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My Journey with My Twin Flame(from my experience)
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Then all this is projected on to them; they see this and begin to pull away; because yes they are feeling this; yet we don't give them time to process their own feelings. We are so busy pushing our own on to them; that we forget to actually take things slow; allow it to blossom on it's own. We also forget that because this connection is so intense and so good, doesn't mean it falls I sees your traditional ideal relationship. It's a connection that's beyond romantics; and it's beyond what we are use to. It's a connection to reflect ones self to ourselves.
What does this mean? Well think about it, if you have felt this connection, you have noticed that you can easily point out this persons flaws; fears; insecurities; their deep rooted issues. The reason why you can do this; is because these are also your own issues, you too have the same fears, insecurities, flaws; fears and so on( and most of the time it's in detail.) So they are your reflection. You reflect each other; so when you pull away, they pull away.
For example,
This are going great; you are both on perfect sync, and then all of a sudden you begin to tell him, "I'm afraid."
He ask's, "why?"
"I don't know, I guess.....I'm afraid to fall in love with you. This is all to intense; to good to be true. How do you feel about us?"
And he goes silent; if you have noticed you already started to project your fears on to him, now he takes a step back and tells himself, "I've actually been feeling this. Maybe it is too good to be true. Maybe she's right, we need to take a step back. I need to take a step back." He also begins to question his feelings for you, he remembers his ex and falling for her to fast and it ended up in her hurting him, cheating on him, and he doesn't want to relieve that relationship, so he pulls away.
Now your confused, your scared, why is he pulling away? Did you do something wrong? Did he lie about his feelings, about having deep feeling for you? Was it all a game?
Do you see the repeating cycle. This often happens a lot with in the Twin Flame connection, and your probably asking yourself why? Why does he or she run while I chase and then when I'm done chasing they return? Then I become the runner(out of fear might I add).
Runners are usually the ones who are in most fear but won't actually express the fear. The chaser is also in fear; but because they seek answers, and want to communicate, they intensity. Both start to deny; and believe they are going
What does this mean? Well think about it, if you have felt this connection, you have noticed that you can easily point out this persons flaws; fears; insecurities; their deep rooted issues. The reason why you can do this; is because these are also your own issues, you too have the same fears, insecurities, flaws; fears and so on( and most of the time it's in detail.) So they are your reflection. You reflect each other; so when you pull away, they pull away.
For example,
This are going great; you are both on perfect sync, and then all of a sudden you begin to tell him, "I'm afraid."
He ask's, "why?"
"I don't know, I guess.....I'm afraid to fall in love with you. This is all to intense; to good to be true. How do you feel about us?"
And he goes silent; if you have noticed you already started to project your fears on to him, now he takes a step back and tells himself, "I've actually been feeling this. Maybe it is too good to be true. Maybe she's right, we need to take a step back. I need to take a step back." He also begins to question his feelings for you, he remembers his ex and falling for her to fast and it ended up in her hurting him, cheating on him, and he doesn't want to relieve that relationship, so he pulls away.
Now your confused, your scared, why is he pulling away? Did you do something wrong? Did he lie about his feelings, about having deep feeling for you? Was it all a game?
Do you see the repeating cycle. This often happens a lot with in the Twin Flame connection, and your probably asking yourself why? Why does he or she run while I chase and then when I'm done chasing they return? Then I become the runner(out of fear might I add).
Runners are usually the ones who are in most fear but won't actually express the fear. The chaser is also in fear; but because they seek answers, and want to communicate, they intensity. Both start to deny; and believe they are going
One usually becomes more impulsive, seeking then withdrawing, seeking again, the withdrawing again. The other seeks i indirectly, and then pulls away, seeks again to make sure you haven't forgotten them put as soon as your too intense they pull away again.
Why this dance; this push and pull? Lets forget about the romantics for a minute, because this is what we as people are so use to, we believe something this intense needs to be approached on a romantic level, because this is what society has taught us. A connection this strong me as we are meant to be together romantically. Can this be true, if both people are evolved, meaning without ego. When I say this I mean the mind set of tit for tat. You hurt me; I hurt you, you do this to me, I must do something to get back at you.
Toxic and self distractive behavior is what you will quickly learn is what you lost reflect on as you begin to take a better deep look in to yourself. This happen to me. I began to look with in myself for answers, because obviously I wasn't going to get it from him. So I did a lot of self reflecting. My first question is, Why am I so afraid to lose him?
As I continued asking questions to myself; I began to see and peel back layers(repressed emotions and memories) of my childhood. As I did this; I began to answer a lot of my own question, as I did, I began to heal. I also began to understand that this connection is meant to put us in a state of awakenedness, our own awareness to be a higher better self, to achieve our purpose in life and find a away through our own talents, help others with their struggles because this is also a connection that is spiritually bound. It's meant to bring balance in us, so we can find ourselves, something that through out our existence we lost. It teaches you how to truly love yourself unconditionally, in turn you will learn how to love not only them , but others unconditionally as well. It's not to say that your pain, and hurt, disappointments in life will go away; cause through connections we will experience all these things. It however, will help you forgive not on my yourself ; bit the person who caused you pain. Through this healing process you will learn how to appreciate lessons in life and then let go of old and future wounds, and you will learn to be with out the ego that keeps us trapped on our old habits.
Why this dance; this push and pull? Lets forget about the romantics for a minute, because this is what we as people are so use to, we believe something this intense needs to be approached on a romantic level, because this is what society has taught us. A connection this strong me as we are meant to be together romantically. Can this be true, if both people are evolved, meaning without ego. When I say this I mean the mind set of tit for tat. You hurt me; I hurt you, you do this to me, I must do something to get back at you.
Toxic and self distractive behavior is what you will quickly learn is what you lost reflect on as you begin to take a better deep look in to yourself. This happen to me. I began to look with in myself for answers, because obviously I wasn't going to get it from him. So I did a lot of self reflecting. My first question is, Why am I so afraid to lose him?
As I continued asking questions to myself; I began to see and peel back layers(repressed emotions and memories) of my childhood. As I did this; I began to answer a lot of my own question, as I did, I began to heal. I also began to understand that this connection is meant to put us in a state of awakenedness, our own awareness to be a higher better self, to achieve our purpose in life and find a away through our own talents, help others with their struggles because this is also a connection that is spiritually bound. It's meant to bring balance in us, so we can find ourselves, something that through out our existence we lost. It teaches you how to truly love yourself unconditionally, in turn you will learn how to love not only them , but others unconditionally as well. It's not to say that your pain, and hurt, disappointments in life will go away; cause through connections we will experience all these things. It however, will help you forgive not on my yourself ; bit the person who caused you pain. Through this healing process you will learn how to appreciate lessons in life and then let go of old and future wounds, and you will learn to be with out the ego that keeps us trapped on our old habits.
So if you are experiencing this connection note that resentment isn't going to help you; nor is playing the blame game; trying to get back at this person isn't going to help either; it will further hurt you both because you will feel guilty and they will feel confused. This connection isn't one that disappears; or with time goes away.
However, through letting go(turning the attention from them, to yourself) and putting all that energy on you to begin to do without old habits, you will begin to accept the connection instead of fighting it. Open up to it, even when it's painful. Remember all emotions are meant to be felt for a reason; pain, anger, resentment; hate, just as the good are also meant to be felt by us. It allows for you to break down and rebuild, to feel, and then let go, to forgive and yes forget. Everyone says ; I forgive, but I do not forget. When one truly forgives, you don't need reminding of that that has been done to use because when you are truly at peace from with in you don't look back for affirmation of what took place. It happened; now it's time to let go of it. Remember, many of us don't forget because we want to remember what it felt like to be betrayed or cheated and in so this gives us power to build a wall so we won't let people in. Because of we let them in, give them all of us, then that betrayal, or cheating can happen again.
I will continue to write more; on so I will also include some of my poems that I wrote while going through this. In my writing I explain a lot of what I was letting go of, accepting and letting in as well as letting go of.
Hope I can help those who are going through this. Because just like you I won't I was going insane; many told me it was an infatuation, others told me it wasn't true just my imagination. But just like you; I knew what I was feeling and going through and as much as I wanted to think it was a lie and not possible my soul told me it was possible.
There is a difference between obsession and this feeling. I tell you in my case it's not obsession. I know my limits, and I knew when to draw the line. I am a very logical person; who analyzes everything. Logic however can't explain this; when it happens you know. So don't let anyone say; it's not real or that your insane and obsessed. PM me of you have questions.
Note; I'm not an expert, what I speak of is from my own experiences and current experiences. So if I can't help you; I'll find away to answer your questions to the be
However, through letting go(turning the attention from them, to yourself) and putting all that energy on you to begin to do without old habits, you will begin to accept the connection instead of fighting it. Open up to it, even when it's painful. Remember all emotions are meant to be felt for a reason; pain, anger, resentment; hate, just as the good are also meant to be felt by us. It allows for you to break down and rebuild, to feel, and then let go, to forgive and yes forget. Everyone says ; I forgive, but I do not forget. When one truly forgives, you don't need reminding of that that has been done to use because when you are truly at peace from with in you don't look back for affirmation of what took place. It happened; now it's time to let go of it. Remember, many of us don't forget because we want to remember what it felt like to be betrayed or cheated and in so this gives us power to build a wall so we won't let people in. Because of we let them in, give them all of us, then that betrayal, or cheating can happen again.
I will continue to write more; on so I will also include some of my poems that I wrote while going through this. In my writing I explain a lot of what I was letting go of, accepting and letting in as well as letting go of.
Hope I can help those who are going through this. Because just like you I won't I was going insane; many told me it was an infatuation, others told me it wasn't true just my imagination. But just like you; I knew what I was feeling and going through and as much as I wanted to think it was a lie and not possible my soul told me it was possible.
There is a difference between obsession and this feeling. I tell you in my case it's not obsession. I know my limits, and I knew when to draw the line. I am a very logical person; who analyzes everything. Logic however can't explain this; when it happens you know. So don't let anyone say; it's not real or that your insane and obsessed. PM me of you have questions.
Note; I'm not an expert, what I speak of is from my own experiences and current experiences. So if I can't help you; I'll find away to answer your questions to the be
What is the sign of your twin flame, OP? Are you two still together?
I've met who I consider to be my twin flame, but I don't want to talk about it. I'm trying to forget. I love him, I hate him...I'm confused. One thing for certain however, that relationship caused a lot of havoc in my life. I was never the same.
I've met who I consider to be my twin flame, but I don't want to talk about it. I'm trying to forget. I love him, I hate him...I'm confused. One thing for certain however, that relationship caused a lot of havoc in my life. I was never the same.
Thank you for sharing this with us. I was in tears about half way through it, rang true for me in many ways.
Posted by WaterCup
What is the sign of your twin flame, OP? Are you two still together?
I've met who I consider to be my twin flame, but I don't want to talk about it. I'm trying to forget. I love him, I hate him...I'm confused. One thing for certain however, that relationship caused a lot of havoc in my life. I was never the same.
He's a Cancer male; his moon is in Leo, his venue and mars are in Leo as well. We are friends now; we both decided on it.
Posted by justagirl
Thank you for sharing this with us. I was in tears about half way through it, rang true for me in many ways.
I tear up about it every time I write about it. Not out of anger; but out of appreciation because I've come a long with since, as a person. Because my connection with him inspired me to be a better person; and I also realized that through my journey I can help others. There is no guide on how to deal with it. There is no right or wrong way to approach it. Everyone's experience is some what different.
The things that are the same with many, is ;
Age difference
One or both are in a relationship or have gotten out of a toxic relationship.
One person is more mature(evolved) and the other is less evolved.
You live either in different cities or states.
When they say love at first sight , Twin Flames is what I think about first. And it's because you see with in the soul of this person, all their pain, fears, what motivates them; what makes them smile; their eyes always tell you a story that only was written for you; and it's the same with them and it's this ability to read each other, see past the mask that begins to scare us the most.
This is how I felt with him; and it's crazy; because now we accept every part of one another, since we showed the ugly sides of each other right away. There was really no room for hiding or lying, and I'm happy for it.
It's not to say that from time to time I don't get frustrated with him. Or that I don't have my slip ups with him; but that allows me again; to see where it's stemming from and it allows him to see that "Hey, you need to take a closer look at your actions and why you are doing what you do."
It's always a learning process with me and him. However, as of now we are friends.
Posted by Impulsv
Thanks you for offering guidance. I'm glad I followed my heart as u suggested. No response from tf but was not sent for a response but genuine message of wishing him joy!
I'm glad you did. Even if there wasn't a response; there was still acknowledgement. I believe Twin Flame connections also teach us to do with out expectations. If I give you something, why must I expect for you to give me something in return?
If it comes from the heart; why am (ego) expecting you to do the same? When something is coming from with in, you do it because the act alone is enough to bring you gratification and if the person happens to give you something in return, that's nice as well. But we as people should do more without expect favors in return.
Many will say, well if you set no expectations, then where is the self worth. The self worth is within yourself. I know what I am worth, I don't need reassurance from anyone to tell me this. So why should you need someone else to tell you what your worth through their actions. It's not to say you should let someone, or anyone should let someone walk all over you; there is still something called setting boundaries. I
However; the next time any of us does something for someone and we do it, lets do it with out expectations. Whether it be, helping someone with something, doing a favor, or even within our own relationships, do it with out expecting a favor in return_??
I'm glad those who read this; were touched in some what. I'm always happy to help; and thank you all for reading_??
Posted by geminicandIe
Hey Sag, this was a very interesting read.
I am wondering how would I know which guy is my true twin flame? From all the guys I dated seriously, I felt all of them were my soulmate at some point...it was always a similar if not the same FEELING, but different men.
Can one have several twin flames in a lifetime? What is the difference between soulmate and twin flame? Is that why we call it THE ONE because our soul wants to be one with their soul?
Sorry for so many questions, I am a curious gemini. Thanks!
I can't say from personal experience that there is such a thing as multiple Twin Flames. But I've read of it. I've also read their are soulmates that mimic the intensity of the Twin Flame connections as well.
However, me personally I've only felt this intensity with one person. With my soulmate I haven't, and the depth of the connection isn't as deep as it is with my Twin flame.
Can this be a possibility to have more then one? It can be.
The way I was able to distinguish Soulmate from twin flame was I had an awakening experience, don't know how to put it in to words but. When my Twin Flame and I cross paths, it felt like home; I felt an awareness with in myself that I had never felt with no one else. It's like everything inside you shifts, and you see your true souls potential because of this person; and you want that, and you also want to walk and begin this journey with them and help them with their ability to reach their true soul potential. That's what I felt with my Twin Flame. Every break down; every healing process, everything I started to uncover about me, although I was angry, I gave him thanks for the ability to reflect it to me, it's a blessing, and I'm grateful and thankful for it and him.
It's not to say , you can't get this with a Soulmate, you still can. But....it's truly hard to explain, it's knowing, without a doubt in your soul, there is knowing.
It's not to say , you can't get this with a Soulmate, you still can. But....it's truly hard to explain, it's knowing, without a doubt in your soul, there is knowing.
Love In Different Forms (something I wrote while reflecting on my TF connection)
It is said that love comes in different forms. This is true, the love of a mother and father, siblings, family, friends, coworkers, associates, admires and those that inspire us, even love for our pets. However, there is one that we truly pay attention most above all others and that is love that comes in a romantic form.
Why is this ? Well because we all want someone who gets us. We want to share our all with this person. But when we trust wholeheartedly , when we love completely in traditional ways and feel betrayed we close up completely.
Then comes a different level of love. I say level because it's of the highest of loves. It reflects on to you fears that you have developed over the years. Anger and frustration, coping mechanism, even your ill will on to others that you thought were okay cause technically you are unavailable and they should have known this.
This love shows you every difference of love all at once, without the limitations or restrictions we all set for ourselves. This is the true meaning of falling in love. See, there is a difference, we have a first love which is pure, it falls through. Our optimism propels us forward again , we think we fall in love, so we say it, secretly however we are cautious of it. Giving but a fraction of us. Then we close up once we are hurt and disappointed again. We walk around finding countless others still feeling numb. When it feels like their is no hope for us we turn to god, ask for help to send you a sign that you can be saved, you want the one.
Before you know it, it finds you, you it and it's like a blessing. Yet what it shows you, you're not at all use to. They consume you with ever waking hour because you can't get them out of head. They feel the same.
It is this love, that multiplies to show you every form of love in one, along with the endlessness of it. It's the form we fear the most, want the most and avoid the most. Because it's the kind that opens up old wounds, and shows you things about you, you never knew.
It's endless forgiveness is what is truly puzzling. This forgiveness, true forgiveness and forget is so foreign to you and this too is seemed as to good to be true.
But is it?
It is said that love comes in different forms. This is true, the love of a mother and father, siblings, family, friends, coworkers, associates, admires and those that inspire us, even love for our pets. However, there is one that we truly pay attention most above all others and that is love that comes in a romantic form.
Why is this ? Well because we all want someone who gets us. We want to share our all with this person. But when we trust wholeheartedly , when we love completely in traditional ways and feel betrayed we close up completely.
Then comes a different level of love. I say level because it's of the highest of loves. It reflects on to you fears that you have developed over the years. Anger and frustration, coping mechanism, even your ill will on to others that you thought were okay cause technically you are unavailable and they should have known this.
This love shows you every difference of love all at once, without the limitations or restrictions we all set for ourselves. This is the true meaning of falling in love. See, there is a difference, we have a first love which is pure, it falls through. Our optimism propels us forward again , we think we fall in love, so we say it, secretly however we are cautious of it. Giving but a fraction of us. Then we close up once we are hurt and disappointed again. We walk around finding countless others still feeling numb. When it feels like their is no hope for us we turn to god, ask for help to send you a sign that you can be saved, you want the one.
Before you know it, it finds you, you it and it's like a blessing. Yet what it shows you, you're not at all use to. They consume you with ever waking hour because you can't get them out of head. They feel the same.
It is this love, that multiplies to show you every form of love in one, along with the endlessness of it. It's the form we fear the most, want the most and avoid the most. Because it's the kind that opens up old wounds, and shows you things about you, you never knew.
It's endless forgiveness is what is truly puzzling. This forgiveness, true forgiveness and forget is so foreign to you and this too is seemed as to good to be true.
But is it?
Well i figure if you met you twin flame then why arent you with you twin flame still?
Arent twin flames meant to be together forever?
Is it possible to have more than one twin flame? If so how so?
Many soulmates make youself one by learning what needs to be learnt this is your group of souls born to teach the life lessons to learn to be one with self
Now when that happens and you meet you twin flame and what happens then? Isnt when you meet you twin flame then you got to be with them always? Or is their something else to be done before you both can hook up together again? I think something must happen and the twin flames go and learn other things before they can hook up together again.Sounds like it coz i would have thought if a person has learnt all their lessons from soulmates and then hook up with twin flame they'd be together, yes?
Also does hooking up with a twin flame mean that you both have already learnt you life lessons needed to be learnt in order to meet up with each other and you meant to be with that person always?
Also if you have met you twin flame and not with twin flame why would that be? Isnt supposed to go if you learn all your life lessons from soulmates you can then be with twin flame always. so what happens when you meet twin flame and you not with twinflame whats with that? That isnt meant to go like that
Arent twin flames meant to be together forever?
Is it possible to have more than one twin flame? If so how so?
Many soulmates make youself one by learning what needs to be learnt this is your group of souls born to teach the life lessons to learn to be one with self
Now when that happens and you meet you twin flame and what happens then? Isnt when you meet you twin flame then you got to be with them always? Or is their something else to be done before you both can hook up together again? I think something must happen and the twin flames go and learn other things before they can hook up together again.Sounds like it coz i would have thought if a person has learnt all their lessons from soulmates and then hook up with twin flame they'd be together, yes?
Also does hooking up with a twin flame mean that you both have already learnt you life lessons needed to be learnt in order to meet up with each other and you meant to be with that person always?
Also if you have met you twin flame and not with twin flame why would that be? Isnt supposed to go if you learn all your life lessons from soulmates you can then be with twin flame always. so what happens when you meet twin flame and you not with twinflame whats with that? That isnt meant to go like that
There is a glitch in the system and i do not find it amusing in the slightest
I have to go another way before i am ever to be with my twin flame whilst he gets on with life itself
I detour, a detour, no less off the beaten path, the road less travelled, and one that must be travelled for i am leaving to navigate this unexplored territory with nothing but a mere compass in one hand and a wrist watch in the other, oh my I gasp its only eight o'clock explaining the she wont be here ever again and yet asks herself was she ever here?
I can not believe it is to be true but tried and tested is yet to be done, harken theyth bidden thy road to thy destiny she woeds
Ah fuck it I have to go now I left off where I am meant to go all those years ago and really its a damn shame this but tis neccessary coz the time is neigh and I choose to ride the neverending high
I have to go another way before i am ever to be with my twin flame whilst he gets on with life itself
I detour, a detour, no less off the beaten path, the road less travelled, and one that must be travelled for i am leaving to navigate this unexplored territory with nothing but a mere compass in one hand and a wrist watch in the other, oh my I gasp its only eight o'clock explaining the she wont be here ever again and yet asks herself was she ever here?
I can not believe it is to be true but tried and tested is yet to be done, harken theyth bidden thy road to thy destiny she woeds
Ah fuck it I have to go now I left off where I am meant to go all those years ago and really its a damn shame this but tis neccessary coz the time is neigh and I choose to ride the neverending high
Yeh it does sounds like it is too good to be true but it is a necessity and one well worth everything and I for one am glad to have made this choice and am comfortable in the knowledge of this and will become this all.
Yes and we can leave off whee we picked up and journey on towards a bigger better brighter day
And lets just do it this time heh?
Yes and we can leave off whee we picked up and journey on towards a bigger better brighter day
And lets just do it this time heh?
Because you meet your Twin Flame it doesn't mean you are meant to be with them. The forever, is when both souls are evolved enough where they can both handle the hurdles without either one jumping ship.
I believe in my opinion the prematurity (meeting your Twin in this life time) has much to do with your soul's vibration being so high that it awakens you both. Subconsciously you have somehow awakened each other. It can even happen with your Twin not being in the physical with you.
The major lessons of this connection in my opinion is to do away with old habits; manipulation, emotional , sexual and so on. Abandonment issues, cheating, codependency, and so on. So you can allow yourself to love you. Love starts from with in; that's where you need to begin the loving process. Once you do this; you can love unconditionally on the outside.
Something in you past; and as you get older makes you abandon unconditional love all together. Think about it; when you are born although you have never laid eyes on mom , you know it's mom, and your heart is completely open to mom.
Being naive stems from us finding the beauty in any and everything, even the ugly, because our hearts are open.
It's not until we begin to grow up; and are reprimanded, or feel pain, get hurt, or betrayed that we begin to build walls, if it's something traumatic we suppress instead of allow nature to take it's course and allow that pain to be felt so we can heal and slowly let go of such things that we hold on to.
Because Twins reflect everything that's hidden with in us; things we do not like about oneself, things we hide not only from others but ourselves, we fear this. We fear being so transparent to anyone. Which is backwards if you think about it. Cause we want someone to accept us; every inch of us; yet when the TF connection is experienced, one runs, it's an uncomfortable feeling.
In my opinion when you let this person in with in the first words you speak to each other, and there is no mask; just you; the you you hide even from yourself; and it feels right with them; it you admitting "I tend to manipulate others emotionally," or tell them secrets of your childhood that not even your mother knows. I believe that's when you know you have met your TF; but trust me your soul will know. Your mind will tell you ; your delusional; but your soul will tell you, "I've returned to my home."
I believe in my opinion the prematurity (meeting your Twin in this life time) has much to do with your soul's vibration being so high that it awakens you both. Subconsciously you have somehow awakened each other. It can even happen with your Twin not being in the physical with you.
The major lessons of this connection in my opinion is to do away with old habits; manipulation, emotional , sexual and so on. Abandonment issues, cheating, codependency, and so on. So you can allow yourself to love you. Love starts from with in; that's where you need to begin the loving process. Once you do this; you can love unconditionally on the outside.
Something in you past; and as you get older makes you abandon unconditional love all together. Think about it; when you are born although you have never laid eyes on mom , you know it's mom, and your heart is completely open to mom.
Being naive stems from us finding the beauty in any and everything, even the ugly, because our hearts are open.
It's not until we begin to grow up; and are reprimanded, or feel pain, get hurt, or betrayed that we begin to build walls, if it's something traumatic we suppress instead of allow nature to take it's course and allow that pain to be felt so we can heal and slowly let go of such things that we hold on to.
Because Twins reflect everything that's hidden with in us; things we do not like about oneself, things we hide not only from others but ourselves, we fear this. We fear being so transparent to anyone. Which is backwards if you think about it. Cause we want someone to accept us; every inch of us; yet when the TF connection is experienced, one runs, it's an uncomfortable feeling.
In my opinion when you let this person in with in the first words you speak to each other, and there is no mask; just you; the you you hide even from yourself; and it feels right with them; it you admitting "I tend to manipulate others emotionally," or tell them secrets of your childhood that not even your mother knows. I believe that's when you know you have met your TF; but trust me your soul will know. Your mind will tell you ; your delusional; but your soul will tell you, "I've returned to my home."
I think when you meet you twin flame and you arent with them yet you still have issues to deal with before you can be with them
I would be with my twin flame if he wanted to be with me now but as you can see this is not happening yet and i need to find a way in which I can make this happen for both myself and my twin flame
I would be with my twin flame if he wanted to be with me now but as you can see this is not happening yet and i need to find a way in which I can make this happen for both myself and my twin flame
Ok maybe i am delusional but i do feel within my self and my soul and everything that i am that I am meant to be with my twin flame and am wondering why I am not with them if i already have met them now in saying that I feel that theres got to be some other explanation as to why I am not with him, there other things I must accomplish myself to be with my twin flame and not sure what these are or if what I am thinking of doing the right thing to do.
i have a list of goals in which to accomplish- now how do I go about this the correct way that benefits everyone involved coz ultimately we both know at the end of the day it is up to me to decide which way and where to go?
Not sure what to do here? I want to be with my twin flame yet at the same time I dont want to miss out on any opportunities to accomplish my goals and also i dont want to make him feel as though he has to be with me if he doesnt want to or feel he got to do other things, I am not that way inclined to be a person who restricts another.
i have a list of goals in which to accomplish- now how do I go about this the correct way that benefits everyone involved coz ultimately we both know at the end of the day it is up to me to decide which way and where to go?
Not sure what to do here? I want to be with my twin flame yet at the same time I dont want to miss out on any opportunities to accomplish my goals and also i dont want to make him feel as though he has to be with me if he doesnt want to or feel he got to do other things, I am not that way inclined to be a person who restricts another.
Also I dont like to be restricted either and would prefer it if other people respect this about me and not push their own restrictive views upon me. This is for my twin flame and my soulmates and anyone else for that matter.
Its hard to explain really i might go now and think about this
Its hard to explain really i might go now and think about this
But what if you already have been through the unconditional process and have unconditional love for others? What then? I dont understand what you are saying? There was a site i had loked up and it said that when you meet your twin flame you will be with them all the time or it is time for you to be with them and it hasnt happened yet so makes me think I havent yet meet my twin flame...
But I feel like I have and am wondering if you or anyone else would know why i am not with him if what the site said about twin flames was true?
I have twin flame, a true love, soulmates and friends to consider here as well and alsothink that what happened before couldhave made it change to let me not be with my twinflame hence having to go to hell instead of elsewhere which I am glad for that to happen coz if the other thing had happened humanity wouldnt have survived and evil got its way and now this cant not happen ever I am very happy about and do wish to know who was behind this happening to me. Was it you? Or someone else?
Oh well what has happened has happened and i changed it for the better by my mind being strong and be fucked if i ever let evil has its way with me been around that crap since i can remember and aint going there again, never!
Now coz this has happened makes me think I cant be with said twin flame or true love or soulmates coz I must go to hell and fuck around down there and do aibt of partying like I had always wanted to do and its time you people realise that this is the choice I have choosen to do and theres nothing you can do but let me go so i can get on with it. Unless you all are planning on doing another ritual like before and trying to hurt me andthis aint going to happen coz its over and done with and has begun another direction in which I must follow myself and accomplish myself.
I guess what I am saying is that even though you guys wanted me dead you have your wish and can now let me go so i can go to hell coz thats how it is now, powers back in my hands that you all took from me and never again will it ever be in your hands again.
You think you can put it over me and hurt me always nah wont work at all, been there and done that nah hasnt worked at all, damn shame that, and yes you all can get psycho and use that babble on me to try and justify your evil ways but who you trying to kid yourselfs? you doing jsut fine with that and congrats for being the lovely peoples you are.
But I feel like I have and am wondering if you or anyone else would know why i am not with him if what the site said about twin flames was true?
I have twin flame, a true love, soulmates and friends to consider here as well and alsothink that what happened before couldhave made it change to let me not be with my twinflame hence having to go to hell instead of elsewhere which I am glad for that to happen coz if the other thing had happened humanity wouldnt have survived and evil got its way and now this cant not happen ever I am very happy about and do wish to know who was behind this happening to me. Was it you? Or someone else?
Oh well what has happened has happened and i changed it for the better by my mind being strong and be fucked if i ever let evil has its way with me been around that crap since i can remember and aint going there again, never!
Now coz this has happened makes me think I cant be with said twin flame or true love or soulmates coz I must go to hell and fuck around down there and do aibt of partying like I had always wanted to do and its time you people realise that this is the choice I have choosen to do and theres nothing you can do but let me go so i can get on with it. Unless you all are planning on doing another ritual like before and trying to hurt me andthis aint going to happen coz its over and done with and has begun another direction in which I must follow myself and accomplish myself.
I guess what I am saying is that even though you guys wanted me dead you have your wish and can now let me go so i can go to hell coz thats how it is now, powers back in my hands that you all took from me and never again will it ever be in your hands again.
You think you can put it over me and hurt me always nah wont work at all, been there and done that nah hasnt worked at all, damn shame that, and yes you all can get psycho and use that babble on me to try and justify your evil ways but who you trying to kid yourselfs? you doing jsut fine with that and congrats for being the lovely peoples you are.
Posted by Sagittarius2315Posted by geminicandIe
Hey Sag, this was a very interesting read.
I am wondering how would I know which guy is my true twin flame? From all the guys I dated seriously, I felt all of them were my soulmate at some point...it was always a similar if not the same FEELING, but different men.
Can one have several twin flames in a lifetime? What is the difference between soulmate and twin flame? Is that why we call it THE ONE because our soul wants to be one with their soul?
Sorry for so many questions, I am a curious gemini. Thanks!
I can't say from personal experience that there is such a thing as multiple Twin Flames. But I've read of it. I've also read their are soulmates that mimic the intensity of the Twin Flame connections as well.
However, me personally I've only felt this intensity with one person. With my soulmate I haven't, and the depth of the connection isn't as deep as it is with my Twin flame.
Can this be a possibility to have more then one? It can be.click to expand
Firstly, I'd like to also thank the OP profusely for sharing this information.
Secondly, I'd like to say that my reading on the subject indicates that one can have multiple SOUL MATES but ONLY ONE TF connection. The reason is because the TF is the other part of oneself. It's like a missing piece of a puzzle, only a single piece will fit perfectly.
From what I understand, Soul Mate connections are far more smooth sailing than TF connections. The twin flame pushes the boundaries of everything you know or think you know about love and relationships. It will take you to the depths of hell and back. It is often devastating and painful.
Posted by SpiceNSugar
From what I understand, Soul Mate connections are far more smooth sailing than TF connections. The twin flame pushes the boundaries of everything you know or think you know about love and relationships. It will take you to the depths of hell and back. It is often devastating and painful.
This so very true; this is why many end up with Soulmate connections(which is also for our own personal growths, they give us lessons to learn and we do the same with them).
This is why with Twin Flames if you have a lot of layers that you have build upon; have lots of ego(meaning always feeling like you are owed something, or like to control, manipulate and play games to get your way) then the relationship will quickly end.
Because you are opposites; yet so much a like(mirror effect), then you basically are blaming each other for certain behaviors you both secretly inhibit but aren't willing to acknowledge and accept because then if you do say "Yes, I am a cheat." Then it will actually be true, as appose what many say, "She or he knew I wasn't serious; or they knew what they were getting in to; they drove me to cheat on them with their insecurities or because they changed." It's always a They or She, it's always someone else's fault. However, this connection forces you to see the deep truth; and also forces you to find where this issue stems from.
So imagine, knowing someone that notated how hard you try to put on a mask for; will always see you for who you really are, the true you; that's a scary thing to many of us, and it's why many run, but also many have a tight hold as well. Whether it be the chaser or the runner; both have levels of issues. Chasers chase because they want to force in many ways for the runner to understand the connection, so you try to bagged them(not everyone, some) this is a form of controlling; with the chaser I say give the runner space, let them digest what they are feeling it because they too are confused and are going through their own levels of doubts.
The runner; I say, with you own feeling try to listen to the Chaser in a compassionate way ; allow them to speak to you about their feelings even if it scares you. If they become to intense, let them know and allow you both to take a step back. The stepping back is done to give room for healing; so when you reunite(which will happen a lot) your foundation is stron
Posted by SpiceNSugar
From what I understand, Soul Mate connections are far more smooth sailing than TF connections. The twin flame pushes the boundaries of everything you know or think you know about love and relationships. It will take you to the depths of hell and back. It is often devastating and painful.
is stronger and your able to deal with each other's differences.
Runners tend not to know how to express emotions; especially wen the feel pushed in a corner is why they run to get away from the confrontation, which many runners don't like.
Chasers are more open with their emotions; know how to express themselves verbally. However; chasers at times don't know how to listen with a compassionate ear. What mean is this; when your having an interesting conversation have you noticed that you will cut the person off mid sentence, tell your story, then stop and give the person whose talking the opportunity to talk until something they say strikes up a memory with in you and you cut them off again. For example;
"So, I wanted to talk because I feel we need to take a step back...."
Chaser says, "Yes I was thinking the same thing. Because this feels Siel crazy and I don't like feeling clingy. I don't think is healthy, what about you."
Runner nods his head in agreement, "I agree, I've been trying to get a hold of my emotions; but it's been so difficult all I do is think about you...."
"Oh my god me too. This is so crazy. I've been wondering if you were feeling the same thing."
"Yes I am as a matter a fact. It's really affecting my work; I can't focus in school...."
"Yes; I feel like I'm too engross and I just can't focus, and you?"
The runner looks at you exasperated and decides to not say another word.
This didn't done only in Twin Flame connections; it happens with people we interact with on a daily bases. The reason why I wanted to bring up this sinerio is because the Runner does what to express themselves; however often times the Chaser doesn't give them an opportunity to actually grasp what's happening.
I know what many are saying, well this is bull , you don't have to baby them, their grown they should know how to express themselves. This is common for many to think. However, in this case, it's not just babying, is helping them break old habits, be more communicative in any form of relationship.
Just because you can
Just because you can express yourself freely doesn't mean you must always push and push until the break, instead they will pull away and not trust you. Sometimes silence; having an open heart and open ear is enough for the Runner; allow them to slowly open up; and wait till they finish talking ; then you speak and explain what you are feeling.
Remember this change is happening to the both of you; for your benefits, your are walking along side each other as one , but also as individuals with your own levels of fears and insecurities. Help with your wisdom; don't break or criticize them because they don't communicate as freely as you do.
This goes for every area in our lives; not just with our twin. What we often do in our romantic and personal relationships also reflect upon other areas of our lives, and how we interact with others on a day to day bases.
Remember this change is happening to the both of you; for your benefits, your are walking along side each other as one , but also as individuals with your own levels of fears and insecurities. Help with your wisdom; don't break or criticize them because they don't communicate as freely as you do.
This goes for every area in our lives; not just with our twin. What we often do in our romantic and personal relationships also reflect upon other areas of our lives, and how we interact with others on a day to day bases.
I do have a question; this is more for your own reflection, and for you to think about why you do the things you do. Where does it stem from? Where did you learn this behavior? When did it begin? (Child, adolescent or adult).
This question is addressed to the Chasers. Reasons why is because they are the ones to understand and notice the signs first before the runner does but begin to deny it because there is no reassurance that their twin might be feeling the same way.
Ask yourself" Why do I chase?"
Then ask yourself, "Why am I afraid to lose this person."
You don't have to answer it here. Even now as I go through this journey I keep a diary; and write so I can go back and understand where do certain behaviors come from and how can I do away with them in a positive way. When I say this is, we have positives and negatives and both should be accepted completely. However we can improve, and allow these habits to hurt are relationships less then what they usually do.
For example, Self Destructive Behavior. Why do you(if you do) have self destructive behavior? Who did you learn it from? When did it start? Why in your opinion do you continue to do this? And then ask yourself , how can I do away with this behavior?
Food for thought _??
This question is addressed to the Chasers. Reasons why is because they are the ones to understand and notice the signs first before the runner does but begin to deny it because there is no reassurance that their twin might be feeling the same way.
Ask yourself" Why do I chase?"
Then ask yourself, "Why am I afraid to lose this person."
You don't have to answer it here. Even now as I go through this journey I keep a diary; and write so I can go back and understand where do certain behaviors come from and how can I do away with them in a positive way. When I say this is, we have positives and negatives and both should be accepted completely. However we can improve, and allow these habits to hurt are relationships less then what they usually do.
For example, Self Destructive Behavior. Why do you(if you do) have self destructive behavior? Who did you learn it from? When did it start? Why in your opinion do you continue to do this? And then ask yourself , how can I do away with this behavior?
Food for thought _??
Posted by Sagittarius2315
So imagine, knowing someone that notated how hard you try to put on a mask for; will always see you for who you really are, the true you; that's a scary thing to many of us, and it's why many run, but also many have a tight hold as well. Whether it be the chaser or the runner; both have levels of issues. Chasers chase because they want to force in many ways for the runner to understand the connection, so you try to bagged them(not everyone, some) this is a form of controlling; with the chaser I say give the runner space, let them digest what they are feeling it because they too are confused and are going through their own levels of doubts.
The runner; I say, with you own feeling try to listen to the Chaser in a compassionate way ; allow them to speak to you about their feelings even if it scares you. If they become to intense, let them know and allow you both to take a step back. The stepping back is done to give room for healing; so when you reunite(which will happen a lot) your foundation is stronclick to expand
So when I feel as if all masks are ripped off when I am around him, would be similar to what you are talking about here? Just trying to understand all this. I literally stumbled across this thread and the other last night & as I commented early, I was an emotional mess after reading it.
@Justgirl- yes it can very well be. If you have a strong for you to be completely transparent, and open without being deceitful or dishonest. At all times you want your connection to them to be pure, honest, positive communication between the two, non combative verbally, you even watch what you say just so you won't wound them with your words.
Of course I believe this all depends with how evolved (mature) both of you are and with out Ego.
Of course I believe this all depends with how evolved (mature) both of you are and with out Ego.
Sagitarrius, let's just say you had a falling out with said twin flame, wouldn't this hamper your abilities and willingness to connect with your soul mate? So what I'm asking do you think soul mates have the potential to become twin flames over time? I mean it seems common to me that the reason twin flames, seem to be encountered over the internet has to do with the fact individuals are more open through the guise of anonymity. Not to say that this connection isn't real, but the potential for this type of connection is more probable due to the fact that people will be more open and have less walls in place.
Posted by mrdesperado
Sagitarrius, let's just say you had a falling out with said twin flame, wouldn't this hamper your abilities and willingness to connect with your soul mate? So what I'm asking do you think soul mates have the potential to become twin flames over time? I mean it seems common to me that the reason twin flames, seem to be encountered over the internet has to do with the fact individuals are more open through the guise of anonymity. Not to say that this connection isn't real, but the potential for this type of connection is more probable due to the fact that people will be more open and have less walls in place.
Good question and I'm curious as well
From my experience, I think I met my twin flame in person. But different circumstances prevented this from coming to fruition. I believe there was an instant connection, but through time is where it was really recognized. Due to messed up circumstances , I don't really see them at all. Not even circumstances that deal with us persay, but still exist. So what I'm saying is that experience, hampers ones ability to be receptive to allowing a soul mate and you to open up to each other to build a solid foundation.
@MrDesperado
The concept is that there's a clear distinction between a soul mate (of which you may have several) and twin flame (of which you have only one). The one can not become the other because they are truly distinct entities.
Hypothetically, the twin flame is your "other half", but not necessarily your "best match" as a lifetime partner because there will likely be much tension and misunderstanding between the two of you. You will reflect one another's good and bad sides, "push each other's buttons", and wreak havoc on one another emotionally despite the extremely strong bond that is inherent between you. Some people whose souls are "evolved" are able to move past these trials and difficulties, and the twin flame then becomes a "permanent partner" forming a "match made in heaven".
However, the majority of people are substantially more likely to end up with a soul mate connection as a lifetime partner because their communication will be easier and more harmonious. There will be less tension and more mutual understanding.
Of course, I welcome Sag to correct me if I'm wrong on any of the above information.
The concept is that there's a clear distinction between a soul mate (of which you may have several) and twin flame (of which you have only one). The one can not become the other because they are truly distinct entities.
Hypothetically, the twin flame is your "other half", but not necessarily your "best match" as a lifetime partner because there will likely be much tension and misunderstanding between the two of you. You will reflect one another's good and bad sides, "push each other's buttons", and wreak havoc on one another emotionally despite the extremely strong bond that is inherent between you. Some people whose souls are "evolved" are able to move past these trials and difficulties, and the twin flame then becomes a "permanent partner" forming a "match made in heaven".
However, the majority of people are substantially more likely to end up with a soul mate connection as a lifetime partner because their communication will be easier and more harmonious. There will be less tension and more mutual understanding.
Of course, I welcome Sag to correct me if I'm wrong on any of the above information.
Posted by SpiceNSugar
@MrDesperado
The concept is that there's a clear distinction between a soul mate (of which you may have several) and twin flame (of which you have only one). The one can not become the other because they are truly distinct entities.
Hypothetically, the twin flame is your "other half", but not necessarily your "best match" as a lifetime partner because there will likely be much tension and misunderstanding between the two of you. You will reflect one another's good and bad sides, "push each other's buttons", and wreak havoc on one another emotionally despite the extremely strong bond that is inherent between you. Some people whose souls are "evolved" are able to move past these trials and difficulties, and the twin flame then becomes a "permanent partner" forming a "match made in heaven".
However, the majority of people are substantially more likely to end up with a soul mate connection as a lifetime partner because their communication will be easier and more harmonious. There will be less tension and more mutual understanding.
Of course, I welcome Sag to correct me if I'm wrong on any of the above information.
Your right on the money. Twin Flames, are just that, your Twin soul. So both of you reflect each other, your weakness, your fears, insecurities, your strengths, and positives as well.
It's like seriously looming at yourself in a mirror(looking at your soul).
Soulmates are basically your teachers and students to one another. Each one giving your something to further evolve as a person, they also help you see what you deny to yourself(bad habits). Once the soulmates have fulfilled their contracts(teaching you and also learning from you) they go on to help someone else.
In many of our relationships we encounter our soulmates, learn things from them, and they from us and once things have ran their course, they either stay in our lives or move on. The meeting of a Twin Flame prematurely is a hinderance because our meetings with Soulmates are meant to help us evolve, cutting it short to be with your Twin Flame (if you have met them) brings yours growth to a halt because you literately become engrossed in them, you begin to stop doing daily activities that you have done before them, just to be with them, or talk to them. You think about them every single second of the day; have fantasies about them, get distracted by them. I
Posted by mrdesperado
Sagitarrius, let's just say you had a falling out with said twin flame, wouldn't this hamper your abilities and willingness to connect with your soul mate? So what I'm asking do you think soul mates have the potential to become twin flames over time? I mean it seems common to me that the reason twin flames, seem to be encountered over the internet has to do with the fact individuals are more open through the guise of anonymity. Not to say that this connection isn't real, but the potential for this type of connection is more probable due to the fact that people will be more open and have less walls in place.
It can't hinder your connection with your soulmate if you don't understand the purpose of the connection. It's meant to kick your growth in overdrive(at least I believe so). If you understand that the connection(if in fact it doesn't work out between the two) is for you to begin serious inner healing, to do away with ego, to love others unconditionally( meaning loving thy neighbor, thy enemy, those that have done good for you as well as bad, but above all loving thy self and accepting our imperfections not as a flaw but as a blessing).
Then you can have a long lasting relationship with a Soulmate. The intensity won't be the same, but it will be fruitful just the same. This so why I say if your in a current relationship and happen to meet your Twin Flame, you shouldn't leave your Soulmate for them. Your soulmate is in your life for a reason, to assist, I say you Twin Flame is the constant reminder to keep you in line. Once your soulmate has done his job(the relationship ends on it's own with no outside influences, meaning your twin.) then hopefully you have learned enough from your relationship with your soulmate and grown(evolved) enough to be with your Twin Flame.
I've heard(read)many times that ones you have learned the lessons that are needed to be taught to you for your souls to evolve then you and your Twin Flame unite as one, until this happens you will both continue on learning lessons until you have absorbed them as you should so you can move on to the next one and so on.
Hope this makes sense.
It can*
Posted by Impulsv
Does it hamper ur ability to connect with a soulmate after meeting tf. Yes I can I've seen lots of people not moving forward or giving others a time a day. In a way u feel why do u want to settles for less after meeting the most perfect person for u at a soul level. But one must understand that it may not be time n that other soul might be a stepping stone to the reunion. Now the question is how can u be with n tell another that there is another u love. Can this man accept what u can only give. I don't know the answer.
Sag how do u balance does ur mate know about tf,
He and I had gone through a long break up. I believe taking a step back from our relationship also helped me a lot. During the break up period we had, I did ask him if he believes that's a person can love two people at the same time; can you have that much room in your heart to do so. He answered Yes, he does believe you can have love and appreciation for two people. I began to explain to him about Twin Flame connections and Soulmates, and as I was explaining to him, I did bring my TF. Explained the dynamics and so forth. Mind you we were still broken up, and he was upset cause he felt romantically you can't have love for two people, for him that's impossible.
When he brought up romatics, I explained to him that my connection with my TF far exceeds romantics because it's at a spiritual level. Because of this I've accepted that my connection with him is to make me a better person. I also told him; he too is someone who has taught me a lot, and he told me I've taught him a lot. We helped each other grow up. As I explained things; he still wasn't happy. But as time went by he began to grasp what I was explaining to him.
Now that we have gotten back together, my love for my bf(soulmate) is stronger. I appreatie him more; his flaws, I've learned to communicate openly because is something I always do with my TF and not just I openly , but honestly. My soulmate is a Cap and Caps are very loyal and honest and respectful(when in love, with loved ones and close friends) so he expects the same in return. Which I can finally say I am giving to him. Before my TF my ego was so big that I didn't know how to apologize and do it through actions(trying not to say just to say it, but mean it by trying not to do it again.). I'm also more compassionate, and show it, emotionally I'm more open.
My soulmat
Posted by Impulsv
What do u do when u feel abandoned by ur tf. In 4 year he's never ignored a call or a Xmas card. This is a firts n it hurts that my Xmas card has gone unnoticed. I mean I sent it expecting nothing but when nothing is returned it still stings. I feel so stupid like why do I continue to put myself through this.
In the past before me and my BF got back together, I felt like you. Sometimes I would ask myself what's the point of reaching out to my TF. I would feel so stupid, and alone, even rejected when he wouldn't reply back to my text, or call. It hurt, and it's not easy to do.
What I can say, is stay busy. Try to push him and his absence out of your head. Workout if you can; go out with friends, socialize, do for you. I know it's easier said then done, but once you occupy your time more with things you like to do, you won't think of him as much. If you have pictures, or emails, even music that reminds you of him, I say, erase from your phone(don't delete; for example I use to keep my TF's pic on my screen saver and noticed every time I looked at him I get this overwhelming feeling of sadness. So move emails to other folders in your phone or email so you won't come across it.) the less things you have that remind you of him, the better. Put it away in a place where you can forget about it.
Telepathically, you can close yourself off from him. Create a place in your mind, and soul that's only for you, where he's not allowed. Keep this place free of him, and when you go to sleep envision this place so you won't be dream of him. The more you practice these things ; you won't be subjected to the pain he causes you.
Posted by Sagittarius2315
@Justgirl- yes it can very well be. If you have a strong for you to be completely transparent, and open without being deceitful or dishonest. At all times you want your connection to them to be pure, honest, positive communication between the two, non combative verbally, you even watch what you say just so you won't wound them with your words.
Of course I believe this all depends with how evolved (mature) both of you are and with out Ego.
I tend to be an honest person by nature, but I find myself telling him things I hadn't planned on ...at least not at that point and time. I mean things I've kept hidden from almost every person in my current life about things that I went through as a child. Then at times I get overwhelmed when I am talking with him and scattered. Only way I can think to describe it...
are there books on the twin flame/soul mate connection? I am sure there is. Any you recommend?
What happens when TFs diverge? Will they ever come together again on earth?
I believe each dance is different depending on how evolve both parties are.
The stages from my own experience is basically to have you do away with your ego; tune in to your spirituality and learn above all how to love your self, thy neighbor and TF unconditionally.
Reuniting(where your TF (or even you) seeks you out, to me happens when you have shed away some kind of insecurity; or have gained clarity of something(can be healing, loving yourself more, positive attributes that you have, as well as acceptance of the good and the bad, with in you.) it's like climbing a latter; step one will have a lesson for you; the length of the stage depends on how long it takes you to learn that lesson, once you have you go to step two, with in step two either you or your TF seeks you out, I believe this occurs because you send out that positive energy in their direction as well, because they feel this loving energy they seek you out.
Like I said this is from my own experience, I found when I had shed old habits, and turned the energy on to a positive to love me from with in; my TF felt that energy and would and still seeks me out. It's when ever the negatives and the ego(old destructive habits) got on the way; is when he would pull away.
Has he pulled away, since my last regression and his last regression? I can happily say that, No he hasn't.
If you begin to feel a level of fear, take a step back and begin to ask yourself why are you fearing the connection. The number one reason is always because you fear to give to much of yourself to a person(again) and they will hurt and leave you.
If this stands true to you, this is the start of looking with in you. This connection is about spiritual growth; and doing away with old habits(lying, cheating, deceit, manipulation, co-dependency, destroying a good relationship; having trouble communicating, fear of abandonment; ect) it's also meant to strengthen the positives.
So far, these are the things that I've noticed are the major key points of the relationship. Many focus on reuniting with their TF; however, this isn't going to happen unless you begin to do the inner work; you have to begin shifting the energy inwardly and work on yourself, to grow.
Hope this makes sense.
The stages from my own experience is basically to have you do away with your ego; tune in to your spirituality and learn above all how to love your self, thy neighbor and TF unconditionally.
Reuniting(where your TF (or even you) seeks you out, to me happens when you have shed away some kind of insecurity; or have gained clarity of something(can be healing, loving yourself more, positive attributes that you have, as well as acceptance of the good and the bad, with in you.) it's like climbing a latter; step one will have a lesson for you; the length of the stage depends on how long it takes you to learn that lesson, once you have you go to step two, with in step two either you or your TF seeks you out, I believe this occurs because you send out that positive energy in their direction as well, because they feel this loving energy they seek you out.
Like I said this is from my own experience, I found when I had shed old habits, and turned the energy on to a positive to love me from with in; my TF felt that energy and would and still seeks me out. It's when ever the negatives and the ego(old destructive habits) got on the way; is when he would pull away.
Has he pulled away, since my last regression and his last regression? I can happily say that, No he hasn't.
If you begin to feel a level of fear, take a step back and begin to ask yourself why are you fearing the connection. The number one reason is always because you fear to give to much of yourself to a person(again) and they will hurt and leave you.
If this stands true to you, this is the start of looking with in you. This connection is about spiritual growth; and doing away with old habits(lying, cheating, deceit, manipulation, co-dependency, destroying a good relationship; having trouble communicating, fear of abandonment; ect) it's also meant to strengthen the positives.
So far, these are the things that I've noticed are the major key points of the relationship. Many focus on reuniting with their TF; however, this isn't going to happen unless you begin to do the inner work; you have to begin shifting the energy inwardly and work on yourself, to grow.
Hope this makes sense.
Posted by pisceanpisces
yes, thank you. Does it happen, you change roles? 😄
Yes; we have changed roles. In the beginning he was chasing; and you can say for a day I was running; then I said F it things happen for a reason and I began to give in; my giving in to the intensity must of scared him and he began to take a step back, I continued chasing, this happened for a while.
Once I began to figure out the real reason for our connection , and began to read about Twin souls; and how to shift the energy towards your self to do inner workings of your own growth; he started to chase, don't know if it was because he felt I was distant, which I wasn't, I just wasn't upset or resentful, I was at peace with the outcome. This must have scared him, and he began to chase.
When he did; it's when we had a serious discussion and I told him I truly believed that our connection was beyond romantics and we shouldn't at the moment approach it in that way. In my opinion we are meant to be friends above all else in order to allow each other growth, without hinderance with over obsessive behavior which isn't healthy.
Do I still sometimes get sad? Or sometimes question why things seem to go south at times when I get to invested in him? Yes I do, I'm human. There are times of weakness, and I declare my love to him; and that I'm still in love with him. Which I still do; but I know the decision we made is the best.
I am with my soulmate and my soul tells me that our relationship is not yet over; I haven't learned all I need to learn from him and he from me. So I have to allow that to flourish as it should. You can't cut one relationship short just because you meet your twin flame, or twin soul. I know it's hard; but you shouldn't. At least on my opinion; you meet certain people, but it doesn't mean if you feel romantic towards them that you are meant to pursue the relationship in the manor.
At times it's meant to teach you something aside from what your soul mate is teaching you.
My problem was allowing myself to truly let go and love unconditionally; I still held a part of myself to myself because I felt I need to keep a certain part of me reserved to me(commitment issues). My Twin Flame made me switch gears; and taught me that letting go doesn't mean your losing your individuality or your freedom. In fact; loving openly; unconditionally is freedom in it's self.
Don't know if
Don't know if that makes sense. But when you hold a part of you, to try and control the amount of exposure you give to others is actually with holding your own freedom. When you truly let go, is when you keep yourself from being bound, and trapped.
At least is the way I feel. Because like I said before everyone is different. The key is unconditional love. Many say romantic love is conditional; but that's because society has taught us to have conditions. Conditions are none existent; it's illusive. You believe it in your mind, but your soul knows no such thing.
This doesn't only go for romantic's; this goes for every relationship, even friendship. Why put limits? What are we so afraid of? Why keep secrets? What do we gain from secrets and deceptiveness or butting conditions and limitations on something that we shouldn't fear to begin with?
At least is the way I feel. Because like I said before everyone is different. The key is unconditional love. Many say romantic love is conditional; but that's because society has taught us to have conditions. Conditions are none existent; it's illusive. You believe it in your mind, but your soul knows no such thing.
This doesn't only go for romantic's; this goes for every relationship, even friendship. Why put limits? What are we so afraid of? Why keep secrets? What do we gain from secrets and deceptiveness or butting conditions and limitations on something that we shouldn't fear to begin with?
Posted by Sagittarius2315
Don't know if that makes sense. But when you hold a part of you, to try and control the amount of exposure you give to others is actually with holding your own freedom. When you truly let go, is when you keep yourself from being bound, and trapped.
At least is the way I feel. Because like I said before everyone is different. The key is unconditional love. Many say romantic love is conditional; but that's because society has taught us to have conditions. Conditions are none existent; it's illusive. You believe it in your mind, but your soul knows no such thing.
This doesn't only go for romantic's; this goes for every relationship, even friendship. Why put limits? What are we so afraid of? Why keep secrets? What do we gain from secrets and deceptiveness or butting conditions and limitations on something that we shouldn't fear to begin with?
The reason why boundaries exist in relationships is that you have to be practical when bridging the gap between the ideal of unconditional love and realistic "act" of loving. Although we are souls, we live in the physical. Hence, we love in accordance to our own understanding of it, but in relationships we must balance this with those who we are intimate(romantic and agape love) and their understanding. With each of us being here to learn and grow, their is no "superior" or greater knowledge of love. There is simply our expression of it in different dimensions. What must be looked at is ones true intent. You can't love with wreckless abandon. Loving also has a power and with power comes responsibility. In order to understand love, you have to get a full grasp of emotions because emotions is how we live...exist.
Posted by pisceanpisces
Shall we elaborate the Runner vs Chaser part? 🙂
I learnt that the Runner has worse experience because he/she could not give her/his love (stays inside) BUT he/she felt ultimate love from its Twin. Hence, he/she feels they will never be loved and actively love again in their life. Because there is no deeper connection.
Another thing: the Chaser has to understand that every step of the Runner is towards her/him. (even if it feels he/she goes away).
This is interesting. I'd like to believe it's true, but have a hard time believing that the runner suffers more than the chaser.
Do you have any links that expand on this information?
^^^^^
I believe what you say is true. I believe that the runner does have the most difficult time dealing with the connection, only because they are the ones that hide the most from their feelings. So the feel trapped and confused. It's a mental and soul tug of war. They want to believe, but don't know how.
The Chaser will tell them to trust, but the runner still has a lot of difficulty trusting, accepting and so forth. Its not excusing the runner. But I know my Twin Flame struggles with it cause he has mentioned it to me.
I believe what you say is true. I believe that the runner does have the most difficult time dealing with the connection, only because they are the ones that hide the most from their feelings. So the feel trapped and confused. It's a mental and soul tug of war. They want to believe, but don't know how.
The Chaser will tell them to trust, but the runner still has a lot of difficulty trusting, accepting and so forth. Its not excusing the runner. But I know my Twin Flame struggles with it cause he has mentioned it to me.
Posted by pisceanpisces
You asked for about the runner:
http://www.carmacoaching.nl/artikelen/artikel.php?id=46<BR>
Thanks for this link. Please provide others on this topic if you come across them.
Posted by pisceanpisces
Runners perspective:
1. when one critter chases another critter the critter being chased will have one of 2 reactions. it either turns on it's persuer and defends itself or ... it'll run. simple natural base reaction.
2. expectations. "Stayers" have their expectations. they have their romantic notions as to how the relationship "should" work. often these notions have little to do with the reality of the situation and even less about the actual personality of their "TF". and what's worse is that the "Stayer" may have conflicting expectations that are confusing and impossible to fulfill.
3. acceptance or more precisely the lack thereof. a "Runner" may run because they can see there is no way they can fulfill the expectations of their "TF", that the image their "TF" has of them is too incongruent with who they actually are. the pressure to be that "TF" image can get to be too much. so it's "bye bye for now, my beloved but needy and confusing soul connection".
4. responsibility. apparently it's up to the "Runner" to adjust to the expectations of the "Stayer". the "Stayer" need not dig deeper into their own psyches and behaviors so to recognize how their "TF" may be mirroring some aspect of themselves. "Runners" may run because there may be some aspect of their "TF's" Id that is running or that, as in my case, the "Stayer" (though secret from himself) actually enjoys the chase and wants the "Runner" to run.
with all this lack of self awareness intact the "Stayer" can read something like the OP and feel secure that it's the "Runner" who lacks maturity and awareness and is causing disharmony. the "Stayer" can sigh woeful sighs, point fingers at their reluctant "TF" and commiserate with other "abandonned" "Stayers". how convenient.
yeah, i feel rather defensive because i'll twist myself into preztel knots to please my beloved One but as long as it always comes down to me and he need not recognize himself in the equation i'll keep running until he quits chasing me with expections i can't fulfill, acknowledge the hidden expectations i'm already fulfilling and accepts me for who We are.
PS. for all you women "Stayers" out there. masculinity is imbued with natural force and aggression. traditionally men are the hunters so most men don't like to be chased. they usually prefer to do the chasing. that's romance 101.
This is about rig
Got cut short...lol.
This is about right. When the "Stayer." Learns how to let go of expectations, and realize the true meaning of the connection, is when they begin to evolve and take in the lessons the connection has to
Offer. Further more, for some reason this is around the time "the letting go period of the Chaser.) where the runner comes back in to the life of the Chaser with a new sense of clarity. However, if the runner, runs again is because the Chaser once again falls back in to expecting a romantic relationship and pushes.
To be honest; this not only happens in TF, relationships but also in Soulmate relationships(even friendships.) were on party clings, becomes to needy and all this really is the fear of of abandonment. So you rather smother from fear of the person one day walking out on you.
Thank you pisceanpisces, I liked that post a lot.
This is about right. When the "Stayer." Learns how to let go of expectations, and realize the true meaning of the connection, is when they begin to evolve and take in the lessons the connection has to
Offer. Further more, for some reason this is around the time "the letting go period of the Chaser.) where the runner comes back in to the life of the Chaser with a new sense of clarity. However, if the runner, runs again is because the Chaser once again falls back in to expecting a romantic relationship and pushes.
To be honest; this not only happens in TF, relationships but also in Soulmate relationships(even friendships.) were on party clings, becomes to needy and all this really is the fear of of abandonment. So you rather smother from fear of the person one day walking out on you.
Thank you pisceanpisces, I liked that post a lot.
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