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    I came from the cosmic womb
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    Posted by jezzyboo21
    Posted by neves
    Posted by jezzyboo21
    Posted by neves
    That's an easy one. Humans are not that different compared to the rest of the animal kingdom in this regard. As in... "they struggle with the idea of making big changes" - even if they're already struggling with their current human condition (a shitty job, a toxic relationship, a home place that doesn't feel like home anymore - cause of shitty neighbors and so on and so forth...), even if a change is clearly the best/recommended option. If it's something they practiced for a long time (so long that it became a part of their current personality) - that's like a new limb that's grown on them (not something one can easily remove from ones life - tho, same goes for a medium level of difficulty). Like the saying goes "better the devil you know than the devil you don't..."

    When it comes to stuff like this - you have to push yourself harder and harder till you manage to swim against the tide (remove that person from your life - or remove yourself from theirs - and more importantly "keep the distance"), till you reach the calm side of the ocean, again. It's all about time and practice (keeping the distance and filling that void with something else). As mentioned in the beginning - we're not that different than animals in this regard. Once you managed to make that change (replace that image of them from your mind - with a new practice) - things will turn back to normal (so to speak). At that point - their image might even trigger bad feelings (a mental defense mechanism) - if you get in touch incidentally, so you'd prefer/wanna to keep the distance at all costs (as if they're plagued).

    do you think we are capable of love? Or is it as elusive as the nature of god?


    I don't understand your question, exactly. Capable of love in what sense?! I mean, when people talk about love - that's either a referral to a lasting desire for something/someone (some if not most - would described it as everlasting - or at least that's how it's idealized) or/and a developed attachment for someone - be it a romantic partner, a child, a parent and so on and so forth (the keyword here is "My" - my lover, my child, my father/mother, my dog, etc.). Another way to put it... someone they deemed as an extension of their identity, i mean... ever if you're the biological parent of a child - that doesn't make you a parent unless you act line one. Every form of attachment takes big steps in that direction and dedication/sacrifice - which again "some call it simply love (while others make sure you understand what their love stands for - by listing all things they did/do for you). Humans are social creature, so in that sense - yes they're quite capable of attachment and the desires the have for other people to be part of their life. The thing is... the rest of the animal kingdom lacks the intellect to develop a complex language of their own - to define their actions through concepts like love, yet... a lot of them have similar rituals (in their way - they too can display compassion, affection and attachment for another - even different species).

    As for God's nature - that was defined by humans (our ancestors), and as history goes to prove - some of this humans (well, quite a lot) - had their own personal agenda (quite elusive to say the least) - which they expressed in God's name (so called "God's will" - for things to be a certain way). Then again, there's still places in this world - where God is used as an excuse for personal agendas. And even the western world is stained by such believes and indoctrination, but at least in the western world - religion is a choice - an intellectual belief. Doesn't go hand in hand with state's power/agenda. It's not the law anymore (as it used past centuries), like Sharia (Islamic law). Anyway, the term "God" - was defined as... "I am that I am" or "I am who I am..." A meaning that's quite common with other religions - where God is seen as everything and everyone in this Universe. So, if we're all God - but we play the game of individuality (where you're jezzyboo21, someone's daughter, someone's friend and so on... while others have their own names and individual roles), for the sake of evolution... being "elusive" about it - is the only way to play this game (only way it's possible). I mean, if we all acknowledge each-other as one - that's bound to limit or individual potential. This too was proven, even tho we're not capable to truly think and act as one... tho, some cults tried to achieve the closest thing to that (where only the cult leader expressed his individuality - while the rest tried to blend in... like sheep). Coincidentally even the concept of love is used as a tool by cults. Quite easy to understand why that is possible - if we're to take in consideration the social side of human nature and chemicals like Serotonin, Oxytocin (the so called "love hormone"). The way they work (the fact that you need another for this chemicals to be released in abundance - and a social place tends to be the most suited place for that - since even hugs promote their release). Also, while being bombarded with those chemicals (and feels that come with that) - one tends to be really gullible/naive (more focused on the feels than the big picture - and what's really going on).

    Last but not least, God's love is known as Agape - so called "unconditional love". Humans are capable of feeling even that - while bombarded with above chemicals (since one becomes really naive, since logic tends to fade away when that happens - as if you're drunk of love and the good feels is what you use for guidance). Tho, ofc - it's just a temporary state. When the senses return - so do expectations. That time in a marriage - where one says something like "Who are you?! It's like i don't recognize you anymore - cause you were so different before marriage..." Which is true, since that's the love bubble phase. Which is quite elusive by nature and not necessarily - because one try to trick the other (that's only possible if one of the two is conscious - "not in love with the other" - to put it like that. This is to long already, so i hope that answers your question.you. I feel like I just got slapped by a whole ted talk but its certainly useful all the same.

    I wanted to know specifically if us humans could love without the pretense of what one could do for another. Say for instance you have a mother reprimanding her child for putting the hand in the cookie jar or dumping a person because the passion has "left". Something like that. I guess what im trying to ask is, is love purely transaction and not much else?
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