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Live Open App LIVE: RFK Jr. suspends his presidential bid
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I didn't listen to all of it so, I'm not sure if he explained this. I just head that he was dropping out in swing states to not pull from Trump and let Kamala those electoral votes. And I was thinking why suspend and not drop out? and I remembered what Nicole Shanahan said earlier this week.
I don't know if a certain percentage of votes are needed, but I think this way they can create a new party. And I think that is now the priority.
And if thats the case, as Californian I will 100% vote for him.
Because she said they have two options, stay in and help Kamala win but create new party, or drop out so she doesn't win. But this strategy creates an opportunity for the best of both outcomes. I think this is their best FU to the DNC.
I don't know if a certain percentage of votes are needed, but I think this way they can create a new party. And I think that is now the priority.
And if thats the case, as Californian I will 100% vote for him.
Because she said they have two options, stay in and help Kamala win but create new party, or drop out so she doesn't win. But this strategy creates an opportunity for the best of both outcomes. I think this is their best FU to the DNC.
We need a 3rd party very very badly.
RNC and DNC is like coke and pepsi, they compete only in name yet instead of friendly competition they are complacent and incompetent as a whole. There is no real pressure to perform thier job, it's just playing real life house of cards.
RNC and DNC is like coke and pepsi, they compete only in name yet instead of friendly competition they are complacent and incompetent as a whole. There is no real pressure to perform thier job, it's just playing real life house of cards.
Posted by Lostthoughts
We need a 3rd party very very badly.
RNC and DNC is like coke and pepsi, they compete only in name yet instead of friendly competition they are complacent and incompetent as a whole. There is no real pressure to perform thier job, it's just playing real life house of cards.
That is a deceiving statement. These people are very good at their jobs, and have 100% satisfaction rate from the people who pay them.
He is the only Democrat I would even consider voting for since Obama.
Posted by AstrobynPosted by Lostthoughts
We need a 3rd party very very badly.
RNC and DNC is like coke and pepsi, they compete only in name yet instead of friendly competition they are complacent and incompetent as a whole. There is no real pressure to perform thier job, it's just playing real life house of cards.
That is a deceiving statement. These people are very good at their jobs, and have 100% satisfaction rate from the people who pay them.click to expand
I'm sure they do. If you keep your mouth shut and let the deep rooted corruption continue to spread, of course you will have a 100% satisfaction rate from the people who pay you.
There's not going to be a third party, democracy works very well with the two parties (or "left vs right" concept in other countries) because representative democracy is a scam made to facilitate corruption in the first place
Posted by AstrobynPosted by Lostthoughts
We need a 3rd party very very badly.
RNC and DNC is like coke and pepsi, they compete only in name yet instead of friendly competition they are complacent and incompetent as a whole. There is no real pressure to perform thier job, it's just playing real life house of cards.
That is a deceiving statement. These people are very good at their jobs, and have 100% satisfaction rate from the people who pay them.click to expand
Lmao 🤣
Well said.
Which means it's a real solution. I'd be up for putting REAL EFFORT in supporting a 3rd party.
Which means ignoring the whole spoiler candidate and other forms of disenfranching and undermining efforts.
There are enough people with actual attention spans and intelligence to get something started.
The more people asking for it the more confidence in people trying to fill that whole.
I was correct he needs 5% of the vote to create a new party he will have extra funding and entitled to the same rights as the other two party candidates. Like they can't keep him out of debates and kick him off ballets.
Posted by SoloPosted by Soul
He is the only Democrat ...
lol what
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Shhhh, let them think what they want. Most sane people (majority of the US) already know candidates like RFK Jr don't have a shot in hell ever of becoming a leader of a third party that's viable come election time. It needs to be somebody else.
Posted by WarAngel79Posted by SoloPosted by Soullol what
He is the only Democrat ...
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Shhhh, let them think what they want. Most sane people (majority of the US) already know candidates like RFK Jr don't have a shot in hell ever of becoming a leader of a third party that's viable come election time. It needs to be somebody else.click to expand
Anyone here could look at the article I posted in this thread and like the first sentence gives it away, i think it was
Posted by WarAngel79Posted by SoloPosted by Soullol what
He is the only Democrat ...
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Shhhh, let them think what they want. Most sane people (majority of the US) already know candidates like RFK Jr don't have a shot in hell ever of becoming a leader of a third party that's viable come election time. It needs to be somebody else.click to expand
Anyone here could look at the article I posted in this thread and like the first sentence gives it away, i think it was
Posted by WarAngel79Posted by SoloPosted by Soullol what
He is the only Democrat ...
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Shhhh, let them think what they want. Most sane people (majority of the US) already know candidates like RFK Jr don't have a shot in hell ever of becoming a leader of a third party that's viable come election time. It needs to be somebody else.click to expand
Genuine curiosity... whom would you propose as a 3rd party leader? Or which party for that matter?
Unrelated to the above comment...
and no, the channel is not republican leaning/affiliated!
Posted by ArgusPosted by WarAngel79Posted by SoloShhhh, let them think what they want. Most sane people (majority of the US) already know candidates like RFK Jr don't have a shot in hell ever of becoming a leader of a third party that's viable come election time. It needs to be somebody else.Posted by Soullol what
He is the only Democrat ...
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Genuine curiosity... whom would you propose as a 3rd party leader? Or which party for that matter?
Unrelated to the above comment...
This is such a disingenuous video lol. That stock pic is showing purchases at 480? It was that low in July. Sooooo? And a bunch of few second clips with maybe not even a full sentence, is not a good showing lol.
It's his commentary and then clips into:
"(T)hat America, not China, wins the competition for the 21st century and.."
"(T)o defend our forces and our interests against Iran and Iran-backed terrorists."
"I helped mobilize a global response, over 50 countries, to defend against Putin's aggression."
"I will not cozy up to tyrants and dictators like Kim Jong-Un who are rooting for Trump. Who are rooting for Trump."
We could probably agree that the Israel/Palestine situation is a never-ending war.. that every single Congress has approved since the inception of the war. So it's really a moot point. It happened under Trump, it happened under Biden, it will likely happen under Harris if she wins, it will likely happen under Trump again if he wins.
And I don't see anything wrong with 3 outta 4 of those statements. Lol, the only thing I could have any problem with is Iran stuff (I don't know what the issue is in recent time). I think helping a country defending themselves from being invaded isn't the worst thing. I wouldn't realistically advocate for ever attacking Russia or China or any of that personally for no reason. It's a keep your hands to yourself situation, to me.
Posted by SoulPosted by SoloPosted by Soullol what
He is the only Democrat ...
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Yea.click to expand
Independent U.S. presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. wants a deal with Donald Trump in which he endorses the Republican rival in exchange for a job in a potential Trump administration, a super PAC supporting Kennedy told Reuters on Wednesday.
Posted by SoloPosted by ArgusPosted by WarAngel79Genuine curiosity... whom would you propose as a 3rd party leader? Or which party for that matter?Posted by SoloShhhh, let them think what they want. Most sane people (majority of the US) already know candidates like RFK Jr don't have a shot in hell ever of becoming a leader of a third party that's viable come election time. It needs to be somebody else.Posted by Soullol what
He is the only Democrat ...
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Unrelated to the above comment...
and no, the channel is not republican leaning/affiliated!
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This is such a disingenuous video lol. That stock pic is showing purchases at 480? It was that low in July. Sooooo? And a bunch of few second clips with maybe not even a full sentence, is not a good showing lol.
It's his commentary and then clips into:
"(T)hat America, not China, wins the competition for the 21st century and.."
"(T)o defend our forces and our interests against Iran and Iran-backed terrorists."
"I helped mobilize a global response, over 50 countries, to defend against Putin's aggression."
"I will not cozy up to tyrants and dictators like Kim Jong-Un who are rooting for Trump. Who are rooting for Trump."
We could probably agree that the Israel/Palestine situation is a never-ending war.. that every single Congress has approved since the inception of the war. So it's really a moot point. It happened under Trump, it happened under Biden, it will likely happen under Harris if she wins, it will likely happen under Trump again if he wins.
And I don't see anything wrong with 3 outta 4 of those statements. Lol, the only thing I could have any problem with is Iran stuff (I don't know what the issue is in recent time). I think helping a country defending themselves from being invaded isn't the worst thing. I wouldn't realistically advocate for ever attacking Russia or China or any of that personally for no reason. It's a keep your hands to yourself situation, to me.click to expand
I would looove to address soo many points of yours. Unfortunately, I honestly do not know were to begin. Not for the lack of inormation, but the exact opposite! I will, however, try to briefly address the point of Iran! The "issue" with Iran is that they are 4th ranking in terms of oil reserves. As a matter of fact, it has always been about oil! It goes back as far as 1909, if not earlier, when Britsish Petroleum (BP) wanted to bet their sticky fingers on it.
Even the shit show happening in Palestine is about oil. You can easily check how many drilling licenses has Israel issued since in the last 9-10 months.
Venezuela has suffered similar fate, once again, thanks to having had oil reserves (rumors has it they are depleted now but who knows)
As far as Russia goes, I've already shared a damn near dissertation of stuff few months back so I honestly don't feel like repeating myself.
Congo.... lithium
Etc etc etc...
If the general populace fails to make the connection as to how the imperialistic attitude of the ruling elite is in(directly) effecting us here in the states alone (never mind world at learge) we are in deep shit my dear!
As far as Lockheed Martin stock goes...I wasnt paying attention to his "diagrams". What I do know is that just few days ago, when all other stock plummeted, theirs went up... which in and off itself is quite telling!
US has always, throughout history, manufactured (emphasis on manufactured) enemies out of thin air so as to justify its bottomless greed! Sadest part in all of that, for a country that touts itself as the wealthiest nation in the world ( most certainly not) western as hell have a fuck ton of homeless people.
For as long as they can manipulate us and keep us emotionally charged, divided and fighting against each other, no one else is at fakut for our own demise but ouselfves. i mean that on the global as well as the local scale.
Last but most certainly not least... if you have not done it so far, I suggested reading stuff by Seymor Hersh. Glen Greewald, Aaron Matte, Kim Iverson and few other indipendant journalist! The more you know!!!
OK, can't be arssed to correct my typos.
Also, to add to my previous post...BRICS! 🤷🏻♀️
Also, to add to my previous post...BRICS! 🤷🏻♀️
Posted by ArgusPosted by SoloPosted by ArgusThis is such a disingenuous video lol. That stock pic is showing purchases at 480? It was that low in July. Sooooo? And a bunch of few second clips with maybe not even a full sentence, is not a good showing lol.Posted by WarAngel79Genuine curiosity... whom would you propose as a 3rd party leader? Or which party for that matter?Posted by SoloShhhh, let them think what they want. Most sane people (majority of the US) already know candidates like RFK Jr don't have a shot in hell ever of becoming a leader of a third party that's viable come election time. It needs to be somebody else.Posted by Soullol what
He is the only Democrat ...
click to expand
click to expand
Unrelated to the above comment...
and no, the channel is not republican leaning/affiliated!
click to expand
It's his commentary and then clips into:
"(T)hat America, not China, wins the competition for the 21st century and.."
"(T)o defend our forces and our interests against Iran and Iran-backed terrorists."
"I helped mobilize a global response, over 50 countries, to defend against Putin's aggression."
"I will not cozy up to tyrants and dictators like Kim Jong-Un who are rooting for Trump. Who are rooting for Trump."
We could probably agree that the Israel/Palestine situation is a never-ending war.. that every single Congress has approved since the inception of the war. So it's really a moot point. It happened under Trump, it happened under Biden, it will likely happen under Harris if she wins, it will likely happen under Trump again if he wins.
And I don't see anything wrong with 3 outta 4 of those statements. Lol, the only thing I could have any problem with is Iran stuff (I don't know what the issue is in recent time). I think helping a country defending themselves from being invaded isn't the worst thing. I wouldn't realistically advocate for ever attacking Russia or China or any of that personally for no reason. It's a keep your hands to yourself situation, to me.
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I would looove to address soo many points of yours. Unfortunately, I honestly do not know were to begin. Not for the lack of inormation, but the exact opposite! I will, however, try to briefly address the point of Iran! The "issue" with Iran is that they are 4th ranking in terms of oil reserves. As a matter of fact, it has always been about oil! It goes back as far as 1909, if not earlier, when Britsish Petroleum (BP) wanted to bet their sticky fingers on it.
Even the shit show happening in Palestine is about oil. You can easily check how many drilling licenses has Israel issued since in the last 9-10 months.
Venezuela has suffered similar fate, once again, thanks to having had oil reserves (rumors has it they are depleted now but who knows)
As far as Russia goes, I've already shared a damn near dissertation of stuff few months back so I honestly don't feel like repeating myself.
Congo.... lithium
Etc etc etc...
If the general populace fails to make the connection as to how the imperialistic attitude of the ruling elite is in(directly) effecting us here in the states alone (never mind world at learge) we are in deep shit my dear!
As far as Lockheed Martin stock goes...I wasnt paying attention to his "diagrams". What I do know is that just few days ago, when all other stock plummeted, theirs went up... which in and off itself is quite telling!
US has always, throughout history, manufactured (emphasis on manufactured) enemies out of thin air so as to justify its bottomless greed! Sadest part in all of that, for a country that touts itself as the wealthiest nation in the world ( most certainly not) western as hell have a fuck ton of homeless people.
For as long as they can manipulate us and keep us emotionally charged, divided and fighting against each other, no one else is at fakut for our own demise but ouselfves. i mean that on the global as well as the local scale.
Last but most certainly not least... if you have not done it so far, I suggested reading stuff by Seymor Hersh. Glen Greewald, Aaron Matte, Kim Iverson and few other indipendant journalist! The more you know!!!
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So this didn't really expand on anything except Iran, potentially. His video didn't really show what it's titled or what he claimed she was saying. Should we let Russia bully Ukraine because we have also done poor things? The topic wasn't about materials. What is bad about what she said in his video? There's nothing there. We know the US is/can be imperialistic. This is nothing new.
If you're gonna propose something as showing what you want, you should probably vet it a bit lol. Or else you run the risk of this situation. I don't have a reason to really believe anything he says because he showed that blatant lie.
Can you show me a way to verify the LMT stock going up when everything else went down? I can't seem to find a way to see it next to other stocks and have their last 5day-7day+ charts percentage change.
United States of AIPAC.
Posted by SoloPosted by ArgusPosted by SoloI would looove to address soo many points of yours. Unfortunately, I honestly do not know were to begin. Not for the lack of inormation, but the exact opposite! I will, however, try to briefly address the point of Iran! The "issue" with Iran is that they are 4th ranking in terms of oil reserves. As a matter of fact, it has always been about oil! It goes back as far as 1909, if not earlier, when Britsish Petroleum (BP) wanted to bet their sticky fingers on it.Posted by ArgusThis is such a disingenuous video lol. That stock pic is showing purchases at 480? It was that low in July. Sooooo? And a bunch of few second clips with maybe not even a full sentence, is not a good showing lol.Posted by WarAngel79Genuine curiosity... whom would you propose as a 3rd party leader? Or which party for that matter?Posted by SoloShhhh, let them think what they want. Most sane people (majority of the US) already know candidates like RFK Jr don't have a shot in hell ever of becoming a leader of a third party that's viable come election time. It needs to be somebody else.Posted by Soullol what
He is the only Democrat ...
click to expand
click to expand
Unrelated to the above comment...
and no, the channel is not republican leaning/affiliated!
click to expand
It's his commentary and then clips into:
"(T)hat America, not China, wins the competition for the 21st century and.."
"(T)o defend our forces and our interests against Iran and Iran-backed terrorists."
"I helped mobilize a global response, over 50 countries, to defend against Putin's aggression."
"I will not cozy up to tyrants and dictators like Kim Jong-Un who are rooting for Trump. Who are rooting for Trump."
We could probably agree that the Israel/Palestine situation is a never-ending war.. that every single Congress has approved since the inception of the war. So it's really a moot point. It happened under Trump, it happened under Biden, it will likely happen under Harris if she wins, it will likely happen under Trump again if he wins.
And I don't see anything wrong with 3 outta 4 of those statements. Lol, the only thing I could have any problem with is Iran stuff (I don't know what the issue is in recent time). I think helping a country defending themselves from being invaded isn't the worst thing. I wouldn't realistically advocate for ever attacking Russia or China or any of that personally for no reason. It's a keep your hands to yourself situation, to me.
click to expand
Even the shit show happening in Palestine is about oil. You can easily check how many drilling licenses has Israel issued since in the last 9-10 months.
Venezuela has suffered similar fate, once again, thanks to having had oil reserves (rumors has it they are depleted now but who knows)
As far as Russia goes, I've already shared a damn near dissertation of stuff few months back so I honestly don't feel like repeating myself.
Congo.... lithium
Etc etc etc...
If the general populace fails to make the connection as to how the imperialistic attitude of the ruling elite is in(directly) effecting us here in the states alone (never mind world at learge) we are in deep shit my dear!
As far as Lockheed Martin stock goes...I wasnt paying attention to his "diagrams". What I do know is that just few days ago, when all other stock plummeted, theirs went up... which in and off itself is quite telling!
US has always, throughout history, manufactured (emphasis on manufactured) enemies out of thin air so as to justify its bottomless greed! Sadest part in all of that, for a country that touts itself as the wealthiest nation in the world ( most certainly not) western as hell have a fuck ton of homeless people.
For as long as they can manipulate us and keep us emotionally charged, divided and fighting against each other, no one else is at fakut for our own demise but ouselfves. i mean that on the global as well as the local scale.
Last but most certainly not least... if you have not done it so far, I suggested reading stuff by Seymor Hersh. Glen Greewald, Aaron Matte, Kim Iverson and few other indipendant journalist! The more you know!!!
click to expand
So this didn't really expand on anything except Iran, potentially. His video didn't really show what it's titled or what he claimed she was saying. Should we let Russia bully Ukraine because we have also done poor things? The topic wasn't about materials. What is bad about what she said in his video? There's nothing there. We know the US is/can be imperialistic. This is nothing new.
If you're gonna propose something as showing what you want, you should probably vet it a bit lol. Or else you run the risk of this situation. I don't have a reason to really believe anything he says because he showed that blatant lie.
Can you show me a way to verify the LMT stock going up when everything else went down? I can't seem to find a way to see it next to other stocks and have their last 5day-7day+ charts percentage change.click to expand
"Should we let Russia bully Ukraine becuasewe have also done poor things?!"
What? What are tou on about?! See, right there tells me how little you really do know about the conflict which is why I am not even going to attempt explaining because a) i do not have the necessary time b)) the desire as Ive already done soo while back as I clearly stated earlier nor c) becuase you drank that cooling and no matter how much actual proof I provide, you would not listen with an open mind.
I am uncertain which part of the video you have an issue with but what I do know is that he told no lie in stating the obious that she is an absolute neocon! Though, to be fair, she is in excellent company on both sides of the isle!
"What is bad about what she said!?" ...you jest surely!
"We know US is/can be imperialistic. This is nothing new" ... so i guess you're OK with it keep on keeping on...same old same old. Right! Got it! 👍
As far as the stock goes, if I have the time I will try and find it for you. Won't be today however!
Posted by ArgusPosted by SoloPosted by ArgusSo this didn't really expand on anything except Iran, potentially. His video didn't really show what it's titled or what he claimed she was saying. Should we let Russia bully Ukraine because we have also done poor things? The topic wasn't about materials. What is bad about what she said in his video? There's nothing there. We know the US is/can be imperialistic. This is nothing new.Posted by SoloI would looove to address soo many points of yours. Unfortunately, I honestly do not know were to begin. Not for the lack of inormation, but the exact opposite! I will, however, try to briefly address the point of Iran! The "issue" with Iran is that they are 4th ranking in terms of oil reserves. As a matter of fact, it has always been about oil! It goes back as far as 1909, if not earlier, when Britsish Petroleum (BP) wanted to bet their sticky fingers on it.Posted by ArgusThis is such a disingenuous video lol. That stock pic is showing purchases at 480? It was that low in July. Sooooo? And a bunch of few second clips with maybe not even a full sentence, is not a good showing lol.Posted by WarAngel79Genuine curiosity... whom would you propose as a 3rd party leader? Or which party for that matter?Posted by SoloShhhh, let them think what they want. Most sane people (majority of the US) already know candidates like RFK Jr don't have a shot in hell ever of becoming a leader of a third party that's viable come election time. It needs to be somebody else.Posted by Soullol what
He is the only Democrat ...
click to expand
click to expand
Unrelated to the above comment...
and no, the channel is not republican leaning/affiliated!
click to expand
It's his commentary and then clips into:
"(T)hat America, not China, wins the competition for the 21st century and.."
"(T)o defend our forces and our interests against Iran and Iran-backed terrorists."
"I helped mobilize a global response, over 50 countries, to defend against Putin's aggression."
"I will not cozy up to tyrants and dictators like Kim Jong-Un who are rooting for Trump. Who are rooting for Trump."
We could probably agree that the Israel/Palestine situation is a never-ending war.. that every single Congress has approved since the inception of the war. So it's really a moot point. It happened under Trump, it happened under Biden, it will likely happen under Harris if she wins, it will likely happen under Trump again if he wins.
And I don't see anything wrong with 3 outta 4 of those statements. Lol, the only thing I could have any problem with is Iran stuff (I don't know what the issue is in recent time). I think helping a country defending themselves from being invaded isn't the worst thing. I wouldn't realistically advocate for ever attacking Russia or China or any of that personally for no reason. It's a keep your hands to yourself situation, to me.
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Even the shit show happening in Palestine is about oil. You can easily check how many drilling licenses has Israel issued since in the last 9-10 months.
Venezuela has suffered similar fate, once again, thanks to having had oil reserves (rumors has it they are depleted now but who knows)
As far as Russia goes, I've already shared a damn near dissertation of stuff few months back so I honestly don't feel like repeating myself.
Congo.... lithium
Etc etc etc...
If the general populace fails to make the connection as to how the imperialistic attitude of the ruling elite is in(directly) effecting us here in the states alone (never mind world at learge) we are in deep shit my dear!
As far as Lockheed Martin stock goes...I wasnt paying attention to his "diagrams". What I do know is that just few days ago, when all other stock plummeted, theirs went up... which in and off itself is quite telling!
US has always, throughout history, manufactured (emphasis on manufactured) enemies out of thin air so as to justify its bottomless greed! Sadest part in all of that, for a country that touts itself as the wealthiest nation in the world ( most certainly not) western as hell have a fuck ton of homeless people.
For as long as they can manipulate us and keep us emotionally charged, divided and fighting against each other, no one else is at fakut for our own demise but ouselfves. i mean that on the global as well as the local scale.
Last but most certainly not least... if you have not done it so far, I suggested reading stuff by Seymor Hersh. Glen Greewald, Aaron Matte, Kim Iverson and few other indipendant journalist! The more you know!!!
click to expand
If you're gonna propose something as showing what you want, you should probably vet it a bit lol. Or else you run the risk of this situation. I don't have a reason to really believe anything he says because he showed that blatant lie.
Can you show me a way to verify the LMT stock going up when everything else went down? I can't seem to find a way to see it next to other stocks and have their last 5day-7day+ charts percentage change.
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"Should we let Russia bully Ukraine becuasewe have also done poor things?!"
What? What are tou on about?! See, right there tells me how little you really do know about the conflict which is why I am not even going to attempt explaining because a) i do not have the necessary time b)) the desire as Ive already done soo while back as I clearly stated earlier nor c) becuase you drank that cooling and no matter how much actual proof I provide, you would not listen with an open mind.
I am uncertain which part of the video you have an issue with but what I do know is that he told no lie in stating the obious that she is an absolute neocon! Though, to be fair, she is in excellent company on both sides of the isle!
"What is bad about what she said!?" ...you jest surely!
"We know US is/can be imperialistic. This is nothing new" ... so i guess you're OK with it keep on keeping on...same old same old. Right! Got it! 👍
As far as the stock goes, if I have the time I will try and find it for you. Won't be today however!click to expand
Maybe I misread, were the congo/lithium and russia things connected in your response? I don't know what, if, things are going on in that way, so I'm asking. That's why my response was what it was but actually wouldn't change anything now that I think about it a little bit more. Not that I really think the US should be world police either. Do you think we should yield it to Ukraine to do on their own vs Russia? Should we try to be friends with Putin and Kim Jong-Un and the like?
He did lie in his representation about the stock. Did you watch the video at all? The clips are literally those small maybe parts of sentences that I quoted. It's titled that she's promised never ending war, is it not? Those 4 quotes do not equate to never ending war lol.
So do you propose isolationism? I'm trying to understand. Is it your opinion that we should basically completely pack up and leave any nation associated/invaded/allied with? What's mostly is confusing me I guess is your view towards the dictators? We should be capitulating to them or ignoring them or what? Because ignoring is not how you prepare for potentials geopolitically.
Me pointing out something about the US doesn't mean that I'm okay with it continuing. That's a lame take lmao.
You're trying to brush me off and accuse me of being closed minded when I'm not. I don't "drink koolaid" I try to deal with facts as much as possible. What sites do YOU use that you think are credible and very light on bias?
Off that topic - How do you feel about RFK probably selling out to Trump?
Posted by ArgusPosted by SoloPosted by ArgusSo this didn't really expand on anything except Iran, potentially. His video didn't really show what it's titled or what he claimed she was saying. Should we let Russia bully Ukraine because we have also done poor things? The topic wasn't about materials. What is bad about what she said in his video? There's nothing there. We know the US is/can be imperialistic. This is nothing new.Posted by SoloI would looove to address soo many points of yours. Unfortunately, I honestly do not know were to begin. Not for the lack of inormation, but the exact opposite! I will, however, try to briefly address the point of Iran! The "issue" with Iran is that they are 4th ranking in terms of oil reserves. As a matter of fact, it has always been about oil! It goes back as far as 1909, if not earlier, when Britsish Petroleum (BP) wanted to bet their sticky fingers on it.Posted by ArgusThis is such a disingenuous video lol. That stock pic is showing purchases at 480? It was that low in July. Sooooo? And a bunch of few second clips with maybe not even a full sentence, is not a good showing lol.Posted by WarAngel79Genuine curiosity... whom would you propose as a 3rd party leader? Or which party for that matter?Posted by SoloShhhh, let them think what they want. Most sane people (majority of the US) already know candidates like RFK Jr don't have a shot in hell ever of becoming a leader of a third party that's viable come election time. It needs to be somebody else.Posted by Soullol what
He is the only Democrat ...
click to expand
click to expand
Unrelated to the above comment...
and no, the channel is not republican leaning/affiliated!
click to expand
It's his commentary and then clips into:
"(T)hat America, not China, wins the competition for the 21st century and.."
"(T)o defend our forces and our interests against Iran and Iran-backed terrorists."
"I helped mobilize a global response, over 50 countries, to defend against Putin's aggression."
"I will not cozy up to tyrants and dictators like Kim Jong-Un who are rooting for Trump. Who are rooting for Trump."
We could probably agree that the Israel/Palestine situation is a never-ending war.. that every single Congress has approved since the inception of the war. So it's really a moot point. It happened under Trump, it happened under Biden, it will likely happen under Harris if she wins, it will likely happen under Trump again if he wins.
And I don't see anything wrong with 3 outta 4 of those statements. Lol, the only thing I could have any problem with is Iran stuff (I don't know what the issue is in recent time). I think helping a country defending themselves from being invaded isn't the worst thing. I wouldn't realistically advocate for ever attacking Russia or China or any of that personally for no reason. It's a keep your hands to yourself situation, to me.
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Even the shit show happening in Palestine is about oil. You can easily check how many drilling licenses has Israel issued since in the last 9-10 months.
Venezuela has suffered similar fate, once again, thanks to having had oil reserves (rumors has it they are depleted now but who knows)
As far as Russia goes, I've already shared a damn near dissertation of stuff few months back so I honestly don't feel like repeating myself.
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If the general populace fails to make the connection as to how the imperialistic attitude of the ruling elite is in(directly) effecting us here in the states alone (never mind world at learge) we are in deep shit my dear!
As far as Lockheed Martin stock goes...I wasnt paying attention to his "diagrams". What I do know is that just few days ago, when all other stock plummeted, theirs went up... which in and off itself is quite telling!
US has always, throughout history, manufactured (emphasis on manufactured) enemies out of thin air so as to justify its bottomless greed! Sadest part in all of that, for a country that touts itself as the wealthiest nation in the world ( most certainly not) western as hell have a fuck ton of homeless people.
For as long as they can manipulate us and keep us emotionally charged, divided and fighting against each other, no one else is at fakut for our own demise but ouselfves. i mean that on the global as well as the local scale.
Last but most certainly not least... if you have not done it so far, I suggested reading stuff by Seymor Hersh. Glen Greewald, Aaron Matte, Kim Iverson and few other indipendant journalist! The more you know!!!
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If you're gonna propose something as showing what you want, you should probably vet it a bit lol. Or else you run the risk of this situation. I don't have a reason to really believe anything he says because he showed that blatant lie.
Can you show me a way to verify the LMT stock going up when everything else went down? I can't seem to find a way to see it next to other stocks and have their last 5day-7day+ charts percentage change.
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"Should we let Russia bully Ukraine becuasewe have also done poor things?!"
What? What are tou on about?! See, right there tells me how little you really do know about the conflict which is why I am not even going to attempt explaining because a) i do not have the necessary time b)) the desire as Ive already done soo while back as I clearly stated earlier nor c) becuase you drank that cooling and no matter how much actual proof I provide, you would not listen with an open mind.
I am uncertain which part of the video you have an issue with but what I do know is that he told no lie in stating the obious that she is an absolute neocon! Though, to be fair, she is in excellent company on both sides of the isle!
"What is bad about what she said!?" ...you jest surely!
"We know US is/can be imperialistic. This is nothing new" ... so i guess you're OK with it keep on keeping on...same old same old. Right! Got it! 👍
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and no I don't jest about asking what she said is bad in that video unless you're gonna say world police stuff in which case I ask you what do you think the REALISTIC outcome of doing that is, backing out from everything?
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There is nobody who will vote for Kamala who wasn't going to vote for whomever the Democrats told them to. They're called Yellow Dog Democrats for a reason. I was once one of them, I understand. No facts, failures, or falsehoods will sway them at this point.
And to be fair conservatives have those people as well. I just find Democrats tend to eat their party's bullshit like they're at a mukbang without any further thought.
And your thoughts about J6 are?
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We need a 3rd party very very badly.
Our problems can't be fixed by voting.
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A course it can. It's not a "I think" or " I believe"
It's part of the game those asshats are playing to remain seemingly legitimate. In a essence, a critical part of the game. All relationships are 2 way streets.
In this case, a 3rd party will trigger competition for said votes, influence, and money. A 3rd party would disrupt the current game. They will actually have to do something in order to maintain thier standing. Enough people ignore the drama/propaganda to dismiss the usual bullshit and they will have to adapt.
So yes voting is still part of the game. Otherwise they would be putting so much effort and money to manipulate people into voting for them and thier bullshit👍
Posted by HadMatterPosted by SoloPosted by HadMatterAnd your thoughts about J6 are?
There is nobody who will vote for Kamala who wasn't going to vote for whomever the Democrats told them to. They're called Yellow Dog Democrats for a reason. I was once one of them, I understand. No facts, failures, or falsehoods will sway them at this point.
And to be fair conservatives have those people as well. I just find Democrats tend to eat their party's bullshit like they're at a mukbang without any further thought.
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As someone who didn't vote in neither 16 or 20, I would say my thoughts are that was the first of many boiling over points that are to come that will eventually lead us into a full on physical civil war. I think the uprisings you've seen around the world after the US meddlles in foreign political affairs is coming home to roost. I think the same tactics we've used abroad have been used domestically to keep the same power structure over a long period of time. I think McConnell started the tit for tat with Obama, who was a first for the power structure, though politically mild. The Trump who was an outsider got the wrath af the status quo. I think Kamala is an empty vessel that the status quo can use, just like what Biden stated he would be. I mean look at the Democrats this year just steamrolling over any kind of democracy, alienating and changing the rules on a lifelong Democrat and member of iconic democratic family RFK. They fucked over both Biden and RFK to make sure they stayed in power.
I think that just like the US in foreign territories, of the power structure can't appoint and maintain power, there's going to be war. I don't know how much news you watch from around the world, but there's a storm brewing all across the globe, and the storm isn't necessarily because of any leader, it's because of ideas, the ideas are the illness, the leaders are the symptoms.
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Do you think January 6th was the result of Trump's constant lies about widespread voter fraud? Do you think him and his ilk are complicit in it?
I'm gonna try to respond to the bets of my abilities but I'm sure I'll fail because I do indeed have a kitchen renovation & tile laying on my hands as we speak which is why I do not have time to engage in a debate to the extend that I would like to. "Brushing of part" comes in part becuase you insist I clarify my views but you failed to afford me the same yesterday when I asked about DNC primaries (or the lack there of) and who actually voted for Kamala in said primaries?
As far as credible sites goes, I don't know one single one I would trust unequivocally 100% but I already provided quite a few names of indipendant (award wining) journalist in my previous post.
As for your question wether I belive we should be isolationist counrty? Absolutely not! I'm not even sure how you arrived at that conclusion based on what I was saying. What I *am* saying is that the US should cease and desist meddling in other coutries' business for starters. And perhaps, instead of flexing our military biceps, we should deploy more diplomacy. But we know that's a pipe dream becuase we know the most fundamental pillar of our economy IS/are in fact war(s). It's been like that since the ww2.
Example, CIA and MI6 created ISIS, funded ISIS to do our bidding but when it no longer suited our agenda, we made monsters out of them. Which goes back to what I was saying in my earlier posts where the US "manufactures" circumstances & enemies becuase every hero needs a villan, no?
On the subject of dictators, I'm not saying we have to be their bed fellows but we also need not constantly "police" the whole damn world, no? I guess we agree on as much. So the whole "should we capitulate to the dictators" is rather moot point when you realize that much, if not all, of that threat is fake news. 🙄
As for Russia Ukraine, I do hope you are aware that the two countries were on a verge of signing two peace treaties by now. Both times, US stepped in and subverted all peace efforts? Much like we do during security council meeting at the UN regarding Israel/Gaza sittuation. Were you aware that the crap was going on since 2014 in the Donbas region?
Did you know that Putin had nothing to do with blowing up the pipe line (you can begin to imagine who did) Also, did you know that Ukraine and Russia were jussst fine & dandy up until Zelensky came to power? If and when you do do the research on that subject matter, do look into how he came to power! Were you aware that when UUUSR fell appart, there was a "promise" US won't advance NATO closer to Russias borders? I say that with fair certanity because I'm old enough to remember that part of history! Yet here we are, literally knocking on their front door meanwhile, villy nilly ceasing billions of dollars worth of Russiann assets on the hush hush.
Are you also aware that Von Der Leyen (yet another figure whom no one elected) threatened Hungry with sanctions should they continue having civil relations with Russia!? Why?!
But sure, let's label all those who do not bend thir knee to US/western interests as dictators and savages! That way its easier to sell NEVER ENDING WARS! One giant money laundering, racketeering scheme!
With regards to the stock, once again, I don't know if he was right or wrong but that really doesn't change the fact that what she said IS in fact double talk in favor of wars. For crying out loud, we are set to send an additional 3.5 billion in foreign aid to Israel. Meanwhile, look at the street of Salt Lake City, Portland, beaches of Hawaii, and the list goes on!!!
No country in the world has been involved in more wars than the US!
Congo was not in regard to Russia but the fact how US has and continues to drain resources from countries 'across the globe. Create wars so that way its easier to syphone their resources for a penny on a dollar! Actually, you needn't go any further than Hawaii and Purto Rico. Ask native Hwaiian how they fell about Dole company or the US government for that matter!
I'm sure I'm forgetting sooo soo much, alas them and my focus are limited!
RFK.... *rolls eyes* to be fair, I can agree on many of his policies but there are some I just cannot!!!! Also, he is the embodiment of establishment soooo ... 💨💨💨
Posted by SoloPosted by ArgusPosted by Solo"Should we let Russia bully Ukraine becuasewe have also done poor things?!"Posted by ArgusSo this didn't really expand on anything except Iran, potentially. His video didn't really show what it's titled or what he claimed she was saying. Should we let Russia bully Ukraine because we have also done poor things? The topic wasn't about materials. What is bad about what she said in his video? There's nothing there. We know the US is/can be imperialistic. This is nothing new.Posted by SoloI would looove to address soo many points of yours. Unfortunately, I honestly do not know were to begin. Not for the lack of inormation, but the exact opposite! I will, however, try to briefly address the point of Iran! The "issue" with Iran is that they are 4th ranking in terms of oil reserves. As a matter of fact, it has always been about oil! It goes back as far as 1909, if not earlier, when Britsish Petroleum (BP) wanted to bet their sticky fingers on it.Posted by ArgusThis is such a disingenuous video lol. That stock pic is showing purchases at 480? It was that low in July. Sooooo? And a bunch of few second clips with maybe not even a full sentence, is not a good showing lol.Posted by WarAngel79Genuine curiosity... whom would you propose as a 3rd party leader? Or which party for that matter?Posted by SoloShhhh, let them think what they want. Most sane people (majority of the US) already know candidates like RFK Jr don't have a shot in hell ever of becoming a leader of a third party that's viable come election time. It needs to be somebody else.Posted by Soullol what
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It's his commentary and then clips into:
"(T)hat America, not China, wins the competition for the 21st century and.."
"(T)o defend our forces and our interests against Iran and Iran-backed terrorists."
"I helped mobilize a global response, over 50 countries, to defend against Putin's aggression."
"I will not cozy up to tyrants and dictators like Kim Jong-Un who are rooting for Trump. Who are rooting for Trump."
We could probably agree that the Israel/Palestine situation is a never-ending war.. that every single Congress has approved since the inception of the war. So it's really a moot point. It happened under Trump, it happened under Biden, it will likely happen under Harris if she wins, it will likely happen under Trump again if he wins.
And I don't see anything wrong with 3 outta 4 of those statements. Lol, the only thing I could have any problem with is Iran stuff (I don't know what the issue is in recent time). I think helping a country defending themselves from being invaded isn't the worst thing. I wouldn't realistically advocate for ever attacking Russia or China or any of that personally for no reason. It's a keep your hands to yourself situation, to me.
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Even the shit show happening in Palestine is about oil. You can easily check how many drilling licenses has Israel issued since in the last 9-10 months.
Venezuela has suffered similar fate, once again, thanks to having had oil reserves (rumors has it they are depleted now but who knows)
As far as Russia goes, I've already shared a damn near dissertation of stuff few months back so I honestly don't feel like repeating myself.
Congo.... lithium
Etc etc etc...
If the general populace fails to make the connection as to how the imperialistic attitude of the ruling elite is in(directly) effecting us here in the states alone (never mind world at learge) we are in deep shit my dear!
As far as Lockheed Martin stock goes...I wasnt paying attention to his "diagrams". What I do know is that just few days ago, when all other stock plummeted, theirs went up... which in and off itself is quite telling!
US has always, throughout history, manufactured (emphasis on manufactured) enemies out of thin air so as to justify its bottomless greed! Sadest part in all of that, for a country that touts itself as the wealthiest nation in the world ( most certainly not) western as hell have a fuck ton of homeless people.
For as long as they can manipulate us and keep us emotionally charged, divided and fighting against each other, no one else is at fakut for our own demise but ouselfves. i mean that on the global as well as the local scale.
Last but most certainly not least... if you have not done it so far, I suggested reading stuff by Seymor Hersh. Glen Greewald, Aaron Matte, Kim Iverson and few other indipendant journalist! The more you know!!!
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If you're gonna propose something as showing what you want, you should probably vet it a bit lol. Or else you run the risk of this situation. I don't have a reason to really believe anything he says because he showed that blatant lie.
Can you show me a way to verify the LMT stock going up when everything else went down? I can't seem to find a way to see it next to other stocks and have their last 5day-7day+ charts percentage change.
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What? What are tou on about?! See, right there tells me how little you really do know about the conflict which is why I am not even going to attempt explaining because a) i do not have the necessary time b)) the desire as Ive already done soo while back as I clearly stated earlier nor c) becuase you drank that cooling and no matter how much actual proof I provide, you would not listen with an open mind.
I am uncertain which part of the video you have an issue with but what I do know is that he told no lie in stating the obious that she is an absolute neocon! Though, to be fair, she is in excellent company on both sides of the isle!
"What is bad about what she said!?" ...you jest surely!
"We know US is/can be imperialistic. This is nothing new" ... so i guess you're OK with it keep on keeping on...same old same old. Right! Got it! 👍
As far as the stock goes, if I have the time I will try and find it for you. Won't be today however!
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Are you saying our international policies overthe decades dug us into shit hole sooo deep that ceasing military activities, overthrowing gornements etcetc would land us in hot water. Perhaps! But the opposite is also .i,e.y!
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I truly feel anyone who can not only pick a side, but thinks their side is right, and the other side is completely wrong, is delusional. It's a real sign that a person can't be trusted. They lack the ability to be a free thinker, and a person that can't make good decisions. Other than blindly following corruption. Again, it's because those type of people are delusional, and completely untrustworthy.
Posted by SoulPosted by SoloPosted by SoulIndependent U.S. presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. wants a deal with Donald Trump in which he endorses the Republican rival in exchange for a job in a potential Trump administration, a super PAC supporting Kennedy told Reuters on Wednesday.Posted by SoloYea.Posted by Soullol what
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I truly feel anyone who can not only pick a side, but thinks their side is right, and the other side is completely wrong, is delusional. It's a real sign that a person can't be trusted. They lack the ability to be a free thinker, and a person that can't make good decisions. Other than blindly following corruption. Again, it's because those type of people are delusional, and completely untrustworthy.click to expand
I don't understand this in relation to what I posted
Also, real quick, with all due respect, the reason why I said “you drank the koolaid” is because you keep repeating the same divisive narrative (dictators comment in particular) you’ve been fed by the main stream media. Yes that includes newspapers and magazines as well as movies and entertainment at large.
I mentioned this before in my exchange with someone else… just look into Pantagons budget size for movies. Marvel movies alone… it’s mind boggling!
Anyway, I better finally drag my ass out of here!
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Also, real quick, with all due respect, the reason why I said “you drank the koolaid” is because you keep repeating the same divisive narrative (dictators comment in particular) you’ve been fed by the main stream media. Yes that includes newspapers and magazines as well as movies and entertainment at large.
I mentioned this before in my exchange with someone else… just look into Pantagons budget size for movies. Marvel movies alone… it’s mind boggling!
Anyway, I better finally drag my ass out of here!
"Brushing of part" comes in part becuase you insist I clarify my views but you failed to afford me the same yesterday when I asked about DNC primaries (or the lack there of) and who actually voted for Kamala in said primaries? ----- isn't that technically what they did? Delegates picked Harris officially for the Democratic Party, no? That's what they do there, no? +++++And just to add onto this to the people who say that the Dems steamrolled democracy (I know @hadmatter just did in a comment before) and shit like that. Wasn't it that people wanted Biden to drop out? People didn't want two old candidates, and now the Dems have a younger one and people are for it. The people that mostly seem mad about it or feel like democracy has been attacked seems by that seems to be Trump voters?.. But January 6th was not an attack on democracy? Lol..
As far as credible sites goes, I don't know one single one I would trust unequivocally 100% but I already provided quite a few names of indipendant (award wining) journalist in my previous post. ----- Do you trust Reuters? Do you trust APNews? Do you trust those journalists unequivocally? Can they ever get stuff wrong? Do they?
I'm not even sure how you arrived at that conclusion based on what I was saying. What I *am* saying is that the US should cease and desist meddling in other coutries' business for starters. -- Are you saying our international policies overthe decades dug us into shit hole sooo deep that ceasing military activities, overthrowing gornements etcetc would land us in hot water. Perhaps! But the opposite is also .i,e.y! (I can't make out the typo, money?) ----- Again, realistically what do you think happens if we pull out? Do other countries matter? What would be your ideal relationship with other countries?
As for Russia Ukraine, I do hope you are aware that the two countries were on a verge of signing two peace treaties by now. Both times, US stepped in and subverted all peace efforts? Much like we do during security council meeting at the UN regarding Israel/Gaza sittuation. Were you aware that the crap was going on since 2014 in the Donbas region? ----- I just read up on one quickly and it seems that Russia basically wanted Ukraine to become a vassal state? I don't necessarily know what Ukraine wants, but that's funny from the outside looking in, what Russia wanted. I remember hearing about Donbas.
Did you know that Putin had nothing to do with blowing up the pipe line (you can begin to imagine who did) Also, did you know that Ukraine and Russia were jussst fine & dandy up until Zelensky came to power? If and when you do do the research on that subject matter, do look into how he came to power! Were you aware that when UUUSR fell appart, there was a "promise" US won't advance NATO closer to Russias borders? I say that with fair certanity because I'm old enough to remember that part of history! Yet here we are, literally knocking on their front door meanwhile, villy nilly ceasing billions of dollars worth of Russiann assets on the hush hush. ----- Sooo, I hate these kinds of things. I didn't bring up the pipeline at all lol. With regards to Russia being fine until Zelenskyy, do you think there's any possibility that Putin waited until Trump was out of office? Zelenskyy won a runoff vote? Are you talking about this NATO claim, https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/feb/28/candace-owens/fact-checking-claims-nato-us-broke-agreement-again/ ?
Are you also aware that Von Der Leyen (yet another figure whom no one elected) threatened Hungry with sanctions should they continue having civil relations with Russia!? Why?! ----- no but again not on the topic of what we were talking about really which were specific claims made in a video YOU linked to lol. I'm even answering things that aren't in the video but I'm not gonna do it every single time lol.
But sure, let's label all those who do not bend thir knee to US/western interests as dictators and savages! That way its easier to sell NEVER ENDING WARS! One giant money laundering, racketeering scheme! ----- Do we let other countries get attacked and just hope that it never comes to us? Again, I don't like the world police view either, but do we let places get attacked and hope it never comes around? What do you think we should do? Do we defend others attacked if we end up being attacked ourselves? Which then would lead to alliances again undoubtedly and we'd find ourselves in the same situation basically? Idk.
With regards to the stock, once again, I don't know if he was right or wrong but that really doesn't change the fact that what she said IS in fact double talk in favor of wars. For crying out loud, we are set to send an additional 3.5 billion in foreign aid to Israel. Meanwhile, look at the street of Salt Lake City, Portland, beaches of Hawaii, and the list goes on!!! ----- Stop this. It DOES matter. He deliberately posted a fucking lie. IT MATTERS. Okay and who makes the budget? Congress, fam. And it hasn't stopped yet since the inception after WW2. So it's a moot point, once again. And again you can say I'm for it, which is bullshit, but you're not acknowledging that it literally doesn't matter either way with regards to sending money. Anyone who wins is gonna be "the administration of supporting Israel and genocide." And holy shit do I agree that we should be putting more money into ourselves. Which is why it's cool that the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act was passed.
RFK.... *rolls eyes* to be fair, I can agree on many of his policies but there are some I just cannot!!!! Also, he is the embodiment of establishment soooo ----- but how do you feel about him probably selling out to Trump because Harris wouldn't acknowledge him? Doesn't that look corrupt? I'll say whatever you want me to as long as you give me a job?
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divisive narrative? most of my narrative is that J6 is disqualifying, I really don't even need to argue past that. At all.
It's been known (at least to myself for a while now), that Military likes to have input/control over their image in movies. They also have potential to change the script etc.
Posted by HadMatterPosted by SoloPosted by HadMatterDo you think January 6th was the result of Trump's constant lies about widespread voter fraud? Do you think him and his ilk are complicit in it?Posted by SoloAs someone who didn't vote in neither 16 or 20, I would say my thoughts are that was the first of many boiling over points that are to come that will eventually lead us into a full on physical civil war. I think the uprisings you've seen around the world after the US meddlles in foreign political affairs is coming home to roost. I think the same tactics we've used abroad have been used domestically to keep the same power structure over a long period of time. I think McConnell started the tit for tat with Obama, who was a first for the power structure, though politically mild. The Trump who was an outsider got the wrath af the status quo. I think Kamala is an empty vessel that the status quo can use, just like what Biden stated he would be. I mean look at the Democrats this year just steamrolling over any kind of democracy, alienating and changing the rules on a lifelong Democrat and member of iconic democratic family RFK. They fucked over both Biden and RFK to make sure they stayed in power.Posted by HadMatterAnd your thoughts about J6 are?
There is nobody who will vote for Kamala who wasn't going to vote for whomever the Democrats told them to. They're called Yellow Dog Democrats for a reason. I was once one of them, I understand. No facts, failures, or falsehoods will sway them at this point.
And to be fair conservatives have those people as well. I just find Democrats tend to eat their party's bullshit like they're at a mukbang without any further thought.
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I think that just like the US in foreign territories, of the power structure can't appoint and maintain power, there's going to be war. I don't know how much news you watch from around the world, but there's a storm brewing all across the globe, and the storm isn't necessarily because of any leader, it's because of ideas, the ideas are the illness, the leaders are the symptoms.
But like I said, I didn't and won't be voting this year vote, so I don't get a say..
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Like I said, I think it's a boiling over point that was the culmination of voter fraud done by the left under the guise of a misinformation campaign during the election period that got most conservatives removed from social media. Yet, somehow was later proven correct after some time has passed - Hunter's Laptop anyone? Or Russian Collusion bullshit that was later proven to be a sham put on by Hillary and her attorney. Just prior to the election we had bounty gate. The whole Jussie Smullett Bullshit. The list goes on and on. Trump lies about his crowd size. Democrats lie about Golden Shower tapes in a Russian Hotel. The constant attack on people's character based on absolute lies is eventually going to cause some people to Crack.
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Can you prove your voter fraud claims because it seems like literally everything else out there disagrees with you on that lol.
"For example, after the 2020 election, a months’-long analysis by the AP found fewer than 475 cases of potential voter fraud in the six battleground states challenged by Trump (here). For context, there were over 3.3 million votes casted for the presidential run in Arizona alone, the state AP found had the highest number of potential fraud cases (198) ( here ). The AP also found no signs of a coordinated effort and reported that “virtually every case was based on an individual acting alone to cast additional ballots.”
https://www.reuters.com/article/fact-check/re-examining-how-and-why-voter-fraud-is-exceedingly-rare-in-the-us-ahead-of-th-idUSL1N2XP2AI/
Posted by SoloPosted by SoulPosted by SoloI truly feel anyone who can not only pick a side, but thinks their side is right, and the other side is completely wrong, is delusional. It's a real sign that a person can't be trusted. They lack the ability to be a free thinker, and a person that can't make good decisions. Other than blindly following corruption. Again, it's because those type of people are delusional, and completely untrustworthy.Posted by SoulIndependent U.S. presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. wants a deal with Donald Trump in which he endorses the Republican rival in exchange for a job in a potential Trump administration, a super PAC supporting Kennedy told Reuters on Wednesday.Posted by SoloYea.Posted by Soullol what
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Posted by HadMatterPosted by SoloPosted by Argus"Brushing of part" comes in part becuase you insist I clarify my views but you failed to afford me the same yesterday when I asked about DNC primaries (or the lack there of) and who actually voted for Kamala in said primaries? ----- isn't that technically what they did? Delegates picked Harris officially for the Democratic Party, no? That's what they do there, no? +++++And just to add onto this to the people who say that the Dems steamrolled democracy (I know @hadmatter just did in a comment before) and shit like that. Wasn't it that people wanted Biden to drop out? People didn't want two old candidates, and now the Dems have a younger one and people are for it. The people that mostly seem mad about it or feel like democracy has been attacked seems by that seems to be Trump voters?.. But January 6th was not an attack on democracy? Lol..
Also, real quick, with all due respect, the reason why I said “you drank the koolaid” is because you keep repeating the same divisive narrative (dictators comment in particular) you’ve been fed by the main stream media. Yes that includes newspapers and magazines as well as movies and entertainment at large.
I mentioned this before in my exchange with someone else… just look into Pantagons budget size for movies. Marvel movies alone… it’s mind boggling!
Anyway, I better finally drag my ass out of here!
As far as credible sites goes, I don't know one single one I would trust unequivocally 100% but I already provided quite a few names of indipendant (award wining) journalist in my previous post. ----- Do you trust Reuters? Do you trust APNews? Do you trust those journalists unequivocally? Can they ever get stuff wrong? Do they?
I'm not even sure how you arrived at that conclusion based on what I was saying. What I *am* saying is that the US should cease and desist meddling in other coutries' business for starters. -- Are you saying our international policies overthe decades dug us into shit hole sooo deep that ceasing military activities, overthrowing gornements etcetc would land us in hot water. Perhaps! But the opposite is also .i,e.y! (I can't make out the typo, money?) ----- Again, realistically what do you think happens if we pull out? Do other countries matter? What would be your ideal relationship with other countries?
As for Russia Ukraine, I do hope you are aware that the two countries were on a verge of signing two peace treaties by now. Both times, US stepped in and subverted all peace efforts? Much like we do during security council meeting at the UN regarding Israel/Gaza sittuation. Were you aware that the crap was going on since 2014 in the Donbas region? ----- I just read up on one quickly and it seems that Russia basically wanted Ukraine to become a vassal state? I don't necessarily know what Ukraine wants, but that's funny from the outside looking in, what Russia wanted. I remember hearing about Donbas.
Did you know that Putin had nothing to do with blowing up the pipe line (you can begin to imagine who did) Also, did you know that Ukraine and Russia were jussst fine & dandy up until Zelensky came to power? If and when you do do the research on that subject matter, do look into how he came to power! Were you aware that when UUUSR fell appart, there was a "promise" US won't advance NATO closer to Russias borders? I say that with fair certanity because I'm old enough to remember that part of history! Yet here we are, literally knocking on their front door meanwhile, villy nilly ceasing billions of dollars worth of Russiann assets on the hush hush. ----- Sooo, I hate these kinds of things. I didn't bring up the pipeline at all lol. With regards to Russia being fine until Zelenskyy, do you think there's any possibility that Putin waited until Trump was out of office? Zelenskyy won a runoff vote? Are you talking about this NATO claim, https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/feb/28/candace-owens/fact-checking-claims-nato-us-broke-agreement-again/ ?
Are you also aware that Von Der Leyen (yet another figure whom no one elected) threatened Hungry with sanctions should they continue having civil relations with Russia!? Why?! ----- no but again not on the topic of what we were talking about really which were specific claims made in a video YOU linked to lol. I'm even answering things that aren't in the video but I'm not gonna do it every single time lol.
But sure, let's label all those who do not bend thir knee to US/western interests as dictators and savages! That way its easier to sell NEVER ENDING WARS! One giant money laundering, racketeering scheme! ----- Do we let other countries get attacked and just hope that it never comes to us? Again, I don't like the world police view either, but do we let places get attacked and hope it never comes around? What do you think we should do? Do we defend others attacked if we end up being attacked ourselves? Which then would lead to alliances again undoubtedly and we'd find ourselves in the same situation basically? Idk.
With regards to the stock, once again, I don't know if he was right or wrong but that really doesn't change the fact that what she said IS in fact double talk in favor of wars. For crying out loud, we are set to send an additional 3.5 billion in foreign aid to Israel. Meanwhile, look at the street of Salt Lake City, Portland, beaches of Hawaii, and the list goes on!!! ----- Stop this. It DOES matter. He deliberately posted a fucking lie. IT MATTERS. Okay and who makes the budget? Congress, fam. And it hasn't stopped yet since the inception after WW2. So it's a moot point, once again. And again you can say I'm for it, which is bullshit, but you're not acknowledging that it literally doesn't matter either way with regards to sending money. Anyone who wins is gonna be "the administration of supporting Israel and genocide." And holy shit do I agree that we should be putting more money into ourselves. Which is why it's cool that the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act was passed.
RFK.... *rolls eyes* to be fair, I can agree on many of his policies but there are some I just cannot!!!! Also, he is the embodiment of establishment soooo ----- but how do you feel about him probably selling out to Trump because Harris wouldn't acknowledge him? Doesn't that look corrupt? I'll say whatever you want me to as long as you give me a job?
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divisive narrative? most of my narrative is that J6 is disqualifying, I really don't even need to argue past that. At all.
It's been known (at least to myself for a while now), that Military likes to have input/control over their image in movies. They also have potential to change the script etc.
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My comment of the Dems steamrolling stem from them not allowing anyone to run against Biden. RFK is a Democrat who tried to run as a Democrat. Elizabeth Warren mentioned running. But the Dems wouldn't allow it and appointed Biden. Then when Biden was behind, they pulled him and appointed Kamala. There was no democratic process in the democratic primary. It doesn't matter what intentions you try to assign to who, Kamala was appointed, amd the Dems refused to hold an open primary. It's that simple.
But also, they denied, denied, denied Biden was to old and senile to be president. So they gaslit everyone until they couldn't anymore after the debates.click to expand
I agree with the gaslighting basically on the elderly. BUT even in that situation I would still prefer Biden as he didn't attack Democracy or have people lined up to make it a "christian nation." I don't think anyone who was even slightly paying attention wanted RFK to be with Dems after hearing the antivax shit but that's besides the point if there was any little warring going on. Appointed Kamala? Again, isn't the choice made at the DNC for the party by their delegates?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries ----- am I misunderstanding this? Dean Phillips and Jason Palmer were challengers?
Posted by SoulPosted by SoloPosted by SoulI don't understand this in relation to what I postedPosted by SoloI truly feel anyone who can not only pick a side, but thinks their side is right, and the other side is completely wrong, is delusional. It's a real sign that a person can't be trusted. They lack the ability to be a free thinker, and a person that can't make good decisions. Other than blindly following corruption. Again, it's because those type of people are delusional, and completely untrustworthy.Posted by SoulIndependent U.S. presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. wants a deal with Donald Trump in which he endorses the Republican rival in exchange for a job in a potential Trump administration, a super PAC supporting Kennedy told Reuters on Wednesday.Posted by SoloYea.Posted by Soullol what
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Does it? Because what I posted was corruption, wasn't it? You can buy my endorsement? The only one you said that you'd endorse supposedly openly sold his endorsement for a job. "Free thinker"
Posted by SoloPosted by SoulPosted by SoloThat doesn't surprise me tbh.Posted by SoulI don't understand this in relation to what I postedPosted by SoloI truly feel anyone who can not only pick a side, but thinks their side is right, and the other side is completely wrong, is delusional. It's a real sign that a person can't be trusted. They lack the ability to be a free thinker, and a person that can't make good decisions. Other than blindly following corruption. Again, it's because those type of people are delusional, and completely untrustworthy.Posted by SoulIndependent U.S. presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. wants a deal with Donald Trump in which he endorses the Republican rival in exchange for a job in a potential Trump administration, a super PAC supporting Kennedy told Reuters on Wednesday.Posted by SoloYea.Posted by Soullol what
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Does it? Because what I posted was corruption, wasn't it? You can buy my endorsement? The only one you said that you'd endorse supposedly openly sold his endorsement for a job. "Free thinker"click to expand
No, I actually agree with you. I just find it hard to not throw bait out there in these types of threads. I've been doing it the entire decade I've been here.
Posted by SoulPosted by SoloPosted by SoulDoes it? Because what I posted was corruption, wasn't it? You can buy my endorsement? The only one you said that you'd endorse supposedly openly sold his endorsement for a job. "Free thinker"Posted by SoloThat doesn't surprise me tbh.Posted by SoulI don't understand this in relation to what I postedPosted by SoloI truly feel anyone who can not only pick a side, but thinks their side is right, and the other side is completely wrong, is delusional. It's a real sign that a person can't be trusted. They lack the ability to be a free thinker, and a person that can't make good decisions. Other than blindly following corruption. Again, it's because those type of people are delusional, and completely untrustworthy.Posted by SoulIndependent U.S. presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. wants a deal with Donald Trump in which he endorses the Republican rival in exchange for a job in a potential Trump administration, a super PAC supporting Kennedy told Reuters on Wednesday.Posted by SoloYea.Posted by Soullol what
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No, I actually agree with you. I just find it hard to not throw bait out there in these types of threads. I've been doing it the entire decade I've been here.click to expand
I must be a masochist because I know better but still always engage lol
Posted by SoloPosted by SoulPosted by SoloNo, I actually agree with you. I just find it hard to not throw bait out there in these types of threads. I've been doing it the entire decade I've been here.Posted by SoulDoes it? Because what I posted was corruption, wasn't it? You can buy my endorsement? The only one you said that you'd endorse supposedly openly sold his endorsement for a job. "Free thinker"Posted by SoloThat doesn't surprise me tbh.Posted by SoulI don't understand this in relation to what I postedPosted by SoloI truly feel anyone who can not only pick a side, but thinks their side is right, and the other side is completely wrong, is delusional. It's a real sign that a person can't be trusted. They lack the ability to be a free thinker, and a person that can't make good decisions. Other than blindly following corruption. Again, it's because those type of people are delusional, and completely untrustworthy.Posted by SoulIndependent U.S. presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. wants a deal with Donald Trump in which he endorses the Republican rival in exchange for a job in a potential Trump administration, a super PAC supporting Kennedy told Reuters on Wednesday.Posted by SoloYea.Posted by Soullol what
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I must be a masochist because I know better but still always engage lolclick to expand
I use to be much more intense about it too. I actually like you as an online persona, and don't really enjoy trolling people I like. You could feel totally indifferent about me too, I just like the way you think, and feel you aren't malicious. You just want a good logical debate, which God knows I can't give you when it comes to politics lmao!
He’s an anti covid jabber
And conspiracy theorist (well conspiracy being the misleading word when the theories come true)
He’d blow the whole system apart
Make him President 😂
Cap sun/Cap, Sun, Earth Dom
Intuitive and grounded
Perfect leadership material.
And conspiracy theorist (well conspiracy being the misleading word when the theories come true)
He’d blow the whole system apart
Make him President 😂
Cap sun/Cap, Sun, Earth Dom
Intuitive and grounded
Perfect leadership material.
@hadmatter What do you think about the current economy, inflation, and immigration? And why is Kamala waiting to be elected as president, and not working to implement her policies now as Vice President? Weren't the jobs report found to be a lie recently, also? Not less than projected, an all out lie that was revised. Let's just throw that on the pile of Bullshit at the mukbang.
https://fortune.com/2024/08/21/job-growth-negative-revision-bls-investor-reaction/
Economy is kinda fucked due to corporate greed (who controls their prices? They do.), inflation rates are nearer to where they've been in the past, and with regards to immigration what are you talking about? Illegal immigrants, refugees, asylum seekers, what?
Lmao what powers do you think the Vice President has? You're aware that Congress passes shit, right?
I can't read your fortune link as I'm either not signed up or subscribed.
https://fortune.com/2024/08/21/job-growth-negative-revision-bls-investor-reaction/
Economy is kinda fucked due to corporate greed (who controls their prices? They do.), inflation rates are nearer to where they've been in the past, and with regards to immigration what are you talking about? Illegal immigrants, refugees, asylum seekers, what?
Lmao what powers do you think the Vice President has? You're aware that Congress passes shit, right?
I can't read your fortune link as I'm either not signed up or subscribed.
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He’s an anti covid jabber
And conspiracy theorist (well conspiracy being the misleading word when the theories come true)
He’d blow the whole system apart
Make him President 😂
Cap sun/Cap, Sun, Earth Dom
Intuitive and grounded
Perfect leadership material.
He supposedly sold his endorsement for a job. He's corrupt just like everyone claims everyone else is. He's not perfect leadership material in the slightest.
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He’s an anti covid jabber
And conspiracy theorist (well conspiracy being the misleading word when the theories come true)
He’d blow the whole system apart
Make him President 😂
Cap sun/Cap, Sun, Earth Dom
Intuitive and grounded
Perfect leadership material.
He supposedly sold his endorsement for a job. He's corrupt just like everyone claims everyone else is. He's not perfect leadership material in the slightest.click to expand
All of them are corrupt, you have to be in that job 🥴😬
Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by SoloPosted by MyStarsShineHe supposedly sold his endorsement for a job. He's corrupt just like everyone claims everyone else is. He's not perfect leadership material in the slightest.
He’s an anti covid jabber
And conspiracy theorist (well conspiracy being the misleading word when the theories come true)
He’d blow the whole system apart
Make him President 😂
Cap sun/Cap, Sun, Earth Dom
Intuitive and grounded
Perfect leadership material.
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All of them are corrupt, you have to be in that job 🥴😬click to expand
sure. then i'll swap to anti science, no thanks. plus, isn't corruption typically viewed as a disqualifier? I mean, you're not in our system so it doesn't matter anyway, but if you were here would you be one of the people that says you're not voting for trump or harris because they're corrupt?
Posted by SoloPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by SoloAll of them are corrupt, you have to be in that job 🥴😬Posted by MyStarsShineHe supposedly sold his endorsement for a job. He's corrupt just like everyone claims everyone else is. He's not perfect leadership material in the slightest.
He’s an anti covid jabber
And conspiracy theorist (well conspiracy being the misleading word when the theories come true)
He’d blow the whole system apart
Make him President 😂
Cap sun/Cap, Sun, Earth Dom
Intuitive and grounded
Perfect leadership material.
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sure. then i'll swap to anti science, no thanks. plus, isn't corruption typically viewed as a disqualifier? I mean, you're not in our system so it doesn't matter anyway, but if you were here would you be one of the people that says you're not voting for trump or harris because they're corrupt?click to expand
I wouldn’t vote as they’re all a waste of space
Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by SoloPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by SoloAll of them are corrupt, you have to be in that job 🥴😬Posted by MyStarsShineHe supposedly sold his endorsement for a job. He's corrupt just like everyone claims everyone else is. He's not perfect leadership material in the slightest.
He’s an anti covid jabber
And conspiracy theorist (well conspiracy being the misleading word when the theories come true)
He’d blow the whole system apart
Make him President 😂
Cap sun/Cap, Sun, Earth Dom
Intuitive and grounded
Perfect leadership material.
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sure. then i'll swap to anti science, no thanks. plus, isn't corruption typically viewed as a disqualifier? I mean, you're not in our system so it doesn't matter anyway, but if you were here would you be one of the people that says you're not voting for trump or harris because they're corrupt?
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Okay, as long as it's consistent. Do you vote where you live?
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