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That is unless science progresses to a point humans make a way to actually become immortal.
This is probably the smartest thing you've ever said. However, you definitely exaggerate because while you did do a complete 180 flip. It wasn't until about 4/5ths of the way down. You wrote a huge ass paragraph, basically going over the exact opposite. So if I managed to stop 3/5ths of the way there thinking I got the gist of what you were going to say. Well... shrug.


Truth be told I though about it all day. Just trying to find a way to find an absolute truth. Then I thought about death. I started thinking about how death is an absolute truth because it's guaranteed.


death may be a certainty from our point of view and this again for an incredibly long time, despite the greatest advancements of science, but
"That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die"
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Death can't die. Things are destined to die, but death itself is an important fundamental to the balance of this universe. I believe humans on this earth will become extinct long before we progress far into the universe or become immortal. Maybe our spirit or energy will, but our message as of now won't. There is a balance in this universe. From the nebuals making stars to the black holes sucking it all up there is a perfect balance. It can be found anywhere. With darkness and light, hot and cold, hate and love, truth and lies, or life and death. Every single thing needs an opposite for everything else to exist in the first place. Without one the other will cease to exist.

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Nope. There is only truth. After you've sifted through every single lie at the very end of the chain is a solid truth. It's like fixing a car or computer. It's just a process of elimination till there is absolutely nothing left except the one and only problem making it all malfunction.


Do you think we can find absolute truth ifbwe work as a collective


We already have. It's none other then death. Hear me out for a minute. Something like death is an absolute truth. We know this because we all witness it and view it happening around us. It's guaranteed, and nothing can stop it. It's just simple and basic knowledge so we don't think to deeply into it. Other things in life are too complex for our human minds to figure out. That and humans like to view an object from all sides rather then just 1. Because of this we somewhat freak out when things don't make sense, and make the most logical decision on a situation depending on what we've analyzed and what other people think. Back to the basics though death is an absolute truth. Everyone is 100% guaranteed die eventually. That is unless science progresses to a point humans make a way to actually become immortal. Dammit I'm doing it again! I'm taking my point and completely proving it wrong as I go. Curse you infinite information and knowledge!



Even now death is uncertain. There is the theory of reincarnation combined with philosophers, like Descartes, presenting us with the possibility that the human body may not exist from a broader perspective than that of humans and our dimension.
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I'm fully for believing in reincarnation, the spirit, and God. I was just keeping it on a physical level of now and keeping afterlife out of the equation. For now when I get cut it hurts and I feel pain, and if I bleed our I die. As of now that is still a law of nature.

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That means the image of myself can never truly die, making myself immortal. I'm too drunk for this. I could die right here right now, but somewhere else another image of me has already found immortality. So the creation of anything in existence is technically already immortal, but also not immortal at the same time. Reality is nothing but a line branching out in different possibilities, but still connected at the same time. So if I pick up this gun and shoot myself in the head I won't actually die. Because I can die. The law of the universes doesn't accept suicide from anything it fabricated out of nothing. The energy that makes you can't die, simply because on the other branch of reality you didn't die. The first path you didn't pick up the gun, and didn't pull the trigger. On the other the bullet got jammed and didn't go off. Then another path you got distract at the last second. Brb I need to test this.
Eh, you'll die in the biological sense. But odds are your consciousness will just merge with the nearest duplicate of yourself within the multiverse. Or somethin like that. You wouldn't remember this life tho, so you won't realize what has happened. You'll just see it as you waking up in the morning.
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That's actually pretty butterty. So far the last 27 years I've woke up as the same person with the same butterty thoughts and life style as I've always had. To think about living the same life over and over makes me feel trapped. Hopefully I can live the more extreme or even more passive route eventually. Who knows, maybe the most advanced form of myself already experienced the extreme and passive route many times, and said treetrunk it I'll take the average normal route this time. I feel my last words in this life would be "Its about time for a change."
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Just trying to find a way to find an absolute truth.
I think the answer is more complicated than that. Than "A Truth". I mean with the kind of butter I've learned. You probably haven't heard of Complex Numbers. But needless to say, mathematics becomes unfathomably more complicated when you delve into them. Like so complicated it becomes purely abstract, even more so than "puny" algebra. We're talking computing the operation between mathematical variables from multiple planes of existence and butter.

When you start seeing reality from this reference point and really starting to grasp how it TRULY does surpass our own comprehension. As in there are laws of physics that are comprehensible by certain levels of intelligence we don't have. Physics that makes our most advanced physics look like a retard's scrawlings made of literal feces. Well what you start to realize is. Truth is something less fixed to begin with. That isn't to say there isn't "absolute" truth. But that at the absolute level, it is pure FLUID. Or even geometrically beyond the 3 dimensions of spacetime. Truth becomes unhinged so that it is paradoxically set on whatever it needs to be in any given context to make reality "work", absolutely.

What I mean is. Take what you just said in this post for instance. With the conception of Multiverse theory and the implications. A fundamental truth we are faced with is that while Denver had won the super bowl relatively recently. There's a universe where THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN, SO IT'S /NOT/ TRUE. Simultaneous to the fact that it IS true. So it both is, and isn't. This is an example of how schrodinger's superimposed possibility applies on a macroscopic scale. But the most important and world changing part of this is that. Literally, if someone were to say "The Broncos have won every single super bowl since their inception." They would be wrong in reference to this universe. But inevitably right in reference to some other universe that inevitably exists. So they are wrong, and they are right. Both are objectively true.

The best way I can explain this in the grand scheme of things is that, truth is nothing more than "truth for truth's sake". It is that which defines what is real. But what is real is not limited in any shape or way in it's truest form. We can view this as "imminent truth" VS "transcendental truth". Imminent truth is the absolute fact in the moment of our subjective reference point, that defines what WILL happen here and now. But Transcendental Truth is by it's very geometry. Limitless in form, shape, mass, etc. So it's not a specific fact but every, all, and any fact. All at the same time.
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That means the image of myself can never truly die, making myself immortal. I'm too drunk for this. I could die right here right now, but somewhere else another image of me has already found immortality. So the creation of anything in existence is technically already immortal, but also not immortal at the same time. Reality is nothing but a line branching out in different possibilities, but still connected at the same time. So if I pick up this gun and shoot myself in the head I won't actually die. Because I can die. The law of the universes doesn't accept suicide from anything it fabricated out of nothing. The energy that makes you can't die, simply because on the other branch of reality you didn't die. The first path you didn't pick up the gun, and didn't pull the trigger. On the other the bullet got jammed and didn't go off. Then another path you got distract at the last second. Brb I need to test this.


For me it's anyone who did any type of comedy news show in the entire history of Comedy Central.

treetrunk all of them. Especially the ones who fully conform to liberals.
Posted by TheTinMan
This guy may not be a celebrity but I can't stand Donald Trump. For multiple and obvious reasons.

What is it about those celebrities you can't stand, crimsontide or whatever your name is.


Lol.

You couldn't just scroll up a bit?
Thats why most gamers are all single lol. People expect the worst before seeing how perfect it actually is.

Posted by Terramine
Posted by Soul
That is unless science progresses to a point humans make a way to actually become immortal.
This is probably the smartest thing you've ever said. However, you definitely exaggerate because while you did do a complete 180 flip. It wasn't until about 4/5ths of the way down. You wrote a huge ass paragraph, basically going over the exact opposite. So if I managed to stop 3/5ths of the way there thinking I got the gist of what you were going to say. Well... shrug.
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Truth be told I though about it all day. Just trying to find a way to find an absolute truth. Then I thought about death. I started thinking about how death is an absolute truth because it's guaranteed. I was trying my best to go against the grain. Then I realized it's guaranteed now, but science could eventually flaw that. So when I made my post I did the same thing my thoughts did earlier this day.

Then I started to think about how the idea of information and knowledge being infinite could help the theory of a singularly on a physical level. If infinity can exist on a mental level and in numbers, then why couldn't it exist on a physical level in reality? Which if that's the case and reality is infinite that means you and I are having this exact same conversation an infinite amount of times. Including the infinite amount of places this conversation is slightly distorted, or completely opposite from now. That idea is nothing special though. Because an infinite amount of people would have already thought that long before me, and will continue doing so long after.
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Something like death is an absolute truth. It's guaranteed, and nothing can stop it.
What basis do you have for this claim? Just because you see "everyone" die SO FAR. Does not even remotely prove that Immortality is impossible. In fact, you and your kind are just flat out wrong. Scientifically speaking we have observed a form of life that is NATURALLY IMMORTAL. A species of Jellyfish that can and does reverse it's aging process like the mythological Phoenix. They never die unless killed, meaning something like a predator has to force them to die. Otherwise by default they just live forever.

Even in regards to ourselves, we know what exactly causes death. It has to do with gene sequences mutating over time as cells reproduce. Over time the quality of reproduction of the sequence degrades, the more it degrades the more drastic mutations happen. Let it run on long enough and you're INEVITABLY going to have something fatal happen. Like an organ shutting off. Because the organ's cells don't reproduce right. Likewise, this is precisely the cause of Cancer and why they say we technically already have the "cancer cells" inside of us. This is what makes death so "inevitable" for us, as it's literally wired into our own genetic code. We are built with what is essentially termination protocol. Even if you kept curing each fatal problem that popped up, the person would still inevitably die. Even if they would have to just simply, drop dead.

The kicker is though. This tells us exactly what we need to do, to make ourselves immortal. Actually it gives us multiple options. We could try to crack the genetic sequence so this degradation doesn't happen. In terms of genetic engineering, this would be equivalent to making it so we never get old or sick. By simply flicking a genetic switch. But achieving such a thing is very tricky. It'd be much easier to just sort of "reset" the genetic sequence. If we do that then it'd be kinda like cracking a trial computer program that gives you 30 free days before you have to pay for the program, by forcing it to keep giving you 30 more trial days. In this case the "expiration date" would be your death, the "trial time" would be your lifespan. So by replacing the genetic sequence before it degrades too much, with a fully healthy version of the genetic sequence. You will keep "resetting" the person back to a predetermined age. Such as say, the age of 25.

Which is much better than the immortality than those Jelly Fish I mentioned have. Because ideally you wouldn't want to push the person developmentally back all the way to when they were a baby. As you obviously want to be able to retain all the knowledge and memories you gained over the years. Beyond that, it's almost inevitable that we will be able to put a human brain into a cybernetic body at some point. Which again would render the person immortal as long as we can get the right combination of chemical balances that the brain needs to survive.

I can keep going all day. Death isn't inevitable, you worship it like it's a God and yet like many "Gods". Science killed it already.
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Damn. That would be a great read and all, but I literally already said all that with half the effort lmao!

I can't be mad though. You have the right to only read the first sentence then jump to conclusions.
Posted by xyinsaturn
Posted by Soul
Nope. There is only truth. After you've sifted through every single lie at the very end of the chain is a solid truth. It's like fixing a car or computer. It's just a process of elimination till there is absolutely nothing left except the one and only problem making it all malfunction.


Do you think we can find absolute truth ifbwe work as a collective
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We already have. It's none other then death. Hear me out for a minute. Something like death is an absolute truth. We know this because we all witness it and view it happening around us. It's guaranteed, and nothing can stop it. It's just simple and basic knowledge so we don't think to deeply into it. Other things in life are too complex for our human minds to figure out. That and humans like to view an object from all sides rather then just 1. Because of this we somewhat freak out when things don't make sense, and make the most logical decision on a situation depending on what we've analyzed and what other people think. Back to the basics though death is an absolute truth. Everyone is 100% guaranteed die eventually. That is unless science progresses to a point humans make a way to actually become immortal. Dammit I'm doing it again! I'm taking my point and completely proving it wrong as I go. Curse you infinite information and knowledge!


15 hours
Posted by twinkletoes
Posted by Soul
Lazy people can't party. That's like the complete opposite of being lazy.



cookiemonster go home.
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Or I could just stay here

Someone sounds a little fussy.

Sounds like someone's needs a nap lol.

Brb, let me go grab some warm milk and a story so I can tuck you in.
Lazy people can't party. That's like the complete opposite of being lazy.
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Go for it. I'll answer. Also I always liked you as a member, and the stuff you write so no need to worry lol.


thank you. the first thing I wanted to ask is - did that really happen to you? or just creative writing? reminds me of some hellish Near Death Experiences I've read. If it happened...what do you think it was? hallucination? vision of some sort? I've had some crazy experiences on drugs that I don't even like to talk about but nothing ever this crazy....
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As much as I want to say it was a dream, hallucination, or near death experience I can't lol. I made it up, which actually makes it worse now that I think about it. I guess it could fall into the vision category. I started making that story months ago. I was daydreaming one day and started to create parts of it, but never wrote it out. It actually haunted me for days, and I thought about writing it out on dxp but figured it was too dark and twisted for the majority of people. Then this thread happened and I figured what the hell, I might as well finally write that idea into a short story.

I actually started from the middle, because I don't remember what the original idea for the start was besides the main plot of neglecting loved ones. Then I started on the end before the middle was done, and kept jumping back and forth. For me it's easier to think of other parts when I have writers block. Then I made the start at the very end. Imo it makes it easier to make a beginning that is made somewhat based off the main parts after they are finished, which for me was the middle and end. Then I just added a few things, deleted a few things, then posted.

So it's all just made up from things I was daydreaming. Or was it?
Posted by MyStarsShine
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Posted by MyStarsShine
I was with four water moons

Not sure what a treetrunkboi is but if it is a man that is promiscuous....no

None of them were

They were all faithful to me


Don't worry, the op doesn't know what it means either LMAO!



Oh right i will investigate and see what i can find lol
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You will find about 10 different people giving their scorned definition based off their own opinions. Basically the word can be used to fit what ever you want it to.

That tends to happen with things that aren't actual words lol.
Posted by MyStarsShine
I was with four water moons

Not sure what a treetrunkboi is but if it is a man that is promiscuous....no

None of them were

They were all faithful to me


Don't worry, the op doesn't know what it means either LMAO!

Posted by xyinsaturn
So if there is no absolute truth, the world is as it should be.


That's assuming there is no absolute truth. Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it isn't there. People can easily say there is no absolute truth, and as far as a mortal human mind can go they wouldn't be lying. Maybe there is an absolute truth, and the chain ends there. Or maybe it keeps going on for infinity. The second you get to something that looks like truth you just look a little deeper and the chain keeps going. That would prove that information and knowledge is infinite, and as we know our basic mortal minds aren't.
That game was actually pretty fun. I played the treetrunk out of the second on too

Nope. There is only truth. After you've sifted through every single lie at the very end of the chain is a solid truth. It's like fixing a car or computer. It's just a process of elimination till there is absolutely nothing left except the one and only problem making it all malfunction.