What does he want? Virgo man...

Ok so I am falling for this virgo man that is 15 years older than me. He's a friend of some friends of mine and I have met him three or four times about 4 or five months ago, but I was in a relationship so there weren't any sparks flying. Four months ago I broke up from my partner of 12 years, finally after about 4 years of nothing in the relationship.

And the last two months this virgo and I have started chatting on the net (he lives a continent away from me, but travels quite a lot). We have got quite close and have been intensively flirting on the chat, but also talking on the phone. He is in a realationship (of a few months) with a woman but is having a lot of problems and I don't think it is serious. But he says between all the flirting and complements that he is feeling somewhat guilty of what he is doing with me. In fact once we talked and I think he was going to try to tell me that he didn't want to continue the flirting, but it ended up in the worst flirt ever.. It is a bit as it really isn't practical, or suitable for us to have this kind of connection but it just can't be helped.. He has before then (about 2 years ago) been married for a long time, and has children that he is the sole caretaker of, so he doesn't strike me as someone who just want's to play.

Our connection has got so serious that I have told him I am not up for just a flirt or affair and that I don't think it is fair on his girlfriend to talk to me in this way. He never gives a reply to those serious things I say other than maybe "ok" or in fact something even more flirty... How am I supposed to interpret this? He hasn't contacted me for a few days now and I am really intrigued to know what he is thinking and feeling.. I know he has had some problems in his realtionship and I do know he really likes me, but I want to know how much and how he is thinking. As he is a really good friend of my friends and I think he must have thought twice about flirting with me as it could easily become very uncomfortable in our social life otherwise.

I really, really like him. The way he understands me makes me totally melt for him. He has left it a few days before and then got back.. But it is just that the last two times we chatted I started it and it wasn't very close, very trivial, but then again he had a lot of stress and things going on.. Im a bit worried that I am getting "dumped with grace"... He is online at the chat but not contacting me.
Is he just busy or is he not interest

I definitely don't want to close the door! Quite the opposite! But I don't want to get played with.. So how would I carry myself as a lady? Need the advice so please have patience with me and explain!

Thank you.. I agree to all of the things that you say and I don't think he sees me as the "internet flirt" as we have talked honestly and openly about everything including the flirting. And I know him in person and I work with him too in my professional life. I have always been very true to my own feelings and communicated them. But I interpret his lack of reply as he is interested in something more, but don't trust his own feelings.. (I know that sounds cheezy) But since I don't know virgo - I might be wrong. I do think though that he thinks in a very practical way (which in all honesty I don't) so therefore he might see a lot of practical obstacles to the fact that we are getting close. Like the mileage between us for example. He did once say that things would be very different if we were closer to each other..

It's nice to vent in this forum as it helps me to see everything more clearly. Which I am doing now.. So what I should be doing is probably back off for a bit and see what happens. Probably go offline (which I already have).

It would be nice with some more comments on how virgo men think..

Actually I have done what you said.. Brought the subject back to other things and I guess therefore it hasn't been much flirting the last times we talked. I guess that is kind of good, but then again he hasn't been the one starting the chat...

Hi,

Thanks again.. I am not going to introduce another conversation and not dwell on it either. I will just see what happens. I'm keeping my options open and most of all working on my own wellbeing (without needing the energy of a flirt). But are virgo generally playful and not serious?

I think he has venus in leo and mars in virgo (I don't know the exact time of day he was born so this is calculated out of his date of birth and place) ...

Posted by leoowoman

Our connection has got so serious that I have told him I am not up for just a flirt or affair and that I don't think it is fair on his girlfriend to talk to me in this way.

Posted by leoowoman

Im a bit worried that I am getting "dumped with grace"... He is online at the chat but not contacting me.

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Considering ^^^^^^^^^^^ I'd be willing to wager that he when he tries to back away, such as we see below, that you come at him full force with the flirts, not letting him go .... because it's obvious from your quotes posted above that you tell him one thing, and then do another.

Posted by leoowoman

But he says between all the flirting and complements that he is feeling somewhat guilty of what he is doing with me. In fact once we talked and I think he was going to try to tell me that he didn't want to continue the flirting, but it ended up in the worst flirt ever.. It is a bit as it really isn't practical, or suitable for us to have this kind of connection but it just can't be helped

That flirt right there, after he confessed that he doesn't want to do this? Yeah, that was you targeting his volunerability .. I'd put money it, considering he is online when you posted this and ignoring you.


Why don't you do the right thing and step away.

too much to read... skipping posts as usual 😛

@OP (leoowoman): forget about it... this will not work... two keywords - criticism and ego (go figure)...
and ask yourself this -> WHAT DO YOU REALLY WANT? the flirting or commitment? if the flirting/chasing stops when you got into commitment, what's next? remember the 2 keywords

hades

Posted by hades
too much to read... skipping posts as usual 😛

@OP (leoowoman): forget about it... this will not work... two keywords - criticism and ego (go figure)...
and ask yourself this -> WHAT DO YOU REALLY WANT? the flirting or commitment? if the flirting/chasing stops when you got into commitment, what's next? remember the 2 keywords

hades

Hades.. could you develop your comment please? Is he criticising my ego? or what exactly do you mean? Are you a virgo male?

Just for everybody's info, I have backed of.. It is only a two days since last time we talked and I think he should iniciate next conversation if there is going to be any further contact. But I have been checking the whole string of messages and found that we have initiated the conversations exactly the same amount of times and we have both started with serious stuff. He has started a few conversations of asking for advice with his kids so not only flirting. And he is very strange because he might say something like.. "what do you say, should I just leave all this and come and live in your country" after telling me about problems in his relationship. And he has said similar things many times.. So how am I about to interpret this? Is he asking me how serious I am about us, or is he just making conversation? I myself would never say things like that if I didn't think there was a slight chance that I hoping someone would say yes.

He's not available ... anything either of you do or say to each other that crosses the line is completely out of line.

He knows it = he feels guilt.


You dont' seem to care, unless you can use it to manipulate his feelings, since you tell him to back off just before you move forward.


You are out of line, you are breaking the rules by moving in on another woman's territory .... your just reward will one day getting your soulmate taken away from you by a slut.


Enjoy !!!!!

Posted by P-Angel
He's not available ... anything either of you do or say to each other that crosses the line is completely out of line.

He knows it = he feels guilt.


You dont' seem to care, unless you can use it to manipulate his feelings, since you tell him to back off just before you move forward.


You are out of line, you are breaking the rules by moving in on another woman's territory .... your just reward will one day getting your soulmate taken away from you by a slut.


Enjoy !!!!!

If the world was black and white, the things you say may be true but my world is a rainbow of colours so every situation is different.

Posted by ellessque
leo in venus = bold flirting. you just have to take control of it and lead it to the direction you want. whatever that may be.

Hmmm.. I get what you are saying. I know I said I pulled out and I still have... But I have no patience.. I must wait.. I do think he will contact me, I think he has a lot of dignity, but I am so insecure. You know us leo gals "live for love" but it also complicates our life a lot!!

Posted by leoowoman

Hades.. could you develop your comment please? Is he criticising my ego? or what exactly do you mean? Are you a virgo male?

Just for everybody's info, I have backed of.. It is only a two days since last time we talked and I think he should iniciate next conversation if there is going to be any further contact. But I have been checking the whole string of messages and found that we have initiated the conversations exactly the same amount of times and we have both started with serious stuff. He has started a few conversations of asking for advice with his kids so not only flirting. And he is very strange because he might say something like.. "what do you say, should I just leave all this and come and live in your country" after telling me about problems in his relationship. And he has said similar things many times.. So how am I about to interpret this? Is he asking me how serious I am about us, or is he just making conversation? I myself would never say things like that if I didn't think there was a slight chance that I hoping someone would say yes.

Good thing you've backed off.... Yes, I'm Virguy... No, I mean his criticism and your ego will never work together... criticism is a huge turn off for your ego, same goes to him when you started to brag... and when the sparks is gone, everything gone...

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Posted by ellessque
leo in venus = bold flirting. you just have to take control of it and lead it to the direction you want. whatever that may be.

Hmmm.. I get what you are saying. I know I said I pulled out and I still have... But I have no patience.. I must wait.. I do think he will contact me, I think he has a lot of dignity, but I am so insecure. You know us leo gals "live for love" but it also complicates our life a lot!!

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there, that's the answer I'm looking for.... you crave for love, romance, attention... you demand it, and want it now... you fall and break when you feel slighted... and you will get this from a Virgo very often... there, you're feeling insecure right now...

hades

Thank you all for all your helping comments (Especially Ellessque). I guess I have a lot to learn and it's great getting some input from people that understand people!

To Hades I just have to say that all leos don't brag and some of us have some form of insight as to who we are and our behaviour. A true Leonesse will learn from criticism and get adored, not because she craves it, but because she is self sufficient, confident, intelligent and warm and openhearted. (OOPS.. Was that bragging? 😉

I have spent 12 years with a sagittarius - a relationship full of mainly downs... And they say LEO+SAG is a match made in heaven.. I don't think so - please don't generalise.

To P.. I agree not to take another womans man, but two months isn't really serious when people are approaching midlife... If it was serious, why is he then chatting with me? He should be totally uptaken by his new girlfriend.. Anyways.. not worth thinking about that anymore as I have, and will, stay "backed off"!

Really nice talking to you!! I will continue visiting this forum for sure!

Posted by leoowoman

A true Leonesse will learn from criticism and get adored, not because she craves it, but because she is self sufficient, confident, intelligent and warm and openhearted. (OOPS.. Was that bragging? 😉

That wasn't funny ...


How long did you say you were in a failing relationship?


If you don't care that there is another woman that you are potentially going to hurt if you happen to get him ... then you are none of those wonderful attributes you said.

Quite The Contrary ... and the scariest part is that, you don't seem to have enough awareness to know it .. or maybe you do, and you just don't care.


You better pray to God that some day that doesn't come back to kick you in the ass.

I think most guys that leave a relationship for another woman go willingly. I'm not saying this is what I am trying to do but it really isn't my responsibility to keep their relationship from breaking. It's theirs and only theirs! He started talking to me willingly (and has been approaching me before he met this woman when I was in a relationship) so it isn't like I have barged in from nowhere and started flirting with him. It has been going on for a longer time - that's why I take it so seriously. But anyhow now I am backing off.

I was in a failing relationship and learnt a lot, yes.

LS, your situation is irrelevant .. you haven't even seen the guy in person. This isn't about you and how you would handle your life.

With this particular situation .. this man feels guilty enough to say to her that he feels guilt. Are you suggesting that his own feelings about his own guilt regarding his own girlfriend isn't valid enough to be considered because it wouldn't bother YOU ?


Read what was written and go with that, rather than some hypothetical situation you might encounter one day ... this is about a real situation. And within the description of this situation, this man speaks of how he feels guilty.

And no, you aren't allowed to backpedal your ass out of this by saying you have no responsibility in the pain caused another woman, when you know about the other woman.


Let's have a woman move in on your territory and see how fast you change your song.

Posted by P-Angel
LS, your situation is irrelevant .. you haven't even seen the guy in person. This isn't about you and how you would handle your life.

With this particular situation .. this man feels guilty enough to say to her that he feels guilt. Are you suggesting that his own feelings about his own guilt regarding his own girlfriend isn't valid enough to be considered because it wouldn't bother YOU ?


Read what was written and go with that, rather than some hypothetical situation you might encounter one day ... this is about a real situation. And within the description of this situation, this man speaks of how he feels guilty.

If you would have bothered to read the whole thread you would have known that this virgo is moving in my circle of friends, I work with him, and I have met him on several occations, had deep discussions with him and he has been coming on to me in person. I have hugged him (tenderly) and flirted with him in person too. I know him quite well even if he lives far away from me.

I do consider his "girlfriends" feelings that is why I am backing off. However I have pisces moon so I can feel a situation and know more or less how it is. Right now it's time to back off but I am not sure that is the end of everything. He has venus in leo and I (leo) have venus in virgo and I feel really close to him. Thoughts have crossed my mind (even if there is quite a big age and physical distance between us) that he might be the "one"!

Posted by P-Angel
And no, you aren't allowed to backpedal your ass out of this by saying you have no responsibility in the pain caused another woman, when you know about the other woman.


Let's have a woman move in on your territory and see how fast you change your song.

You are right - I would roar!! But that's ok. If she is better suited for my man - there is nothing I can do about it. Nothing... I would be sad, upset, heartbroken but I would try not to get bitter!

Posted by ellessque

I see where hades is coming from but I'm quite perplexed that he's going simply off the fact she's a leo. Funny how all of you don't want virgos to be placed in one big fancy box but I see it time and time again where you do the same.

@LS: Looks like you don't actually see my point. I'm surprise you think otherwise. Care to elaborate more? Yes, she's a leo while he's mars in Virgo.. So I don't see how this going to work... Their actions leaves them wondering and hardly understand each other when things heated up... Venus in Leo means the flirting and romance style which I agree with you is great.... if leoowoman care to show me more on the moon, venus and mars placement, then probably i can look into more detailed... else everything will be based on her sun...

Posted by leoowoman
To Hades I just have to say that all leos don't brag and some of us have some form of insight as to who we are and our behaviour. A true Leonesse will learn from criticism and get adored, not because she craves it, but because she is self sufficient, confident, intelligent and warm and openhearted. (OOPS.. Was that bragging? 😉

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@OP: pls don't get me wrong... brag doesn't mean something bad... let me put it this way, you're good at selling yourself... and this might unintentionally put someone down...
and yes, leo can take criticism only when you're open/ready for criticism... else 'RAWR'... imagine you're taking it repeatedly unprepared... criticism will bruised your pride and ego... surely you would reply i'm generous, over time i will forgive and forget... but please think about long run...
lastly, you're still young, why waste your time in this guy? you're a leo and definitely you've a lot of options.... i only can say he flirts back for the sake of flirting... that's all

Hades... You seem to know a lot about astrology.. Would you care to look at this aspect...

I Leo sun, ascendant capricorn, virgo venus, pisces moon..
He virgo sun, ascendant capricorn, leo venus, gemini moon..

Would love to hear your opinion. And I do take to heart what you say.. I guess I want an older guy because I haven't met one single guy in my own age and 10 years older, that iseven remotely emotionally mature.

Oh and I have virgo in mars and he has libra in mars..

OK... HE'S back!! Not flirty but sharing very private matters about himself.. How the hell am I suppose to interpret this? Virgo man... Hades.. why this: if you were feeling guilty about talking to me and had not been contacting me for some days, do you come back with a very personal matter although not in a flirty way, more a matterly of fact way.. I cant exactly describe what it is but let's say it's got to do with art and exposing oneself. He puzzles me!!

@OP: i'm not the best but i will try... and i gotta say a big NO NO for a gemini moon, addition to his venus and mars... he's good at flirting and he loves what he does... while your sensitive little cat pride is looking for someone who's willing to commit himself, giving you stability and lasting attention... he doesn't have what you want... yes, you two intrigued each other because you don't understand each other at all... this makes up the strong attraction.. and the flirting style mesh very well... unfortunately you two are not compatible when emotions get deeper...

being old doesn't mean emotionally mature... you should be aware by now that the ball is in his court... don't waste your loyalty on him... and stop fantasizing!

Posted by leoowoman
OK... HE'S back!! Not flirty but sharing very private matters about himself.. How the hell am I suppose to interpret this? Virgo man... Hades.. why this: if you were feeling guilty about talking to me and had not been contacting me for some days, do you come back with a very personal matter although not in a flirty way, more a matterly of fact way.. I cant exactly describe what it is but let's say it's got to do with art and exposing oneself. He puzzles me!!

i don't think he's feeling guilty for not contacting you... he's initiating the conversation and to get you back to where you both left...

hades

i don't think he's feeling guilty for not contacting you... he's initiating the conversation and to get you back to where you both left...

hades

I meant that he was feeling guilty for contacting me, not for not contacting me.. Why is gemini moon a big no no?

and oh, you need to watch your pisces moon... you fall fast and hard when you're in love.... and how does that happens? flirting and romance definitely get you started... plus a little sympathy, and/or unjust (guilt trip), you'll helplessly giving in... if i'm reading you correctly, when you're with him you incline to behave like a child and giggle like crazy...

hades

Posted by hades
and oh, you need to watch your pisces moon... you fall fast and hard when you're in love.... and how does that happens? flirting and romance definitely get you started... plus a little sympathy, and/or unjust (guilt trip), you'll helplessly giving in... if i'm reading you correctly, when you're with him you incline to behave like a child and giggle like crazy...

hades

Interesting that you are trying to read me/my moon... Yes I do fall fast and hard.. When the channel is open, it's wide open and I have to control that. However I do nog giggle, I am far too serious and melancholic in my character. In fact very few people or situations make me giggle. Im more of a troubled philosopher.
Do you mean he has sympathy for me or vice versa? To feel sorry for someone definitely DONT turn me on.. That might be a projection from your own virgo want and need to please everybody. I don't give in either... At least I am not aware of that.

But you are right Hades, that we don't really understand eachother!! That's so spot on.. But I think physically we do...
I have this other interest that is an Aquarius, same age as this virgo and we click 100% in the communications bit, we don't have to talk to understand eachother and live and do things exactly the same way. However he is too cool for me and I don't think I could handle all his "lady friends"...

Posted by ellessque
remember your thread "wrong love".

i'm seeing it like that. nobody is anyone's territory if two people are so deeply in love with each other...that unconditional kind of love we've talked about. if THAT bond was there...he could set up shop in the middle of a strip club with free internet and a harem of hookers.....and it still wouldn't matter, he wouldn't flinch.

so, if he's straying after two months...he's doing nobody any favors. she'd be doing the girlfriend a favor.

just saying.

It's not the same here .. this man feels guilt, and tells this Leo who is chasing him that he feels guilt .. what part of that is not understood here?

Let me get this straight, so that I understand exactly what you are saying LS ... you think that if .... a woman moves in on another woman's territory, that it's perfectly ok, it's doing her a favor?

Posted by leoowoman

As he is a really good friend of my friends and I think he must have thought twice about flirting with me as it could easily become very uncomfortable in our social life otherwise.

He is online at the chat but not contacting me.

This Leo woman keeps talking about how she thinks she will back away, which is an attempt at giving us the impression that she has the upper hand here and that this is her decision .. when in reality, he's dumping her and because he's dumping her is the reason she's in here.

Don't be fooled into thinking that she has any say-so in this situation ... the only say-so she ever had was to tell herself that have some dignity and leave a taken man alone .. but, she's not strong enough to handle herself, she's not capable of making good decisions.



What we see above in the first sentence is evidence where he doesn't want his circle to have acknowledgement of him having any connections with her.

In the second sentence above ... we see that even in private, he doesn't acknowledge her.


I guess being a Leo, her ego won't allow her the truth = he doesn't want you, not the other way around. You try to make it sound like you've left him, which is a lie.

You want him so much that you came in here to tell us ... you aren't in charge. If you were capable of being in charge you would have had the courage and integrity not to chase a taken man.

Apparantly this Leo woman would.

Posted by leoowoman

If you would have bothered to read the whole thread you would have known that this virgo is moving in my circle of friends, I work with him, and I have met him on several occations, had deep discussions with him and he has been coming on to me in person. I have hugged him (tenderly) and flirted with him in person too. I know him quite well even if he lives far away from me.

You sound like you are proud of yourself, for you say that as if bragging about yourself. You even tell me to bother to read it right .... you are delighted with yourself that you have the attention of a taken man.

And don't even try to bullshit me about him in your cirlce of friends.

1. I have already posted a copy of one of your quotes where as he moves within his circle of friends, he's not bothering to acknowledge you, and
2. you two don't even live on the same continent, so your circle of friends are entirely different people.

Posted by leoowoman

I do consider his "girlfriends" feelings that is why I am backing off.

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What utter bullshit ... you are here because at the time of writing this thread, he was online at that very moment and ignoring you and you were upset because you thought you were being dumped. He dumped you.

Not the other way around.

Posted by ellessque

Posted by P-Angel
Let me get this straight, so that I understand exactly what you are saying LS ... you think that if .... a woman moves in on another woman's territory, that it's perfectly ok, it's doing her a favor?

I'm saying. If you are secure in your relationship it really shouldn't matter.

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I'm beginning to not trust you, LS .. not sure how much I will interact with you. I'll have to think on that ... because it does matter.


If a woman KNOWS that a man is taken .... then this woman has to have accountibility for herself. Whether this man is totally miserable in his relationship or not, doesn't release another woman from having to be accountibility for her own actions.

If you cannot see that .. and you think it's alright for a woman to do that to a taken man ... then I don't want to be your friend alonger.


Go talk to someone else .. to someone who doesn't have honor .. because I am not like you or the others .. I won't ignore the truth and just pretend to be friends to laugh, be silly and talk about superficial bullshit just to get along.

I'm not interested in being superficial .... if you really believe that way, then I don't want you.

Posted by leoowoman

"if you were feeling guilty about talking to me and had not been contacting me for some days, do you come back with a very personal matter although not in a flirty way, more a matterly of fact way.."

I meant that he was feeling guilty for contacting me, not for not contacting me.. Why is gemini moon a big no no?

Ok got it, guess that wasn't a statement you're trying to make... probably the Virgo thing as i mentioned, act as if nothing happened and continue the conversation where you had left...

gem moon is a tricky one... witty and charming, and with the other placement he has... he's good with his words and manners... gem moon like freshness and stimulating (reverse of stability) relationship.... i think you mentioned about his girlfriend"s"... can your leo/virgo cope with this?

Posted by leoowoman

Posted by hades
and oh, you need to watch your pisces moon... you fall fast and hard when you're in love.... and how does that happens? flirting and romance definitely get you started... plus a little sympathy, and/or unjust (guilt trip), you'll helplessly giving in... if i'm reading you correctly, when you're with him you incline to behave like a child and giggle like crazy...

hades

Interesting that you are trying to read me/my moon... Yes I do fall fast and hard.. When the channel is open, it's wide open and I have to control that. However I do nog giggle, I am far too serious and melancholic in my character. In fact very few people or situations make me giggle. Im more of a troubled philosopher.
Do you mean he has sympathy for me or vice versa? To feel sorry for someone definitely DONT turn me on.. That might be a projection from your own virgo want and need to please everybody. I don't give in either... At least I am not aware of that.

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sounds like you're still sensible... so i guess nothing needs worrying about... alright, the giggle stuff is reading on your house II, which confuse me most of the time... 'troubled philosopher' sounds like from your mars influence added some rebellious nature..?

yes, it's the projection from virgo and pisces i'm talking about... i guess both complement each other giving you a clear emotional boundary...

hades

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Posted by P-Angel
Apparantly this Leo woman would.

Let's say they do get together. How is that shit going to work? She thinks he wouldn't do that shit to her. Does she really believe that they are going to fall in love and live happily ever after? Even if they did get together she wouldn't be able to trust him around another woman because she knows what she did to get him. That shit would be in the back of her head.

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She has no honor, no intregrity .. so, she would probably use the fact that he cheated on her as a dramatic scene to get attention, which is pretty much all that went down here.

Posted by leoowoman
But you are right Hades, that we don't really understand eachother!! That's so spot on.. But I think physically we do...
I have this other interest that is an Aquarius, same age as this virgo and we click 100% in the communications bit, we don't have to talk to understand eachother and live and do things exactly the same way. However he is too cool for me and I don't think I could handle all his "lady friends"...

LOL, looks like you have problem picking your man... Aqua is nothing but spacey spacey spacey... but i trust them more than their other two Airy bro and sista..

hades

Posted by leoowoman

I have told him I am not up for just a flirt or affair and that I don't think it is fair on his girlfriend to talk to me in this way. He never gives a reply to those serious things I say other than maybe "ok" or in fact something even more flirty... How am I supposed to interpret this? He hasn't contacted me for a few days now and I am really intrigued to know what he is thinking and feeling..

I know he has had some problems in his realtionship and I do know he really likes me, but I want to know how much and how he is thinking. As he is a really good friend of my friends and I think he must have thought twice about flirting with me as it could easily become very uncomfortable in our social life otherwise.

One side of her tongue tells him that they shouldn't be talking to each other thay way .. which she apparantly does to manipulate a reaction out of him because the other side of her forked tongue is really intrigued in knowing what he's thinking and feeling about it.

In the last quoted section we see the forked tongue mentions that she knows he is having troubles in his relationship .... while excited that he likes her and wanting to know how much he likes her.


The first part of the quote above was something she said to him to get a reaction .. for she is really intrigued about what he is thinking about it. She's not concerned about the girlfriend in the least bit, and only USED the girls feelings as leverage to try and get the man to want her.


Leo woman ... you are full of bullshit.

Posted by everevolvingepithet
Bbbrrrrr, but it's so cold out there in space ?

Posted by everevolvingepithet
Especially for the lord of the underworld !🙂

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LOL, what is this? are you relating this to me?

hades

Posted by DetailsPlease
^^^^She really cares that he has a girlfriend. Why else would she be here trying to understand what this Virgo wants? How dare you believe she doesn't care about the girlfriend twisting her words around? What the hell is wrong with you P?

LOL, forget about the quick introduction... PA is on her usual rambling mode..

hades

Posted by everevolvingepithet
Just a humourous take on you previous comment 🙂

Now that's 'cold'... 😛

hades

Posted by DetailsPlease
^^^^She really cares that he has a girlfriend. Why else would she be here trying to understand what this Virgo wants? How dare you believe she doesn't care about the girlfriend twisting her words around? What the hell is wrong with you P?

I'm untwisting her words as they correspond with her actions.


Words: she says she is concerned about the girlfriend

Actions: she's upset because he isn't talking to her, she wants him to want her


Do you not see the contridiction of words versus actions?

lol, I know

Whoah!! I'm amazed at P-Angels analyzation of me! It's amazing how much projection one person can do out of reading a few posts on a forum! I'm impressed P-Angel, although you are probably seing all of this with your "own life experience glasses" which is fair enough. We all interpret our world out of our own experiences. Some of us might learn to open our minds to different ways of seeing and then a whole different scenario is made up. So I am not even going to comment on your posts. Apart from this comment.. 😉

Hades... "Like you".. You make a lot of sense! But we don't fully understand eachother! Maybe a virgo/leo thing, that sort of intrigues me.

Everevolvingepithet... Are you aqua?.. Are you always trying to sneak off when things get a bit hotter? 😉 I don't seem to get a grip on you guys.

DetailsPlease... Thanks for standing up for me. I do feel for his girlfriend (believe me I understand how it is to have a guy that likes to talk to many women, my x was a sag) but most of all I don't think it is healthy for him and her or me (I'm falling for him and dont want to be second best) to be going on like this. So the most natural thing is to put a lid on it. But it doesn't mean we don't feel anything, we are just not acting out on it. And I think you understood that. So thanks.

About the distance... If you have travelled a lot you have friends all over the world so the distances dont really have a big significance. He has lived where I live for many years before he moved, that's why we have the same friends.

Posted by everevolvingepithet
"Everevolvingepithet... Are you aqua?.. Are you always trying to sneak off when things get a bit hotter? I don't seem to get a grip on you guys."

No😛 Depends on the type of heat being generated to be honest. It's not always sneaking off, sometimes Imma climbing a rock to get a panoramic view before diving in (yes I genuinely am that 'stupid' at times 😛).
Grip tighter would be another one🙂

Hihi let's see if I get this right.. If I can't get a grip on you guys.. I should grip tighter?
I get the part of seeing it from all angles before making a decision - that's probably a smart thing to do. However you might miss out because you are always trying to secure all the angles...

I love the expression douchebag (it's so american) but I don't think he is one. I do think he is a nice guy (definitely a keeper) and he does understand that he got a bit carried away with me and expressed it to me, and has slowed down the pace. However I think there is a strong attraction between us but he nor I have been acting on that the last two times we talked. Apart from sharing some intimate art.

I believe him when he says that he felt guilty for talking to me and I believe that he doesn't do that with other women. So therefore I am not afraid, should we start a relationship sometime in the future, that he will run off on me. Definitely not. But I will never settle for second best so therefore right now it's no point in me trying to push him into going with me. I would never do that anyway - they usually come willingly 😉 (sorry that last bit was a joke, I am really not a man stealer, but I couldn't keep myself after reading all the posts from P.)

But you are right Ellessque, I needed this forum to vent and read through my own thoughts and I have got myself more grounded after doing that. It's a great way of learning about yourself. I also thank P-Angel for your input, as I have taken quite a lot of it on-board even if I come with sarky comments back. Thank you. I understand where you are coming from believe me when I say that. You're sharp.

Posted by everevolvingepithet
Still on that same precipice, dang.

You're speaking in riddles... What does that last sentence mean? Sorry I'm not american..

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