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Posted by clayThat was my gut feeling, I don't know whether it's Virgo or not. Haven't compiled all numbers yet so you can guess.
1) Which sign do you think is most liable to commit suicide? Virgo
2) Which element? earth
3) Which modality? mutable
4) Which zodiac axis? Pisces-Virgo
I have to admit I saw that thread so I kinda already know the answer to at least one of the questions (1).
Posted by RommyMindblowing.
I don't think suicide can be attributed to a sign. Astrology is entirely surface based. Internally our emotions and mental state cannot coincide with astrology, maybe a behavior yes but internally we humans are entirely too complex and changing for it to be associated with astrology. Internal mental health is effected by so many factors...astrology couldn't begin to tip the iceberg of how deep things can go.
Suicide is deep, dark, lonely and internally harsh. It comes from a place that is inhuman. It leaves you without any hope and strips you of your dignity to survive and continue on.
If suicide could be attributed to a sign, element, modality or zodiac axis....then psychotherapists are using all the wrong tools to analyze their patients and should all just be picking up "He's just not in the stars" book and doing chart readings for their patients.
Seriously
Alas, we're on the Astrology board.
Posted by DamnataTsk. THAT SHADE.Posted by RommyMindblowing.
I don't think suicide can be attributed to a sign. Astrology is entirely surface based. Internally our emotions and mental state cannot coincide with astrology, maybe a behavior yes but internally we humans are entirely too complex and changing for it to be associated with astrology. Internal mental health is effected by so many factors...astrology couldn't begin to tip the iceberg of how deep things can go.
Suicide is deep, dark, lonely and internally harsh. It comes from a place that is inhuman. It leaves you without any hope and strips you of your dignity to survive and continue on.
If suicide could be attributed to a sign, element, modality or zodiac axis....then psychotherapists are using all the wrong tools to analyze their patients and should all just be picking up "He's just not in the stars" book and doing chart readings for their patients.
Seriously
Alas, we're on the Astrology board.click to expand
5) By what method?
Posted by RommyWhat seems and what is..worlds apart.Posted by DamnataWell honestly. Use some of that common sense and "social givens" you're always bragging about having you old "owl" and don't ask questions you know are emotionally void of the true concept of the question you are asking.Posted by RommyMindblowing.
I don't think suicide can be attributed to a sign. Astrology is entirely surface based. Internally our emotions and mental state cannot coincide with astrology, maybe a behavior yes but internally we humans are entirely too complex and changing for it to be associated with astrology. Internal mental health is effected by so many factors...astrology couldn't begin to tip the iceberg of how deep things can go.
Suicide is deep, dark, lonely and internally harsh. It comes from a place that is inhuman. It leaves you without any hope and strips you of your dignity to survive and continue on.
If suicide could be attributed to a sign, element, modality or zodiac axis....then psychotherapists are using all the wrong tools to analyze their patients and should all just be picking up "He's just not in the stars" book and doing chart readings for their patients.
Seriously
Alas, we're on the Astrology board.
Instead of trying to attribute questions about suicide to astrology maybe ask questions about suicide that are more human than being emotionally detached by associating it with an axis in astrology.
Seems moronic.
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Point is, you're better off posting the same spiel about how Astrology doesn't apply to anything on all Astrology topics. Because...it should be common knowledge but if you feel the need to emphasize it..by all means, go down the broken record path.
In the meantime try to grow up.
Laters.
Posted by DamnataMight want to generate a statistic based on who self deletes from DXP the most.
I'll edit this post with pie charts later but until then...
1) Which sign do you think is most liable to commit suicide?
2) Which element?
3) Which modality?
4) Which zodiac axis?
It would have about as much scientific validity.
Posted by CancerOnTheCuspI'm not applying for a peer reviewed scientific publication man.Posted by DamnataMight want to generate a statistic based on who self deletes from DXP the most.
I'll edit this post with pie charts later but until then...
1) Which sign do you think is most liable to commit suicide?
2) Which element?
3) Which modality?
4) Which zodiac axis?
It would have about as much scientific validity.click to expand
Also who deletes from DXP is rather boring.
I just want to see if some stereotypes hold water or not.
Posted by Rommy1) Aries/ Taurus CuspPosted by ScrumptiousIf someone could commit suicide instantly by reading dumb questions it would be me...
5) By what method?
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2) Fire/ Earth
3) Whatever the previous 2 are
4) Axis powers?
5) Reading dumb questions
Posted by DamnataWell, if you can find out the predominant sign that calls Scorpiofish's hotline, you could get off to a good start.Posted by CancerOnTheCuspI'm not applying for a peer reviewed scientific publication man.Posted by DamnataMight want to generate a statistic based on who self deletes from DXP the most.
I'll edit this post with pie charts later but until then...
1) Which sign do you think is most liable to commit suicide?
2) Which element?
3) Which modality?
4) Which zodiac axis?
It would have about as much scientific validity.
Also who deletes from DXP is rather boring.
I just want to see if some stereotypes hold water or not.
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Although I doubt astrology is the factor in that case....
Posted by clayNo idea.Posted by Damnataoh. Is it just me or my reading comprehension always fails when it comes to you? wth Those weren't even the posts where I have to google every other word you type.Posted by clayThat was my gut feeling, I don't know whether it's Virgo or not. Haven't compiled all numbers yet so you can guess.
1) Which sign do you think is most liable to commit suicide? Virgo
2) Which element? earth
3) Which modality? mutable
4) Which zodiac axis? Pisces-Virgo
I have to admit I saw that thread so I kinda already know the answer to at least one of the questions (1).
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Posted by ShadowcatYeah, Virgo and Libra.Posted by DamnataPosted by clayThat was my gut feeling, I don't know whether it's Virgo or not. Haven't compiled all numbers yet so you can guess.
1) Which sign do you think is most liable to commit suicide? Virgo
2) Which element? earth
3) Which modality? mutable
4) Which zodiac axis? Pisces-Virgo
I have to admit I saw that thread so I kinda already know the answer to at least one of the questions (1).
Keep in mind that most people are Virgos so that can skew your data if you're not careful
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Posted by Ixion120No, that is YOUR assumption and not what I am saying.
Saying the reason they are who they are is because they are fated to be this way...
What I am saying is...I have this list of people and I want to divide it by signs/modalities/elements.
It's same as pretty much every topic ...or is it not damaging to Geminis to have people apply the cheater stereotype to them?
Try to keep a grasp on rationality. There is no hidden message here, nor is it a worldwide statistic, nor any conclusions to be drawn.
But by all means, keep on typing novels of projection about what I'm actually doing. Your feelings are your own to deal with so..sorry but not sorry.
Posted by RommyYou didn't think you were going to get some where with your argument, did you?Posted by DamnataLook at it in a broader view. I'll put it down plainly. Astrology cannot be associated with suicide. A human mind goes deeper and darker than generic astrology can pinpoint. There's no way to understand someones conditions for committing suicide, these are deep and internally dark emotions that astrology cannot go near. If so then a psychotherapist would be out of a job.Posted by RommyWhat seems and what is..worlds apart.Posted by DamnataWell honestly. Use some of that common sense and "social givens" you're always bragging about having you old "owl" and don't ask questions you know are emotionally void of the true concept of the question you are asking.Posted by RommyMindblowing.
I don't think suicide can be attributed to a sign. Astrology is entirely surface based. Internally our emotions and mental state cannot coincide with astrology, maybe a behavior yes but internally we humans are entirely too complex and changing for it to be associated with astrology. Internal mental health is effected by so many factors...astrology couldn't begin to tip the iceberg of how deep things can go.
Suicide is deep, dark, lonely and internally harsh. It comes from a place that is inhuman. It leaves you without any hope and strips you of your dignity to survive and continue on.
If suicide could be attributed to a sign, element, modality or zodiac axis....then psychotherapists are using all the wrong tools to analyze their patients and should all just be picking up "He's just not in the stars" book and doing chart readings for their patients.
Seriously
Alas, we're on the Astrology board.
Instead of trying to attribute questions about suicide to astrology maybe ask questions about suicide that are more human than being emotionally detached by associating it with an axis in astrology.
Seems moronic.
Point is, you're better off posting the same spiel about how Astrology doesn't apply to anything on all Astrology topics. Because...it should be common knowledge but if you feel the need to emphasize it..by all means, go down the broken record path.
In the meantime try to grow up.
Laters.
Chalking up suicide to a fucking astro placement is such a heartless condescending way to try and grasp suicide. It's so detached that I felt compelled to point it out.
You are so emotionally void and disturbing.
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if you say you're a leo moon, damnata avoids you like the plague
Posted by HarePretty much half of Ixion's thesaurus researched words make me smile because he thinks he's looking smart on an astrology board.
I haven't seen ”flippant" used in a while.
That makes me smile...not the topic...just the word.
Flippant.
The small wins in life.
Posted by ScrumptiousNah, she's a Pisces moon. I just know where she's coming from with this, it has nothing to do with the topic itself and it's way too transparent to me.Posted by RommyYou didn't think you were going to get some where with your argument, did you?Posted by DamnataLook at it in a broader view. I'll put it down plainly. Astrology cannot be associated with suicide. A human mind goes deeper and darker than generic astrology can pinpoint. There's no way to understand someones conditions for committing suicide, these are deep and internally dark emotions that astrology cannot go near. If so then a psychotherapist would be out of a job.Posted by RommyWhat seems and what is..worlds apart.Posted by DamnataWell honestly. Use some of that common sense and "social givens" you're always bragging about having you old "owl" and don't ask questions you know are emotionally void of the true concept of the question you are asking.Posted by RommyMindblowing.
I don't think suicide can be attributed to a sign. Astrology is entirely surface based. Internally our emotions and mental state cannot coincide with astrology, maybe a behavior yes but internally we humans are entirely too complex and changing for it to be associated with astrology. Internal mental health is effected by so many factors...astrology couldn't begin to tip the iceberg of how deep things can go.
Suicide is deep, dark, lonely and internally harsh. It comes from a place that is inhuman. It leaves you without any hope and strips you of your dignity to survive and continue on.
If suicide could be attributed to a sign, element, modality or zodiac axis....then psychotherapists are using all the wrong tools to analyze their patients and should all just be picking up "He's just not in the stars" book and doing chart readings for their patients.
Seriously
Alas, we're on the Astrology board.
Instead of trying to attribute questions about suicide to astrology maybe ask questions about suicide that are more human than being emotionally detached by associating it with an axis in astrology.
Seems moronic.
Point is, you're better off posting the same spiel about how Astrology doesn't apply to anything on all Astrology topics. Because...it should be common knowledge but if you feel the need to emphasize it..by all means, go down the broken record path.
In the meantime try to grow up.
Laters.
Chalking up suicide to a fucking astro placement is such a heartless condescending way to try and grasp suicide. It's so detached that I felt compelled to point it out.
You are so emotionally void and disturbing.
if you say you're a leo moon, damnata avoids you like the plagueclick to expand
And there are several Leo Moons I like, the ones I dislike are in the minority.
Posted by Damnatai have a leo moon and i know how to cause drama, attention whoring and stuffPosted by ScrumptiousNah, she's a Pisces moon. I just know that where she's coming from with this, it has nothing to do with the topic itself and it's way too transparent to me.Posted by RommyYou didn't think you were going to get some where with your argument, did you?Posted by DamnataLook at it in a broader view. I'll put it down plainly. Astrology cannot be associated with suicide. A human mind goes deeper and darker than generic astrology can pinpoint. There's no way to understand someones conditions for committing suicide, these are deep and internally dark emotions that astrology cannot go near. If so then a psychotherapist would be out of a job.Posted by RommyWhat seems and what is..worlds apart.Posted by DamnataWell honestly. Use some of that common sense and "social givens" you're always bragging about having you old "owl" and don't ask questions you know are emotionally void of the true concept of the question you are asking.Posted by RommyMindblowing.
I don't think suicide can be attributed to a sign. Astrology is entirely surface based. Internally our emotions and mental state cannot coincide with astrology, maybe a behavior yes but internally we humans are entirely too complex and changing for it to be associated with astrology. Internal mental health is effected by so many factors...astrology couldn't begin to tip the iceberg of how deep things can go.
Suicide is deep, dark, lonely and internally harsh. It comes from a place that is inhuman. It leaves you without any hope and strips you of your dignity to survive and continue on.
If suicide could be attributed to a sign, element, modality or zodiac axis....then psychotherapists are using all the wrong tools to analyze their patients and should all just be picking up "He's just not in the stars" book and doing chart readings for their patients.
Seriously
Alas, we're on the Astrology board.
Instead of trying to attribute questions about suicide to astrology maybe ask questions about suicide that are more human than being emotionally detached by associating it with an axis in astrology.
Seems moronic.
Point is, you're better off posting the same spiel about how Astrology doesn't apply to anything on all Astrology topics. Because...it should be common knowledge but if you feel the need to emphasize it..by all means, go down the broken record path.
In the meantime try to grow up.
Laters.
Chalking up suicide to a fucking astro placement is such a heartless condescending way to try and grasp suicide. It's so detached that I felt compelled to point it out.
You are so emotionally void and disturbing.
if you say you're a leo moon, damnata avoids you like the plague
And there are several Leo Moons I like, the ones I dislike are in the minority.click to expand
the power of the leo moon compels you
Posted by clayDxpnet e нaй-бaвнoтo caмoубийcтвo, зa кoeтo мoгa дa ce ceтя
This is what I'm truly here for.
Posted by ScrumptiousIf you have a Leo Moon that would explain why you succumbed to 1st tier pressure. You were funnier when you weren't mainstream.Posted by Damnatai have a leo moon and i know how to cause drama, attention whoring and stuffPosted by ScrumptiousNah, she's a Pisces moon. I just know that where she's coming from with this, it has nothing to do with the topic itself and it's way too transparent to me.Posted by RommyYou didn't think you were going to get some where with your argument, did you?Posted by DamnataLook at it in a broader view. I'll put it down plainly. Astrology cannot be associated with suicide. A human mind goes deeper and darker than generic astrology can pinpoint. There's no way to understand someones conditions for committing suicide, these are deep and internally dark emotions that astrology cannot go near. If so then a psychotherapist would be out of a job.Posted by RommyWhat seems and what is..worlds apart.Posted by DamnataWell honestly. Use some of that common sense and "social givens" you're always bragging about having you old "owl" and don't ask questions you know are emotionally void of the true concept of the question you are asking.Posted by RommyMindblowing.
I don't think suicide can be attributed to a sign. Astrology is entirely surface based. Internally our emotions and mental state cannot coincide with astrology, maybe a behavior yes but internally we humans are entirely too complex and changing for it to be associated with astrology. Internal mental health is effected by so many factors...astrology couldn't begin to tip the iceberg of how deep things can go.
Suicide is deep, dark, lonely and internally harsh. It comes from a place that is inhuman. It leaves you without any hope and strips you of your dignity to survive and continue on.
If suicide could be attributed to a sign, element, modality or zodiac axis....then psychotherapists are using all the wrong tools to analyze their patients and should all just be picking up "He's just not in the stars" book and doing chart readings for their patients.
Seriously
Alas, we're on the Astrology board.
Instead of trying to attribute questions about suicide to astrology maybe ask questions about suicide that are more human than being emotionally detached by associating it with an axis in astrology.
Seems moronic.
Point is, you're better off posting the same spiel about how Astrology doesn't apply to anything on all Astrology topics. Because...it should be common knowledge but if you feel the need to emphasize it..by all means, go down the broken record path.
In the meantime try to grow up.
Laters.
Chalking up suicide to a fucking astro placement is such a heartless condescending way to try and grasp suicide. It's so detached that I felt compelled to point it out.
You are so emotionally void and disturbing.
if you say you're a leo moon, damnata avoids you like the plague
And there are several Leo Moons I like, the ones I dislike are in the minority.
the power of the leo moon compels youclick to expand
I'd say it's hard for water signs to drown, hence commit suicide.
Posted by Damnatayou make stabs at my leo moon pride. don't make me get all busyeyes on youPosted by ScrumptiousIf you have a Leo Moon that would explain why you succumbed to 1st tier pressure. You were funnier when you weren't mainstream.Posted by Damnatai have a leo moon and i know how to cause drama, attention whoring and stuffPosted by ScrumptiousNah, she's a Pisces moon. I just know that where she's coming from with this, it has nothing to do with the topic itself and it's way too transparent to me.Posted by RommyYou didn't think you were going to get some where with your argument, did you?Posted by DamnataLook at it in a broader view. I'll put it down plainly. Astrology cannot be associated with suicide. A human mind goes deeper and darker than generic astrology can pinpoint. There's no way to understand someones conditions for committing suicide, these are deep and internally dark emotions that astrology cannot go near. If so then a psychotherapist would be out of a job.Posted by RommyWhat seems and what is..worlds apart.Posted by DamnataWell honestly. Use some of that common sense and "social givens" you're always bragging about having you old "owl" and don't ask questions you know are emotionally void of the true concept of the question you are asking.Posted by RommyMindblowing.
I don't think suicide can be attributed to a sign. Astrology is entirely surface based. Internally our emotions and mental state cannot coincide with astrology, maybe a behavior yes but internally we humans are entirely too complex and changing for it to be associated with astrology. Internal mental health is effected by so many factors...astrology couldn't begin to tip the iceberg of how deep things can go.
Suicide is deep, dark, lonely and internally harsh. It comes from a place that is inhuman. It leaves you without any hope and strips you of your dignity to survive and continue on.
If suicide could be attributed to a sign, element, modality or zodiac axis....then psychotherapists are using all the wrong tools to analyze their patients and should all just be picking up "He's just not in the stars" book and doing chart readings for their patients.
Seriously
Alas, we're on the Astrology board.
Instead of trying to attribute questions about suicide to astrology maybe ask questions about suicide that are more human than being emotionally detached by associating it with an axis in astrology.
Seems moronic.
Point is, you're better off posting the same spiel about how Astrology doesn't apply to anything on all Astrology topics. Because...it should be common knowledge but if you feel the need to emphasize it..by all means, go down the broken record path.
In the meantime try to grow up.
Laters.
Chalking up suicide to a fucking astro placement is such a heartless condescending way to try and grasp suicide. It's so detached that I felt compelled to point it out.
You are so emotionally void and disturbing.
if you say you're a leo moon, damnata avoids you like the plague
And there are several Leo Moons I like, the ones I dislike are in the minority.
the power of the leo moon compels you
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Posted by DamnataWhy do you have to insult his intelligence just b/c he disagrees with you?Posted by HarePretty much half of Ixion's thesaurus researched words make me smile because he thinks he's looking smart on an astrology board.
I haven't seen ”flippant" used in a while.
That makes me smile...not the topic...just the word.
Flippant.
The small wins in life.click to expand
Posted by Cancan26Because that's what I think about him? Freedom of expression and all that. Maybe go through other topics and see where he has issues with mine too.Posted by DamnataWhy do you have to insult his intelligence just b/c he disagrees with you?Posted by HarePretty much half of Ixion's thesaurus researched words make me smile because he thinks he's looking smart on an astrology board.
I haven't seen ”flippant" used in a while.
That makes me smile...not the topic...just the word.
Flippant.
The small wins in life.click to expand
We just consider each other dumb. And the world keeps on spinning...
Posted by HareIMO suffocation will depend on the sign we're having dinner with. An earth sign would be lethal for us.Posted by PalerioBut we CAN suffocate....all that air, man.
I'd say it's hard for water signs to drown, hence commit suicide.
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Most of the people in my life who have committed suicide suffered from PTSD. A Cancer, Sag, Aries.
Posted by yupvirgoBut didn't you say that people could post whatever they desire?Posted by palehoovesI like Pisces moon... but now I think they're too sensitive.Posted by yupvirgo
One can post whatever one desires.
A lot of things are sad in life. If you want to avoid topics such as this since you're easily disturbed or offended, then perhaps it's better that you not click on it.
that would involve having accountability for your own actions.
can't have that with the pisces moon pity party parade.
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To me it's pretty normal that there's a clash of opinions on a topic like this.
I believe there's a correlation between MBTI personality types and astrology and that people physically and vibrationally remind of the archetype of their Ascendant sign. Consequently, I wouldn't exclude death from the picture. Since astrology has to do with ones' personality, past and predictions about one's future, I personally think it is logical to look for suicidal propensity in a "Natal, transits and progressions combined" chart. Only.
Posted by yupvirgoI don't view her post as a hinderer to proceed with the topic... just a thought. It's obvious she has thought about this issue before...Posted by FragranceYes. The clash is normal. Just that, why stop the topic to be posted?Posted by yupvirgoBut didn't you say that people could post whatever they desire?Posted by palehoovesI like Pisces moon... but now I think they're too sensitive.Posted by yupvirgo
One can post whatever one desires.
A lot of things are sad in life. If you want to avoid topics such as this since you're easily disturbed or offended, then perhaps it's better that you not click on it.
that would involve having accountability for your own actions.
can't have that with the pisces moon pity party parade.
To me it's pretty normal that there's a clash of opinions on a topic like this.
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Posted by FragranceI think I'm following a similar pathway, trying to combine MBTI, natal, vedic, draconic etc... with an experience-based approach. Personally I find looking at astrology that way a lot more stimulating: there's more data to stockpile and patterns to be noticed.
I believe there's a correlation between MBTI personality types and astrology and that people physically and vibrationally remind of the archetype of their Ascendant sign. Consequently, I wouldn't exclude death from the picture. Since astrology has to do with ones' personality, past and predictions about one's future, I personally think it is logical to look for suicidal propensity in a "Natal, transits and progressions combined" chart. Only.
I'm not that interested in getting too knowledgeable about any of them, but more interested in finding a logical and pragmatical use to what intuitively feels right to me.
Posted by FoxI don't know. I was thinking of trying it out
gona take a stab in da dark here
and say damnata's topic isn't gona effect anyone's life****
Posted by cheekyfaerieHe's probably waiting for his English muffins to pop up from the toaster
Feel like Tiz is being suspiciously quiet during this convo.
This post stayed on topic for about 10 whole seconds
Damnata is ok.
She's just finding this interesting.
Bottom 3 signs for all signs: one ruled by jupiter, one coruled by jupiter, one ruled by the sun
For men, top two, the martian ruled signs. For women, mercurials + earth.
There goes the Piscean stereotype...
She's just finding this interesting.
Bottom 3 signs for all signs: one ruled by jupiter, one coruled by jupiter, one ruled by the sun
For men, top two, the martian ruled signs. For women, mercurials + earth.
There goes the Piscean stereotype...
Posted by AmethysstIndeed, you go and punch your sister in the face because you're out of control but that's totally cool because you have an Aries Moon so you can't help yourself.
Whereas I don't hide my depression through statistics and over analyzing others.
Posted by RommyWell, maybe your understating of astrology is entirely surface based. Cause there is also such thing as - in depth astrology. Astrology is not about the Sun sign alone (a common subject in most topics from DXP - in case you used those as reference - something that might also reflect your knowledge of astrology - since you put it like that).
I don't think suicide can be attributed to a sign. Astrology is entirely surface based. Internally our emotions and mental state cannot coincide with astrology, maybe a behavior yes but internally we humans are entirely too complex and changing for it to be associated with astrology. Internal mental health is effected by so many factors...astrology couldn't begin to tip the iceberg of how deep things can go.
Suicide is deep, dark, lonely and internally harsh. It comes from a place that is inhuman. It leaves you without any hope and strips you of your dignity to survive and continue on.
If suicide could be attributed to a sign, element, modality or zodiac axis....then psychotherapists are using all the wrong tools to analyze their patients and should all just be picking up "He's just not in the stars" book and doing chart readings for their patients.
Seriously
So, never mind that (astrology). I can approach this subject on different grounds be it - psychology, spirituality, philosophy or history (actual evidence).
For start, what you described above - as suicide, has more to do with depression. There's plenty of people - who went through that type of depression and didn't kill themselves.
Carl Jung - for example, a true pioneer in the field of astrology (the father of analytical psychology), he dabbled with deep states of depression for many years. Though, in his case, those dark times - proved to be the pillars of his legacy. As depicted in one of his writings (The red book):
“The years, of which I have spoken to you, when I pursued the inner images, were the most important time of my life. Everything else is to be derived from this. It began at that time, and the later details hardly matter anymore. My entire life consisted in elaborating what had burst forth from the unconscious and flooded me like an enigmatic stream and threatened to break me. That was the stuff and material for more than only one life. Everything later was merely the outer classification, the scientific elaboration, and the integration into life. But the numinous beginning, which contained everything, was then.”
His approach, is also - quite spiritual in nature.
And then there's - Abraham Lincoln. Another important historical figure - who fought with clinical states of depression for most of his life and yet, not only that he didn't end his life - but he paved the way to a brighter future for others.
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Suicide is not always the result of depression. Believe it or not, it's a part of a defensive mechanism (the ultimate defensive mechanism - as i like to call it). And sometimes... there's no depth to it, or loneliness, there might be darkness and partial internal harshness (a deep state of fear or an inability to cope with a given situation) - that's derived from external factors. As history goes to prove:
http://www.weirdlyodd.com/the-most-terrifying-mass-suicides-in-the-history-of-mankind/
Again, what you described above is called Depression. It's true that - a deep state of depression, where one lingers though deep states of darkness (since even the chemistry of the brain can change on a physical level - which makes one more prone to such states) - can imply suicidal thoughts, though... fortunately, most people manage to avoid the actual outcome.
Posted by PalerioYeaah, esattamente :p I think I know what you mean, looking for pragmatic counterparts to our instincts. And isn't it truly satisfactory when another piece of the puzzle fits...for my Pisces Mercury it certainly is.Posted by FragranceI think I'm following a similar pathway, trying to combine MBTI, natal, vedic, draconic etc... with an experience-based approach. Personally I find looking at astrology that way a lot more stimulating: there's more data to stockpile and patterns to be noticed.
I believe there's a correlation between MBTI personality types and astrology and that people physically and vibrationally remind of the archetype of their Ascendant sign. Consequently, I wouldn't exclude death from the picture. Since astrology has to do with ones' personality, past and predictions about one's future, I personally think it is logical to look for suicidal propensity in a "Natal, transits and progressions combined" chart. Only.
I'm not that interested in getting too knowledgeable about any of them, but more interested in finding a logical and pragmatical use to what intuitively feels right to me.
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Intriguing post, Damny... still reading.
Posted by littlenanobyteIt would be genius if damnata set up this whole thread just to get a flippant rouse out of everyone while analyzing and recording everyone's responses just for her own benefit to satisfy her data gathering craving. Right now i'm sure my name has a percentage next to it on a excel spread sheet.
This thread was just really bizarre and awkward to read....
Lots of random and very personal beef being slung around for 10 whole pages.
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What is with you guys??
Am I the only one who read this whole thing and thought "wtf?"
Posted by littlenanobyteWhat was different about this thread is the word flippant was used.Posted by ScrumptiousWell what was supposed to be a thread not too unlike any of the others on this astrology site, turned into some kind of a gorilla gang showdown with everyone beating their chests, like some kind of zoo.Posted by littlenanobyteIt would be genius if damnata set up this whole thread just to get a flippant rouse out of everyone while analyzing and recording everyone's responses just for her own benefit to satisfy her data gathering craving. Right now i'm sure my name has a percentage next to it on a excel spread sheet.
This thread was just really bizarre and awkward to read....
Lots of random and very personal beef being slung around for 10 whole pages.
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What is with you guys??
Am I the only one who read this whole thing and thought "wtf?"
I personally don't see how this thread was any more stupid than the shit-starter threads in Misc board, or hollyhocks "which transit is destroying my life now" threads.
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Posted by starwarsthat's okPosted by claymy Libra mercury can't.
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After reading this thread, I find it amusing that Stingers are the ones that are stereotyped as being the inquisitorial squad because evidence shows otherwise. We hardly fit the bill as compared to others. 😆
Who's to say we aren't all sinning to death by living? Everyone is just chilling as an immortal spirit and a few crazy fuckers decide to become living mortals.
Posted by tiziani
Did we ever get pie charts in the end?
Lots of pies to be had and shared on page one, take your pick and take your bite.
Posted by feby
I don't think there can ever be enough suicide awareness, in whatever medium it comes in.
I believe more awareness should be brought to those who know or live or love or related to those who are suicidal, especially those who have lost a loved one to suicide. Everywhere there is simply a lack of support for those behind the scenes who suffer, the wide impact in which the suicidal one causes, the damages done and catastrophe left behind. The pain, the anger, the disillusionment, the isolation, etc ...
Posted by Hare
Suicide by pie.
Pumpkin or pecan please.
And a pint of hard cider.
Better yet, a black cherry pie.
Posted by febyPosted by TheLadyScorpioI can't even begin to fathom the way that that kind of tragedy can touch someone's life or family. I mean even when I start to try I just get overwhelmed with sadness and deep loss.Posted by feby
I don't think there can ever be enough suicide awareness, in whatever medium it comes in.
I believe more awareness should be brought to those who know or live or love or related to those who are suicidal, especially those who have lost a loved one to suicide. Everywhere there is simply a lack of support for those behind the scenes who suffer, the wide impact in which the suicidal one causes, the damages done and catastrophe left behind. The pain, the anger, the disillusionment, the isolation, etc ...
Most of the time I shield myself from even going here. It's too much. It makes me want to give up everything and live for a cause.
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Those people the world over, live like a ghost population, ghost statistics, completely forgotten and they truly need support or at least awareness on the impacts of suicide. Sometimes they are shunned and rejected from society, they really have no standing in many places. They did no wrong yet why are they the ones that are cast in the shadows.
Posted by HareDuvel, perhaps? That's good stuff.
I'm flippantly drinking a Belgian Golden Ale right now.
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Posted by HareI haven't tried it yet. I'll have to make a beer run.....Posted by CancerOnTheCuspActually it's the Stone 02.02.02 Vertical Epic.Posted by HareDuvel, perhaps? That's good stuff.
I'm flippantly drinking a Belgian Golden Ale right now.
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Posted by SoulWe are.
Who's to say we aren't all sinning to death by living? Everyone is just chilling as an immortal spirit and a few crazy fuckers decide to become living mortals.
So is it just Earth suns with the highest suicide rate, or does
it pertain to other placements too, I wonder.
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In your opinion of course.
I know a Jup 1st, a Jup 9th, both exceptional placements...l imagine a house of Leo is spectacular...
Im just curious since this is like two contradicting sign,its like she is impulsive but calm?wut? please enlighten me thank you!
DO YOU WANNA VENT ABOUT ANYTHING OR ANYONE TODAY THAT IS IRRITATING YOU OR JUST VENT YOUR FEELINGS, DO IT HERE. WE WONT JUDGE.
Here's mine: this is what I wanna say to her :
Your a pain in the butt but I'm crazy about you, I know it's late and your
cardinal
cancer
capricorn
aries
libra
fixed
taurus
aqua
leo
scorpio
mutable
virgo
gemini
saggie
pisces
for me being cardinal ....its seems like I get along best with cancers b/c I understand them ..nothing super electric but pleasa
Idk. Maybe it's an isolated case, but i've noticed a trend where Virgo & leo women always seem to be following me around and on occasion, admitting they are attracted to me. I'm not a very physically adept guy at all, I'm latino, somewhat dark skin, black
How do you pull a withdrawn venus in cancer from their shell. What makes them comfortable enough to emerge?
What are some mindsets or beliefs you grew up with that you ledge behind? What age did you dismiss them and why?
I know a lot of people reject the 14 and 13 sign astrology. But speaking theoretically. Which modality would Ophiuchus be?
Fixed, Mutable, or Cardinal?
What placements shows that one would be happier single and should avoid serious relationships?
Besides Venus in Gemini of course lol
I feel most compaitible with Gemini. I don't think I've ever met one that I've not cared for. I don't see a lot of Libra/Gemini pairings, for though. Sorry if this turns into an appreciation post but I really don't understand the distaste for them! They'r
I need to hear your thoughts about this!! I need to be distracted hahahaha
It's happening in 2019 for me along with MANY other huge placements...something big is gonna happen for sure, l'm freakin out....
Astrology studies universe and earth energies, must be for all.
Aqua Era is about knowledge, and I am atonished when people hold it or sell it, and put the same old laws to protect i info (laws from the year of 1956!!).
I was obligated by conscience
The honesty in the zodiac thread got me to thinking about how or what is the best way to deal with liars. For clarification, I consider gossip and half-truths to be lies as well. If you know someone is lying about you, trying to make you look bad or give
A certain thread in the Capricorn section made me want to post this one. Let's educate @Yellowsaggitarius about astrology a little more.
So which sign out here is capable of honesty as well as dishonesty?
I believe all signs are capable of both.
Purpose: to somewhat determine your level of self-awareness, values, and outlook on life
Quiz
1. What's the one thing you have that you take pride in? Your...
A. Loving nature
B. Ability to forgive
C. Ability to rise to the occasion or improvise
ARIES WON'T LET ANYONE TALK.
TAURUS IS STUFFING HER FACE AT THE TABLE.
GEMINI JUST BAILED ON A BIG NIGHT OUT.
CANCER WON'T SAY WHY HE'S UPSET.
LEO IS ON AN EMOTIONAL TIRADE AND WON'T THINK ANYTHING THROUGH.
VIRGO IS BEING ANAL ABOUT LUNCH P
The ones I can think of so far:
Courtney Love
Pamela Anderson
Lindsay Lohan
Can you think of any others?
What do you think makes them this way?
I fear I have similar traits to these ladies and iy worries me.. I am self aware so that makes me
aries: Alsatian/ gsd
Taurus: St Bernard
gemini: chihuahua
Cancer: Labrador
leo: poodle
virgo: dachshund
libra: spaniel
scorpio: rottweiler
Sagittarius: hound
pisces: dobermann
aquarius: terrier
Capricorn: bulldog
I don't know who'd be pitb
1) Which sign do you think is most liable to commit suicide?
2) Which element?
3) Which modality?
4) Which zodiac axis?
By sign:
Total men + women:
Men:
Women:
By element:
Men + Women:
Men:
Women:
By modality:
Men + Women:
Men:
Women: