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    24 years old male
    Joined dxpnet on April 12, 2017.
    Posted by ACsquarepluto
    Posted by EtherealTraveler
    Posted by ACsquarepluto
    Posted by EtherealTraveler
    Posted by ACsquarepluto
    The first chart has Chiron in Scorpio square Uranus by 1 degree. This could cause instability in upbringing (emphasized by Chiron in 2nd), Chiron in Scorpio could indicate that power and its abuse was a childhood theme. Saturn in 8th square Pluto could indicate that power struggles and oppression from authority figures is a recurring theme through life.

    The second chart has Chiron in Scorpio in 1st: the 1st house indicating that as a child, this person may have been made to feel ashamed to be him or herself. Saturn quincunx Chiron by 2 degrees indicate that someone in authority may have been the cause of oppression or trauma from childhood (or that these figures show up through the lifetime, stirring up deeply-felt shame stemming from the vulnerable years). More positively, this chart has a Chiron-Venus sextile indicating that this person may find it in him or herself to use his/her experience to help others.

    Hope this helps.

    As a side note-
    Asteroids which can indicate abuse: Dejanira (157) conjunct the personal planets or North Node
    Potentially Proserpina (26) conjunct the personal planets
    Prey (6157) conjunct the personal planets
    (source: http://mychristianpsychic.com/journal/asked-ten-darkest-asteroids-synastry/)


    Quick correction, 1st chart doesn't have Saturn square Pluto but more like Saturn sesquiquadrate Pluto because of 3 degree Taurus and 5 degree Sag


    my bad. corrected


    But from this can we say that Chiron in Scorpio with bad aspects could lead to abuse? I also noticed that the 2nd chart has Mars square Pluto in a 2 degree orb so that's like really dangerous too.

    I also think the two have negative Jupiter aspects too, would that contribute?


    You might be right about the Mars-Pluto hard aspects contributing to this. I see the first chart has a 4 degree quincunx. As far as Jupiter aspects, I only saw a trine to the sun in the first and a semisextile to Mercury in the second, so I wouldn't peg this as a contributor. I skip Jupiter aspects in readings often though: good aspects=luck, hard aspects=struggle with self-discipline, from what I've read so far.
    looking back I see Jupiter aspects the angles out of sign in the first chart and semi-squares Uranus, still not sure this would be a contributor. Uranus and Neptune in the 4th house could be contributors within the first chart.
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    I mean the situation with the first chart is that the victim has a male roommate that suffers from substance abuse and drug abuse, and when someone isn't thinking clearly due to the drugs and drinks, the first thing they would do is to assault the victim which is a woman that has no ability to fight back.

    This went on for half a year, with the victim basically babysitting the aggressor and paying for his stuff and rent while he comes back and rapes her. This happened for 1.5 years straight before he was finally able to break it off. From my initial suspects, I feel like Sun/Mars in 10th house might have contributed to this (She has sun opposite Neptune, which means that either she deceives or is deceived. In this case while she works as an accountant which means she has to lie to people about things, she might be also deceived by her own roommate), as well as Uranus and Neptune being in 4th house as you said (The raping happens in her own apartment). Plus the Chiron and Saturn in 8th house, which results in her being unable to fight back and have issues with her finances (Chiron in 2nd house is related to her own finances, Saturn in the 8th is about other people's finances)

    I mean I'm probably missing out things but what happened fitted accurately into what her chart suggests...