Some advice on this Cancer woman's behavior

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2/18/2014 5:50:42 AM | More
ScorpioFish

36 years old

Veritas Odium Pariet!!!

Posted by Este8
Gosh got cut off AGAIN! High maintenance chicks aren't worth the effort. Forgot exactly what I wrote but....believe it or not....beautiful women often suffer from low self-esteem. Really? Word! How does this happen? They identify their image, their power with how they look. And looks fade. And if you look hard enuf, and all chicks check chicks out, you'll meet the one whose better looking than you, which makes you feel downright ugly. It's all a big ego trip and very junior high school level. But don't think that that gorgeous and seemingly arrogant chick is really that confident. It's usually an act.


I sense and understand this as well with her. The thing that makes this ordeal so difficult is that we have some really important things in common. Profession, religion, political beliefs, astrological compatibilities, etc....

It would be a shame to see this completely dissipate into nothing, but at this point, she is the one who has to come to me. I cannot approach her anymore, lest I end up looking like a complete idiot and come across as some kind of weirdo.

What a nuisance and a mess this is....
2/13/2014 5:04:40 PM | More
Este8

female

Cancer Sun Virgo Moon Taur

Posted by lisabethur8
Posted by Este8
Posted by lisabethur8
Posted by Este8
Gosh got cut off AGAIN! High maintenance chicks aren't worth the effort. Forgot exactly what I wrote but....believe it or not....beautiful women often suffer from low self-esteem. Really? Word! How does this happen? They identify their image, their power with how they look. And looks fade. And if you look hard enuf, and all chicks check chicks out, you'll meet the one whose better looking than you, which makes you feel downright ugly. It's all a big ego trip and very junior high school level. But don't think that that gorgeous and seemingly arrogant chick is really that confident. It's usually an act.

Este, I'm sorry but ALL women have insecurities. Beautiful, those who aren't considered beautiful, you have all types.

Looks do fade, and what's left is beauty inside.

Look at Elizabeth Taylor. Gorgeous when young, gorgeous when old.

EXCELLENT POINT! I just find that beautiful women tend to have the insecurities kicked up a notch, unless they've developed their self-esteem in their careers, relationships or some other place. Just my observation. But yes, all women do have insecurities. Liz Taylor was one of the most beautiful women who ever lived and she was very shy. Not all that confident, actually. But she was an angel. A beautiful one.

I found her to be a mixture of everything, including a vixen. She was a chameleon, tragic and had a charmed life. And to be honest, she knew she was beautiful, she had a strong inner confidence.


Yeah, Liz Taylor was one of a kind beauty, for shizzle. And it went much further than skin deep.
2/13/2014 4:55:30 PM | More
lisabethur8

female

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Posted by Este8
Posted by lisabethur8
Posted by Este8
Gosh got cut off AGAIN! High maintenance chicks aren't worth the effort. Forgot exactly what I wrote but....believe it or not....beautiful women often suffer from low self-esteem. Really? Word! How does this happen? They identify their image, their power with how they look. And looks fade. And if you look hard enuf, and all chicks check chicks out, you'll meet the one whose better looking than you, which makes you feel downright ugly. It's all a big ego trip and very junior high school level. But don't think that that gorgeous and seemingly arrogant chick is really that confident. It's usually an act.

Este, I'm sorry but ALL women have insecurities. Beautiful, those who aren't considered beautiful, you have all types.

Looks do fade, and what's left is beauty inside.

Look at Elizabeth Taylor. Gorgeous when young, gorgeous when old.

EXCELLENT POINT! I just find that beautiful women tend to have the insecurities kicked up a notch, unless they've developed their self-esteem in their careers, relationships or some other place. Just my observation. But yes, all women do have insecurities. Liz Taylor was one of the most beautiful women who ever lived and she was very shy. Not all that confident, actually. But she was an angel. A beautiful one.

I found her to be a mixture of everything, including a vixen. She was a chameleon, tragic and had a charmed life. And to be honest, she knew she was beautiful, she had a strong inner confidence.
2/13/2014 4:25:46 PM | More
Este8

female

Cancer Sun Virgo Moon Taur

Posted by lisabethur8
Posted by Este8
Gosh got cut off AGAIN! High maintenance chicks aren't worth the effort. Forgot exactly what I wrote but....believe it or not....beautiful women often suffer from low self-esteem. Really? Word! How does this happen? They identify their image, their power with how they look. And looks fade. And if you look hard enuf, and all chicks check chicks out, you'll meet the one whose better looking than you, which makes you feel downright ugly. It's all a big ego trip and very junior high school level. But don't think that that gorgeous and seemingly arrogant chick is really that confident. It's usually an act.


Este, I'm sorry but ALL women have insecurities. Beautiful, those who aren't considered beautiful, you have all types.

Looks do fade, and what's left is beauty inside.

Look at Elizabeth Taylor. Gorgeous when young, gorgeous when old.


EXCELLENT POINT! I just find that beautiful women tend to have the insecurities kicked up a notch, unless they've developed their self-esteem in their careers, relationships or some other place. Just my observation. But yes, all women do have insecurities. Liz Taylor was one of the most beautiful women who ever lived and she was very shy. Not all that confident, actually. But she was an angel. A beautiful one.
2/13/2014 4:05:50 PM | More
lisabethur8

female

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Posted by Este8
Gosh got cut off AGAIN! High maintenance chicks aren't worth the effort. Forgot exactly what I wrote but....believe it or not....beautiful women often suffer from low self-esteem. Really? Word! How does this happen? They identify their image, their power with how they look. And looks fade. And if you look hard enuf, and all chicks check chicks out, you'll meet the one whose better looking than you, which makes you feel downright ugly. It's all a big ego trip and very junior high school level. But don't think that that gorgeous and seemingly arrogant chick is really that confident. It's usually an act.


Este, I'm sorry but ALL women have insecurities. Beautiful, those who aren't considered beautiful, you have all types.

Looks do fade, and what's left is beauty inside.

Look at Elizabeth Taylor. Gorgeous when young, gorgeous when old.
2/13/2014 4:02:55 PM | More
Este8

female

Cancer Sun Virgo Moon Taur

Gosh got cut off AGAIN! High maintenance chicks aren't worth the effort. Forgot exactly what I wrote but....believe it or not....beautiful women often suffer from low self-esteem. Really? Word! How does this happen? They identify their image, their power with how they look. And looks fade. And if you look hard enuf, and all chicks check chicks out, you'll meet the one whose better looking than you, which makes you feel downright ugly. It's all a big ego trip and very junior high school level. But don't think that that gorgeous and seemingly arrogant chick is really that confident. It's usually an act.

2/13/2014 3:59:30 PM | More
Este8

female

Cancer Sun Virgo Moon Taur

Posted by ScorpioFish
Posted by Este8
Posted by ScorpioFish
Este, your message got cut off.



Can I read the rest of it? It is very valuable to me and I am grateful.


Hi ScorpFish, it was just the prior message and it was basically save yourself for a woman whose got more than her looks and manipulation to offer you. I can feel that your suffering over this and I've been where you are. There are no words to take away the painful process of detaching from a person who doesn't love you and/or is not good for you. Cliche as it is to say, when a partner makes you unhappy more often than not, it's a sign that things aren't working out. It's just sooo hard. Believe me, I know but when it gets bad enough, you'll bounce. You're just not ready yet. We can be amazingly masochistic when it comes to romance. You'll get over this but it will just take time. You'll know that you're finally over it when you stop thinking obsessively over what you did, what she did, what you didn't do, what she didn't do. There are no answers that will satisfy you so you keep going over the same ground like a merri go round. But you will heal and one day you'll meet someone new and won't give this a 2nd thought. It's live & learn for all of us. We all get burned too.


Yeah, I don't usually mix very well with people who are consistently trying to outdo me when there is no need to compete or act in such a flashy or show-off manner.

It's never been appealing, and comes across as needy and ridiculous.

I sometimes feel like I should just stop caring altogether, but that is a mission that I struggle with.

Blaming myself is not really going anywhere anymore, because (and MoonArtist can attest to this) I didn't do anything wrong or crazy. I just called her a couple times and left friendly voicemail messages inviting her out to spend time with our friends and me at a couple restaurants in town.

What I may perceive as innocuous, she must perceive as criminal or something.

Oh well, as Fozzy and Kermit might say....

"Moving right along..."


I hear everything you're saying ScorpFish but it's not easy to disengage. Be kind to yourself. Sounds like you did nothing wrong but fall for an immature coquette. High maint
2/13/2014 3:58:22 PM | More
Este8

female

Cancer Sun Virgo Moon Taur

Posted by ScorpioFish
Posted by Este8
Posted by ScorpioFish
Este, your message got cut off.



Can I read the rest of it? It is very valuable to me and I am grateful.


Hi ScorpFish, it was just the prior message and it was basically save yourself for a woman whose got more than her looks and manipulation to offer you. I can feel that your suffering over this and I've been where you are. There are no words to take away the painful process of detaching from a person who doesn't love you and/or is not good for you. Cliche as it is to say, when a partner makes you unhappy more often than not, it's a sign that things aren't working out. It's just sooo hard. Believe me, I know but when it gets bad enough, you'll bounce. You're just not ready yet. We can be amazingly masochistic when it comes to romance. You'll get over this but it will just take time. You'll know that you're finally over it when you stop thinking obsessively over what you did, what she did, what you didn't do, what she didn't do. There are no answers that will satisfy you so you keep going over the same ground like a merri go round. But you will heal and one day you'll meet someone new and won't give this a 2nd thought. It's live & learn for all of us. We all get burned too.


Yeah, I don't usually mix very well with people who are consistently trying to outdo me when there is no need to compete or act in such a flashy or show-off manner.

It's never been appealing, and comes across as needy and ridiculous.

I sometimes feel like I should just stop caring altogether, but that is a mission that I struggle with.

Blaming myself is not really going anywhere anymore, because (and MoonArtist can attest to this) I didn't do anything wrong or crazy. I just called her a couple times and left friendly voicemail messages inviting her out to spend time with our friends and me at a couple restaurants in town.

What I may perceive as innocuous, she must perceive as criminal or something.

Oh well, as Fozzy and Kermit might say....

"Moving right along..."


I hear everything you're saying ScorpFish but it's not easy to disengage. Be kind to yourself. Sounds like you did nothing wrong but fall for an immature coquette. High maint
2/13/2014 3:51:50 PM | More
Este8

female

Cancer Sun Virgo Moon Taur

Posted by ScorpioFish


LMAO! Hey, I remember this song and even tho I was never a big Muppets fan, always liked this song. Head bumps, Este
2/13/2014 3:14:00 PM | More
ScorpioFish

36 years old

Veritas Odium Pariet!!!

2/13/2014 3:12:10 PM | More
ScorpioFish

36 years old

Veritas Odium Pariet!!!

Posted by Este8
Posted by ScorpioFish
Este, your message got cut off.



Can I read the rest of it? It is very valuable to me and I am grateful.


Hi ScorpFish, it was just the prior message and it was basically save yourself for a woman whose got more than her looks and manipulation to offer you. I can feel that your suffering over this and I've been where you are. There are no words to take away the painful process of detaching from a person who doesn't love you and/or is not good for you. Cliche as it is to say, when a partner makes you unhappy more often than not, it's a sign that things aren't working out. It's just sooo hard. Believe me, I know but when it gets bad enough, you'll bounce. You're just not ready yet. We can be amazingly masochistic when it comes to romance. You'll get over this but it will just take time. You'll know that you're finally over it when you stop thinking obsessively over what you did, what she did, what you didn't do, what she didn't do. There are no answers that will satisfy you so you keep going over the same ground like a merri go round. But you will heal and one day you'll meet someone new and won't give this a 2nd thought. It's live & learn for all of us. We all get burned too.


Yeah, I don't usually mix very well with people who are consistently trying to outdo me when there is no need to compete or act in such a flashy or show-off manner.

It's never been appealing, and comes across as needy and ridiculous.

I sometimes feel like I should just stop caring altogether, but that is a mission that I struggle with.

Blaming myself is not really going anywhere anymore, because (and MoonArtist can attest to this) I didn't do anything wrong or crazy. I just called her a couple times and left friendly voicemail messages inviting her out to spend time with our friends and me at a couple restaurants in town.

What I may perceive as innocuous, she must perceive as criminal or something.

Oh well, as Fozzy and Kermit might say....

"Moving right along..."

2/13/2014 11:51:29 AM | More
Este8

female

Cancer Sun Virgo Moon Taur

Posted by ScorpioFish
Este, your message got cut off.



Can I read the rest of it? It is very valuable to me and I am grateful.


Hi ScorpFish, it was just the prior message and it was basically save yourself for a woman whose got more than her looks and manipulation to offer you. I can feel that your suffering over this and I've been where you are. There are no words to take away the painful process of detaching from a person who doesn't love you and/or is not good for you. Cliche as it is to say, when a partner makes you unhappy more often than not, it's a sign that things aren't working out. It's just sooo hard. Believe me, I know but when it gets bad enough, you'll bounce. You're just not ready yet. We can be amazingly masochistic when it comes to romance. You'll get over this but it will just take time. You'll know that you're finally over it when you stop thinking obsessively over what you did, what she did, what you didn't do, what she didn't do. There are no answers that will satisfy you so you keep going over the same ground like a merri go round. But you will heal and one day you'll meet someone new and won't give this a 2nd thought. It's live & learn for all of us. We all get burned too.
2/13/2014 11:20:42 AM | More
ScorpioFish

36 years old

Veritas Odium Pariet!!!

Este, your message got cut off.



Can I read the rest of it? It is very valuable to me and I am grateful.
2/13/2014 11:18:35 AM | More
Este8

female

Cancer Sun Virgo Moon Taur

Posted by ScorpioFish




Yep, she's young and stupid. 23 ain't butter. She both does and does not know the source of her power. She's caught up in manipulation and control. It will get old but she doesn't have much to give a man until she matures. Hate to say it but you best cut bait & swim. You don't want to be one of her "chums" who knew better but went for the bait anyway. She doesn't deserve you anyway.


Yes, the rose colored glasses are definitely off now.

Sometimes we refuse to take them off when we feel a connection to someone, but eventually common sense finds it's way into the equation and a man has to do what he has to do.

I have maintained my quiet these past few days, and absolutely intend to continue.

It's so frustrating and stupid that it has to be this way, but whatever...

It's not like there is any other reasonable solution at this point, now is there?

I feel ya. When your heart gets invested it's really hard to pull away even when your rational mind is screaming, "get the hell outta here!" It takes time to come off of romantic disappointment. I've never been a fast operator when it comes to love. I'm slow to get into a relationship & slow to get out of one. When I get burned, I cry me a river for months on end. God the torture. I don't miss it. For now, I'm single and it suits me fine. I'd rather hold out for someone good than either use a man or get used. Not always easy to tell that's why it's best to go slow. Of course, where there's chemistry holding off requires a herculean effort. It's just not easy and nobody's got this butter figured out. Someone tells you they do, they're either dumb as rocks or playing you for a fool.
2/13/2014 11:14:42 AM | More
Este8

female

Cancer Sun Virgo Moon Taur

Posted by ScorpioFish
Posted by Este8
Posted by ScorpioFish
BTW, Este, regarding that hot cousin of yours....

Is she a Cancer girl?

What was the sign of her husband who walked away?

I saw JUL 20 Crab this past Tuesday, and just ignored her all night.

Spent the evening socializing and spending time with friends (both girls and guys alike) while JUL 20 Crab kind of stared at me from across the room.

It was odd, but what am I supposed to do? Run to her like a lost puppy?

I hardly think so.


The hot cousin's a Cancer. Her bad behavior had more to do with a missing father and her being EXTREMELY beautiful. Beauty is actually a curse. I say this because when you have that level of beauty, you can have practically any man you want so you don't value any man. It's like walking into a candy shop and being able to buy anything you see. You can walk out with the best but instead you waste that advantage by nibbling here then there and before you know it your face is marred with acne and your figure is gone . Seriously, that kind of beauty does a woman no good if she doesn't know hot to leverage it for the right man.


Yes, modesty and simplicity are thankfully some of my inherent qualities and I am eternally grateful to have them.

Seldom do I make flashy spectacles of myself or ANYTHING, but I believe she constantly does this to PROVE something to others.

Perhaps it was wild insecurities at play, which is why she toys with the emotional value of younger guys.

I honestly don't think her efforts had the same impact on me like she wanted it to, which is why she basically went NC on me.

But that's okay, because I am capable of finding someone with a soul-mate connection.

There is no way in hell I am going to chase after a girl who can't even return phone calls or simple invites to drinks with friends.

She's in dire need of a dose of humility and consideration of others if she expects companionship from a deep soul.


Sounds like you got a good bead on this ScorpFish. She's young & stupid. Seriously. And yeah she's playing you for a chum, an ego boost. That's what all that attention amounts to for her. Really immature butter here. Save yourself for a woman whose got more than
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