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    Four neighboring signs in four different elements...That's Me...
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    Joined dxpnet on August 24, 2011.
    Posted by saggurl88
    Posted by Chuckcem
    Posted by saggurl88
    His Placements are
    Leo Sun
    Cancer Moon
    Leo Mercury
    Cancer Mars
    Leo Venus

    He doesn't believe in astrology, so I don't think he's aware of how a typical Sag can be flighty.
    But I think he is just super sensitive, at least that's how he comes off with the way he talks. Sometimes he's contradicting. Like by saying he likes being alone and doesn't need to be in a relationship, but then in the same breath saying that women sometimes lose interest and he doesn't know what happens.

    He's a watery fire sign, who doesn't need much contact, the same way I am. We talk every 2- 3 days.

    He has some reservations about me, I already know this.

    He knows who my ex is, he went to middle school and part of high school with him. He can't really get past it though.
    There is a very small ethnic group that went to that school , so of course he would know him. We all are mixed kids. I met my ex when he was 15 and we were together then. My ex also contacted him and told him to leave me alone, because he's an ass like that.
    So last year he kept sending me tons of messages telling me I needed to move on and that he would not be contacting me anymore. But then he would call me and say the same thing. I finally told him to stop calling me then. I was over the dramatic, "I can never be yours, cause of the people we know, you have to move on" It was so dramatic, smh, but he stopped contacting me and just contacted me again right before the pandemic hit.
    That meant he must be ok with who I used to be with and over my ex inboxing him.

    But he still has brought it up now and I've told him that he needs to get over that. He doesn't know my ex, just cause he went to high school with him and they were both popular kids, if I don't know him and was with my ex 20 years, then he doesn't know him either. I told him that its not like I screwed the whole football team, he knows 1 person that I was with for a long time and he is having reservations about it.
    We all live in the same city and we've never run into each other. But he does have my ex on social media. Typical high school friend stuff, but they don't interact.

    High school with 5,000 people running around is hardly an issue, IMO.

    Seems like he's fixated on the issue. I just told him yesterday that thinking too much about the past, when these people aren't even a part of his everyday life now or for the last 15 years, is gonna ruin his chances for something in the future- obviously, if it has to do with me being in it.

    What you said made a lot of sense and I see it from a different perspective now.
    I think he might be coming around, judging by how we talked yesterday, but I will still wait and see.

    This is the first Leo that I've been interested in. So I'm learning as I go. He is very attractive as well, so I don't know why he would have issues with me getting attention, when he gets just as much.

    I also think he knows I am fine with long relationships, since I was in one.


    So from what you've just mentioned, you will need to consider his Cancer placements, especially that Cancer Mars of his. Remember that Mars is how we pursue our goals. It is how we act out our drives or even how we show aggression. Mars itself is a masculine/aggressive placement, while Cancer energy is practically the opposite. As a result this can be a very confusing placement, especially for a guy. Cancer energy needs to nurture and feel nurtured. To feel comfortable the placement needs to feel emotionally secure. On its own Mars in Cancer can be tricky, but that is compounded because of his Cancer Moon. Essentially the Leo feels in the way a Cancer would because of his Moon, but that is being irritated by his Mars.

    What does all of this mean? It means you have a guy who can be prone to bouts of introversion and passive aggressive behavior when he feels that his needs are not being met. His outward pursuit appears passive, even sullen at times. This is the type of guy who may present his emotions in an indirect manner, while also wearing his heart on his sleeve. His Leo placements make him a bit more outspoken about his feelings. Water energy can also be prone to fixating on the past and for some reason his Leo pride has a hard time reconciling with yours. I know Cancer people who may focus on the past a little too much, but they still figure out how to move past it quietly. The Leo's stubbornness however keeps him fixed on details of your life that truly are none of his business.

    Also know that this is no excuse for the Leo's behavior, just a basic estimation of the his character. At the end of the day, astrological placements do not make a person. There are myriad of components that factor into a person's personality. This Leo needs to learn to stop sulking and to stop wasting time being so judgemental. It does not make sense for him to bring up your ex from 15 years ago. Maybe he feels hurt about that past relationship and is too proud to admit it, but again, that is none of his business. Make that clear to him. Let him know that if he wants to continue talking to you, he needs to drop the excuses and make a move toward you. His Cancer side will not like this and may even make him feel inadequate, but his Leo side will see this as a challenge. This is a Leo who needs to stop sitting in his feelings and start taking some action.


    Thanks for all of this. I completely agree.
    I know when I should make moves towards him and contact him, based on how he contacts me. Thank goodness for his phone calls. I hardly ever talk on the phone, so I'm thankful that he calls when I text, and so I find myself making the effort to call him now too.

    I have been telling him everything that you mentioned, it's just a waiting game at this point. I called him yesterday and he didn't call me back, so he will probably do it with in the next day or so, based on his patterns.

    It's retrograde, so I don't want to be in contact with him and get into any type of altercation that will have a huge impact, so I will let things be easy going and pretty passive. Less chance for any type of argument if we don't talk often Big Grin

    He may be having to resolve past issues as well, with his moon. Seems like a difficult moon we are dealing with in the Cancer retrograde. Everyone cleaning up past issues. Hopefully he's doing some cleaning and not inviting!
    The other day he was more receptive to seeing me. So I will leave it alone for a little while and see how he goes about doing it. Cancer Mars is tricky because they say they are clingy, but I just don't know. Trust is always a huge factor when it comes to this type of placement, because most don't like clingy and we condition ourselves to try and stop behavior that the majority tell us is bad.

    I think things can be good once we meet in person and he sees I'm fine with it, if he's actually like this.

    Sometimes I give people more benefit then I am suppose to, but time still has a way of letting me see things clearly, so I don't mind being so optimistic. smile

    Thanks again for your response. I will take it all into consideration, and do my own sorting, in order to be more patient.
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    I will say, do not wait forever for this guy. If he's going to dawdle and mull over issues that are not his own, you will only be doing yourself a disservice by keeping yourself fixated on him. Sometimes it is best to let things go when people are not able to show up.