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I've been receiving a daily text, nothing too in depth or seriots from my Taurus man. He had to cancel one our dates...no biggie, sheet happens.

However, he hasn't made any new plans to get together, so I finally just told him today that I'm perplexed by his mixed signals.

He quickly replied, gave an explanation of his whereabouts for the thanksgiving holiday, but I AM perplexed.

Wth...my sag personality is straightforward, but I don't like being toyed with, no matter how appealing a chap is.

Can anyone offer insight?
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He picked the first. I picked the second, based on my schedule. Neither of us drinks.

OK well I'm getting that there is another woman he is dating unfortunately :/



I suspected...too many mixed signals. I hate silly games.

Yes it sucks when they're dating more than one. Huge pet peeve
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I didn't figure him for a game-player... guess I read him all wrong. I just don't understand the need to lead people on. It's childish and hurtful.

Oh well. .. thanks for "listening"

You're a gem 🙂
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He picked the first. I picked the second, based on my schedule. Neither of us drinks.

OK well I'm getting that there is another woman he is dating unfortunately :/



I suspected...too many mixed signals. I hate silly games.

Yes it sucks when they're dating more than one. Huge pet peeve



I didn't figure him for a game-player... guess I read him all wrong. I just don't understand the need to lead people on. It's childish and hurtful.

Oh well. .. thanks for "listening"

You're a gem 🙂
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NP,

Did he tell you that you were the only one he was dating?
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I wouldn't trust some stranger who claims to be psychic and doesn't mind making these broad generalizations based on practically no real information. If you're just dating, he's under no obligation to keep it exclusive so he's not playing you. You're not at that stage yet. You're getting to know each other and it's better if it happens slows. Holiday time isn't a great time to make plans. Just go with the flow and see where it goes.
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Posted by Este8
I wouldn't trust some stranger who claims to be psychic and doesn't mind making these broad generalizations edbased on practically no real information. If you're just dating, he's under no obligation to keep it exclusive so he's not playing you. You're not at that stage yet. You're getting to know each other and it's better if it happens slows. Holiday time isn't a great time to make plans. Just go with the flow and see where it goes.



I planned on going with the flow, but he really has given mixed messages, which I did not expect since he was so clear and matter-of-fact about his "spiritual, emotional and physical attraction" then... he became luke warm, at best.

Despite being a sun sign sag, I'm not pushy. I am going to go with the flow.
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Posted by Este8
I wouldn't trust some stranger who claims to be psychic and doesn't mind making these broad generalizations based on practically no real information. If you're just dating, he's under no obligation to keep it exclusive so he's not playing you. You're not at that stage yet. You're getting to know each other and it's better if it happens slows. Holiday time isn't a great time to make plans. Just go with the flow and see where it goes.

I have both of their birthdays, her picture and info on the situation. Thats all a psychic usually needs honey.
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I wouldn't trust some stranger who claims to be psychic and doesn't mind making these broad generalizations based on practically no real information. If you're just dating, he's under no obligation to keep it exclusive so he's not playing you. You're not at that stage yet. You're getting to know each other and it's better if it happens slows. Holiday time isn't a great time to make plans. Just go with the flow and see where it goes.

I have both of their birthdays, her picture and info on the situation. Thats all a psychic usually needs honey.
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Seriously Roam you have all their information?
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I wouldn't trust some stranger who claims to be psychic and doesn't mind making these broad generalizations based on practically no real information. If you're just dating, he's under no obligation to keep it exclusive so he's not playing you. You're not at that stage yet. You're getting to know each other and it's better if it happens slows. Holiday time isn't a great time to make plans. Just go with the flow and see where it goes.

I have both of their birthdays, her picture and info on the situation. Thats all a psychic usually needs honey.



Seriously Roam you have all their information?
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lol, I'm going to lie so she can come in here and say I am? Yes I have that information.
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It has been casual... great first date, but he initiated contact right AFTER the first date, declaring his "spiritual, emotional, physical attraction." I confirmed I felt the same.

We made plans for a second date; he had to cancel, but never initiated a follow-up, then texts that he misses me.

I don't initiate any communication, but did tell him yesterday that the mixed messages are confusing.


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^^^ Ok wasn't finished sorry accidentally posted. So finally I ask him if he wants to continue like this because we can't give each other what we both needed and he says "I can can you?" Then he calls and tells me he loves me like no other. He thinks about a future with me, thinks about my kids and sharing his life with me and it hurts to be apart like this. Says he wants me and no one else and has been extremely lonely and stubborn to others because he wants to be happy and wants to make me happy. He says no one else can make him happy like I can so he just won't bother with anyone else. We haven't seen each other in weeks. After this 2 hour conversation of both of us professing and sharing our feelings I text him a few times over the thanksgiving weekend even sending pics and then boom. Nothing. No calls. No texts since Wednesday. This is torture. Why retreat after saying these things and I was sooooo receptive in receiving all he shared with me? After we finished he said he loved me and we'd talk soon. I hate to just shut down after such a breakthrough but I can't keep putting myself through this. I miss him and anticipate his contact but after sending multiple texts with no response I can't keep playing myself. Yet I will again because as soon as I give up, here he comes again. I've never experienced anyone like him before. He makes me sooooo happy yet sooooo sad at the same damn time. *sighs*
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^^^ Ok wasn't finished sorry accidentally posted. So finally I ask him if he wants to continue like this because we can't give each other what we both needed and he says "I can can you?" Then he calls and tells me he loves me like no other. He thinks about a future with me, thinks about my kids and sharing his life with me and it hurts to be apart like this. Says he wants me and no one else and has been extremely lonely and stubborn to others because he wants to be happy and wants to make me happy. He says no one else can make him happy like I can so he just won't bother with anyone else. We haven't seen each other in weeks. After this 2 hour conversation of both of us professing and sharing our feelings I text him a few times over the thanksgiving weekend even sending pics and then boom. Nothing. No calls. No texts since Wednesday. This is torture. Why retreat after saying these things and I was sooooo receptive in receiving all he shared with me? After we finished he said he loved me and we'd talk soon. I hate to just shut down after such a breakthrough but I can't keep putting myself through this. I miss him and anticipate his contact but after sending multiple texts with no response I can't keep playing myself. Yet I will again because as soon as I give up, here he comes again. I've never experienced anyone like him before. He makes me sooooo happy yet sooooo sad at the same damn time. *sighs*



He's full of s h i t and he is stringing you along. He says nice words but puts in the barest of bare minimum of action.
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I agree. There is no science to it. No hidden treasures, no gliche in the matrix just plain
b u l l s h i t. I have given him several chances to just end it and each time he comes up for air like he just has to say all of these things or all is lost forever and I fall for it every time because he seems so totured and frustrated by his own feelings and I feel sorry for him and reassure him that I'm here for him and I feel the same and for what. I didn't want to walk away and "hurt" him but he's hurt me far more and each time a little piece of me crumbles. Im good. *Exhales*
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What's the rush?
You are only casual dating. (2 dates, right?)

When was your last date?


I am picking up a hasty vibe from you, I could be wrong though 😉

If you just started dating and all is casual, there actually is a possibility that he might have a second "option".

umm, one more thing, It's OK to be low at texting, give space for other party to initiate, but not initiating at all, that I cannot understand. He can think: hm she is not texting me, she might not be interested.
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What's the rush?
You are only casual dating. (2 dates, right?)

When was your last date?


I am picking up a hasty vibe from you, I could be wrong though 😉

If you just started dating and all is casual, there actually is a possibility that he might have a second "option".

umm, one more thing, It's OK to be low at texting, give space for other party to initiate, but not initiating at all, that I cannot understand. He can think: hm she is not texting me, she might not be interested.


That would go for OP btw
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I agree. There is no science to it. No hidden treasures, no gliche in the matrix just plain
b u l l s h i t. I have given him several chances to just end it and each time he comes up for air like he just has to say all of these things or all is lost forever and I fall for it every time because he seems so totured and frustrated by his own feelings and I feel sorry for him and reassure him that I'm here for him and I feel the same and for what. I didn't want to walk away and "hurt" him but he's hurt me far more and each time a little piece of me crumbles. Im good. *Exhales*



Why would he 'end' it when he can keep you around?

The whole being tortured and frustrated by his feelings is probably a load a crap too. He's young but he's probably not stupid.

Anyway, I thought you were the one using him? Have followed the story via previous posts.

Seems like the tables have turned which was inevitable. I still don't see what this guy is offering you now and what he could offer you in the future. I thought it was a bit of fun and attention which was your choice to make but now it kinda sounds like you want a bit more from him so he's telling you the words you want to hear while he's keeping you at bay. I only say that because it seems like he pulls the words out as a last resort yet there's no plans being made and he's not making any effort but then if it's just a casual thing perhaps your expectation of him has now become more than he's willing to give.

I'm just saying that from someone looking in to your situation. I don't know everything but my recent experience with a guy (Taurus) was that he was full of words and no action.

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Posted by lucyL
What's the rush?
You are only casual dating. (2 dates, right?)

When was your last date?


I am picking up a hasty vibe from you, I could be wrong though 😉

If you just started dating and all is casual, there actually is a possibility that he might have a second "option".

umm, one more thing, It's OK to be low at texting, give space for other party to initiate, but not initiating at all, that I cannot understand. He can think: hm she is not texting me, she might not be interested.



Hmmm... great points!
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Posted by lucyL
What's the rush?
You are only casual dating. (2 dates, right?)

When was your last date?


I am picking up a hasty vibe from you, I could be wrong though 😉

If you just started dating and all is casual, there actually is a possibility that he might have a second "option".

umm, one more thing, It's OK to be low at texting, give space for other party to initiate, but not initiating at all, that I cannot understand. He can think: hm she is not texting me, she might not be interested.



So I texted him, just to see how he was doing. Much to my surprise he texted right back. He says he was with his CEO the past few days, but was thinking of me.

I don't know that he's men thinking of me, but I DO KNOW that nothing comes between a taurus and his money.
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Just take it slow... Tauruses don't like to be rushed. I'm a Sagittarius and my boyfriend is a Taurus. I took it really REALLY slow with him, and it took 3 years for us to be official. I'm not saying it'll take 3 years for you guys. However, so long as you don't have an official title don't expect him to be fully committed and you shouldn't be fully committed as well. Do keep in touch and make sure that you keep it lighthearted and fun until he makes a move that will let you know he wants you to be his and his alone. I know a favorite word most Tauruses use, "Mine." Until you here that then keep it friendly and keep the fire warm not hot, unless you want to scare him away.

Saggies and Tauruses can make a really good couple, so long as the foundation of friendship is there. He will do what he needs to do business wise, and what he may be looking for is someone that can do their own thing and better themselves but still maintain a bond even when you're not with one another.

Hope that helps 🙂
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Posted by SCORPIOGYRL
^^^ Ok wasn't finished sorry accidentally posted. So finally I ask him if he wants to continue like this because we can't give each other what we both needed and he says "I can can you?" Then he calls and tells me he loves me like no other. He thinks about a future with me, thinks about my kids and sharing his life with me and it hurts to be apart like this. Says he wants me and no one else and has been extremely lonely and stubborn to others because he wants to be happy and wants to make me happy. He says no one else can make him happy like I can so he just won't bother with anyone else. We haven't seen each other in weeks. After this 2 hour conversation of both of us professing and sharing our feelings I text him a few times over the thanksgiving weekend even sending pics and then boom. Nothing. No calls. No texts since Wednesday. This is torture. Why retreat after saying these things and I was sooooo receptive in receiving all he shared with me? After we finished he said he loved me and we'd talk soon. I hate to just shut down after such a breakthrough but I can't keep putting myself through this. I miss him and anticipate his contact but after sending multiple texts with no response I can't keep playing myself. Yet I will again because as soon as I give up, here he comes again. I've never experienced anyone like him before. He makes me sooooo happy yet sooooo sad at the same damn time. *sighs*

is he having money issues or something
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I agree. There is no science to it. No hidden treasures, no gliche in the matrix just plain
b u l l s h i t. I have given him several chances to just end it and each time he comes up for air like he just has to say all of these things or all is lost forever and I fall for it every time because he seems so totured and frustrated by his own feelings and I feel sorry for him and reassure him that I'm here for him and I feel the same and for what. I didn't want to walk away and "hurt" him but he's hurt me far more and each time a little piece of me crumbles. Im good. *Exhales*

Theres your answer right there. When men have dark feelings, are going through something related to not being able to be the man they want to be THEY SHUT DOWN. Period. Thats a man thing we just have to deal with. It's not you he's just depressed.
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Posted by JoanieSagi707
Just take it slow... Tauruses don't like to be rushed. I'm a Sagittarius and my boyfriend is a Taurus. I took it really REALLY slow with him, and it took 3 years for us to be official. I'm not saying it'll take 3 years for you guys. However, so long as you don't have an official title don't expect him to be fully committed and you shouldn't be fully committed as well. Do keep in touch and make sure that you keep it lighthearted and fun until he makes a move that will let you know he wants you to be his and his alone. I know a favorite word most Tauruses use, "Mine." Until you here that then keep it friendly and keep the fire warm not hot, unless you want to scare him away.

Saggies and Tauruses can make a really good couple, so long as the foundation of friendship is there. He will do what he needs to do business wise, and what he may be looking for is someone that can do their own thing and better themselves but still maintain a bond even when you're not with one another.

Hope that helps 🙂

eeh I cant agree.

At the end of the day it has to do with connection. Keeping it warm doesnt always help. I kept it hot when he was keeping it warm and thats how I got him. Taurus need reassurance. They're not like Leos that just go after women, they wont pursue unless they KNOW you like them (usually). Then you deal with him being slow maybe because of past hurt, not because he ideally wants to.

If you ideally dont want him dating someone else like we talked about before then find a guy who is a one woman dater.

Otherwise, show why he should be with you and no one else. If you're letting him do most of the texting then you're not coming at him enough it seems. Taurus are not Leos, they liked being pursued.

Thank God I have a Taurus and not a Leo because with all the Aries in my chart I do NOT like to stand back and wait. I'ma "TAKE ME NOW" chick.
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Posted by JoanieSagi707
Just take it slow... Tauruses don't like to be rushed. I'm a Sagittarius and my boyfriend is a Taurus. I took it really REALLY slow with him, and it took 3 years for us to be official. I'm not saying it'll take 3 years for you guys. However, so long as you don't have an official title don't expect him to be fully committed and you shouldn't be fully committed as well. Do keep in touch and make sure that you keep it lighthearted and fun until he makes a move that will let you know he wants you to be his and his alone. I know a favorite word most Tauruses use, "Mine." Until you here that then keep it friendly and keep the fire warm not hot, unless you want to scare him away.

Saggies and Tauruses can make a really good couple, so long as the foundation of friendship is there. He will do what he needs to do business wise, and what he may be looking for is someone that can do their own thing and better themselves but still maintain a bond even when you're not with one another.

Hope that helps 🙂



That was VERY helpful. Thank you!
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@Roam

I agree, it has everything to do with connection. I suppose everyone has different experiences with a Taurus. My Taurus boyfriend has an Venus Aries, so perhaps that why I didn't have to chase mine, he chased me. However, he wasn't overly aggressive. He was very patient. Birth charts may help a lot to determine what an individual may be capable of. I consider myself more chill so being warm is something that comes natural, instead of full forced heat. And maybe most Tauruses like to be pursued, but in my experience they have always pursued me not the other way around - even without all of the lava and heat.

I feel NYCCHICK because she's a Sagittarius, and I know we can be very impatient. The fire is hard to contain once it's let out, but you can do it 🙂

Because I wasn't sure of the Taurus, I took a very long time to make a move, but so glad that I did because he is the sweetest most generous soul I've ever met. I hope you guys work out!

🙂 it's worth the wait if and when you're both ready
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Posted by scorchedearth
roam stop giving terrible advice. ANY man who is interested will chase you. taurus man or not. the only time a taurus isn't chasing after you is because they're still deciding about you. or they're not serious about you.



And you nailed it in the head! I can't tell which side of the fence my bull is on: still deciding, or just not serious.

He speaks a great game, but doesn't back it up.
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That's EXACTLY why I came here for insight. I know we fire girls can burn a barn down lol

His venus is in taurus, mine in Cap.

I'm trying not to scare the bull off. Ironically, I have 3 chaps chasing me down, but I'm soft for the bull.



Amen! The fire is hard to control lol

And don't Tauruses have such a magnetic aura? They always make me feel calm; I love Tauruses. My grandma, best friend, and boyfriend are all Tauruses and very similar to one another. They are so funny and blunt when you really get to know them... even when they're being stubborn... it's so cute... they're so loyal when you're close to them... love Tauruses

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Amen! The fire is hard to control lol

And don't Tauruses have such a magnetic aura? They always make me feel calm; I love Tauruses. My grandma, best friend, and boyfriend are all Tauruses and very similar to one another. They are so funny and blunt when you really get to know them... even when they're being stubborn... it's so cute... they're so loyal when you're close to them... love Tauruses

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My mom, son and 2 close girlfriends are taurus. They are loyal to the end.

Well, I'll have to wait on my bull, because I plan on keeping him. He just doesn't know that yet. Lol
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Amen! The fire is hard to control lol

And don't Tauruses have such a magnetic aura? They always make me feel calm; I love Tauruses. My grandma, best friend, and boyfriend are all Tauruses and very similar to one another. They are so funny and blunt when you really get to know them... even when they're being stubborn... it's so cute... they're so loyal when you're close to them... love Tauruses

🙂





My mom, son and 2 close girlfriends are taurus. They are loyal to the end.

Well, I'll have to wait on my bull, because I plan on keeping him. He just doesn't know that yet. Lol
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lols it's always good to have a master plan ahah
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Amen! The fire is hard to control lol

And don't Tauruses have such a magnetic aura? They always make me feel calm; I love Tauruses. My grandma, best friend, and boyfriend are all Tauruses and very similar to one another. They are so funny and blunt when you really get to know them... even when they're being stubborn... it's so cute... they're so loyal when you're close to them... love Tauruses

🙂





My mom, son and 2 close girlfriends are taurus. They are loyal to the end.

Well, I'll have to wait on my bull, because I plan on keeping him. He just doesn't know that yet. Lol
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lols it's always good to have a master plan ahah
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@Roam

I agree, it has everything to do with connection. I suppose everyone has different experiences with a Taurus. My Taurus boyfriend has an Venus Aries, so perhaps that why I didn't have to chase mine, he chased me. However, he wasn't overly aggressive. He was very patient. Birth charts may help a lot to determine what an individual may be capable of. I consider myself more chill so being warm is something that comes natural, instead of full forced heat. And maybe most Tauruses like to be pursued, but in my experience they have always pursued me not the other way around - even without all of the lava and heat.

I feel NYCCHICK because she's a Sagittarius, and I know we can be very impatient. The fire is hard to contain once it's let out, but you can do it 🙂

Because I wasn't sure of the Taurus, I took a very long time to make a move, but so glad that I did because he is the sweetest most generous soul I've ever met. I hope you guys work out!

🙂 it's worth the wait if and when you're both ready

I hear you, I'm not saying they dont pursue, but they dont tend to mind a woman showing more interest than women usually do in the beginning stages. They're ruled by Venus, they love the love stuff.
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Posted by scorchedearth
roam stop giving terrible advice. ANY man who is interested will chase you. taurus man or not. the only time a taurus isn't chasing after you is because they're still deciding about you. or they're not serious about you.

Relax.

When I say chase I mean go above and beyond to pursue. You have pursue, then you have CHASE. It's different. Taurus dont usually like to chase after something that is running AWAY from them.

My advice is valid.
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Lol. You're right. Yes I fell. I fell hard too. Impossible not to. He offers alot more than I could begin explain. He's an old soul. Has drive and determination has a great future in store. He balances me. We complement one another. I could go on but I won't 🙂 (doesn't matter now) He text me prob an hour after I posted yesterday. I wasnt going to contact him anymore. Our last convo prior to the final retreat last Wednesday he discussed all about how deeply he loves me and that he doesnt do half relationships because his feelings get so deeply involved but he can't ask me to-- well you know. He wanted to know all about my kids how they would accept him, we talked about our families, traveling, he said he's thought about all of this for so long but didn't want to say anything because he didn't want me to think he'd gotten too attached so fast. Him: Taurus sun Scorp rising, scorp moon, Scorp pluto, venus aries (It was supposed to be just fun) so he held back. (I wish I had known he felt like this) Said he wants to go all in now but not without a full commitment on my part. I couldn't give him that because he hadnt shown me enough emotional stability for me to make such a major move. Things will be going great We'd get really close and then he'd pull away. He said he couldn't go all in with until he knew whether he could fully have me. And so forth and so on. After some back and forth I love u and miss you's how was your day, im thinking of you often... finally he said something that caught my attention "its not the best situation to be in right now" so I asked "ok so us there something you'd like to say? You know I'll understand." In so many words he stated "its nothing against you but it has been extremely hard on me not being able to be there with you fully and vice versa. I need to be able to spend holidays with you, wake up to you in the morning, be apart of your life every day. Ill always love you like no other. no other woman could compare you'll always have my heart." I text back "I appreciate your honesty and I totally understand. Always here if u need. U have a friend 4 life in me." He says "I love you so much baby I appreciate you and the same goes for me as well." So I guess that's it. I'm only glad that he gave me closure if nothing else 😢 i appreciate that. I wouldn't try to convince him otherwise. its not fair to him or me. I wish him all the happiness in the world and I pray he finds true love one day I'll remember h
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