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    Posted by Pandora101
    Posted by MrsElleCappysnatch
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    Posted by MrsElleCappysnatch
    Rape is rape.

    There are not different levels or one more traumatic than the other.

    It is all a violation to your body.

    Please stop trying to justify it in your head.


    and I agree that it is all a violation to your body
    the difference is (imho) that if you were a participant of this violation of your body or not

    if you offer yourself and/or know this person and then cry rape - you could control it, you could expect the violence, it was somehow at least in your control to stay away
    if its a stranger in a dark alley, a brutal assault from a total stranger - you can not control it, you cant stay away

    I dont think one is less or more traumatic than the other

    I just say, there really are different levels of how to invite offenders into your lives.

    If you have a victim mentality, you stay and endure abuse until you cry "rape" (your choice - sorry)
    If you get brutalized by a total stranger randomly - you didnt have a choice


    It's very simple.....

    If you say no before the act, it is rape.

    If you don't say no and regret it later, it is not rape.

    It doesnt matter if you get all the way naked and seconds beforehand you say no. It is your right to say no and the other person is responsible for their self control.....not you.


    "It doesnt matter if you get all the way naked and seconds beforehand you say no."
    this will do a great service to our girls, thank you
    and to our boys as well, great messege
    sarcasm
    it DOES MATTER if you get all the way naked and inviting, and then you say its rape
    see, thats why I am saying, rape and claiming rape is not equal

    would be better to tell girls, dont get naked and into sex, if you dont want to have sex, because otherwise boys will think you want sex (you got naked voluntarily)

    and lots of boys are getting into trouble by "drunk as ass and getting naked and inviting" type of girls, who then cry rape because of their parents force them to claim

    but, my initial question was, if this is the same type of attack what you endure if you are not naked at the party and dont say you go with them somewhere for money


    You are not trying to understand my perspective.

    "it DOES MATTER if you get all the way naked and inviting, and then you say its rape"

    ^^ This is not what I said.

    it DOES MATTER if you get all the way naked and inviting, and then you say NO. If you proceed after being told NO. It is Rape.

    ^^ This is what I said.

    There is a very clear line. No means no.


    You are not trying to understand my perspective.

    "it DOES MATTER if you get all the way naked and inviting, and then you say its rape"

    ^^ This is not what I said.

    it DOES MATTER if you get all the way naked and inviting, and then you say NO. If you proceed after being told NO. It is Rape.

    ^^ This is what I said.

    There is a very clear line. No means no."

    I see your perspective, I just dont agree with it fully. If you get naked and inviting, its a consensual sex. If our girls would hear that (instead of the: any time you say no its a rape), it would be more beneficial, imho


    How do you think it would be more beneficial?
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    "How do you think it would be more beneficial?"
    I think if telling our girls if you get naked at the party and sleep with someone, its not rape. I know, revolutionary, to tell girls they are capable to make their own decisions. That they are not imbeciles and actually can control their actions.

    the main question of this topic was, if the rape of the willing participant (who got into the situation willingly) is the same as the rape of someone who got into this situation unwillingly, by brutally assaulted, by strangers, what is not in their control.

    why cry rape in every case when you just dont control yourself? on contratry to cases who are assaulted NOT willingly

    I dont want to mitigate the harm.... I just want justice for the real victims (not the ones who willingly invited that into their lives, by being naked in parties and going to the "Champaigne room" with the "custumers"