Morality about Insects

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So obviously it's immoral to harm any living being including animals (I even go as far as plants too) but one that I've been struggling with is insects.

I don't like seeing insects at home or around me so will kill them. But every time I do so I feel super guilty. Like just because they're small and crawly doesn't mean they deserve any less compassion than big and fury.

Makes me sad... so any other solutions? I can try to catch them and let them go outside.

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Down here we have big roaches that come in from outside. These things are like a couple inches. Of course you dont want roaches in your house so its auto raid time when I see them. But spiders I try to put outside. even beetles and basically everything else I try to put outside.


Yes good point... but the big roaches might be disgusting but should be caught and let go too...but by whom— That's the question....



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I live in a tropical wood and I spend my time killing bugs and rats, so many that after a while you get PTSD, You spend so long tracking pests that you get used to how they think and you start seing them as conscious beings and it becomes more difficult to kill them.

But it is necessary, if you don't kill the pests, there will be someone else paid to do it for you, but don't believe that you are innocent.

Some of the bugs you can just let go though, as long as they're not of the type that reproduces a lot.

But spiders, rats, and cockroaches, you have to kill them or they'll make your home unsafe.
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I live in a tropical wood and I spend my time killing bugs and rats, so many that after a while you get PTSD, You spend so long tracking pests that you get used to how they think and you start seing them as conscious beings and it becomes more difficult to kill them. But it is necessary, if you don't kill the pests, there will be someone else paid to do it for you, but don't believe that you are innocent.


that is hilarious...I feel bad for them too....even if they are just little robots made out of chitin w/no consciousness, they still have aesthetic value to me, are fairly complex....took the universe billions of years to make them, etc...
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I live in a tropical wood and I spend my time killing bugs and rats, so many that after a while you get PTSD, You spend so long tracking pests that you get used to how they think and you start seing them as conscious beings and it becomes more difficult to kill them. But it is necessary, if you don't kill the pests, there will be someone else paid to do it for you, but don't believe that you are innocent.


that is hilarious...I feel bad for them too....even if they are just little robots made out of chitin w/no consciousness, they still have aesthetic value to me, are fairly complex....took the universe billions of years to make them, etc...
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still after that consciousness questioning huh?
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I live in a tropical wood and I spend my time killing bugs and rats, so many that after a while you get PTSD, You spend so long tracking pests that you get used to how they think and you start seing them as conscious beings and it becomes more difficult to kill them. But it is necessary, if you don't kill the pests, there will be someone else paid to do it for you, but don't believe that you are innocent.


that is hilarious...I feel bad for them too....even if they are just little robots made out of chitin w/no consciousness, they still have aesthetic value to me, are fairly complex....took the universe billions of years to make them, etc...

still after that consciousness questioning huh?
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lol...I guess it relates insomuch as people think its required to experience pain - which is usually a main ethical question in treatment of other life forms...
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I live in a tropical wood and I spend my time killing bugs and rats, so many that after a while you get PTSD, You spend so long tracking pests that you get used to how they think and you start seing them as conscious beings and it becomes more difficult to kill them. But it is necessary, if you don't kill the pests, there will be someone else paid to do it for you, but don't believe that you are innocent.


that is hilarious...I feel bad for them too....even if they are just little robots made out of chitin w/no consciousness, they still have aesthetic value to me, are fairly complex....took the universe billions of years to make them, etc...
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how do you know they don't have consciousness? Do they feel in pain when hurt?
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I live in a tropical wood and I spend my time killing bugs and rats, so many that after a while you get PTSD, You spend so long tracking pests that you get used to how they think and you start seing them as conscious beings and it becomes more difficult to kill them. But it is necessary, if you don't kill the pests, there will be someone else paid to do it for you, but don't believe that you are innocent.


that is hilarious...I feel bad for them too....even if they are just little robots made out of chitin w/no consciousness, they still have aesthetic value to me, are fairly complex....took the universe billions of years to make them, etc...


how do you know they don't have consciousness? Do they feel in pain when hurt?
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I don't...that's why I said "even if" but I really wasn't assuming....there's actually a debate around this (the pain issue):

http://relaximanentomologist.tumblr.com/post/51301520453/do-insects-feel-pain

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I live in a tropical wood and I spend my time killing bugs and rats, so many that after a while you get PTSD, You spend so long tracking pests that you get used to how they think and you start seing them as conscious beings and it becomes more difficult to kill them. But it is necessary, if you don't kill the pests, there will be someone else paid to do it for you, but don't believe that you are innocent.


that is hilarious...I feel bad for them too....even if they are just little robots made out of chitin w/no consciousness, they still have aesthetic value to me, are fairly complex....took the universe billions of years to make them, etc...

still after that consciousness questioning huh?


lol...I guess it relates insomuch as people think its required to experience pain - which is usually a main ethical question in treatment of other life forms...
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I think most animals feel pain.

Plants must not feel pain because they can't move or react so pain is a useless information to them.

It's possible that pain is not as strong in cockroaches because they keep trying even after they're squashed.

But they must feel some kind of pain at least and also fear.
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I live in a tropical wood and I spend my time killing bugs and rats, so many that after a while you get PTSD, You spend so long tracking pests that you get used to how they think and you start seing them as conscious beings and it becomes more difficult to kill them. But it is necessary, if you don't kill the pests, there will be someone else paid to do it for you, but don't believe that you are innocent.


that is hilarious...I feel bad for them too....even if they are just little robots made out of chitin w/no consciousness, they still have aesthetic value to me, are fairly complex....took the universe billions of years to make them, etc...


how do you know they don't have consciousness? Do they feel in pain when hurt?


I don't...that's why I said "even if" but I really wasn't assuming....there's actually a debate around this (the pain issue):

http://relaximanentomologist.tumblr.com/post/51301520453/do-insects-feel-pain

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I don't think this is even a valid subject for debate. Because unless you know 100% it's dangerous to assume or event want to assume otherwise.
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I live in a tropical wood and I spend my time killing bugs and rats, so many that after a while you get PTSD, You spend so long tracking pests that you get used to how they think and you start seing them as conscious beings and it becomes more difficult to kill them. But it is necessary, if you don't kill the pests, there will be someone else paid to do it for you, but don't believe that you are innocent.


that is hilarious...I feel bad for them too....even if they are just little robots made out of chitin w/no consciousness, they still have aesthetic value to me, are fairly complex....took the universe billions of years to make them, etc...

still after that consciousness questioning huh?


lol...I guess it relates insomuch as people think its required to experience pain - which is usually a main ethical question in treatment of other life forms...

I think most animals feel pain.

Plants must not feel pain because they can't move or react so pain is a useless information to them.

It's possible that pain is not as strong in cockroaches because they keep trying even after they're squashed.

But they must feel some kind of pain at least and also fear.
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I tend to agree, even if its not fullblown conscious torment like we can experience, there's probably some precursor there for it where they sense it on some level exactly for that reason - because its a benefit to them, and we often occupy the same environments w/the similar selective pressures...
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I live in a tropical wood and I spend my time killing bugs and rats, so many that after a while you get PTSD, You spend so long tracking pests that you get used to how they think and you start seing them as conscious beings and it becomes more difficult to kill them. But it is necessary, if you don't kill the pests, there will be someone else paid to do it for you, but don't believe that you are innocent.


that is hilarious...I feel bad for them too....even if they are just little robots made out of chitin w/no consciousness, they still have aesthetic value to me, are fairly complex....took the universe billions of years to make them, etc...


how do you know they don't have consciousness? Do they feel in pain when hurt?


I don't...that's why I said "even if" but I really wasn't assuming....there's actually a debate around this (the pain issue):

http://relaximanentomologist.tumblr.com/post/51301520453/do-insects-feel-pain




I don't think this is even a valid subject for debate. Because unless you know 100% it's dangerous to assume or event want to assume otherwise.
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I think it would be nice to know....but as I was hinting at, I just try not to kill them as much as I can, bc to me, I think they're interesting/beautiful....plus you hear these stories about the Buddhist monks who won't do it, and it makes me feel spiritual, like the Universe is smiling on me when I spare a bug....
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I live in a tropical wood and I spend my time killing bugs and rats, so many that after a while you get PTSD, You spend so long tracking pests that you get used to how they think and you start seing them as conscious beings and it becomes more difficult to kill them. But it is necessary, if you don't kill the pests, there will be someone else paid to do it for you, but don't believe that you are innocent.


that is hilarious...I feel bad for them too....even if they are just little robots made out of chitin w/no consciousness, they still have aesthetic value to me, are fairly complex....took the universe billions of years to make them, etc...


how do you know they don't have consciousness? Do they feel in pain when hurt?


I don't...that's why I said "even if" but I really wasn't assuming....there's actually a debate around this (the pain issue):

http://relaximanentomologist.tumblr.com/post/51301520453/do-insects-feel-pain




I don't think this is even a valid subject for debate. Because unless you know 100% it's dangerous to assume or event want to assume otherwise.


I think it would be nice to know....but as I was hinting at, I just try not to kill them as much as I can, bc to me, I think they're interesting/beautiful....plus you hear these stories about the Buddhist monks who won't do it, and it makes me feel spiritual, like the Universe is smiling on me when I spare a bug....
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Yeah exactly...I don't want to do it but sometimes my "disgust" threshold kicks in. I'm going to try to not kill them and find other ways.

If you think about it that IF most of humanity wanted to be kind and compassionate, we would put in more R&D towards humanitarian ways to shield our homes from insects or ways to get rid of them without harming.

But instead we come up with quick solutions such as raid, mouse traps etc.
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You realize you are swallowing mad insects when you sleep, right?

Also in processed foods.


You realize there's something called intentions and willed action, right?


So now you know each time you reach for the pringles, that’s 2/3rds of a spider right there.

#spiderlivesmattertoo
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It's better to focus your energy on your intentions.
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So obviously it's immoral to harm any living being including animals


Huh? Since when.

Morality is subjective you know. And many animals wouldn’t exist if they weren’t bred for human consumption aka the slaughterhouse.

Not to mention that animals eat insects. So do some plants. Google pitcher plant, that’s some evil shit right there. Digests insects like that star wars monster digesting peeps for months on end.
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I live in a tropical wood and I spend my time killing bugs and rats, so many that after a while you get PTSD, You spend so long tracking pests that you get used to how they think and you start seing them as conscious beings and it becomes more difficult to kill them. But it is necessary, if you don't kill the pests, there will be someone else paid to do it for you, but don't believe that you are innocent.


that is hilarious...I feel bad for them too....even if they are just little robots made out of chitin w/no consciousness, they still have aesthetic value to me, are fairly complex....took the universe billions of years to make them, etc...

still after that consciousness questioning huh?


lol...I guess it relates insomuch as people think its required to experience pain - which is usually a main ethical question in treatment of other life forms...

I think most animals feel pain.

Plants must not feel pain because they can't move or react so pain is a useless information to them.

It's possible that pain is not as strong in cockroaches because they keep trying even after they're squashed.

But they must feel some kind of pain at least and also fear.


I tend to agree, even if its not fullblown conscious torment like we can experience, there's probably some precursor there for it where they sense it on some level exactly for that reason - because its a benefit to them, and we often occupy the same environments w/the similar selective pressures...
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so scientific!

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So obviously it's immoral to harm any living being including animals


Huh? Since when.

Morality is subjective you know. And many animals wouldn’t exist if they weren’t bred for human consumption aka the slaughterhouse.

Not to mention that animals eat insects. So do some plants. Google pitcher plant, that’s some evil shit right there. Digests insects like that star wars monster digesting peeps for months on end.


I think its immoral in the sense of knowing how it feels to be assaulted or have violence perpetrated on us or someone trying to make some "feel low" or hurt feelings even. There are some things we know dont feel good and people even can feel regret for being perpetrators of these types of things. I think maturity can be a major factor. So if these things feel bad and wrong then it goes into not doing them. I agree it ties into animals killed for food and stuff big reason I have cut out beef and chicken and going alont that way also the gross disgusting factor.
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Insects don’t have the brain function power to ‘feel low’. But ok.
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So obviously it's immoral to harm any living being including animals


Huh? Since when.

Morality is subjective you know. And many animals wouldn’t exist if they weren’t bred for human consumption aka the slaughterhouse.

Not to mention that animals eat insects. So do some plants. Google pitcher plant, that’s some evil shit right there. Digests insects like that star wars monster digesting peeps for months on end.
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I think intention matters in all cases.
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So obviously it's immoral to harm any living being including animals


Huh? Since when.

Morality is subjective you know. And many animals wouldn’t exist if they weren’t bred for human consumption aka the slaughterhouse.

Not to mention that animals eat insects. So do some plants. Google pitcher plant, that’s some evil shit right there. Digests insects like that star wars monster digesting peeps for months on end.


I think its immoral in the sense of knowing how it feels to be assaulted or have violence perpetrated on us or someone trying to make some "feel low" or hurt feelings even. There are some things we know dont feel good and people even can feel regret for being perpetrators of these types of things. I think maturity can be a major factor. So if these things feel bad and wrong then it goes into not doing them. I agree it ties into animals killed for food and stuff big reason I have cut out beef and chicken and going alont that way also the gross disgusting factor.


Insects don’t have the brain function power to ‘feel low’. But ok.


You werent just talking about insects you mentioned other animals too. But I was just speaking on the morality aspect. Just the feelings you have about it can be tied to "morality". Especially with the meat eating. It got pretty overpowering every time I ate some I was thinking about the "morality" and implications. Not complete vegetarian now but have cut out what I mentioned.
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You all are such softies 😂 I’m like a psychopath in comparison. I will kill all your spiders for you.
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So obviously it's immoral to harm any living being including animals


Huh? Since when.

Morality is subjective you know. And many animals wouldn’t exist if they weren’t bred for human consumption aka the slaughterhouse.

Not to mention that animals eat insects. So do some plants. Google pitcher plant, that’s some evil shit right there. Digests insects like that star wars monster digesting peeps for months on end.


I think its immoral in the sense of knowing how it feels to be assaulted or have violence perpetrated on us or someone trying to make some "feel low" or hurt feelings even. There are some things we know dont feel good and people even can feel regret for being perpetrators of these types of things. I think maturity can be a major factor. So if these things feel bad and wrong then it goes into not doing them. I agree it ties into animals killed for food and stuff big reason I have cut out beef and chicken and going alont that way also the gross disgusting factor.


Insects don’t have the brain function power to ‘feel low’. But ok.
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Sometimes it does not even have to be about pain but about their existence and what gives us the right to take their existence away for our superficial reasonings.
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So obviously it's immoral to harm any living being including animals


Huh? Since when.

Morality is subjective you know. And many animals wouldn’t exist if they weren’t bred for human consumption aka the slaughterhouse.

Not to mention that animals eat insects. So do some plants. Google pitcher plant, that’s some evil shit right there. Digests insects like that star wars monster digesting peeps for months on end.


I think intention matters in all cases.
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“Holy fuck a spider”

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“Ewww this annoying ass fly”

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“Get outta here gnat”

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Only kids training to be serial killers pull the wings off insects. And 8th grade science classes
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So obviously it's immoral to harm any living being including animals


Huh? Since when.

Morality is subjective you know. And many animals wouldn’t exist if they weren’t bred for human consumption aka the slaughterhouse.

Not to mention that animals eat insects. So do some plants. Google pitcher plant, that’s some evil shit right there. Digests insects like that star wars monster digesting peeps for months on end.


I think its immoral in the sense of knowing how it feels to be assaulted or have violence perpetrated on us or someone trying to make some "feel low" or hurt feelings even. There are some things we know dont feel good and people even can feel regret for being perpetrators of these types of things. I think maturity can be a major factor. So if these things feel bad and wrong then it goes into not doing them. I agree it ties into animals killed for food and stuff big reason I have cut out beef and chicken and going alont that way also the gross disgusting factor.


Insects don’t have the brain function power to ‘feel low’. But ok.


You werent just talking about insects you mentioned other animals too. But I was just speaking on the morality aspect. Just the feelings you have about it can be tied to "morality". Especially with the meat eating. It got pretty overpowering every time I ate some I was thinking about the "morality" and implications. Not complete vegetarian now but have cut out what I mentioned.


You all are such softies 😂 I’m like a psychopath in comparison. I will kill all your spiders for you.
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that defeats the purpose because the whole point is not to harm. In fact I would encourage everyone to try to find alternative ways and try to avoid harming them as much as possible.

Let's practice this together...

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So obviously it's immoral to harm any living being including animals


Huh? Since when.

Morality is subjective you know. And many animals wouldn’t exist if they weren’t bred for human consumption aka the slaughterhouse.

Not to mention that animals eat insects. So do some plants. Google pitcher plant, that’s some evil shit right there. Digests insects like that star wars monster digesting peeps for months on end.


I think its immoral in the sense of knowing how it feels to be assaulted or have violence perpetrated on us or someone trying to make some "feel low" or hurt feelings even. There are some things we know dont feel good and people even can feel regret for being perpetrators of these types of things. I think maturity can be a major factor. So if these things feel bad and wrong then it goes into not doing them. I agree it ties into animals killed for food and stuff big reason I have cut out beef and chicken and going alont that way also the gross disgusting factor.


Insects don’t have the brain function power to ‘feel low’. But ok.


You werent just talking about insects you mentioned other animals too. But I was just speaking on the morality aspect. Just the feelings you have about it can be tied to "morality". Especially with the meat eating. It got pretty overpowering every time I ate some I was thinking about the "morality" and implications. Not complete vegetarian now but have cut out what I mentioned.


You all are such softies 😂 I’m like a psychopath in comparison. I will kill all your spiders for you.


that defeats the purpose because the whole point is not to harm. In fact I would encourage everyone to try to find alternative ways and try to avoid harming them as much as possible.

Let's practice this together...

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Nawww hard pass.

But you do you.

And I’ll do me, aka killing des bugs
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So obviously it's immoral to harm any living being including animals


Huh? Since when.

Morality is subjective you know. And many animals wouldn’t exist if they weren’t bred for human consumption aka the slaughterhouse.

Not to mention that animals eat insects. So do some plants. Google pitcher plant, that’s some evil shit right there. Digests insects like that star wars monster digesting peeps for months on end.


I think its immoral in the sense of knowing how it feels to be assaulted or have violence perpetrated on us or someone trying to make some "feel low" or hurt feelings even. There are some things we know dont feel good and people even can feel regret for being perpetrators of these types of things. I think maturity can be a major factor. So if these things feel bad and wrong then it goes into not doing them. I agree it ties into animals killed for food and stuff big reason I have cut out beef and chicken and going alont that way also the gross disgusting factor.


Insects don’t have the brain function power to ‘feel low’. But ok.


You werent just talking about insects you mentioned other animals too. But I was just speaking on the morality aspect. Just the feelings you have about it can be tied to "morality". Especially with the meat eating. It got pretty overpowering every time I ate some I was thinking about the "morality" and implications. Not complete vegetarian now but have cut out what I mentioned.


You all are such softies 😂 I’m like a psychopath in comparison. I will kill all your spiders for you.


that defeats the purpose because the whole point is not to harm. In fact I would encourage everyone to try to find alternative ways and try to avoid harming them as much as possible.

Let's practice this together...

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Nawww hard pass.

But you do you.

And I’ll do me, aka killing des bugs
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Ok. Creating a more kind and compassionate world doesn't mean passing on the killing to other people though. It's about having a positive impact.
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So obviously it's immoral to harm any living being including animals


Huh? Since when.

Morality is subjective you know. And many animals wouldn’t exist if they weren’t bred for human consumption aka the slaughterhouse.

Not to mention that animals eat insects. So do some plants. Google pitcher plant, that’s some evil shit right there. Digests insects like that star wars monster digesting peeps for months on end.


I think its immoral in the sense of knowing how it feels to be assaulted or have violence perpetrated on us or someone trying to make some "feel low" or hurt feelings even. There are some things we know dont feel good and people even can feel regret for being perpetrators of these types of things. I think maturity can be a major factor. So if these things feel bad and wrong then it goes into not doing them. I agree it ties into animals killed for food and stuff big reason I have cut out beef and chicken and going alont that way also the gross disgusting factor.


Insects don’t have the brain function power to ‘feel low’. But ok.


You werent just talking about insects you mentioned other animals too. But I was just speaking on the morality aspect. Just the feelings you have about it can be tied to "morality". Especially with the meat eating. It got pretty overpowering every time I ate some I was thinking about the "morality" and implications. Not complete vegetarian now but have cut out what I mentioned.


You all are such softies 😂 I’m like a psychopath in comparison. I will kill all your spiders for you.


that defeats the purpose because the whole point is not to harm. In fact I would encourage everyone to try to find alternative ways and try to avoid harming them as much as possible.

Let's practice this together...

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Nawww hard pass.

But you do you.

And I’ll do me, aka killing des bugs


Ok. Creating a more kind and compassionate world doesn't mean passing on the killing to other people though. It's about having a positive impact.
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Come on dude.

Compassionate world, really? Your out here talking about morality of bugs. Lol
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So obviously it's immoral to harm any living being including animals


Huh? Since when.

Morality is subjective you know. And many animals wouldn’t exist if they weren’t bred for human consumption aka the slaughterhouse.

Not to mention that animals eat insects. So do some plants. Google pitcher plant, that’s some evil shit right there. Digests insects like that star wars monster digesting peeps for months on end.


I think its immoral in the sense of knowing how it feels to be assaulted or have violence perpetrated on us or someone trying to make some "feel low" or hurt feelings even. There are some things we know dont feel good and people even can feel regret for being perpetrators of these types of things. I think maturity can be a major factor. So if these things feel bad and wrong then it goes into not doing them. I agree it ties into animals killed for food and stuff big reason I have cut out beef and chicken and going alont that way also the gross disgusting factor.


Insects don’t have the brain function power to ‘feel low’. But ok.


You werent just talking about insects you mentioned other animals too. But I was just speaking on the morality aspect. Just the feelings you have about it can be tied to "morality". Especially with the meat eating. It got pretty overpowering every time I ate some I was thinking about the "morality" and implications. Not complete vegetarian now but have cut out what I mentioned.


You all are such softies 😂 I’m like a psychopath in comparison. I will kill all your spiders for you.


that defeats the purpose because the whole point is not to harm. In fact I would encourage everyone to try to find alternative ways and try to avoid harming them as much as possible.

Let's practice this together...

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Nawww hard pass.

But you do you.

And I’ll do me, aka killing des bugs


Ok. Creating a more kind and compassionate world doesn't mean passing on the killing to other people though. It's about having a positive impact.


Come on dude.

Compassionate world, really? Your out here talking about morality of bugs. Lol
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What's wrong with bugs? Why aren't they important too?
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So obviously it's immoral to harm any living being including animals


Huh? Since when.

Morality is subjective you know. And many animals wouldn’t exist if they weren’t bred for human consumption aka the slaughterhouse.

Not to mention that animals eat insects. So do some plants. Google pitcher plant, that’s some evil shit right there. Digests insects like that star wars monster digesting peeps for months on end.


I think its immoral in the sense of knowing how it feels to be assaulted or have violence perpetrated on us or someone trying to make some "feel low" or hurt feelings even. There are some things we know dont feel good and people even can feel regret for being perpetrators of these types of things. I think maturity can be a major factor. So if these things feel bad and wrong then it goes into not doing them. I agree it ties into animals killed for food and stuff big reason I have cut out beef and chicken and going alont that way also the gross disgusting factor.


Insects don’t have the brain function power to ‘feel low’. But ok.


You werent just talking about insects you mentioned other animals too. But I was just speaking on the morality aspect. Just the feelings you have about it can be tied to "morality". Especially with the meat eating. It got pretty overpowering every time I ate some I was thinking about the "morality" and implications. Not complete vegetarian now but have cut out what I mentioned.


You all are such softies 😂 I’m like a psychopath in comparison. I will kill all your spiders for you.


that defeats the purpose because the whole point is not to harm. In fact I would encourage everyone to try to find alternative ways and try to avoid harming them as much as possible.

Let's practice this together...

Image Not Found


Nawww hard pass.

But you do you.

And I’ll do me, aka killing des bugs


Ok. Creating a more kind and compassionate world doesn't mean passing on the killing to other people though. It's about having a positive impact.


Come on dude.

Compassionate world, really? Your out here talking about morality of bugs. Lol


What's wrong with bugs? Why aren't they important too?
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Where do I start 😂
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Always the same arguments..

"oh look, it's ugly, we should kill it"

"it's only an insect"

"it's dangerous, it can sting me"

would you kill a human being because of those reasons ?



''They bring filth and destruction so there really isn't a choice''

Human beings are the most destructive species of the universe for all i know, we're basically cancer to everything around us so if i follow this logic most of people should die.

You always have a choice. you just decide to abuse of your power and kill them for your comfort and then make excuses to yourself/ask for validation to not feel guilty, this is how our shitty brain works.

In conclusion we are no one to decide what lives or die.