Is Truth Subjective?

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Pepi.
Posted by Soul
Posted by Cvurko8


I use to watch a ton of vsauce, and watching that video in the past. I just watched it again to refresh what it was about.

Personally I believe in realism. Sure it's impossible to prove what reality is and what happens after, much like it's impossible to truly explain the reason why we dream. The last 27 years however I ended the day by laying down, and started a new one by waking up. Everything has made sense and been pretty consistent thus far. I never woke up in a different life, and have felt the same memories, pain, and joy the exact same way I always have. Can I prove this to be reality to others outside myself? Not really, but it still doesn't change the fact that everything I've expirence in life has been real to what my entire life has consisted of thus far. I also fully believe it will continue doing so until the day I die. Then who knows what happens after. I'm more of a fan for making things make sense now, and when then comes I'll do the same. I feel the people trying to make things more confusing then they actually are tend to become blind to the matters at hand now. I don't blame them whatsoever though, because the counter of any argument has the potential to make knowledge more refined and efficient.
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I believe in realism too, but it's not an absolute fact.

Death is not an absolute fact too.
Posted by Cvurko8


I use to watch a ton of vsauce, and watching that video in the past. I just watched it again to refresh what it was about.

Personally I believe in realism. Sure it's impossible to prove what reality is and what happens after, much like it's impossible to truly explain the reason why we dream. The last 27 years however I ended the day by laying down, and started a new one by waking up. Everything has made sense and been pretty consistent thus far. I never woke up in a different life, and have felt the same memories, pain, and joy the exact same way I always have. Can I prove this to be reality to others outside myself? Not really, but it still doesn't change the fact that everything I've expirence in life has been real to what my entire life has consisted of thus far. I also fully believe it will continue doing so until the day I die. Then who knows what happens after. I'm more of a fan for making things make sense now, and when then comes I'll do the same. I feel the people trying to make things more confusing then they actually are tend to become blind to the matters at hand now. I don't blame them whatsoever though, because the counter of any argument has the potential to make knowledge more refined and efficient.
Taurus Man's Donnie Brasco
The biggest benefit imo is asking questions.

But I suppose it depends on what you're aim is - adventure and saying risky butter is a personal aim for me. Stuff I can get blackballed for, I'm still not there yet and that's never going to happen in astrology. My family was much closer to doing that on a regular basis in investigative journalism.

You need both the true and false side of what you know, to ask the right questions and unlock what you didn't know before. Lies hold just as much valuable information if not more than the truth. You only need to play the fork in the road game to see.

Anytime we've discovered something we didn't know before, it comes about from overall negative information. Entropy happens on the same basis of negative energy.

More than that, no matter what we know or prove, we'll be long gone and the universe might very possibly still be there after.

So even we adhere to objective truths for a while, what does it matter? It's only one piece of a bigger puzzle. Someone tried to say that believing in subjecting truths is motivated by wanting to be a special snowflake, but that's based on the assumption that the truth is important to anyone. It isn't that important to me. Once I stopped get hung up over true or false, that was a little bit of humility for me in the same way that people say "objective truth" or reality is humbling for them. What does it matter which way you go about it, if the end result is the same?

"The world does not exist for us to know it."
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no it's not, but not everybody have the same intelligence
Posted by xyinsaturn
When does truth fit to be objective/subjective?


You can find the answer in your question (and the words you used / their meaning).

Though, ofc, if you want to complicate things - unnecessarily... That's also an option.

Usually, an answer can only be as good as the question.

27% of the world has homicidal tendencies... the rest are just victims
" I do not know what I may appear to the world, but to myself I seem to have been only like a boy playing on the sea-shore, and diverting myself in now and then finding a smoother pebble or a prettier shell than ordinary, whilst the great ocean of truth lay all undiscovered before me.
When does truth fit to be objective/subjective?
Posted by Terramine
Posted by xyinsaturn
Other people don't think it's wrong.
Oh noez! Oh gee oh my. What ever shall I do? All this mountain of evidence and logic that says it's wrong, goes down the drain. All because there are people who have a different opinion. Oh noooo. Oh gosh.

P.S: You realize I could've used "sex with children" as the example instead, and I doubt you'd dare to say what you just did.
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Lol such aqua/libra vibe 💕
This question is really obscure. Truth about what?
Pepi.
Posted by Soul
Posted by Cvurko8
Posted by Soul
Posted by xyinsaturn
Posted by Soul
Nope. There is only truth. After you've sifted through every single lie at the very end of the chain is a solid truth. It's like fixing a car or computer. It's just a process of elimination till there is absolutely nothing left except the one and only problem making it all malfunction.


Do you think we can find absolute truth ifbwe work as a collective


We already have. It's none other then death. Hear me out for a minute. Something like death is an absolute truth. We know this because we all witness it and view it happening around us. It's guaranteed, and nothing can stop it. It's just simple and basic knowledge so we don't think to deeply into it. Other things in life are too complex for our human minds to figure out. That and humans like to view an object from all sides rather then just 1. Because of this we somewhat freak out when things don't make sense, and make the most logical decision on a situation depending on what we've analyzed and what other people think. Back to the basics though death is an absolute truth. Everyone is 100% guaranteed die eventually. That is unless science progresses to a point humans make a way to actually become immortal. Dammit I'm doing it again! I'm taking my point and completely proving it wrong as I go. Curse you infinite information and knowledge!



Even now death is uncertain. There is the theory of reincarnation combined with philosophers, like Descartes, presenting us with the possibility that the human body may not exist from a broader perspective than that of humans and our dimension.


I'm fully for believing in reincarnation, the spirit, and God. I was just keeping it on a physical level of now and keeping afterlife out of the equation. For now when I get cut it hurts and I feel pain, and if I bleed our I die. As of now that is still a law of nature.

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Watch the video i posted after i quoted you
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Posted by Soul
Posted by Terramine
Posted by Soul
That is unless science progresses to a point humans make a way to actually become immortal.
This is probably the smartest thing you've ever said. However, you definitely exaggerate because while you did do a complete 180 flip. It wasn't until about 4/5ths of the way down. You wrote a huge ass paragraph, basically going over the exact opposite. So if I managed to stop 3/5ths of the way there thinking I got the gist of what you were going to say. Well... shrug.


Truth be told I though about it all day. Just trying to find a way to find an absolute truth. Then I thought about death. I started thinking about how death is an absolute truth because it's guaranteed.


death may be a certainty from our point of view and this again for an incredibly long time, despite the greatest advancements of science, but
"That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die"
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Death can't die. Things are destined to die, but death itself is an important fundamental to the balance of this universe. I believe humans on this earth will become extinct long before we progress far into the universe or become immortal. Maybe our spirit or energy will, but our message as of now won't. There is a balance in this universe. From the nebuals making stars to the black holes sucking it all up there is a perfect balance. It can be found anywhere. With darkness and light, hot and cold, hate and love, truth and lies, or life and death. Every single thing needs an opposite for everything else to exist in the first place. Without one the other will cease to exist.

Posted by Cvurko8
Posted by Soul
Posted by xyinsaturn
Posted by Soul
Nope. There is only truth. After you've sifted through every single lie at the very end of the chain is a solid truth. It's like fixing a car or computer. It's just a process of elimination till there is absolutely nothing left except the one and only problem making it all malfunction.


Do you think we can find absolute truth ifbwe work as a collective


We already have. It's none other then death. Hear me out for a minute. Something like death is an absolute truth. We know this because we all witness it and view it happening around us. It's guaranteed, and nothing can stop it. It's just simple and basic knowledge so we don't think to deeply into it. Other things in life are too complex for our human minds to figure out. That and humans like to view an object from all sides rather then just 1. Because of this we somewhat freak out when things don't make sense, and make the most logical decision on a situation depending on what we've analyzed and what other people think. Back to the basics though death is an absolute truth. Everyone is 100% guaranteed die eventually. That is unless science progresses to a point humans make a way to actually become immortal. Dammit I'm doing it again! I'm taking my point and completely proving it wrong as I go. Curse you infinite information and knowledge!



Even now death is uncertain. There is the theory of reincarnation combined with philosophers, like Descartes, presenting us with the possibility that the human body may not exist from a broader perspective than that of humans and our dimension.
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I'm fully for believing in reincarnation, the spirit, and God. I was just keeping it on a physical level of now and keeping afterlife out of the equation. For now when I get cut it hurts and I feel pain, and if I bleed our I die. As of now that is still a law of nature.

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You can't spell wenstein without einstein
Posted by Soul
Posted by Terramine
Posted by Soul
That is unless science progresses to a point humans make a way to actually become immortal.
This is probably the smartest thing you've ever said. However, you definitely exaggerate because while you did do a complete 180 flip. It wasn't until about 4/5ths of the way down. You wrote a huge ass paragraph, basically going over the exact opposite. So if I managed to stop 3/5ths of the way there thinking I got the gist of what you were going to say. Well... shrug.


Truth be told I though about it all day. Just trying to find a way to find an absolute truth. Then I thought about death. I started thinking about how death is an absolute truth because it's guaranteed.
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death may be a certainty from our point of view and this again for an incredibly long time, despite the greatest advancements of science, but
"That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die"
Pepi.
Posted by Soul
Posted by xyinsaturn
Posted by Soul
Nope. There is only truth. After you've sifted through every single lie at the very end of the chain is a solid truth. It's like fixing a car or computer. It's just a process of elimination till there is absolutely nothing left except the one and only problem making it all malfunction.


Do you think we can find absolute truth ifbwe work as a collective


We already have. It's none other then death. Hear me out for a minute. Something like death is an absolute truth. We know this because we all witness it and view it happening around us. It's guaranteed, and nothing can stop it. It's just simple and basic knowledge so we don't think to deeply into it. Other things in life are too complex for our human minds to figure out. That and humans like to view an object from all sides rather then just 1. Because of this we somewhat freak out when things don't make sense, and make the most logical decision on a situation depending on what we've analyzed and what other people think. Back to the basics though death is an absolute truth. Everyone is 100% guaranteed die eventually. That is unless science progresses to a point humans make a way to actually become immortal. Dammit I'm doing it again! I'm taking my point and completely proving it wrong as I go. Curse you infinite information and knowledge!

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Even now death is uncertain. There is the theory of reincarnation combined with philosophers, like Descartes, presenting us with the possibility that the human body may not exist from a broader perspective than that of humans and our dimension.
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