Sagittarian Insecurity

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1/9/2014 9:15:09 PM | More
Cajunspirit

26 years old male

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Seems to be well hidden. Could just be the Saggies I have dealt with Moon in Scorpio and Moon in Taurus.

Couple this with the tendency to NOT communicate your feelings when disappointed or upset and let it build up til the supernova, makes things very interesting.

There is a confidence carried and an ease of passing over situations that generally concern you that leaves the man thinking all is well. However, it is at the point of the supernova that all is brought to light and the man I imagine would be oblivious.

Then there is the outright hypocrisy, of doing these same things that are "relationship testing" like going out with a guy your courting partner knows has a crush on you and making small of it. Yet, completely flipping out if your courting partner did the same. Seeing that Saggi women like to paint people in broad strokes, isolating any shady behaviour that they themselves engage in as unacceptable.

Am I to understand it is just simply the man's duty to reassure you, when you do not reassure him nor make it known your trust waivers?

For him to prod and prod and annoy you until you state what the problem is or is the Saggi Woman supernova argument event the preferred medium?

It seems treat others how you want to be treated is not a concept Saggi women follow.

Kindly, share your thoughts.
1/9/2014 9:26:34 PM | More
AriesIntrovert16

18 years old female from NJ  

Isn't there already a thread on this?...
1/9/2014 9:27:55 PM | More
AriesIntrovert16

18 years old female from NJ  

Aren't you married to a sag? You're a Virgo right?
1/9/2014 9:35:55 PM | More
AriesIntrovert16

18 years old female from NJ  

Maybe you should talk to them about their behavior.. Most of them appreciate honesty.. I'm sure if you brought it to their attention they wouldn't be such "hypocrites" anymore. They are friendly people and like to hangout with almost anyone who wants to. Including exes. I think you're reading too much into these girls' behavior.
1/9/2014 9:44:24 PM | More
RainDancer88

25 years old female

Fire 40.1% Water 23.8% Earth 20.4% Ai

Hi CajunSpirit, I had to respond to this. I am literally the woman currently doing this in my relationship as we speak. Caught me red handed lol.

Best I can tell you is that if you're witnessing that behavior, it is due to the fact that she must be into you (a lot more than she is willing to put on ) I want to portray a certain air of myself when I'm attracted to my man. When I feel SECURE, I am funny, sweet, sexual and fun and it's because the man is making me feel good about myself. When I do not receive enough reassurance and feel INSECURE (like my heart could be threatened), I HAVE to verbally get it out! By that I mean.... could be I say, "hey, you know if you just want to be friends than you have to let me know" or "hey, you're giving mixed signals, and I felt neglected because of ... blah bah".

POINT BEING, if we feel like we are putting in some effort, we want it back ten fold until we feel deserving enough to love you back openly.

Not sure if this will help you, but eh. Got to be very specific when asking a sag a question Chances are, we will answer bluntly.
1/9/2014 10:58:43 PM | More
scorpgal76

female

Sun, Merc, Mars, Uranus in Scorpio Moon

My ex is a Saggie (although male of course). Doesn't sound like he's much different from the female in your post though. Soooooo insecure, and he had a lot of Scorp in his chart, plus a Taurus moon. Nothing I said or did was enough to reassure him. And yes, it would take a lot of prodding to get him to tell me what was wrong & then the "supernova" as u've called it....u couldn't have picked a better term for that emotional display!

1/9/2014 11:27:12 PM | More
beautifulsoul74

male from King Of December

Most people strive to achieve balance wi

Ironically, a thread such as this one is hypocritical coming from a Virgo. Are those the traits of some Sag women? Yes. But I have seen your sign, the males display the exact same traits. Did you ever stop to think while analyzing her that you were actually analyzing yourself? As in...she's mirroring you? What's equally amusing is your response to her behavior. "She did it so imma do it too." If you expect a certain pattern of behavior you should demonstrate it first instead of following. Sags are very observant. Most likely what has happened is that she observed you fraternizing with your exes in a subtlety romantic way and instead of taking your approach and criticizing to enforce hypocritical standards she kept silent and tolerated until she needed space to recharge. You on the other hand continually pointed out her flaws until she went supernova, which really isonly her finally telling you the truth about her seeing what you're pulling. You're ego gets bruised because you can't see the emotional aspect of your actions...what you did to her because in your mind you're actually afraid of commitment. Hence you still hanging with your exes but yet she can't.

I have several Virgo males as friends and this is their M.O. Smh 😄
1/9/2014 11:29:48 PM | More
Ulalume

female

Ignis Sagittarius

This has nary a thing to do with insecrity lol.

Most Sags don't like broadcasting when they're

feeling not themselves or in a rough spot. Most

will go off and work butter out on their own. Why

"burden" someone else with their stuff? And this

is tenfold given the Moon placements of the Sags

you're speaking of.


Any guy that is gonna date a typical Sag needs to

set boundaries and draw your line in the sand from

jump. Other wise you'll get the taste of their double

standards. It sounds like you've dealt wirh Sags not

able to express themselves freely with you.
1/10/2014 7:16:12 AM | More
Cajunspirit

26 years old male

Vide cor Meum... Vi et Animo

Posted by AriesIntrovert16
Aren't you married to a sag? You're a Virgo right?


I am a virgo but I am not married, I am single.

Posted by AriesIntrovert16
Maybe you should talk to them about their behavior.. Most of them appreciate honesty.. I'm sure if you brought it to their attention they wouldn't be such "hypocrites" anymore. They are friendly people and like to hangout with almost anyone who wants to. Including exes. I think you're reading too much into these girls' behavior.


I did, it was to no avail. I talked and talked, complained and complained, eschewed how it made me feel and still they did these things.

1/10/2014 7:16:45 AM | More
Cajunspirit

26 years old male

Vide cor Meum... Vi et Animo

Posted by RainDancer88
Hi CajunSpirit, I had to respond to this. I am literally the woman currently doing this in my relationship as we speak. Caught me red handed lol.

Best I can tell you is that if you're witnessing that behavior, it is due to the fact that she must be into you (a lot more than she is willing to put on ) I want to portray a certain air of myself when I'm attracted to my man. When I feel SECURE, I am funny, sweet, sexual and fun and it's because the man is making me feel good about myself. When I do not receive enough reassurance and feel INSECURE (like my heart could be threatened), I HAVE to verbally get it out! By that I mean.... could be I say, "hey, you know if you just want to be friends than you have to let me know" or "hey, you're giving mixed signals, and I felt neglected because of ... blah bah".

POINT BEING, if we feel like we are putting in some effort, we want it back ten fold until we feel deserving enough to love you back openly.

Not sure if this will help you, but eh. Got to be very specific when asking a sag a question Chances are, we will answer bluntly.


In the beginning, she would try to break up with me every month. Always seemingly testing me and suggesting I should see other people. This was extremely tiring. I quickly noticed a great disparity between the amount of effort I was giving and the amount she gave.

She went out with a Libra man in July and left me to be with him by August. I confronted her directly and she lied about him. I caught her receiving a text from him " I want you more " and she lied and said it was the first time she ever got a text like that. After that was all downhill, she would argue every day that we were not compatible and that the relationship was going no where. She went out on a Friday and didn't tell me about it, which I hate, so that pissed me off. She then used that against me as an excuse to break up over IM. The next day I go to see her and as I pull up I notice the car she described he has pass by with her ducking her head down. I waited an hour seeing them circling several times for him to drop her off. I tried to ask him what was going on, but he would not lower his window. I confront her in her yard and she gives me the "What I do with my life is my business". The next day she denies he is the new boyfriend and that they simply went to the beach.
1/10/2014 7:19:32 AM | More
Cajunspirit

26 years old male

Vide cor Meum... Vi et Animo

I pointed out this is ludicrous and that obviously something is going on, she denies again.

Fast forward two months I take her and her cousin, visiting from abroad, out for ice cream. I drop them home and notice a man in a different car waiting on her. I find out the next day it is the same Libra, he is the boyfriend. He is wealthy and owns 2 cars.

I have never been lied to so much in my life.

Posted by Ulalume
This has nary a thing to do with insecrity lol.

Most Sags don't like broadcasting when they're

feeling not themselves or in a rough spot. Most

will go off and work butter out on their own. Why

"burden" someone else with their stuff? And this

is tenfold given the Moon placements of the Sags

you're speaking of.


Any guy that is gonna date a typical Sag needs to

set boundaries and draw your line in the sand from

jump. Other wise you'll get the taste of their double

standards. It sounds like you've dealt wirh Sags not

able to express themselves freely with you.


I broke many rules for her, compromised several times.
But she never saw the point in compromising, was very secretive and kept all her problems to herself.

This behaviour is not healthy for a relationship.

1/10/2014 7:34:36 AM | More
Cajunspirit

26 years old male

Vide cor Meum... Vi et Animo

Posted by beautifulsoul74
Ironically, a thread such as this one is hypocritical coming from a Virgo. Are those the traits of some Sag women? Yes. But I have seen your sign, the males display the exact same traits. Did you ever stop to think while analyzing her that you were actually analyzing yourself? As in...she's mirroring you? What's equally amusing is your response to her behavior. "She did it so imma do it too." If you expect a certain pattern of behavior you should demonstrate it first instead of following.


I did set the example. I was trusting, expressive, constantly communicating, always making an effort to solve problems, stating openly when something bothered me, did not see my exes nor go out with people who seemed to have crushes on me.

But she did, she set the stage. I would try to talk about it, but she would brush it off "Can we not talk about this now/at this location". She only discussed problems over IM which made it worse. No face to face contact. So after months of talking about it, me complaining, me saying how it made me feel, me pointing out the hypocrisy. I decided to do one of these things back to her and she could not handle it.

Sags are very observant. Most likely what has happened is that she observed you fraternizing with your exes in a subtlety romantic way and instead of taking your approach and criticizing to enforce hypocritical standards she kept silent and tolerated until she needed space to recharge.


She has a habit of "fantasising" about what I "could" have done when I truthfully told her what I had been doing. I don't know if this is a Sagi thing, but it is one of the most masochistic self torture routines I have ever observed. It did'nt matter to her what I said, because she already had a preconceived notion of behaviour based on her "fantasies".

I caught her going out with a boy down the road who had a crush on her, I caught her sitting with her ex in the same chair at a coffee shop, I caught her playing pool with her other ex. I never saw any of mine for the length of the relationship, nor did I go out with any persons who seemed to have crushes on me.
1/10/2014 7:35:26 AM | More
Cajunspirit

26 years old male

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She always wanted to be the centre of my attention, for me to be the good boy while she does what ever the hell she wants. That seems to be the notion Sagittarius women have, a behaved man who will always welcome and support them, be happy to see them even when though they go out with other people at their whim. It's a one way street.

Do as I say, not as I do.

You on the other hand continually pointed out her flaws until she went supernova, which really isonly her finally telling you the truth about her seeing what you're pulling. You're ego gets bruised because you can't see the emotional aspect of your actions...what you did to her because in your mind you're actually afraid of commitment. Hence you still hanging with your exes but yet she can't.


I wish you were right, I wish I had such convicting guilt on my shoulder, but I do not.
Saggies can blow their mouths off whenever they feel like and say some harsh and cruel things, but criticise them and woah boy are you wrong.

I was always the one talking about marriage while she would freak out or skirt the issue.
I was always the one when she had her panic attacks to try and calm her, to find out how she felt while she just ran away. Run run run, run away from all your problems, the saggie solution.
1/10/2014 7:38:14 AM | More
Cajunspirit

26 years old male

Vide cor Meum... Vi et Animo

Posted by scorpgal76
My ex is a Saggie (although male of course). Doesn't sound like he's much different from the female in your post though. Soooooo insecure, and he had a lot of Scorp in his chart, plus a Taurus moon. Nothing I said or did was enough to reassure him. And yes, it would take a lot of prodding to get him to tell me what was wrong & then the "supernova" as u've called it....u couldn't have picked a better term for that emotional display!


I think RainDancer put it well. They want attention back 10 fold for what they give.
Which just isn't fair.
1/10/2014 12:10:57 PM | More
scorpgal76

female

Sun, Merc, Mars, Uranus in Scorpio Moon

Oh & the harem of female friends....I was supposed to be all accepting of that because of course nothing was going on there because he said so, yet I wasn't allowed to have any male friends without being accused of cheating. Total double standards.
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