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luvairywaters
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So I was seeing this Capricorn guy and I already read what a Capricorn sun sign is about but not trying to let it discourage me.

We hung out a few times before going on our first official date. He’s love bombing me and he bought me flowers.

Our first date was great! Mind you I’m the one who did the planning.

Second date I asked him if he’d plan it. So he asked me “is sushi okay?” and of course I said yes. So we decided 9 pm he’ll pick me up and then he said he was running late so he’d be here at 9:30 then 9:30 turned into 10. At this point I’m bothered he’s late and he was also date for our first date. Anyways, I hadn’t eaten anything since lunch saving my appetite for sushi. We pull up to this Sushi spot that has always looked unappealing and they are closed. This entire time he didn’t even bother to check what time they close. He doesn’t even ask if I’m hungry and he just assumed I wanted to go to the bar and we proceed to go from one bar to the other and the second bar required an entry fee of $ 20 each. He paid for the first round of drinks we bar 1 and remember I didn’t even eat. We get into bar 2 and we

order and he asks me “babe you got this?” and I was confused.

I had told this man I just spent $ 700 on my car insurance and my car registration and I didn’t even have my debit card on me. I proceeded to tell him “well I don’t have my debit card but I’ll Zelle you for the 3rd round”. He’s like “oh don’t worry about it” and I said “no I don’t like how you put me in this awkward position”. I tried to Zelle him but it kept saying pending so it wasn’t working.

He said I’m good with one more drink so we went back to the bar and he was waiting for me to pay and I said I tried sending you money can you check? but it still said pending.

The bar tender finished making our drinks and this guy says “I’ll be right back I’m going to the bathroom”. I’m waiting for him and I even shake this guys hand next to me and apologizing for holding up a place because he was ordering drinks and I shook his hand. I am still waiting asking where he is and then he text me “have a good night” and left me at the bar!

I was so embarrassed, confused, and mortified this guy left me! He really just left me with an open tab at a bar.

Is this normal behavior for a Capricorn man?!

Why would anyone do this to a woman?
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luvairywaters
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Posted by poppyflower
Why did you go without a debit card? Maybe he thought you were trying to indirectly mooch off of him...


Because I had left my debit card at my best friends and she’s holding on to it until I see her. I do not give off mooching vibes. I do believe in a man paying for dates and such things in the beginning of dating a woman, that’s just standard. If he was my boyfriend than paying for drinks wouldn’t feel awkward. Another thing is we didn’t even go to dinner because of his lack of effort looking into not only a decent sushi place but one that was open.
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luvairywaters
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Why did you go without a debit card? Maybe he thought you were trying to indirectly mooch off of him...




Because I had left my debit card at my best friends and she’s holding on to it until I see her. I do not give off mooching vibes. I do believe in a man paying for dates and such things in the beginning of dating a woman, that’s just standard. If he was my boyfriend than paying for drinks wouldn’t feel awkward. Another thing is we didn’t even go to dinner because of his lack of effort looking into not only a decent sushi place but one that was open.
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But you were expecting him to pay for the entire date for both of you. That's probably the message he got... I'm guessing he did already pay for the whole thing on first date as well. Maybe he had prior bad experiences with women who were gold diggers.

I find Caps aren't necessarily stingy but often tends to be money conscious.
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I offered to send him money which I attempted to a few times but it wasn’t going through so my effort to pay for the 3 round was given. My Zelle wasn’t working my Apple Pay wasn’t working, my bank was flagging my transactions all day that day too.

This doesn’t give him a reason to leave me at an establishment with an open tab.

Luckily I was able to contact my best friend to get me

an Uber because my Apple wallet wasn’t even allowing me to do that.
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luvairywaters
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Why did you go without a debit card? Maybe he thought you were trying to indirectly mooch off of him...

Because I had left my debit card at my best friends and she’s holding on to it until I see her. I do not give off mooching vibes. I do believe in a man paying for dates and such things in the beginning of dating a woman, that’s just standard. If he was my boyfriend than paying for drinks wouldn’t feel awkward. Another thing is we didn’t even go to dinner because of his lack of effort looking into not only a decent sushi place but one that was open.
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But you were expecting him to pay for the entire date for both of you. That's probably the message he got... I'm guessing he did already pay for the whole thing on first date as well. Maybe he had prior bad experiences with women who were gold diggers.
I find Caps aren't necessarily stingy but often tends to be money conscious.
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I offered to send him money which I attempted to a few times but it wasn’t going through so my effort to pay for the 3 round was given. My Zelle wasn’t working my Apple Pay wasn’t working, my bank was flagging my transactions all day that day too.
This doesn’t give him a reason to leave me at an establishment with an open tab.
Luckily I was able to contact my best friend to get me
an Uber because my Apple wallet wasn’t even allowing me to do that.
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u failed the cap male test, he just left
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I wonder how he would feel if in the future his daughter gets tested this way. lol
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luvairywaters
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The chemistry was 100% amazing! Meaning sexual and mental connection was there. He was love bombing like crazy which was a little weird, he even bought me flowers.

He told me “I’d be the type of guy to fill your gas tank and fix things for you”.

I have my own place and my Nissan but this man rented a room and told me the reason why he stayed with his baby mama was because he had nowhere else to go so to me it’s not me being the mooch, he’s used to living off a woman probably.
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Posted by misslibrascorpio
The chemistry was 100% amazing! Meaning sexual and mental connection was there. He was love bombing like crazy which was a little weird, he even bought me flowers.

He told me “I’d be the type of guy to fill your gas tank and fix things for you”.

I have my own place and my Nissan but this man rented a room and told me the reason why he stayed with his baby mama was because he had nowhere else to go so to me it’s not me being the mooch, he’s used to living off a woman probably.


Talk is cheap. That last paragraph sums up the kind of dude he is. I have no idea how any of that attracted you to begin with. And a guy not on time for no good reason is usually a red flag.
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Posted by misslibrascorpio
The chemistry was 100% amazing! Meaning sexual and mental connection was there. He was love bombing like crazy which was a little weird, he even bought me flowers.

He told me “I’d be the type of guy to fill your gas tank and fix things for you”.

I have my own place and my Nissan but this man rented a room and told me the reason why he stayed with his baby mama was because he had nowhere else to go so to me it’s not me being the mooch, he’s used to living off a woman probably.


Wait he’s still with his babies mother’s house…passing you a story they’re not together??

Nah, sorry. Men don’t stay in their exes homes.

You didn’t fail a test, he ran out of time on the clock.
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Posted by misslibrascorpio
The chemistry was 100% amazing! Meaning sexual and mental connection was there. He was love bombing like crazy which was a little weird, he even bought me flowers.

He told me “I’d be the type of guy to fill your gas tank and fix things for you”.

I have my own place and my Nissan but this man rented a room and told me the reason why he stayed with his baby mama was because he had nowhere else to go so to me it’s not me being the mooch, he’s used to living off a woman probably.


Nissan 👀…

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I dont know what zelle is

but I would never leave the house without money or cards

The idea is completely foreign to me


Me too. I use Google wallet so my card details are in my phone but I will also never go out without money even if it wasn't.

I think it's OP's entitlement that was a huge turnoff for the guy. Going without any money expecting the guy to pay for everything. Getting offended when he asked if it's ok for you cover the second round though he probably paid for the dinner and drinks prior? He probably thought she was just using him.

On the contrary I find caps generally very generous to the point where I've seen a lot of women taken advantage of them for their generousity.

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Why did you go without a debit card? Maybe he thought you were trying to indirectly mooch off of him...

Because I had left my debit card at my best friends and she’s holding on to it until I see her. I do not give off mooching vibes. I do believe in a man paying for dates and such things in the beginning of dating a woman, that’s just standard. If he was my boyfriend than paying for drinks wouldn’t feel awkward. Another thing is we didn’t even go to dinner because of his lack of effort looking into not only a decent sushi place but one that was open.
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But you were expecting him to pay for the entire date for both of you. That's probably the message he got... I'm guessing he did already pay for the whole thing on first date as well. Maybe he had prior bad experiences with women who were gold diggers.
I find Caps aren't necessarily stingy but often tends to be money conscious.
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I offered to send him money which I attempted to a few times but it wasn’t going through so my effort to pay for the 3 round was given. My Zelle wasn’t working my Apple Pay wasn’t working, my bank was flagging my transactions all day that day too.

This doesn’t give him a reason to leave me at an establishment with an open tab.

Luckily I was able to contact my best friend to get me

an Uber because my Apple wallet wasn’t even allowing me to do that.
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My guess is how you handled the situation on a emotional level was a red flag for him.

I imagine you had attitude about the situation that he was not ok with. Also, soured the night, especially continuously trying to zelle and getting frustrated.
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Whoa!

Where do you find such assholes?

Too many red flags: 1) in a relationship; 2) with young (?) child; 3) leaving with his partner; 4) love bombing; 5) late; 6) late again; 7) invites you for dinner, but didn't reserve; 8) turns up at 10 pm (!) but didn't even check if still open/serving; 9) didn't care to find an alternative or that you were hungry; 10) tried to get you drunk with drinks on an empty stomach; 11) not prepare to pay for the date HE ARRANGED; 12) left like the cowards he was, etc

Next time don't wait for the flags to accumulate...leave early!

And no, you didn't have to pay if it was HIM who invited you for dinner! You went on this date prepared to be wined and dined, not go hungry on a drinking bender! I'm all for taking turns to pay on different dates, but he was a cheap loser who didn't want/couldn't afford to pay in full for one single date(another red flag).
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Why would anyone do this to a woman?
Because YOU DESERVED IT.

Going through life demanding to be treated like a goddess, solely due to vaguely resembling a third-rate Kardashian impersonator, while expecting 'real men' to be nothing but pathetic simps to your every whim, isn't going to get you very far.

Good luck with your self-entitled attitude.

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100% would let her take a night of my life
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This is why if I’m asked out on a date and I’m flat broke I don’t go. Even if the guy tells me ahead of time he is going to pay. I mean anything could happen. He could ditch me, he could have a heart attack in the middle of dinner and then I’m left trying to maneuver a wallet out of the pocket of a lifeless body while people are staring at me. No thank you. 😬 Shitty move him just leaving you there though. I don’t like that, but there are shitty people in this world. It’s just a fact of life. In fact I view everyone as shitty until they prove me otherwise. 🤷‍♀️
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I’m old and don’t date anymore, but if a man expected to go dutch on any of the first 3 dates, I’d be polite and understanding pay for myself but that would be the last time he saw me.

It’s not looking to be a gold digger, you are just assessing his actions and how he treats you. Is he happy to take care of you or to see you happy? Is he generous and easy going around spending money? Is he spending above his means to impress you? (this is a red flag)

Its great that we move into a world were men and women have more equal opportunity. But it ain’t fucking equal and women take on more risk in relationships. We take on more financial risk if we get pregnant, more risk to our safety and wellbeing.

In our society we are expected bring home the same amount of money but do 80-90% of the domestic labor of taking care of the children, home and the man, and that's if he doesn't decide to leave you to take care of it on your own. If he can’t pay for the first 3 dates, he can’t afford to be in a relationship with you. That man was gross.
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From a self preservation standpoint, you just need to have access to your own money 24/7/365, period no matter who you are, you need to be independent to be able to get yourself out of a situation like this (or worse) as a baseline

All of this would have been avoided at the beginning though if you had boundaries that it’s not okay for a man to roll up an hour late for no reason to a date at a time that you both decided, showing he has no issue with wasting your time. Setting expectations that is not an acceptable behavior - I think this dude ultimately went out without any money too. Yall both couldn’t pay for the date 😬I don’t know what your age is either, but bar hopping is not an acceptable alternative to dinner 🤷🏼‍♀️

This dude was a loser, there’s no loss here. As a woman, you can’t just expect men to have money these days. That’s a fairy tale long past. Most men aren’t the mature and masculine providers that women are seeking. Too many can barely make their own bills or hold down a job 💀
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I’m old and don’t date anymore, but if a man expected to go dutch on any of the first 3 dates, I’d be polite and understanding pay for myself but that would be the last time he saw me.

It’s not looking to be a gold digger, you are just assessing his actions and how he treats you. Is he happy to take care of you or to see you happy? Is he generous and easy going around spending money? Is he spending above his means to impress you? (this is a red flag)

Its great that we move into a world were men and women have more equal opportunity. But it ain’t fucking equal and women take on more risk in relationships. We take on more financial risk if we get pregnant, more risk to our safety and wellbeing.

In our society we are expected bring home the same amount of money but do 80-90% of the domestic labor of taking care of the children, home and the man, and that's if he doesn't decide to leave you to take care of it on your own. If he can’t pay for the first 3 dates, he can’t afford to be in a relationship with you. That man was gross.


This man literally told me “I’m the type of man who will put gas in your car and build things for you”.

I was in no way giving off a vibe that I wanted to take advantage of him. If anything he was also saying things like “I need to wife you up asap”.

I mean I can’t believe what a scam that was and that was our 2nd date! lol

I like that rule, if a man can’t pay for the first 3 dates he can’t afford to be dating. I firmly believe this too.

I had money I just couldn’t move it and he also failed to plan the date properly that he was late and the sushi place was closed so the least someone can do is make up for it.

Thank you 🩷
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I’m old and don’t date anymore, but if a man expected to go dutch on any of the first 3 dates, I’d be polite and understanding pay for myself but that would be the last time he saw me.

It’s not looking to be a gold digger, you are just assessing his actions and how he treats you. Is he happy to take care of you or to see you happy? Is he generous and easy going around spending money? Is he spending above his means to impress you? (this is a red flag)

Its great that we move into a world were men and women have more equal opportunity. But it ain’t fucking equal and women take on more risk in relationships. We take on more financial risk if we get pregnant, more risk to our safety and wellbeing.

In our society we are expected bring home the same amount of money but do 80-90% of the domestic labor of taking care of the children, home and the man, and that's if he doesn't decide to leave you to take care of it on your own. If he can’t pay for the first 3 dates, he can’t afford to be in a relationship with you. That man was gross.



This man literally told me “I’m the type of man who will put gas in your car and build things for you”.

I was in no way giving off a vibe that I wanted to take advantage of him. If anything he was also saying things like “I need to wife you up asap”.

I mean I can’t believe what a scam that was and that was our 2nd date! lol

I like that rule, if a man can’t pay for the first 3 dates he can’t afford to be dating. I firmly believe this too.

I had money I just couldn’t move it and he also failed to plan the date properly that he was late and the sushi place was closed so the least someone can do is make up for it.

Thank you 🩷
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Man I will say, when I was younger I would have given a pass on the "he made a mistake and got the wrong times". Now in my Mom/Family era... "You can't make a dinner reservation correctly? how are you going to register for little league and manage the game schedule?"

A man like that is just gonna be weaponizing incompetence all day long. GTFO!!!!
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Why do people think men going dutch on a FIRST DATE WHEN YOU TWO DON'T KNOW EACH OTHER is something that's like "disrespectful?" It's not indicative of anything really about how someone is gonna treat you. Expecting to be treated as a girlfriend or something right off the bat is just fucking wild.


Not me. I am fair and it’s always 50-50. If he is really broke or something, I don’t mind paying.
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The chemistry was 100% amazing! Meaning sexual and mental connection was there. He was love bombing like crazy which was a little weird, he even bought me flowers.
He told me “I’d be the type of guy to fill your gas tank and fix things for you”.
I have my own place and my Nissan but this man rented a room and told me the reason why he stayed with his baby mama was because he had nowhere else to go so to me it’s not me being the mooch, he’s used to living off a woman probably.
Nissan 👀…


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The Nissan was a red flag but all cars are equally shittily made nowadays, so any brand will work, except maybe Toyota.
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I have bought this car from my uncle and it’s paid off. I am avoiding a car payment right now and working on saving and building my credit for a Lexus.

My little Nissan versa is a great commuter.

The car a person drives doesn’t mean anything 🤦🏻‍♀️
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I’m old and don’t date anymore, but if a man expected to go dutch on any of the first 3 dates, I’d be polite and understanding pay for myself but that would be the last time he saw me.
It’s not looking to be a gold digger, you are just assessing his actions and how he treats you. Is he happy to take care of you or to see you happy? Is he generous and easy going around spending money? Is he spending above his means to impress you? (this is a red flag)
Its great that we move into a world were men and women have more equal opportunity. But it ain’t fucking equal and women take on more risk in relationships. We take on more financial risk if we get pregnant, more risk to our safety and wellbeing.
In our society we are expected bring home the same amount of money but do 80-90% of the domestic labor of taking care of the children, home and the man, and that's if he doesn't decide to leave you to take care of it on your own. If he can’t pay for the first 3 dates, he can’t afford to be in a relationship with you. That man was gross.




This man literally told me “I’m the type of man who will put gas in your car and build things for you”.

I was in no way giving off a vibe that I wanted to take advantage of him. If anything he was also saying things like “I need to wife you up asap”.

I mean I can’t believe what a scam that was and that was our 2nd date! lol

I like that rule, if a man can’t pay for the first 3 dates he can’t afford to be dating. I firmly believe this too.

I had money I just couldn’t move it and he also failed to plan the date properly that he was late and the sushi place was closed so the least someone can do is make up for it.

Thank you 🩷
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Man I will say, when I was younger I would have given a pass on the "he made a mistake and got the wrong times". Now in my Mom/Family era... "You can't make a dinner reservation correctly? how are you going to register for little league and manage the game schedule?"

A man like that is just gonna be weaponizing incompetence all day long. GTFO!!!!
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Oh and since people are talking about cars because I drive a Nissan Versa lol

He drives a BMW but used to sell drugs before getting a big boy job at a bank. He rents a room.

If you don’t even know how to make a reservation that’s a huge problem and I agree! How do you even manage your kids life/schedues?

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The chemistry was 100% amazing! Meaning sexual and mental connection was there. He was love bombing like crazy which was a little weird, he even bought me flowers.
He told me “I’d be the type of guy to fill your gas tank and fix things for you”.
I have my own place and my Nissan but this man rented a room and told me the reason why he stayed with his baby mama was because he had nowhere else to go so to me it’s not me being the mooch, he’s used to living off a woman probably.
Nissan 👀…


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The Nissan was a red flag but all cars are equally shittily made nowadays, so any brand will work, except maybe Toyota.
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Giving a shout out for Toyota Corollas 😀
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The chemistry was 100% amazing! Meaning sexual and mental connection was there. He was love bombing like crazy which was a little weird, he even bought me flowers.
He told me “I’d be the type of guy to fill your gas tank and fix things for you”.
I have my own place and my Nissan but this man rented a room and told me the reason why he stayed with his baby mama was because he had nowhere else to go so to me it’s not me being the mooch, he’s used to living off a woman probably.
Nissan 👀…

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The Nissan was a red flag but all cars are equally shittily made nowadays, so any brand will work, except maybe Toyota.




I have bought this car from my uncle and it’s paid off. I am avoiding a car payment right now and working on saving and building my credit for a Lexus.

My little Nissan versa is a great commuter.

The car a person drives doesn’t mean anything 🤦🏻‍♀️

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I believe you. Versa is legit. Cars were a status symbol a few years back. Now they're all made from the same shitty conglomerate. Lexus is a good choice tho cause it's got Toyota parts.
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Thank you 😊
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The chemistry was 100% amazing! Meaning sexual and mental connection was there. He was love bombing like crazy which was a little weird, he even bought me flowers.
He told me “I’d be the type of guy to fill your gas tank and fix things for you”.
I have my own place and my Nissan but this man rented a room and told me the reason why he stayed with his baby mama was because he had nowhere else to go so to me it’s not me being the mooch, he’s used to living off a woman probably.
Nissan 👀…


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The Nissan was a red flag but all cars are equally shittily made nowadays, so any brand will work, except maybe Toyota.



Giving a shout out for Toyota Corollas 😀



I had a 94 Corolla that rusted out but the engine kept on purring. Currently own two Yotas.
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The mechanics I’ve spoken to say they’re the best!

Which models do you have?
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Its great that we move into a world were men and women have more equal opportunity. But it ain’t fucking equal and women take on more risk in relationships. We take on more financial risk if we get pregnant, more risk to our safety and wellbeing.

Having children is a CHOICE. You are not obliged to procreate. If you wish to believe that, in life, you can have it all, more the fool you.

Setting that aside, men take far more risks than women because, when pursing potential partners (which most women are reluctant to do), men are venturing into the unknown – jumping through hoops and proving themselves to women, who they barely know, and have no idea if they are even truly compatible with. But, of course, you conveniently overlook such a significant point.

In most dating scenarios, the two individuals are practically strangers to each other. It’s only when BOTH parties have sufficiently proven themselves to each other that part of your argument has some validity.
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Sorry I'm not pro choice, so the guaranteed way to to not CHOOSE to have children is to not fuck. women take on far more risk with not only their body but their safety you can look of domestic violence and murder statistics on your own time.

Oh gosh darn its so hard to be a man, to prove yourself to a woman that you wont try to Rape her or Sexually assault pr harass her, or kidnap or murder her. When 81% of women reported experiencing this in their lifetime.

tell me how hard it is to be a man.
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Its great that we move into a world were men and women have more equal opportunity. But it ain’t fucking equal and women take on more risk in relationships. We take on more financial risk if we get pregnant, more risk to our safety and wellbeing.
Having children is a CHOICE. You are not obliged to procreate. If you wish to believe that, in life, you can have it all, more the fool you.

Setting that aside, men take far more risks than women because, when pursing potential partners (which most women are reluctant to do), men are venturing into the unknown – jumping through hoops and proving themselves to women, who they barely know, and have no idea if they are even truly compatible with. But, of course, you conveniently overlook such a significant point.

In most dating scenarios, the two individuals are practically strangers to each other. It’s only when BOTH parties have sufficiently proven themselves to each other that part of your argument has some validity.

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Sorry I'm not pro choice, so the guaranteed way to to not CHOOSE to have children is to not fuck. women take on far more risk with not only their body but their safety you can look of domestic violence and murder statistics on your own time.

Oh gosh darn its so hard to be a man, to prove yourself to a woman that you wont try to Rape her or Sexually assault pr harass her, or kidnap or murder her. When 81% of women reported experiencing this in their lifetime.

tell me how hard it is to be a man.
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You're not pro choice? This seems contradictory to what I've seen of you over the years? What a day to learn something
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Its great that we move into a world were men and women have more equal opportunity. But it ain’t fucking equal and women take on more risk in relationships. We take on more financial risk if we get pregnant, more risk to our safety and wellbeing.

Having children is a CHOICE. You are not obliged to procreate. If you wish to believe that, in life, you can have it all, more the fool you.





Setting that aside, men take far more risks than women because, when pursing potential partners (which most women are reluctant to do), men are venturing into the unknown – jumping through hoops and proving themselves to women, who they barely know, and have no idea if they are even truly compatible with. But, of course, you conveniently overlook such a significant point.





In most dating scenarios, the two individuals are practically strangers to each other. It’s only when BOTH parties have sufficiently proven themselves to each other that part of your argument has some validity.






Sorry I'm not pro choice, so the guaranteed way to to not CHOOSE to have children is to not fuck. women take on far more risk with not only their body but their safety you can look of domestic violence and murder statistics on your own time.



Oh gosh darn its so hard to be a man, to prove yourself to a woman that you wont try to Rape her or Sexually assault pr harass her, or kidnap or murder her. When 81% of women reported experiencing this in their lifetime.



tell me how hard it is to be a man.

Here we go, when all else fails, bring out the DV and rape card...

*yawns*

If you think that negates the risks that men have to endure in the dating world, that only highlights your gender bias and tunnel vision.

Btw, various statistic's show that a significant proportion of DV cases were initiated by women. If you don't believe me, do the research yourself.

How hard it is to be a man... Maybe you should ask many of the trans men who either detransitioned or committed suicide afterwards. They obviously discovered that male privilege is completely a myth.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12183781/Trans-man-weeps-explaining-easier-make-friends-women.html
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I don’t really even believe in transgenderism the way its sold to us. I believe that our gender is determined by how our hormones create our biology, and that there is a spectrum of masculine or feminine that comes natural to us. But most of the way we identify gender in our society is constructed, so IMO transitioning yourself from one gender to the other is just performative to conform to societies ideas of what it wants gender to be.

My biology has a gender, that the hormones in my body have made and continue to make that determination. But this is just the meat suit that my soul has been put into. And my soul has no gender. So I think if you feel like your Trans and want to go through the trouble of changing your biology, you’re really worried about the wrong shit.

@Solo You also convince me that a soul isn’t put into an embryo before its 3 months old. You don’t know that, and I’m not going to kill a 3 month old baby the same as I’m not going to kill a 3 month old fetus. There is no difference to me.

We can disagree all day long on which gender has the harder experiences, honestly it doesn’t matter to me. I’m clear on who I am and how I want to live my life. If that is having standards on how I want to be treated or someone to interact with me, its my choice what that is and who meets that criteria.
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Its great that we move into a world were men and women have more equal opportunity. But it ain’t fucking equal and women take on more risk in relationships. We take on more financial risk if we get pregnant, more risk to our safety and wellbeing.

Having children is a CHOICE. You are not obliged to procreate. If you wish to believe that, in life, you can have it all, more the fool you.







Setting that aside, men take far more risks than women because, when pursing potential partners (which most women are reluctant to do), men are venturing into the unknown – jumping through hoops and proving themselves to women, who they barely know, and have no idea if they are even truly compatible with. But, of course, you conveniently overlook such a significant point.







In most dating scenarios, the two individuals are practically strangers to each other. It’s only when BOTH parties have sufficiently proven themselves to each other that part of your argument has some validity.









Sorry I'm not pro choice, so the guaranteed way to to not CHOOSE to have children is to not fuck. women take on far more risk with not only their body but their safety you can look of domestic violence and murder statistics on your own time.





Oh gosh darn its so hard to be a man, to prove yourself to a woman that you wont try to Rape her or Sexually assault pr harass her, or kidnap or murder her. When 81% of women reported experiencing this in their lifetime.





tell me how hard it is to be a man.

Here we go, when all else fails, bring out the DV and rape card...



*yawns*



If you think that negates the risks that men have to endure in the dating world, that only highlights your gender bias and tunnel vision.



Btw, various statistic's show that a significant proportion of DV cases were initiated by women. If you don't believe me, do the research yourself.



How hard it is to be a man... Maybe you should ask many of the trans men who either detransitioned or committed suicide afterwards. They obviously discovered that male privilege is completely a myth.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12183781/Trans-man-weeps-explaining-easier-make-friends-women.html





I don’t really even believe in transgenderism the way its sold to us. I believe that our gender is determined by how our hormones create our biology, and that there is a spectrum of masculine or feminine that comes natural to us. But most of the way we identify gender in our society is constructed, so IMO transitioning yourself from one gender to the other is just performative to conform to societies ideas of what it wants gender to be.

My biology has a gender, that the hormones in my body have made and continue to make that determination. But this is just the meat suit that my soul has been put into. And my soul has no gender. So I think if you feel like your Trans and want to go through the trouble of changing your biology, you’re really worried about the wrong shit.

@Solo You also convince me that a soul isn’t put into an embryo before its 3 months old. You don’t know that, and I’m not going to kill a 3 month old baby the same as I’m not going to kill a 3 month old fetus. There is no difference to me.

We can disagree all day long on which gender has the harder experiences, honestly it doesn’t matter to me. I’m clear on who I am and how I want to live my life. If that is having standards on how I want to be treated or someone to interact with me, its my choice what that is and who meets that criteria.
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With regards to choice of abortion or not - so you think that the only way to avoid maternity is for them to abstinent? I'm just confused from what I remember about you. You would encourage a woman to have less choice should something happen? It seemed like you were for.. not that kinda thought
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