Posted by Tenpxd
Here are his placements
Sun aries
Moon sag
Mercury Pisces
Venus aries
Mars Gemini

What are these placements attracted to ?

Good humour, adventure, excitement. Be yourself and make your intentions clear.

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A serious question Straight women.

Would you date a Feminine man?

A man who gets his nails colored done and polished, puts colorful lip gloss on, wears make up, carries a purse and even finds other men sexually attractive. But doesn’t pursue them? And wants to be taken care of for the rest of his life.

And second question I want you to answer.

If No. Then why do some women act out of nature portray masculinity and expect their guys to want them when they barely act feminine.

These are masculine traits:
Independent
Strong
Proud
Loud
Hyper sexual
Dominant

I have. I'm a Venus Aquarius. I like a lil scrange. I've these men (bi-sexual and gay) attracted to me. But, they were super attractive as all the girls wanted them. I was often too scared to fully indulge my Venus. I can get dra-unk off the unusual.

I finally slept with one who was on my ass for months. He was like an angel always looking out for me. I woke up snuggled in his bed a time or two. He cut his hair for me thinking I would take him more seriously. When I finally had sex with him, it was good-bye sex.

And, it was like I was under water, it was so perfect and seamlessly flowing. I thought it so cute my lipstick smeared across his sleeping face when I left. He was about 10 years younger. Cooked for me and my kids, went with us to concerts... Just adorable.

He was a Gemini Sun, Venus Cancer, Mars Pisces.

I could talk about the others but this sweet Gemini was my favorite and the only one I actually sleot with. He looked like a young James Spader. I had to let him go be a man. Went back to Portland, Oregon.

You slept with him why didn’t you stay with him? Or marry him.

People move all the time. People have long distance relationshipss. People make away.

Felt I would stunt his growth.

But you had sex with him?

You give a man you feel you would have stunt your body for what then ?

Sex is an investment.

That’s why most guys want to know how many guys you’ve been with. They say they don’t care but they do. Is all about how much effort did I have to put in compared to this other guy. Not saying your a bad person. But honestly men think and feel they got lucky or earned it every time they got sex. So when they hear other guys got it doing nothing. It makes them feel it’s nothing special no luck no work needed.

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Only men of low esteem think that. I don't care if I date a woman who has had sex with a few men or a lot of men. I don't ask their sexual history and don't expect to be asked about mine.

Jeffrey Epstein's "suicide"
Tony Blair's alleged paedophilia and the reason why his intern staff left after a few weeks.
Police investigation reports on Stephen Lawrence murder case becoming public domain.
The murder of David Kelly.

Surely I can't be the only one who finds armchair psychology really dangerous to society?

Posted by Ixi
I honestly feel that while men who subscribe to Red Pill notions have valid concerns on some things such as an increasing delay in the ability of adults to launch...there are plenty of other things in the space that men totally shifting blame or putting women collectively as a scapegoat for their frustrations.

I agree, but a victim culture has emerged. I've seen it increase more in the last 20 years or so.

It was mentioned by @SassyKiwi of red pillers being overweight. Who can they blame for that? Instagram for giving unrealistic images? Hollywood for the same thing? Covid for gyms being closed? Fast food? Mental health issues? Netflix, streaming video etc for encouraging them to stay in? Women for having high standards? Tinder for being looks obsessed?

From one issue lots of people to blame and that's one issue. It's hard to be motivated, but there's no progress without struggle.

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??? They might be chickeny,impulsive, rude, inconsiderate, ruthless and a lot more but definetly not stuck up, they have this innocent childish unfilteredness which makes them superfriendly, smiley and chatty. Many aries only understand and respect strength not diplomacy. Your brother really needs to be checked harshly. There are some comedies where cool guy becomes a teacher with bratty students, he does something harsh but cool, that would be illegal in real life, but now they respect him.
I would not beat him up, but do something to him and express in great detail how bad his bad behavior is.

I'm not chatty, smiley or super friendly. I only have aries sun and Venus though. I think Aries characteristics manifest themself better with rising.

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A mildly different conversation:

Considering the length and breadth of the conversation do you have time stamps so folks can get to the gist of the conversation more easily?

No, the explicit point is for it to be a longer converstion instead of providing condensed talking points.

Hrm, okay, then summarize if you can. I have been listening for 12 minutes roughly and I would rather not the substance to get lost in the fluff (and there is some fluff here).

Red fills a gap that society hasn't provided for.
Red pill is connected to mens issues.
The problem with constantly labelling everything.
How deficient general discourse has become.
Women need to communicate better and more.
General expectations should be lower and room to make mistakes should be given.

Yea, that is some other stuff that their perspective provides for.

Why do you feel their view on these things is valuable in a consideration of Red Pill?

I'm coming at this from a very meta perspective.

Simply put, I think the discussion format is superior to simple fact stating because it gives the subject room to breath and blossom it's complexity, which is something people in our societies increasingly seem to struggle with. Simple fact and label spouting isn't getting us anywhere and is what, I think partially, leads us to the state and term of non-communcative trench warfare a sociologist coined in regards to "identity politics" I mentioned in the other thread. Meaning that the way we talk about those issues is part of the issue itself, and by trying to deviate from using the formats that currently flourish in online discourse and, to an apparently increasing degree, general discourse, I hope to experiment and find ways that can help us get back from that brink.

Secondly, and a bit more on the matter itself, because I think the first video immediately shoots itself in the foot when he says that he isn't going to take mens issues into account in this video. I understand why he does that in this video format but I think this side of the equation of the problem should be represented as well in this thread if we want to talk about this issue. Even moreso if we, as societies, ever want to solve and move beyond those problems.

What do you consider to be Men's Issues as it pertains to relationships and the views that men "should" have on women?

The increase of men who don't have sex and the increasing age when they lose their virginity.
The lowering amount of men who finish or even enter higher education. Something that can have severe consequences to economics prosperity as well as social standing, which then can impact the "dating market".
Mens lasting inabilties to deal with mental health issues such as depression or even emotions. Or even just talking about it without being judged or reprimanded.
Increasing and lasting insecurity in regards to how dating is done and norms, which of course isn't limited to men alone but a societal problem.

The only normative stand I have towards men how men should approach dating and/or see women is to see them as simply another human being with whom they want to try a journey into the great unknown that is life.
I don't have any final answers on those matters nor am I sure we even should have any at this point.

I read about this recently a lot of men are still virgins when they are 30. I think it's ok if they want that, but as we have seen with incels most don't.

This is where things get muddy, because a part of me can't shake off the impression that at least some amount of them doesn't really want to get laid or be in a relationship.

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Yes I'm sure that's true. I know you have MGTOW but I see them more as guys who have had bad divorces or relationships. What if the person has never dated? Maybe they like it that way, but they must wonder what if...

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A mildly different conversation:

Considering the length and breadth of the conversation do you have time stamps so folks can get to the gist of the conversation more easily?

No, the explicit point is for it to be a longer converstion instead of providing condensed talking points.

Hrm, okay, then summarize if you can. I have been listening for 12 minutes roughly and I would rather not the substance to get lost in the fluff (and there is some fluff here).

Red fills a gap that society hasn't provided for.
Red pill is connected to mens issues.
The problem with constantly labelling everything.
How deficient general discourse has become.
Women need to communicate better and more.
General expectations should be lower and room to make mistakes should be given.

Yea, that is some other stuff that their perspective provides for.

Why do you feel their view on these things is valuable in a consideration of Red Pill?

I'm coming at this from a very meta perspective.

Simply put, I think the discussion format is superior to simple fact stating because it gives the subject room to breath and blossom it's complexity, which is something people in our societies increasingly seem to struggle with. Simple fact and label spouting isn't getting us anywhere and is what, I think partially, leads us to the state and term of non-communcative trench warfare a sociologist coined in regards to "identity politics" I mentioned in the other thread. Meaning that the way we talk about those issues is part of the issue itself, and by trying to deviate from using the formats that currently flourish in online discourse and, to an apparently increasing degree, general discourse, I hope to experiment and find ways that can help us get back from that brink.

Secondly, and a bit more on the matter itself, because I think the first video immediately shoots itself in the foot when he says that he isn't going to take mens issues into account in this video. I understand why he does that in this video format but I think this side of the equation of the problem should be represented as well in this thread if we want to talk about this issue. Even moreso if we, as societies, ever want to solve and move beyond those problems.

What do you consider to be Men's Issues as it pertains to relationships and the views that men "should" have on women?

The increase of men who don't have sex and the increasing age when they lose their virginity.
The lowering amount of men who finish or even enter higher education. Something that can have severe consequences to economics prosperity as well as social standing, which then can impact the "dating market".
Mens lasting inabilties to deal with mental health issues such as depression or even emotions. Or even just talking about it without being judged or reprimanded.
Increasing and lasting insecurity in regards to how dating is done and norms, which of course isn't limited to men alone but a societal problem.

The only normative stand I have towards men how men should approach dating and/or see women is to see them as simply another human being with whom they want to try a journey into the great unknown that is life.
I don't have any final answers on those matters nor am I sure we even should have any at this point.

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I read about this recently a lot of men are still virgins when they are 30. I think it's ok if they want that, but as we have seen with incels most don't.

Psychopath, sociopath, it doesn't matter. If she is a negative influence cut her out of your life.

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Your successful "friend". The real sad thing is say if she is real you need to gossip about her and meddle in her private business. If it's you, having low self esteem sucks balls. If you made the whole thing up really pathetic.

Nope 100% true story. I’m just leaving their names and 1 other thing out. She DOSNT have low self esteem. She’s confident, independent and of high morals very respectful dignified person anybody would be lucky to have her.

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Why are you white knighting her to get in her pants then? You can't control and micromanage other people's lives they have to make their own mistakes. You can only advise people, if they mess up, hopefully they learn from it.

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When a Leo is talking completely ignore them or tell them no one cares

Tell a Taurus they look dirty and smell

Tell a Pisces that their dreams are stupid and delusional and will never happen and the person they like will never love them back

Tell a Cancer they are a horrible mother

Aries is the easiest you can tell them anything and they will get mad LOL

Tell a Sagittarius they are closed minded and insensitive

For a Scorpio you find whatever personality trait they dislike with a passion that they so happen to also have and constantly project onto others, and tell them that they are the exact same way

Tell a Libra they are biased and horrible at explaining things

Tell a Virgo that you do not want them micromanaging you

Tell a Gemini that they are boring

Tell a Capricorn that they are a scrub

Tell an Aquarius they are ignorant and that aliens don’t exist

Just a reminder before anyone attacks me Im only joking and basing these on stereotypes with exception of a few that Im only jokingly basing on the people I know.

I even hurt myself while writing my signs’... it really stings cause Ive been told them before 😐

You're a psychopath.

Are you a Scorpio?

Indeed.

Sorry but that is based on personal experience. The ones I know dislike something about a person with a passion. “So and so is such a ho” meanwhile they used to be a stripper. Then you tell them “But you used to be a stripper ?” they get so angry. Can accuse other people of something that they also do but get angry when you bring that to their attention.

This is true, all Scorpios used to be strippers.

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Cosey Fanni Tutti and arguably Diana Dors.

Your successful "friend". The real sad thing is say if she is real you need to gossip about her and meddle in her private business. If it's you, having low self esteem sucks balls. If you made the whole thing up really pathetic.

I don't drink alcohol anymore. Did a bit of research and I'm receptive to addiction. Back in the day I could really put them away, not that it's anything to be proud of. 🍻