#metoo

Anyone else's FB feed littered with this nonsense? Literally every chick who's had a guy ask her out with a cheesy pick-up line has by definition been "sexually harassed". XD The validation/attention hoaring is real with this one. https://c
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dxp is dominated by women run bro!
32 years old male from United Consciousness of Yugoslavia
"Leo Sun. Taur Asc. Cancer Moon
I have already said this - you can't expect to have a serious discussion about these things on social media.

MeToo is attention hoaring and cyber bullying.
32 years old male from United Consciousness of Yugoslavia
"Leo Sun. Taur Asc. Cancer Moon
And so the Me Too campaign has harvested its first life, as it goes when you're thrown to the wolves on a whim.

"Labour minister Carl Sargeant ‘begged party chiefs to tell him sex pest allegations’ before ‘he took his own life’

“I’ve said it before but there has to be anonymity for anybody facing sexual abuse or assault allegations as well as the victim.

“How many more suicides do there have to be before the Home Office acts on this? Carl was still innocent!”

Assembly Member Jenny Rathbone said that Sargeant had not been told details of the allegations that had been made against him.


https://www.google.se/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/news/4861742/labour-carl-sargeant-groping-women-allegations-found-dead/amp/
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Posted by aquarius_man

just delete the topic, like the common sense should dictate, anyway, you piece of butter



"Common sense" according to someone who sexually insults my mother in a thread on sexism and harassment. Well played, sir

I'm sorry from now on I will only express thoughts and feelings that resonate with your sentiments.

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yep do so.

32 years old male from United Consciousness of Yugoslavia
"Leo Sun. Taur Asc. Cancer Moon
Posted by aquarius_man

just delete the topic, like the common sense should dictate, anyway, you piece of butter



"Common sense" according to someone who sexually insults my mother in a thread on sexism and harassment. Well played, sir

I'm sorry from now on I will only express thoughts and feelings that resonate with your sentiments.

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Posted by aquarius_man
@enfant_terrible
thats me alright, the white knight with a BBC


Counterproductive
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Posted by aquarius_man
@enfant_terrible
thats me alright, the white knight with a BBC


Counterproductive
@enfant_terrible
thats me alright, the white knight with a BBC
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Posted by aquarius_man

is there a moderator/ admin ? why won't you delete the crap this piece of $ it writes?

treetrunk his mother



So you are offending my mother to get to me? Is that some new form of political activism?

Typical cracks in the facade for a shady individual parading as a white knight. Has your act gotten you laid yet? A few PMs at least?

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just delete the topic, like the common sense should dictate, anyway, you piece of butter

female
bukowski is right
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And on another thread, female dxpers remain adamant that men should always make the first move, while alluding to the fact that persistence can sometimes pay off...

#21stcenturymentreetrunkedoverbytheirony


Haha where?
32 years old male from United Consciousness of Yugoslavia
"Leo Sun. Taur Asc. Cancer Moon
Posted by aquarius_man

is there a moderator/ admin ? why won't you delete the crap this piece of $ it writes?

treetrunk his mother



So you are offending my mother to get to me? Is that some new form of political activism?

Typical cracks in the facade for a shady individual parading as a white knight. Has your act gotten you laid yet? A few PMs at least?

32 years old male from United Consciousness of Yugoslavia
"Leo Sun. Taur Asc. Cancer Moon
Posted by aquarius_man
the moron who opened this thread . this is not a thread that should be allowed on dxp. just delete it, it's treetrunking toxic you dumb treetrunkwad


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Mercurian and Venusian First Decan Leo. Third Decan Aquarius Rising.
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Thanks!


Sure thing, no worries.
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Posted by rabidtalker
Anyone have access to the rest of this article? everyone wants me to pay money i'd rather spend on dxp points now...


www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/had-enough-metoo-hashtag-feminism-intellectual-laziness/

I've had enough of MeToo 'hashtag feminism' and its intellectual laziness
I was walking home from the station last night – lost in my phone – when…you can tell what’s coming, right? A tale of male predation, in which some bloke did something threatening/inappropriate/disgusting to me.

You’ve heard a lot of these stories since the Harvey Weinstein harassment claims hit the news. And you’re about to hear a lot more. Since the weekend, women the internet over have begun posting under the #metoo hashtag and – like the fury over Weinstein’s misdemeanours – this "movement" is only gathering force.

“Me too” refers to sexual harassment. It is intended to demonstrate just how widespread this aspect of female experience is. It is also intended to galvanise as many women as possible to “speak out”, to “tell their stories” – curiously dated phrases that echo the consciousness-raising lingo of the 1970s feminist movement.

Except that unlike the Women’s Liberation Movement in...

...


You can actually sign up for free and view one Premium article per week.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/had-enough-metoo-hashtag-feminism-intellectual-laziness/

(begin quoted material)

I've had enough of MeToo 'hashtag feminism' and its intellectual laziness
ZOE STRIMPEL

I was walking home from the station last night – lost in my phone – when…you can tell what’s coming, right? A tale of male predation, in which some bloke did something threatening/inappropriate/disgusting to me.

You’ve heard a lot of these stories since the Harvey Weinstein harassment claims hit the news. And you’re about to hear a lot more. Since the weekend, women the internet over have begun posting under the #metoo hashtag and – like the fury over Weinstein’s misdemeanours – this "movement" is only gathering force.

The inescapable whiff oozing off all this is that women are, fundamentally and essentially, victims
“Me too” refers to sexual harassment. It is intended to demonstrate just how widespread this aspect of female experience is. It is also intended to galvanise as many women as possible to “speak out”, to “tell their stories” – curiously dated phrases that echo the consciousness-raising lingo of the 1970s feminist movement.

Except that unlike the Women’s Liberation Movement in the 1970s, this is just hashtag feminism. It’s full of grievance but utterly lacking in solutions or even ideas.

Whereas the likes of Gloria Steinem and Susan Brownmiller – the latter responsible for getting rape laws changed in the US with her unstinting history Against Our Will – were out tirelessly altering centuries-old structures of rank discrimination, women today just need to tell a personal sexual horror story tagged with a catchphrase plucked from an ever-shifting, ever-more-banal lexicon of "solidarity".

So I won’t be joining the #metoo movement. My Facebook and Twitter accounts remain free of all mention of sexual harassment. Instead of “Me too?”, try “not me, sorry folks” on for size. Why this outrageous, socially almost criminal recalcitrance?

First, I’m sick to death of hashtag feminism (and, indeed, hashtag a lot of things). It lacks the intellectual coherence put in place by our femininist foremothers in the 1970s and 80s. It is obsessed with sex and objectification rather than other forms of discrimination. And it doesn’t make the kind of arguments that would actually persuade those who most need the persuasion.

By contrast, men who read, for instance, Brownmiller’s scholarly yet gripping Against Our Will emerged with a whole new arsenal of ideas about gender and humankind at the end. No amount of divisive hashtagging will achieve this. It just validates and entrenches a bitter rhetoric that pits women against men in a way that seems to be merely regressive rather than effective.

#Metoo and its ilk are also futile – who exactly are these hashtags for? Seems to me this is yet another example of indignant performativity preached exclusively through tweets and posts and video clips to the converted rather than through ideas or action that might reach those beyond.

Would the man who appeared in the shadows last night as I walked back from the station (no: I won’t tell you what he said) be impressed by the #metoo movement? He probably hasn’t heard of it.

Nor do I like the inescapable whiff oozing off all this that women are, fundamentally and essentially, victims. Post-Weinstein scandal, it feels as though women are embracing a notion of ourselves in which we are bound by our own biology and men’s biological drives to be perpetually on the receiving end.

[A black and white portrait of Steinem with a cat on her lap and crazy wallpaper everywhere
Gloria Steinem's feminism carried intellectual weight behind it - CREDIT: AP PHOTO]

#Metoo is underpinned ideologically, if it can be said to contain any ideas at all, by the idea of ubiquity. It is meant to shock by showing how widespread the problem is. The implication? Women the world over are victims. But while sexual harassment and far more seriously, sexual assault, is hugely widespread, there is more to life, to womanhood, and to relationships between the sexes, than that.

I don’t like the way hashtags divide people into “Righteous and Aggrieved” and everyone else
I can’t help it. I just don’t like the way hashtag “movements” divide people into “Righteous and Aggrieved” and everyone else.

In this case, are women who strongly feel their lives have not been marred by sexual harassment or even those – gasp – who think there are worse things in the world than lewd comments by randoms or ill-conceived come-ons by older, fatter male bosses, allowed to speak?

What about the women who secretly enjoy unlooked-for attention – including catcalls? And what of the women who find it funny, and snicker, when a man does something sexually inappropriate?

What about women who just cannot remember the last time a man harassed them? What about those who, perhaps overweight, perhaps handicapped, perhaps just not attractive according to the norms of the day, feel painfully invisible, rather than preyed upon?

Are these women also allowed to “speak out”? I’m not sure.

Yes: too many men behave badly towards women because of sex. But hashtag feminism is not the answer. So, until we come up with something more substantive, I’m afraid it’ll be a “no thanks” from me.

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40 years old male from Canada
Mercurian and Venusian First Decan Leo. Third Decan Aquarius Rising.
Posted by rabidtalker
Anyone have access to the rest of this article? everyone wants me to pay money i'd rather spend on dxp points now...


www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/had-enough-metoo-hashtag-feminism-intellectual-laziness/

I've had enough of MeToo 'hashtag feminism' and its intellectual laziness
I was walking home from the station last night – lost in my phone – when…you can tell what’s coming, right? A tale of male predation, in which some bloke did something threatening/inappropriate/disgusting to me.

You’ve heard a lot of these stories since the Harvey Weinstein harassment claims hit the news. And you’re about to hear a lot more. Since the weekend, women the internet over have begun posting under the #metoo hashtag and – like the fury over Weinstein’s misdemeanours – this "movement" is only gathering force.

“Me too” refers to sexual harassment. It is intended to demonstrate just how widespread this aspect of female experience is. It is also intended to galvanise as many women as possible to “speak out”, to “tell their stories” – curiously dated phrases that echo the consciousness-raising lingo of the 1970s feminist movement.

Except that unlike the Women’s Liberation Movement in...

...


You can actually sign up for free and view one Premium article per week.

So, here's a week's worth put to good use:


---------------

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/had-enough-metoo-hashtag-feminism-intellectual-laziness/

(begin quoted material)

I've had enough of MeToo 'hashtag feminism' and its intellectual laziness
ZOE STRIMPEL

I was walking home from the station last night – lost in my phone – when…you can tell what’s coming, right? A tale of male predation, in which some bloke did something threatening/inappropriate/disgusting to me.

You’ve heard a lot of these stories since the Harvey Weinstein harassment claims hit the news. And you’re about to hear a lot more. Since the weekend, women the internet over have begun posting under the #metoo hashtag and – like the fury over Weinstein’s misdemeanours – this "movement" is only gathering force.

The inescapable whiff oozing off all this is that women are, fundamentally and essentially, victims
“Me too” refers to sexual harassment. It is intended to demonstrate just how widespread this aspect of female experience is. It is also intended to galvanise as many women as possible to “speak out”, to “tell their stories” – curiously dated phrases that echo the consciousness-raising lingo of the 1970s feminist movement.

Except that unlike the Women’s Liberation Movement in the 1970s, this is just hashtag feminism. It’s full of grievance but utterly lacking in solutions or even ideas.

Whereas the likes of Gloria Steinem and Susan Brownmiller – the latter responsible for getting rape laws changed in the US with her unstinting history Against Our Will – were out tirelessly altering centuries-old structures of rank discrimination, women today just need to tell a personal sexual horror story tagged with a catchphrase plucked from an ever-shifting, ever-more-banal lexicon of "solidarity".

So I won’t be joining the #metoo movement. My Facebook and Twitter accounts remain free of all mention of sexual harassment. Instead of “Me too?”, try “not me, sorry folks” on for size. Why this outrageous, socially almost criminal recalcitrance?

First, I’m sick to death of hashtag feminism (and, indeed, hashtag a lot of things). It lacks the intellectual coherence put in place by our femininist foremothers in the 1970s and 80s. It is obsessed with sex and objectification rather than other forms of discrimination. And it doesn’t make the kind of arguments that would actually persuade those who most need the persuasion.

By contrast, men who read, for instance, Brownmiller’s scholarly yet gripping Against Our Will emerged with a whole new arsenal of ideas about gender and humankind at the end. No amount of divisive hashtagging will achieve this. It just validates and entrenches a bitter rhetoric that pits women against men in a way that seems to be merely regressive rather than effective.

#Metoo and its ilk are also futile – who exactly are these hashtags for? Seems to me this is yet another example of indignant performativity preached exclusively through tweets and posts and video clips to the converted rather than through ideas or action that might reach those beyond.

Would the man who appeared in the shadows last night as I walked back from the station (no: I won’t tell you what he said) be impressed by the #metoo movement? He probably hasn’t heard of it.

Nor do I like the inescapable whiff oozing off all this that women are, fundamentally and essentially, victims. Post-Weinstein scandal, it feels as though women are embracing a notion of ourselves in which we are bound by our own biology and men’s biological drives to be perpetually on the receiving end.

[A black and white portrait of Steinem with a cat on her lap and crazy wallpaper everywhere
Gloria Steinem's feminism carried intellectual weight behind it - CREDIT: AP PHOTO]

#Metoo is underpinned ideologically, if it can be said to contain any ideas at all, by the idea of ubiquity. It is meant to shock by showing how widespread the problem is. The implication? Women the world over are victims. But while sexual harassment and far more seriously, sexual assault, is hugely widespread, there is more to life, to womanhood, and to relationships between the sexes, than that.

I don’t like the way hashtags divide people into “Righteous and Aggrieved” and everyone else
I can’t help it. I just don’t like the way hashtag “movements” divide people into “Righteous and Aggrieved” and everyone else.

In this case, are women who strongly feel their lives have not been marred by sexual harassment or even those – gasp – who think there are worse things in the world than lewd comments by randoms or ill-conceived come-ons by older, fatter male bosses, allowed to speak?

What about the women who secretly enjoy unlooked-for attention – including catcalls? And what of the women who find it funny, and snicker, when a man does something sexually inappropriate?

What about women who just cannot remember the last time a man harassed them? What about those who, perhaps overweight, perhaps handicapped, perhaps just not attractive according to the norms of the day, feel painfully invisible, rather than preyed upon?

Are these women also allowed to “speak out”? I’m not sure.

Yes: too many men behave badly towards women because of sex. But hashtag feminism is not the answer. So, until we come up with something more substantive, I’m afraid it’ll be a “no thanks” from me.

(end quoted material)
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