FIFA World Cup Russia 2018 ⚽

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  • Posted by Impulsv
    I said this whole thing is stupid
    Imagine if we focused as much as this on world hunger the real issues lol
    Yes this whole FIFA is stupid I said it!

    Yeah, like Scorpios REALLY focus more on real issues than their fragile egos. LMAO!!!
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  • Posted by Impulsv
    I said this whole thing is stupid
    Imagine if we focused as much as this on world hunger the real issues lol
    Yes this whole FIFA is stupid I said it!


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    I said this whole thing is stupid
    Imagine if we focused as much as this on world hunger the real issues lol
    Yes this whole FIFA is stupid I said it!
  • Victorious
    Defeat is declared not when you fall but when you refuse to stand again.
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    The England team are a bunch of lazy pansies. France showed them how it's done.

    Well done, France!


    A bit harsh?

    They have 6 genuine world class players.

    England have 1.

    Southgate set his team up incorrectly for Croatia. They were undone tactically.

    treetrunk the England team.

    Always as useless as they've always been.

    We only got this far because we got lucky in the draw. France didn't get lucky, toughened up throughout the tournament and never crumbled at the first sign of REAL adversity.

    England should start investing in nurturing new talent, instead of throwing away tens of millions of pounds on foreign transfers. Until the England clubs realise this, we'll always suck in the international arena...


    We had good young talent at the world cup. Pickford and Trippier were outstanding. We were treetrunked as we didn't have a proper passer (ie Shelvey) or someone who can drive the ball and ride out tackles (ie Wilshere). The closest player we had to this was kept on the bench most the time.

    Certainly players were poor all tournament and should in no way have started so many games.

    Teams adjusted their tactics during the match which neutralised us. (we started pretty much every game incredibly dominant and very attacking for the opening 20mins) After which we were not able to regain the same level of dominance or intensity and we did not ever offer any variation to our game-plan.

    The manager is responsible for all of the above.

    Blaming the manager is lame. While he may be partly responsible, the onus was on the players to get the job done. They didn't.


    If the midfield is being overrun by superior technical players who are able consistently to feed into dangerous areas, most managers will look to solidify the midfield. We didn't do that.

    Hard graft and a never give up attitude only go so far. You need tactical nous too.

    I mean we use to have Gerrard and Cole running forever and the team would still get turned over.

    I'm not going to argue with that, as I'm not a football fan. However, it's the same butter every single time with a different excuse. It gets very annoying when England can't get its act together. The only reason we got so far was because we were in the easiest of the two draws.

    Seriously, how many times can you blame just the manager?


    I mean if you want to call the players lazy who am I to try to use logic or any type of analysis to try to dissuade you.

    By all means beat on the drum that there are no players of quality coming through despite our under 21s and under 17s winning the world cup.

    I like Southgate and I believe the team did overachieve, but we got to a semi final, so I'm damn happy about it. Yes we were lucky so what? We played amazing against Sweden, we managed to survive Colombia's attempts to kick us apart and beat them in penalties.
    As to why I keep blaming the manager? I think we could have beaten Croatia and as such I feel aggrieved.
    He fielded players that shouldn't have played and he refused to adjust his tactics when Crotia made some tweaks and became dominant. It also looks like we were instructed to back off once we scored. ALL ARE DOWN TO THE MANAGER.

    Christ it's like talking to a wall.

    We're done.

    Just because you've failed to persuade me doesn't mean that I'm a wall, it just means you've failed to convince me.

    You're basically saying that the players are subservient to the manager and can't use their own freewill. The players were playing for their country and NOT their manager. Where's their common sense? Where's their pride? Where's their raw passion? If the England team had any of that, they would have adapted to the match accordingly, in spite of what their manager told them to do.

    But thanks for confirming (more than once) that the English players are nothing more than complete and utter [overpaid] tools...

    *throws rattle back into your pram*
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    Shows that you know treetrunk all about football. The team are there to execute the manager's gameplan.
  • Posted by Victorious
    Posted by Gobby
    Posted by Victorious
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    Posted by Victorious
    Posted by Gobby
    Posted by Victorious
    Posted by Gobby
    The England team are a bunch of lazy pansies. France showed them how it's done.

    Well done, France!


    A bit harsh?

    They have 6 genuine world class players.

    England have 1.

    Southgate set his team up incorrectly for Croatia. They were undone tactically.

    treetrunk the England team.

    Always as useless as they've always been.

    We only got this far because we got lucky in the draw. France didn't get lucky, toughened up throughout the tournament and never crumbled at the first sign of REAL adversity.

    England should start investing in nurturing new talent, instead of throwing away tens of millions of pounds on foreign transfers. Until the England clubs realise this, we'll always suck in the international arena...


    We had good young talent at the world cup. Pickford and Trippier were outstanding. We were treetrunked as we didn't have a proper passer (ie Shelvey) or someone who can drive the ball and ride out tackles (ie Wilshere). The closest player we had to this was kept on the bench most the time.

    Certainly players were poor all tournament and should in no way have started so many games.

    Teams adjusted their tactics during the match which neutralised us. (we started pretty much every game incredibly dominant and very attacking for the opening 20mins) After which we were not able to regain the same level of dominance or intensity and we did not ever offer any variation to our game-plan.

    The manager is responsible for all of the above.

    Blaming the manager is lame. While he may be partly responsible, the onus was on the players to get the job done. They didn't.


    If the midfield is being overrun by superior technical players who are able consistently to feed into dangerous areas, most managers will look to solidify the midfield. We didn't do that.

    Hard graft and a never give up attitude only go so far. You need tactical nous too.

    I mean we use to have Gerrard and Cole running forever and the team would still get turned over.

    I'm not going to argue with that, as I'm not a football fan. However, it's the same butter every single time with a different excuse. It gets very annoying when England can't get its act together. The only reason we got so far was because we were in the easiest of the two draws.

    Seriously, how many times can you blame just the manager?


    I mean if you want to call the players lazy who am I to try to use logic or any type of analysis to try to dissuade you.

    By all means beat on the drum that there are no players of quality coming through despite our under 21s and under 17s winning the world cup.

    I like Southgate and I believe the team did overachieve, but we got to a semi final, so I'm damn happy about it. Yes we were lucky so what? We played amazing against Sweden, we managed to survive Colombia's attempts to kick us apart and beat them in penalties.
    As to why I keep blaming the manager? I think we could have beaten Croatia and as such I feel aggrieved.
    He fielded players that shouldn't have played and he refused to adjust his tactics when Crotia made some tweaks and became dominant. It also looks like we were instructed to back off once we scored. ALL ARE DOWN TO THE MANAGER.

    Christ it's like talking to a wall.

    We're done.
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    Just because you've failed to persuade me doesn't mean that I'm a wall, it just means you've failed to convince me.

    You're basically saying that the players are subservient to the manager and can't use their own freewill. The players were playing for their country and NOT their manager. Where's their common sense? Where's their pride? Where's their raw passion? If the England team had any of that, they would have adapted to the match accordingly, in spite of what their manager told them to do.

    But thanks for confirming (more than once) that the English players are nothing more than complete and utter [overpaid] tools...

    *throws rattle back into your pram*
  • Victorious
    Defeat is declared not when you fall but when you refuse to stand again.
    Posted by tiziani
    Posted by Victorious
    Posted by tiziani
    Posted by Victorious
    Posted by tiziani
    Posted by Isolde
    Posted by tiziani
    Posted by Isolde
    Posted by tiziani
    Posted by Victorious
    Posted by Gobby
    Posted by Victorious
    Posted by Gobby
    The England team are a bunch of lazy pansies. France showed them how it's done.

    Well done, France!


    A bit harsh?

    They have 6 genuine world class players.

    England have 1.

    Southgate set his team up incorrectly for Croatia. They were undone tactically.

    treetrunk the England team.

    Always as useless as they've always been.

    We only got this far because we got lucky in the draw. France didn't get lucky, toughened up throughout the tournament and never crumbled at the first sign of REAL adversity.

    England should start investing in nurturing new talent, instead of throwing away tens of millions of pounds on foreign transfers. Until the England clubs realise this, we'll always suck in the international arena...


    We had good young talent at the world cup. Pickford and Trippier were outstanding. We were treetrunked as we didn't have a proper passer (ie Shelvey) or someone who can drive the ball and ride out tackles (ie Wilshere). The closest player we had to this was kept on the bench most the time.

    Certainly players were poor all tournament and should in no way have started so many games.

    Teams adjusted their tactics during the match which neutralised us. (we started pretty much every game incredibly dominant and very attacking for the opening 20mins) After which we were not able to regain the same level of dominance or intensity and we did not ever offer any variation to our game-plan.

    The manager is responsible for all of the above.


    I don't think any manager can work mental toughness into a team in the space of a month or so. The players weren't good enough this time around but they've got time to get better and a solid footing to work off of.


    The young England team are in the same position as where the young German team were in 2010.
    They needed the exposure and experience and will be better in the future. Or least I hope they do


    Yeah a WC semi-final was more than I expected from this group at this age. They are ahead of schedule.


    Precisely. If they played like that with experienced players then we can be harsh.

    I only expected them to qualify of maybe get to the quarter finals but not further. They exceeded expectations, the team have two years to find the play maker in the midfield.


    Personally I am not trying to be harsh, I am happy for what they did.

    It's just I think if they are going to improve, improve how long they can take on their opponents in games. If they put in these same kind of performances in 2-4 years time, they will not win anything. They might find a playmaker, a new player or a new tactic but if they still only play 45 mins at most and then turn passive in games, they won't win.

    I don't expect any team to go for the whole 90 mins - especially not in summer when it's roasting - but build yourself up until you can go for at least 70+ mins in a game taking your game to the opponents, at least.

    And honestly most of that I think is out of the control of the England setup. It comes down to the players and whether they're used to winning at club level.

    The French team had the same setup pretty much. Stay solid and be hard to score against, then kick the ball upfield to the fast guys up front. They didn't have to worry about anyone adapting to them even if their setup was as basic as England's.

    One thing I really liked about England is how deadly they were on set pieces. That alone should get anyone far into any tournament. Just keep that trait in handy and go for longer in games, that's all it takes. my 2 cents.


    But it looked like they were instructed to sit deep after taking the one goal lead against Croatia.

    Against Belgium the balance was once again buttere.

    England played their best football with Loftus Cheek and Lindegaard on the pitch together. We were rampant against Panama and we had huge pressure on Belgium before they countered.

    I'm still saying it's the managers selection.

    2002 was probably the most talented England side ever but their club rivalry was too intense to the point of detriment. But they were definitely winners, had the winners mentality and mental strength too. We had Sven in charge though and that's that.


    Right but this team has to first have the winning mentality before they can even hope to have the 2002 team's problems.


    Argentina were full of winners, their issue was the managers tactics and poor squad balance.

    Germany were full of winners, their issue was the manager picked the wrong players, he should have bought more of the younger and hungrier players from the confed cup.

    Everything begins with the manager.

    England didn't have tactical flexibility within games making us predictable and therefore more easier to negate and he kept picking players who didn't deserve to start.

    Italy didn't even qualify due to the tactics of the manager.

    Spain sacked their manager who led them unbeaten through qualification. Look what happened to those players?


    We can both agree the manager got above-average results with this team as is. If we can't then it's gonna go nowhere.

    Dude I'm a Serie A fan first and foremost, for years the league has tried to bullbutter itself that tactics and superstar coaching is the difference maker and it's just gotten nowhere. Give me talent and experience first, experience one thing this team was definitely missing.
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    I'll take tactics and talent Big Grin

    Fair enough mate.

    Yup, can agree to the first too. Semi finals are a great achievement!
  • Victorious
    Defeat is declared not when you fall but when you refuse to stand again.
    Posted by Gobby
    Posted by Victorious
    Posted by Gobby
    Posted by Victorious
    Posted by Gobby
    Posted by Victorious
    Posted by Gobby
    The England team are a bunch of lazy pansies. France showed them how it's done.

    Well done, France!


    A bit harsh?

    They have 6 genuine world class players.

    England have 1.

    Southgate set his team up incorrectly for Croatia. They were undone tactically.

    treetrunk the England team.

    Always as useless as they've always been.

    We only got this far because we got lucky in the draw. France didn't get lucky, toughened up throughout the tournament and never crumbled at the first sign of REAL adversity.

    England should start investing in nurturing new talent, instead of throwing away tens of millions of pounds on foreign transfers. Until the England clubs realise this, we'll always suck in the international arena...


    We had good young talent at the world cup. Pickford and Trippier were outstanding. We were treetrunked as we didn't have a proper passer (ie Shelvey) or someone who can drive the ball and ride out tackles (ie Wilshere). The closest player we had to this was kept on the bench most the time.

    Certainly players were poor all tournament and should in no way have started so many games.

    Teams adjusted their tactics during the match which neutralised us. (we started pretty much every game incredibly dominant and very attacking for the opening 20mins) After which we were not able to regain the same level of dominance or intensity and we did not ever offer any variation to our game-plan.

    The manager is responsible for all of the above.

    Blaming the manager is lame. While he may be partly responsible, the onus was on the players to get the job done. They didn't.


    If the midfield is being overrun by superior technical players who are able consistently to feed into dangerous areas, most managers will look to solidify the midfield. We didn't do that.

    Hard graft and a never give up attitude only go so far. You need tactical nous too.

    I mean we use to have Gerrard and Cole running forever and the team would still get turned over.

    I'm not going to argue with that, as I'm not a football fan. However, it's the same butter every single time with a different excuse. It gets very annoying when England can't get its act together. The only reason we got so far was because we were in the easiest of the two draws.

    Seriously, how many times can you blame just the manager?
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    I mean if you want to call the players lazy who am I to try to use logic or any type of analysis to try to dissuade you.

    By all means beat on the drum that there are no players of quality coming through despite our under 21s and under 17s winning the world cup.

    I like Southgate and I believe the team did overachieve, but we got to a semi final, so I'm damn happy about it. Yes we were lucky so what? We played amazing against Sweden, we managed to survive Colombia's attempts to kick us apart and beat them in penalties.
    As to why I keep blaming the manager? I think we could have beaten Croatia and as such I feel aggrieved.
    He fielded players that shouldn't have played and he refused to adjust his tactics when Crotia made some tweaks and became dominant. It also looks like we were instructed to back off once we scored. ALL ARE DOWN TO THE MANAGER.

    Christ it's like talking to a wall.

    We're done.
  • Posted by Victorious
    Posted by Gobby
    Posted by Victorious
    Posted by Gobby
    Posted by Victorious
    Posted by Gobby
    The England team are a bunch of lazy pansies. France showed them how it's done.

    Well done, France!


    A bit harsh?

    They have 6 genuine world class players.

    England have 1.

    Southgate set his team up incorrectly for Croatia. They were undone tactically.

    treetrunk the England team.

    Always as useless as they've always been.

    We only got this far because we got lucky in the draw. France didn't get lucky, toughened up throughout the tournament and never crumbled at the first sign of REAL adversity.

    England should start investing in nurturing new talent, instead of throwing away tens of millions of pounds on foreign transfers. Until the England clubs realise this, we'll always suck in the international arena...


    We had good young talent at the world cup. Pickford and Trippier were outstanding. We were treetrunked as we didn't have a proper passer (ie Shelvey) or someone who can drive the ball and ride out tackles (ie Wilshere). The closest player we had to this was kept on the bench most the time.

    Certainly players were poor all tournament and should in no way have started so many games.

    Teams adjusted their tactics during the match which neutralised us. (we started pretty much every game incredibly dominant and very attacking for the opening 20mins) After which we were not able to regain the same level of dominance or intensity and we did not ever offer any variation to our game-plan.

    The manager is responsible for all of the above.

    Blaming the manager is lame. While he may be partly responsible, the onus was on the players to get the job done. They didn't.


    If the midfield is being overrun by superior technical players who are able consistently to feed into dangerous areas, most managers will look to solidify the midfield. We didn't do that.

    Hard graft and a never give up attitude only go so far. You need tactical nous too.

    I mean we use to have Gerrard and Cole running forever and the team would still get turned over.
    click to expand

    I'm not going to argue with that, as I'm not a football fan. However, it's the same butter every single time with a different excuse. It gets very annoying when England can't get its act together. The only reason we got so far was because we were in the easiest of the two draws.

    Seriously, how many times can you blame just the manager?

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