)
Andrei Chikatilo - Rostuv Ripper (Libra)

--serial killers never caught; Zodiac Killer, Jack The Ripper ..

MOST striking thing I noticed on this list is the EXTREMELY high number of "MUTABLES"!! (watery mutable PISCES being the MOST prevalent, followed by mutables Virgo & Sagittarius, then mutable Gemini.)
james tate
But no capricorns when we kill we do kill in large numbers but we don't get caught. easy way is to go to war then you can get the real thrill you put your aris on the line. To kill when they can't get you first is cowards way. If your going for it get the real thrill.
~mystic_fish
As for Richard Ramirez (The Night Stalker) ..having read the extremely well-written & researched book ever on a serial killer by author Philip Carlo, it was speculated his uncle had a very negative influence in his younger, more impressionable years. Combine that with certain astrological markers, and i'm sure he was on his way. It's (ALL) part of the serial killer chickentail. And yet the most remarkable thing is, there are those people who can have the same or even worse factors and not turn to such extremes. Even in the same family, healthy, happy well-adjusted children and one that is completely opposite. So i do believe there are those who do fall in the cracks, NO MATTER what; perhaps a certain percentage who are born (evil/bad seed).

Here are a few more astrological markers/frequencies found in the Charts of Murderers, Serial Killers, and Mass Murderers.

The following gave results equal to or greater than the cutoff point of 50% above random:

Mars in the 7th house.
Jupiter in the 10th house.
Saturn in the 1st house (gave above average results for both
groups).
Saturn in the 6th house (gave above average results for both
groups).
Uranus in the 8th house.
Neptune in the 7th house (gave above average results for both groups).
Neptune in the 12th house (gave above average results for both groups).
Pluto in the 10th house.
Pluto in the 11th house.

Some other aspects:
Sun in stress aspect to Pluto. Pluto is alleged by astrologers
to rule death.
Sun in conjunction with the Venus/Mars midpoint.
Moon (emotions) in stress aspect to Mars. According to the astrological literature (which is anecdotal) this can give a shortened temper.
Moon in stress aspect to the Ascendant.
Mercury to Mars.
Mercury to Chiron.
Mars to the Moon??s North Node.
Mars to the Sun/Uranus midpoint.
Mars to the Neptune/Pluto midpoint.
Jupiter to the Venus/Ceres midpoint.
Jupiter to the Ceres/Pluto midpoint.
Saturn to Chiron.
Saturn to the 12th house cusp.
Chiron to the Mars/Pluto midpoint.
Chiron to the Venus/Neptune midpoint.
james tate
who was the russian child killer there was a made for Telly movie about the policeman who tracked him down took a lot of years?
natural25
...and they say Scorpios are crazy! HA!
Angiemima
Posted by pubutter
Posted by ~mystic_fish


MOST striking thing I noticed on this list is the EXTREMELY high number of "MUTABLES"!! (watery mutable PISCES being the MOST prevalent, followed by mutables Virgo & Sagittarius, then mutable Gemini.)



I've noticed this, too! I watch a lot of true crime shows and often look up the birthdates of lesser-known serial killers (or just murderers in general), and they're almost always Pisceans, Virgos, Geminis, or Sagittarians. It's so strange.


So much for pisces being a peacekeeper.
i read somewhere that if everyone was a pisces the world would be a much gentler place....
LeoLadyLovesToBeLoved
No Leos!!!! YAY!!! We don't want to tarnish our rep.... aw... see having an ego issue isn't always a bad thing! Gotta love us Lions, we might be loud an dramatic, but at least you don't have to worry about getting offed!

Okay.... disturbing thought..... Out of about six men that have been interested in me over the past several months (granted I didnt date them all) there were two Pisces, three Virgos and one Sag!!!

My Momma always told me I was a freak magnet!! I'm taking notes!
natural25
Posted by eden 3
my hubby grew up in the neighborhood where richard ramirez stalked his prey.


In Diamond Bar, CA??? Well, I know Richard R killed someone in Diamond Bar. My family and I sued to live right around the corner from the lady who he killed.
natural25
Posted by ianthefish
it takes a lot to really get on my bad side... but once your there, your stuck..
in fact there is only one person on my bad side...
but i could easily stick that mothertreetrunker with a knife...
hopefully i never run into him...


Dont do that. I dont think they will allow you to access DXP from prison! Lol.
LeoLadyLovesToBeLoved
Posted by ianthefish
it takes a lot to really get on my bad side... but once your there, your stuck..
in fact there is only one person on my bad side...
but i could easily stick that mothertreetrunker with a knife...
hopefully i never run into him...


My Pisces was like that. The sweetest funniest guy ever, but if you got on his bad side, he would spread your s h i t up! I'm glad I'm a sweetheart and he still loves me!!!! WHEW!!!

Plus, I have blackmail material!!!! spread with me now c o o k i e m o n s t e r!! LOL!! JK.... not really!
natural25
Posted by *Tasha
wait omg last thing about Pisces

haha the guy i lost my virginity to was/is a Pisces

he looks HARMLESS, def not a thug or a bad boy by ANY means. one time i was in his car there was a huuuge knife behind me it scared me i said wtf is that in here for?! he said "oh i was bout to get in a fight...

another time he went up to this girl's job with a knife b/c she was trying to break him and his gf up

no thanks...


Dang! I thought Pisces were passive aggressive. My ex Pisces was really passive. He would avoid conflict at any cost.
natural25
Posted by *Tasha
^ definitely. the man is a joke anyways he was such a turn off he can't even pick me up i was like wowwww is he serious? what a wimp - and i never use that word. i'm not even a big girl (no offense to the big girls) but seriously

idk what he was doing going around trying to stab people but butter i'm good on that. those r the ones too - the ones u least expect


Lol @ no offense to the big girls.

I gotcha. Yea, I am definitely not down with the violence. No guns, knives, nothing! Accidents DO happen and I am not trying to become a statistic. Lol.
natural25
Posted by *Tasha
exactly natural. so i told him stop calling me and now he's married

she can keep his crazy ass. there's nothing cute about that butter


Ahhh ha ha ha! Too funny. But no! There is NOTHING cute about any of that kind of stuff. That is how people end up on the 5 o'clock news. The first indication of "crazy", and I am running for the hills! Lol.
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