Four neighboring signs in four different elements...That's Me...
Leo Sun, Virgo Moon, Cancer Merc, Libra Venus, Capricorn Mars, Aries Asc.

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im glad that there's someone here who can relate to me 😀😆

erm im gonna hav to check my other placements lol. I'll get.back to you

he doesn't express.himself the way he used.to at the beginning he would tel me.how he feels, but that was right at the start when he said he had feelings, now I'm jst second guessing what he's thinking.all the.time all he ever does is laugh at me n make jokes. I do mention other guys to him.and that they chat me.up and talk to me but he doesn't react in a jealous way really. actually.he starts insulting them and saying get me some real competition but the proper jealousy isn't shown. so I don't know how he really. feels inside.
with regards to him and other.women who knows who he's speaking to behind closed doors. he told me to not.assume anythng and ths ill go crazy but when we were friends purely friends all he would do is check out like literally every single girl who would walk by, like he was one of those guys, he doesn't do that now as much. apart from the other day we were out and he was like if only these women would go for me but what d I have
@candy10 The Leo is showing his jealousy when he starts insulting the other guys. His emotions are more controlled though because he KNOWS you are trying to get an emotional rise out of him. That's the central issue here.

You keep poking at him to get an emotional response, which only makes him more guarded against you. Yes there's fault on both sides here, but if you want this guy to take you seriously, you need to stop with the mind games. He knows what you're doing and he's refusing to respond to it. Remember how I said Leos can be very stubborn.

@Moonlover02 understands. I don't think I know a single Leo that adheres to sex before marriage. I'm sure there are plenty of Leos who do. Having grown up in a in a religious family though, I personally never understood the concept. For me sex is a natural part of a relationship. When handled properly it is both a sign of love and trust. Without it, I can't fully invest myself into the rleationship. It just doesn't feel real to me.

I have to agree with @Ssuperman. There's too much insecurity and immaturity here for this to work.


I understand everything youre saying but the way he's behaving is causing me to in turn get reactions out of.him and play mind games. I feel like he's more immature than me. but he always seems to think he is the more mature one since he continually says I should be a women and act like one. I know what he means by that though he just wants me.to be all over.him.

he mentioned other women too though. he starts it off. like I don't know if.you read the part wher we went out.together and he made a comment when he saw someone else.saying "If oly I could get someone like that but why would she want me" I just thought am I hearing right lol. but as I ws saying the only way tht could b justified him saying somethng like that is because on that day we were talking about my ex and he kep making comment throughout the day saying I look miserable because of him is it because of the ex etc etc
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Whether or not he is more immature is of no consequence, you've chosen to be with him. At the end of the day you can only control your own actions. He's not making you play mind games, you choose to act that way in response to his actions. It's still your choice.

At this point it just seems like we're talking in circles, so I'm going to take Ssuperman's advice and simply say that you either need to stop the mind games or walk away from this guy. Doing neither will only prolong your perdicament.
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Here's my guess.

Aries people, while fun and vivacious can be extremely lazy. They can like their downtime and their naps just as much as their opposite sign Libra. Also his moon is Aquarius, which means he'll be more emotionally detached and may have a hard time socializing and making friends at a young age. He may not feel comfortable around people, instead choosing to keep to himself.

Since he's 7, his only option is to stay inside. He'll appreciate mental stimulation a lot more than the average Aries, so keep him engaged with activities. Give him books to read and games to play. He may enjoy enjoy puzzles of legos/building blocks a lot more. Also see about having some of his friends (one or two) come over to the house. Young children sometimes need help socializing, especially young boys. You may have to engage him in activites with other kids.

With those Taurus placements, he'll enjoy his comfort and homelife. As you already know Tauruses can be homebodies. While his Taurus in Venus may not be playing a huge part right now, his Taurus in Mercury probably is. His entire disposition is probably a calm one. He likes what he likes. So for him, he may not see a reason to go outside. He's probably being a bit stubborn on that front, so you'll need to introduce him to new things.



Thank you for being so detailed! Most of the traits you've mentioned (I'm leaning more towards all) I've seen in him already, from the mental stimulation to the hard time connecting with other kids.. and as well as what he chooses to play on his tablet... and I've said major words like "nocturnal" and such and he was the only one to understand what it meant and was able to explain to the girls. I will follow your advice and have some boys come over that would be a great idea to get him to start engaging. I don't want him to be socially ackward. It's funny he is emotionally detached but I know when he's being loving. He'll lay in bed next to me and just play on his tablet or watch tv real close to me but won't be "mushy" about it. I'm amaze I understand that that's his "love style " maybe cause me being a Taurus I'm a little detached with that too and show actions for love instead of emotional expression.

You helped a great deal. Thank you so so much!

One more thing when he was a baby... he never cried... and never took a pacifier... he was the calmest child I ever known... I thought it was weird but that explained the Aquarius part he never ever cried.


Funny, I didn't cry as a baby until I was 2, which is when I found out I could cry to get what I wanted.

The main thing to consider when it comes to Aqua sun/moon people children is that they can appear to be awkward (or different) to others. They have a unique way of thinking and acting. You may find that he will have a hard time forming bonds with other kids aside from maybe one or two. Even then those relationsihps may be difficult.

As he grows older he'll learn to keep those "weird" parts of him hidden to everyone, even you. Aqua kids don't understand why they are different and why society has a hard time accepting their "weirdness". They are also very independent and have a hard time asking for help, choosing to do things on their own. They don't like to appear weak. So just be aware of that independent streak.

Leo kids and Aqua kids aren't terribly dissimilar. The main contrast is that Leos kids learn to hide our weirdness and accept convention. We learn to "care" what other people think. We're still creative deep down, but find more "socially acceptable" avenues to express ourselves. Aquas on the other hand don't believe in convention or being "socially acceptable". So instead they detach and find their own paths.

Also you may notice that he's a technophile. He probably loves technology and gadgets, hence his fascination with the iPad. A gaming console or computer games may make it easier for him to socialize with other kids. Just be mindful that the games are age appopriate.


Wow. Yes yes and yes... you're making me even reconsider his ADHD... because he is too smart... not genius smart just common sense or something don't know how to explain it. We talk like grown ups when we're alone and he blows me away cause I read a lot. My girls have found their path (they love to draw art and my other girl sings like me) yet I still have not found what his nitch is yet... I've been looking out for it but still I cannot... but yes! You are absolutely correct about the technology he is fascinated with the iPad the Xbox, and now an old iPhone I passed down to him. I do monitor what he plays (the iPad sends me approval for games being their under 14)... and I notice he doesn't or can't stay still he must be stimulated. So I will read with him more too to help his brain grow more now. He knows how to turn things on and off that the girls don't... and he's the first one to volunteer to get it done everytime "I got this" he says ... and yes his independence irritates me lol. I thought I was independent but my lord this boy don't even want you buttoning his shirt or tying his shoes.. I thought it was a child thing just being stubborn but my girls love for me to do things for them.

You have helped me see my son in a totally different light. Like my eyes are open. Thank you because now I'll be extra attentive to nurture his traits.


If you find that he's too fidgety to sit and read a book, try audio books instead.


Oh wow... never thought of that and that is a great freaking idea! Thank you!
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Yup Audible is $ 15 a month. So you should be able to load up audio books onto the iPad for him.
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im glad that there's someone here who can relate to me 😀😆

erm im gonna hav to check my other placements lol. I'll get.back to you

he doesn't express.himself the way he used.to at the beginning he would tel me.how he feels, but that was right at the start when he said he had feelings, now I'm jst second guessing what he's thinking.all the.time all he ever does is laugh at me n make jokes. I do mention other guys to him.and that they chat me.up and talk to me but he doesn't react in a jealous way really. actually.he starts insulting them and saying get me some real competition but the proper jealousy isn't shown. so I don't know how he really. feels inside.
with regards to him and other.women who knows who he's speaking to behind closed doors. he told me to not.assume anythng and ths ill go crazy but when we were friends purely friends all he would do is check out like literally every single girl who would walk by, like he was one of those guys, he doesn't do that now as much. apart from the other day we were out and he was like if only these women would go for me but what d I have
@candy10 The Leo is showing his jealousy when he starts insulting the other guys. His emotions are more controlled though because he KNOWS you are trying to get an emotional rise out of him. That's the central issue here.

You keep poking at him to get an emotional response, which only makes him more guarded against you. Yes there's fault on both sides here, but if you want this guy to take you seriously, you need to stop with the mind games. He knows what you're doing and he's refusing to respond to it. Remember how I said Leos can be very stubborn.

@Moonlover02 understands. I don't think I know a single Leo that adheres to sex before marriage. I'm sure there are plenty of Leos who do. Having grown up in a in a religious family though, I personally never understood the concept. For me sex is a natural part of a relationship. When handled properly it is both a sign of love and trust. Without it, I can't fully invest myself into the rleationship. It just doesn't feel real to me.

I have to agree with @Ssuperman. There's too much insecurity and immaturity here for this to work.
Everyone else said it all. Your friend got scammed. Tell her to drop the guy and be more mindful of who she marries.
Depends on the kid, but generally Leo kids like being around people they know. It really depends on the Leo's moon sign too. A Sag Moon may be more outgoing, but could also be very shy. The Gem rising could either make a Leo kid very social, or very skittish.

A Leo will easily cling to those they care about, since we like what is familiar to us. Socializing a Leo kid with other children helps us broaden our social circle. Leos make friends easily though, especially with other Leos.

I preferred hanging around my parents and being at home until I started making a lot of friends in the first grade. I had friends before that, but nothing permanent. I also liked being at home as opposed to other people's houses. Once I made a few solid friends I had no problem sleeping over their houses. Those friendships also lasted a long time.

I would say that Leo kids need to be taught how to socialize properly. It's a lifelong skill that will help us as we mature.
Barack and Michelle Obama are this combo. It can work as long as their goals are solidly aligned. I'm not a big fan of this combo in romance personally, but I understand it. I also tend to attract Capricorn energy.

That being said Leo and Caps make really good friends.
Fixed signs often date fixed signs. We understand each other's black and white way of thinking. We also have no problem owning and being owned in a relationship with a person we trust.

On top of that Taurus and Scorpios are two sides of the same coin. There are some things they intrinsically understand about each other.
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Here's my guess.

Aries people, while fun and vivacious can be extremely lazy. They can like their downtime and their naps just as much as their opposite sign Libra. Also his moon is Aquarius, which means he'll be more emotionally detached and may have a hard time socializing and making friends at a young age. He may not feel comfortable around people, instead choosing to keep to himself.

Since he's 7, his only option is to stay inside. He'll appreciate mental stimulation a lot more than the average Aries, so keep him engaged with activities. Give him books to read and games to play. He may enjoy enjoy puzzles of legos/building blocks a lot more. Also see about having some of his friends (one or two) come over to the house. Young children sometimes need help socializing, especially young boys. You may have to engage him in activites with other kids.

With those Taurus placements, he'll enjoy his comfort and homelife. As you already know Tauruses can be homebodies. While his Taurus in Venus may not be playing a huge part right now, his Taurus in Mercury probably is. His entire disposition is probably a calm one. He likes what he likes. So for him, he may not see a reason to go outside. He's probably being a bit stubborn on that front, so you'll need to introduce him to new things.



Thank you for being so detailed! Most of the traits you've mentioned (I'm leaning more towards all) I've seen in him already, from the mental stimulation to the hard time connecting with other kids.. and as well as what he chooses to play on his tablet... and I've said major words like "nocturnal" and such and he was the only one to understand what it meant and was able to explain to the girls. I will follow your advice and have some boys come over that would be a great idea to get him to start engaging. I don't want him to be socially ackward. It's funny he is emotionally detached but I know when he's being loving. He'll lay in bed next to me and just play on his tablet or watch tv real close to me but won't be "mushy" about it. I'm amaze I understand that that's his "love style " maybe cause me being a Taurus I'm a little detached with that too and show actions for love instead of emotional expression.

You helped a great deal. Thank you so so much!

One more thing when he was a baby... he never cried... and never took a pacifier... he was the calmest child I ever known... I thought it was weird but that explained the Aquarius part he never ever cried.


Funny, I didn't cry as a baby until I was 2, which is when I found out I could cry to get what I wanted.

The main thing to consider when it comes to Aqua sun/moon people children is that they can appear to be awkward (or different) to others. They have a unique way of thinking and acting. You may find that he will have a hard time forming bonds with other kids aside from maybe one or two. Even then those relationsihps may be difficult.

As he grows older he'll learn to keep those "weird" parts of him hidden to everyone, even you. Aqua kids don't understand why they are different and why society has a hard time accepting their "weirdness". They are also very independent and have a hard time asking for help, choosing to do things on their own. They don't like to appear weak. So just be aware of that independent streak.

Leo kids and Aqua kids aren't terribly dissimilar. The main contrast is that Leos kids learn to hide our weirdness and accept convention. We learn to "care" what other people think. We're still creative deep down, but find more "socially acceptable" avenues to express ourselves. Aquas on the other hand don't believe in convention or being "socially acceptable". So instead they detach and find their own paths.

Also you may notice that he's a technophile. He probably loves technology and gadgets, hence his fascination with the iPad. A gaming console or computer games may make it easier for him to socialize with other kids. Just be mindful that the games are age appopriate.


Wow. Yes yes and yes... you're making me even reconsider his ADHD... because he is too smart... not genius smart just common sense or something don't know how to explain it. We talk like grown ups when we're alone and he blows me away cause I read a lot. My girls have found their path (they love to draw art and my other girl sings like me) yet I still have not found what his nitch is yet... I've been looking out for it but still I cannot... but yes! You are absolutely correct about the technology he is fascinated with the iPad the Xbox, and now an old iPhone I passed down to him. I do monitor what he plays (the iPad sends me approval for games being their under 14)... and I notice he doesn't or can't stay still he must be stimulated. So I will read with him more too to help his brain grow more now. He knows how to turn things on and off that the girls don't... and he's the first one to volunteer to get it done everytime "I got this" he says ... and yes his independence irritates me lol. I thought I was independent but my lord this boy don't even want you buttoning his shirt or tying his shoes.. I thought it was a child thing just being stubborn but my girls love for me to do things for them.

You have helped me see my son in a totally different light. Like my eyes are open. Thank you because now I'll be extra attentive to nurture his traits.
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If you find that he's too fidgety to sit and read a book, try audio books instead.
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Here's my guess.

Aries people, while fun and vivacious can be extremely lazy. They can like their downtime and their naps just as much as their opposite sign Libra. Also his moon is Aquarius, which means he'll be more emotionally detached and may have a hard time socializing and making friends at a young age. He may not feel comfortable around people, instead choosing to keep to himself.

Since he's 7, his only option is to stay inside. He'll appreciate mental stimulation a lot more than the average Aries, so keep him engaged with activities. Give him books to read and games to play. He may enjoy enjoy puzzles of legos/building blocks a lot more. Also see about having some of his friends (one or two) come over to the house. Young children sometimes need help socializing, especially young boys. You may have to engage him in activites with other kids.

With those Taurus placements, he'll enjoy his comfort and homelife. As you already know Tauruses can be homebodies. While his Taurus in Venus may not be playing a huge part right now, his Taurus in Mercury probably is. His entire disposition is probably a calm one. He likes what he likes. So for him, he may not see a reason to go outside. He's probably being a bit stubborn on that front, so you'll need to introduce him to new things.



Thank you for being so detailed! Most of the traits you've mentioned (I'm leaning more towards all) I've seen in him already, from the mental stimulation to the hard time connecting with other kids.. and as well as what he chooses to play on his tablet... and I've said major words like "nocturnal" and such and he was the only one to understand what it meant and was able to explain to the girls. I will follow your advice and have some boys come over that would be a great idea to get him to start engaging. I don't want him to be socially ackward. It's funny he is emotionally detached but I know when he's being loving. He'll lay in bed next to me and just play on his tablet or watch tv real close to me but won't be "mushy" about it. I'm amaze I understand that that's his "love style " maybe cause me being a Taurus I'm a little detached with that too and show actions for love instead of emotional expression.

You helped a great deal. Thank you so so much!

One more thing when he was a baby... he never cried... and never took a pacifier... he was the calmest child I ever known... I thought it was weird but that explained the Aquarius part he never ever cried.
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Funny, I didn't cry as a baby until I was 2, which is when I found out I could cry to get what I wanted.

The main thing to consider when it comes to Aqua sun/moon people children is that they can appear to be awkward (or different) to others. They have a unique way of thinking and acting. You may find that he will have a hard time forming bonds with other kids aside from maybe one or two. Even then those relationsihps may be difficult.

As he grows older he'll learn to keep those "weird" parts of him hidden to everyone, even you. Aqua kids don't understand why they are different and why society has a hard time accepting their "weirdness". They are also very independent and have a hard time asking for help, choosing to do things on their own. They don't like to appear weak. So just be aware of that independent streak.

Leo kids and Aqua kids aren't terribly dissimilar. The main contrast is that Leos kids learn to hide our weirdness and accept convention. We learn to "care" what other people think. We're still creative deep down, but find more "socially acceptable" avenues to express ourselves. Aquas on the other hand don't believe in convention or being "socially acceptable". So instead they detach and find their own paths.

Also you may notice that he's a technophile. He probably loves technology and gadgets, hence his fascination with the iPad. A gaming console or computer games may make it easier for him to socialize with other kids. Just be mindful that the games are age appopriate.
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Don't worry, Aries.
It was your first time on the highway, this time fear got the best of you.
Next time you'll own it and pass.
Do what needs to be done


This.

And PRACTICE!
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Agreed. I had my dad drive around with me before I did driver's ed. I was comfortable driving before I even took the class. That helped a lot.
Here's my guess.

Aries people, while fun and vivacious can be extremely lazy. They can like their downtime and their naps just as much as their opposite sign Libra. Also his moon is Aquarius, which means he'll be more emotionally detached and may have a hard time socializing and making friends at a young age. He may not feel comfortable around people, instead choosing to keep to himself.

Since he's 7, his only option is to stay inside. He'll appreciate mental stimulation a lot more than the average Aries, so keep him engaged with activities. Give him books to read and games to play. He may enjoy enjoy puzzles of legos/building blocks a lot more. Also see about having some of his friends (one or two) come over to the house. Young children sometimes need help socializing, especially young boys. You may have to engage him in activites with other kids.

With those Taurus placements, he'll enjoy his comfort and homelife. As you already know Tauruses can be homebodies. While his Taurus in Venus may not be playing a huge part right now, his Taurus in Mercury probably is. His entire disposition is probably a calm one. He likes what he likes. So for him, he may not see a reason to go outside. He's probably being a bit stubborn on that front, so you'll need to introduce him to new things.

She'll be around. She may flirt or "annoy" you. She'll probably even tell you.
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Now that I have your attention.

💗

Hey Leo pride.

I have a crush. Not quite sure yet what I want to do about it. But I thought I'd drop in, toss out an abridged chart for the willing to comment on and request the usual 'plz tell me all the good, the bad and the ugly on Scorpio and Leos.'

Leo Sun
Taurus Moon
Cancer Mercury
Virgo Venus
Gemini Mars

He's hot, funny, kind and warm natured. We flirt a lot. That's about it currently.


That was a dirty trick, but not a bad way to get a Leo's attention. You might as well pull this on the Leo guy, just be sure to have cupcakes and backrubs ready.

As for your compatibility, only you can tell us that. I dated a Leo Sun/Taurus Moon woman years ago. They are pretty laid back and fun loving. They can also take their time in love and need to feel comfortable with their partner first. Leos and Tauruses (and Scorpios) both want loyalty, so consistency is key here. They like simple, genuine gestures of affection as well but can be full of passion.

As a Cancer Mercury he will tend to think through his responses, taking into account how people may feel. This means he will have a knack for elocution and storytelling (joketelling as well). Cancer Mercury people don't make snap decisions, not because we think slowly, but because we have a wealth of knowledge to consider. If we are forced to make a snap decision we will. We however prefer to take in the atmosphere around us first when possible. This makes us very intuitive. You'll realize a Cancer Mercury may have categorical knowledge regarding their environment for no reason at all if you give them enough time.

Virgo Venus means he will like a woman who loves through action. One who is organized and handles the details. He will do this himself and probably be a very analytical person as a result. Attention to detail and possibly a somewhat critial nature may be what he's attracted to and how he expresses his love. He loves through acts of service more than anything else.

Gemini Mars means will will have a lot of projects going at once. He will be fun and charming, but his focus may bounce around a lot. He'll need to keep his mind active, so great conversation and mental stimulation are king here. He will be expressive, wanting to show affection with his words more than anything else. He may not come across as romantic, but more friendly in his pursuit. He will keep things light, at least in the beginning. He may even seem to change his mind a lot, so just go with it.

Overall slow and steady wins the race here. Just be genuine and not too pushy. Be direct and consistent with what you want, but not overbearing. His Leo Sun and Cancer Mercury will understand your need for passion and emotion. His other placements will need more time to come around to the idea of love, so keep things steady.

Beyond that, having dealt with a lot of Scorpio women, I always put a warning out there. Leo/Scorpio relationships start off fun and then get VERY intense. This isna't always a bad thing, but it can very well end that way. Both parties demand loyalty and passion to an extreme degree. Both can become obessessive and jealous, making compromises between the two difficult. Make sure to keep the dark traits between you two at a minimum. Don't let arguments drag on and don't harbor resentment/grudges. You two may have different approaches in life, so be sure to appreciate the differences instead of resenting them.
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im not high maintenance at all its just the lack of anyting.from him gets me thinking if he wants me at all now so then when he says he can't meet it gets me.thinking. also I can't stand people who lie, he said he had to help his friend with his.wedding when his friends wedding is next week n mostly it's the.women who do all the planning not thr men and saying he has to spend an entire week doing that while the next week he couldn't meet either becsuse it's his friends wedding (ome day) seemed a bit suspicious. and already that weekend I knew he had.gone out with his friends so where was the planning with his.friends then? why not just.just say I want to spend time with my..friends .more than you currently. I would have appreciated that more.

I was offended at his comments about how mt appearance isn't good enough for.him well apparently.it's.good enough for him to wanna hug and kiss and be all over.me when I meet.him.


That's fair, but if I had to guess he lied because he wanted to hang out with his friends and didn't want to create any drama between you. As I mentioned in my response, it does seem like you have a tendency to nag him a bit. If I had to guess he lied to avoid creating an issue. Granted he should have been straight forward with you, but at the same time you should probably lighten up a bit too.

That's not to say that you should let him walk over you. Next time voice your complaint directly and clearly. Don't get upset and stop communicating with him. Leos will typically laugh off an argument we don't wish to have. It's our way of lightening the mood and calming the other person down. This is especially true when we don't understand the source of the anger/argument.

The Leo guy probably thought that you were blowing this out of proportion. If he's incorrect, you need to explain to him why. Shutting down and giving him the silent treatment only hurts you in the long run and ultimately solved nothing.


last week actually he said to me I've.got.a giant ego according.to him and that's why he avoids telling me something iv done wrong beca use he knows ill take it the wrong way and he doesn't wnna have a dispute with me or.argue with me


Sounds about right. Virgos can often be very critical and Leos often don't like to be criticized. Again it's not right that he lied, but also look at why he did it. If everything winds up blowing up into a dispute between you two, that explains a lot. Also look at WHAT he lied about. He shouldn't have to lie to you so that he can hang out with his friends. There's a lack of trust here between you two that is very troubling.

but surely you only lie if you're scared of losing the person otherwise why lie just be straight with them. why would he.care if we hav a dispute.. unless he is afraid of how ill be towards him


Because it's emotionally and mentally exhausting, especially when the matter is trivial. If a guy thinks you're going to get upset or every little thing, he's eventually going to avoid telling you the truth altogether (or ghosting on you). The truth has no value if it's constantly being met with an argument.

Also remember that Leos are positive people and usually optimists at heart. We generally don't enjoy negativity. If your viewpoint is more pessimistic, this is a turn off for us.


Well I stopped all that for a long time, the arguing, I just took on board and accepted evry negative thing he ws saying and doing, for a long long time I couldn't even be bothered to bring all that stuff up I just accepted his lousy ways..but only.recently it started to bother me again.

one of the lousy things he does is no matter how late at night it is he won't drop me off right outside the rail station even though its practly a minute drive by car...he's too lazy to do that. so I'll hav to make all th.the effort to walk all the way there. he's just selfish that's how I see it. and that's jst one more thing where he doesn't show he cares. hll say oh let me know when you're home or like if I get into any trouble but by the time I messge him he's asleep already. so doesn't even wait around to see if I reached my destination. ok that's just me going off on another topic but I'm saying I put up with a lot from him


At this point, my advice is to move on and find someone who cares about you. Sounds like there's been a lot of emotional immaturity between you two. If this guy is selfish, then you should do the self respecting thing and drop him. By sticking around, you're only perpetuating is behavior.

I guess so. I mean it's not like he's a complete marker but it's just the complacency Is annoying
with regards to romance..Its feels more like an ok friendship to me with some benefits
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If the relationship feels platonic, then it's a waste of your time if that's not what you want. My only advice for the future is to avoid the "friendship" labels and get straight to the point. It's less confusing that way.
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yea I know as usual ill have to be the one to contact.him or intitiate first. but what's new hey.

anothrr thing with the exes he would show some amount of anger if they do anything terrible to him. with me all he does is laugh in his messages lik im a big joke and say I've gone "crazy" ye he seems to find me quite hilarious apparently. Instead of being lik alright candy ill listen to what you're saying. this is why I took the passive agressive route since so he can realise his mistake...since talking doesn't help. maybe he can start to miss me.and feel lik he lost me.so he will take me.seriously next time. then again might b too optimistic there. fair enough if I knew he was just that type of person with evryone but again since iv seen his serious side with the exes and with me he jst laughs at evryting i do I feel like he cares less about me than anyone else.

I also saw pics from his friends wedding on instagram he seems to be gettin on perfectly fine without me, showing off to his 700 female followers. and doing hashtags. no sadness there.for sure. just gettin on with his life as if I wasn't a big part of it.


Well that's the problem. Whenever you go silent, he KNOWS you're going to come back. The passive aggressive game runs thin on Leos FAST. Once we realize we are being manipulated, we either get angry and ghost OR we manipulate back. Either way, it's not the outcome you'd want.

Remember that Leo is a fixed sign, so we think in terms of black and white primarily. Actions should always have permanence in our minds. If you leave us, then be prepared to stay gone. Once you come back, you've show your lack of resolve. That's when a Leo knows you're only playing mind games.

It also possible that since the two of you haven't been physical, he may not be taking this connection very seriously. As I mentioned before, men are biologically seeking a physical connection. That doesn't mean you should feel pressured into having sex with him. If you don't believe in sex before marriage, definitely stick to that. This however may not be the right guy for you.


I was gonna come back and say actually I only came back because I remember u owed me money so as.to not look.a fool . also it's his birthday coming up but I was.only.going.was.only.going.to say happy belated so purposely not messge him on the day.

ye thr.first.time when i was angry at him over meeting it didn't last that long.since he was actually trying.to cheer.me.up and trying so I gave up with my.attitude.and he goes well that.didn't last long.did it. and he laughed.about it. n im jst lik thiking.does he want me to really go away or.something youre not meant to say such a thing if u want.to keep someone around.

anyway I know.it's been mind games.so far but in reality I can. see myself cutting him off.for good at one point least when he expects it.

I know you said it.seems lik im more invested but ironically enough it was him who said he had feelings for me.right at the start when we were just friends. so he started off wanting it all. and again at the time he mentioned sex and how he could then open up to me.if we went on holiday togther.and talk to me.about his feelings. needless.to say that.didn't happen and also at that time according to him I chose another guy over.him then he proceeded to go back to his ex whilst still having me in his life like I am now. but emotionally Investing in her. bt tht.didn't work out then he came back to me and did say he didn't forget what I did. essentially all I did was.go to prison and.visit another guy who I had history.with. but I never stopped talking to this guy and obv.the other one was in prison so nothng.could happen there anyway and nothjng.did bt he saw it as a betrayal I actually.frget tht happened but when I say to him well u left.me.fr ur ex. he always says well don't frget.what u did.


Ok you seriously need to stop playing the mind games. Don't make up any excuses if you want to talk to him, he'll know it's not the entire truth. He;s going to see right through the facade.

While the Leo may have wanted to start things in the beginning, I can tell he became less invested over time. Every time you go and come back, it gives him a thicker skin. By the time you decide to leave for good, he'll probably be over it. Leos are stubborn, so we're not usually the ones to leave first, but we do have out limits. So it's possible he's already checked out emotionally.

Another thing to know is that every fixed sign (Taurus, Leo, Scorpio, Aquarius) holds loyalty above ALL else. For whatever reason this Leo feels like you have some unfinished business with your ex who is in prison. I can tell you right now that the Leo doesn't fully trust you and has chosen to keep you at arm's length. This is also why he's having trouble opening up to you.

When you started talking to your ex, he decided to seek out his ex in retaliation. He kept the door open for you to return, but he hasn't forgotten this slight to his pride. As a result he's been very non chalant about his approach toward you. My advice is if you want this Leo to take you seriously, he needs to know that he's #1 in your eyes. Stop bringing in third parties into it. If you choose to reconnect with exes, just know your Leo will not take this lightly. Leos want to own our partner's heart. Until have that, we won't move forward.


Well I see it as I visited the guy in prison twice after that nothing happened really but I was still there for the other guy. I didn't leave him behind or ignore him. but what he did was say im in thr middle of talkig to him he would go off for hours ignore what ignore sayig to go talk to his ex. so I would feel abandoned..and pretty much a.whole year I felt like I was thr second choice and when I mention it he jst kept bringing up the prison guy an im like I didn't ignore you for the prison guy or leave you behind.. whereas weeks and weeks would go by where he would be off with his ex and I wouldn't hear from him so what he did was much much worse.


For Leo those details don't really matter. A betrayal is betrayal to us (remember we are black and white). If you're having problems with a Leo, then talk it out with us. The LAST thing you'd want to do is start talking to someone else. At that point all bets are off. That's not to say that every Leo would act in this matter. If it were me I would've cut ties and burned the bridge.

If hewas talking to his ex first that would be different a different story. However it sounds like he only started talking to his ex when you started talking to yours. At which point he lost all respect for you and chose to treat you poorly in the process.

let me try explain it better. him and his ex had a relationship she left him because she went to another country but they stil continued contact like a long distance relationship. at that time I was still talking to the guy who went to prison but then he went to prison and me.and leo guy became better friends and better aquainted.we strted meetig up more and more while he was still talking to that girl obv I wasn't speaking to the prison guy as hd gone for.good. then leo guy suddenly comes out with I have feelings for you bare in mind he still in contact with the other one, then he says he wil leave the other one for me if I tell him he should and that I will b his, I was unsure so I didn't do this. and so we carried on stil while he's talking to the ex and then the rest happened whereby I met the other one in prison and he told me not to go and if i go it's over, I didn't agree with this ultimatum, so I went, I saw it as I'm seeing someone who is.is depressed in prison, doesn't matter who it is I would go c them, he took it as a betrayal and the rest followed.. he went back to the ex and started trying harder with her and ignored me.for a year
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Got it. In that case it appears the line are blurry. You didn't actually betray the Leo because you two weren't actually in a relationship. Likewise you can't be mad about his actions really because you two werent actually in a relationship. There seems to be immaturity and passive aggressive behavior on both sides.

Honestly, I think your best best is to find a person whose values match your own. That way you can get the appreciation you desire. This Leo guy doesn't sounds like he's interested in giving you emotional stability that you crave. The relationship sounds like it's more toxic than anything else.
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im not high maintenance at all its just the lack of anyting.from him gets me thinking if he wants me at all now so then when he says he can't meet it gets me.thinking. also I can't stand people who lie, he said he had to help his friend with his.wedding when his friends wedding is next week n mostly it's the.women who do all the planning not thr men and saying he has to spend an entire week doing that while the next week he couldn't meet either becsuse it's his friends wedding (ome day) seemed a bit suspicious. and already that weekend I knew he had.gone out with his friends so where was the planning with his.friends then? why not just.just say I want to spend time with my..friends .more than you currently. I would have appreciated that more.

I was offended at his comments about how mt appearance isn't good enough for.him well apparently.it's.good enough for him to wanna hug and kiss and be all over.me when I meet.him.


That's fair, but if I had to guess he lied because he wanted to hang out with his friends and didn't want to create any drama between you. As I mentioned in my response, it does seem like you have a tendency to nag him a bit. If I had to guess he lied to avoid creating an issue. Granted he should have been straight forward with you, but at the same time you should probably lighten up a bit too.

That's not to say that you should let him walk over you. Next time voice your complaint directly and clearly. Don't get upset and stop communicating with him. Leos will typically laugh off an argument we don't wish to have. It's our way of lightening the mood and calming the other person down. This is especially true when we don't understand the source of the anger/argument.

The Leo guy probably thought that you were blowing this out of proportion. If he's incorrect, you need to explain to him why. Shutting down and giving him the silent treatment only hurts you in the long run and ultimately solved nothing.


last week actually he said to me I've.got.a giant ego according.to him and that's why he avoids telling me something iv done wrong beca use he knows ill take it the wrong way and he doesn't wnna have a dispute with me or.argue with me


Sounds about right. Virgos can often be very critical and Leos often don't like to be criticized. Again it's not right that he lied, but also look at why he did it. If everything winds up blowing up into a dispute between you two, that explains a lot. Also look at WHAT he lied about. He shouldn't have to lie to you so that he can hang out with his friends. There's a lack of trust here between you two that is very troubling.

but surely you only lie if you're scared of losing the person otherwise why lie just be straight with them. why would he.care if we hav a dispute.. unless he is afraid of how ill be towards him


Because it's emotionally and mentally exhausting, especially when the matter is trivial. If a guy thinks you're going to get upset or every little thing, he's eventually going to avoid telling you the truth altogether (or ghosting on you). The truth has no value if it's constantly being met with an argument.

Also remember that Leos are positive people and usually optimists at heart. We generally don't enjoy negativity. If your viewpoint is more pessimistic, this is a turn off for us.


Well I stopped all that for a long time, the arguing, I just took on board and accepted evry negative thing he ws saying and doing, for a long long time I couldn't even be bothered to bring all that stuff up I just accepted his lousy ways..but only.recently it started to bother me again.

one of the lousy things he does is no matter how late at night it is he won't drop me off right outside the rail station even though its practly a minute drive by car...he's too lazy to do that. so I'll hav to make all th.the effort to walk all the way there. he's just selfish that's how I see it. and that's jst one more thing where he doesn't show he cares. hll say oh let me know when you're home or like if I get into any trouble but by the time I messge him he's asleep already. so doesn't even wait around to see if I reached my destination. ok that's just me going off on another topic but I'm saying I put up with a lot from him
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At this point, my advice is to move on and find someone who cares about you. Sounds like there's been a lot of emotional immaturity between you two. If this guy is selfish, then you should do the self respecting thing and drop him. By sticking around, you're only perpetuating is behavior.
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I am a virgo with a scorpio moon. and I think he also has a scorpio moon aswell. I kinda found out the other day much to my surprise given his lack of emotional expression.

youre right he was burned in the past in the sense his relationships didn't work out and he seemed to "love" those girls..unlike me.clearly 😮. one of the exes is married now and I'm pretty sure he would hav married her. I don't necessarily expect a love note tht was just an example of the extent he went to with others. It would be nice if he gave me somethng.though, a couple of words even but no hes too stubborn. all he says is oh u don't like all that anyway..in a way I'm not a particularly gushy person myself in terms of what I say to a guy but if needed I would say something from time to time bt since I don't get tht from him I don't say it to him either. fr example he will ask me if I missed him or prod me to say I have bt when I do the same he will avoid the subject. like wtf.

fair enough men are taught to hold back on emotions and women are taught to show them but since ive seen how previously expressive he was with the exes he has that in him


Ah, I see now. So the main issue is you're both holding back from one another. The problem is you're expecting him to show up in a way that you're not showing up yourself. If you expect something to grow, you must first plant the seed.

This is a common problem between Leos and Virgos. A Leo may be more expressive but we are also still on guard. Virgos are calculated and express love through actions more so than words or affectionate displays. The issue is you two speak two different love languages.

For the Leo guy he shows that he cares by being around you (which is common for Leos). If a Leo is constantly around you, that means we care. My guess is he's holding back because you are not demonstrative. The other women probably were, which made him more comfortable. Have you tried being as gushy as you want him to be?


Ihe told me once that in order.to get.someome to open up you have to start.things off and he said he did that with his ex. he's so understanding.when it.comes.to them. I havnt been gushy not properly but I hav said.things to him like he's my best friend and I tink on the odd.occasion I did but stopped promptly when I didn't get much back.

I think he enjoys being around me because once we went to the beach not.too long ago and even after all those hours in another city he was lik let's.go catch a movie even though it ws practicly the.end of.the.night so he tries to prolong our long days out too. but I mean sometimes getting him to come out is.a chore. but when we are together it's.fine


That's another issue between Leos and Virgos (or men in women too). No guy wants to hear, "you're my best friend" from the woman he's dating. I've noticed Virgos tend to throw this word around a lot more to downplay their emotions. Leos don't respond this though. We want partners who offer a degree of passion (something we can't get from anyone else). We also generally have a lot of friends (or a solid social circle). The last thing we are looking for is a "friendship" when it comes to romance.

Leos also respond to the direct approach, since we admired strength. A partner who can be upfront with us about their feelings will win us over a lot faster. So if things seem to be too platonic, a Leo won't put in too much effort.



they say thr best relationships are based on friendship.though so if he was my best friend that doesn't mean. to say he's just my.friend..but.also my.friend aswell as more

I did read the messages from his ex to him..and she was very very gushy, she would use words lik honey baby and I love you ths much ..and you know how women can be extra sweet to their man.so she was lik that..but he responded in kind. I don't think I could be too much like that because I just find that too much like pass me the sick bucket however if he was even ten per.cent towards me how he was with her I would try to open up more. but I guess me and him hav a different kind of relationship and maybe I am partly to blame.

also when for example I'd b sitting in the car with him his now ex would message and hd b so quick uo react


"They" say a lot of things. I'm always the first to say that friendship doesn't necessarily breed romance. There is a reason guys are constantly trying to avoid being put in the "friendzone" by women. Likewise most women will say that they aren't attracted to the men they see as "just friends".

As a result trying to be friends first often creates more confusion than anything else. It's usually a strategy employed to avoid awkwardness and potential rejection. This however often means that two people aren't necessarily being genuine with each other.

Yes, feelings can arise between friends though. It happens. Yes, you do want to be best friends with the person you're dating as well. However if want a romance, then the focus should be on a romantic relationship, not a platonic one. Drop the "friend" labels and be clear with what you want.

As you've already admitted, your Leo is gushy with gushy women. He displays affection to those who are affectionate toward him. It's plain as day. If that's what you want from him, you already know what you must do. It doesn't make sense to get upset with him about something you're not capable of doing yourself. In this way you're just being a hypocrite.

Practice the golden rule. Treat others the way you wish to be treated. If you want him to be emotionally open, then you need to be emotionally open. If you don't want him talking to exes, then YOU shouldn't talk to exes. Work on how you're showing up first before criticizing him. If you're doing everything right and he's still messing up, then call him out on it.


I am capable of it. but he needs to start it off. he's the man. evry guy iv ever known whther it be for one day or twenty years has always been pursuing me and been emotionally open with Me first. but even when I tried with him before on my own he just ignored it. but maybe tht wss when he was stil taking to his ex i guess
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That's not going to happen, so you're going to have to let go of your pride on this one. You're the one who wants the affection, he seems indifferent to it. If you want something from a Leo (or anyone), you have to be bold enough to do what's necessary to get it.

Also look at it this way, how much time/attention did you give those other guys who were gushy and chasing you? Probably not nearly as much as you're spending right now talking to some random stranger online about this Leo guy who ISN'T gushy toward you. So why should a man put forth that much emotional effort, if it gets him nowhere? Yes there are men out there who will chase you and be gushy all on their own, but you're not worrying about them right now.
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yea I know as usual ill have to be the one to contact.him or intitiate first. but what's new hey.

anothrr thing with the exes he would show some amount of anger if they do anything terrible to him. with me all he does is laugh in his messages lik im a big joke and say I've gone "crazy" ye he seems to find me quite hilarious apparently. Instead of being lik alright candy ill listen to what you're saying. this is why I took the passive agressive route since so he can realise his mistake...since talking doesn't help. maybe he can start to miss me.and feel lik he lost me.so he will take me.seriously next time. then again might b too optimistic there. fair enough if I knew he was just that type of person with evryone but again since iv seen his serious side with the exes and with me he jst laughs at evryting i do I feel like he cares less about me than anyone else.

I also saw pics from his friends wedding on instagram he seems to be gettin on perfectly fine without me, showing off to his 700 female followers. and doing hashtags. no sadness there.for sure. just gettin on with his life as if I wasn't a big part of it.


Well that's the problem. Whenever you go silent, he KNOWS you're going to come back. The passive aggressive game runs thin on Leos FAST. Once we realize we are being manipulated, we either get angry and ghost OR we manipulate back. Either way, it's not the outcome you'd want.

Remember that Leo is a fixed sign, so we think in terms of black and white primarily. Actions should always have permanence in our minds. If you leave us, then be prepared to stay gone. Once you come back, you've show your lack of resolve. That's when a Leo knows you're only playing mind games.

It also possible that since the two of you haven't been physical, he may not be taking this connection very seriously. As I mentioned before, men are biologically seeking a physical connection. That doesn't mean you should feel pressured into having sex with him. If you don't believe in sex before marriage, definitely stick to that. This however may not be the right guy for you.


I was gonna come back and say actually I only came back because I remember u owed me money so as.to not look.a fool . also it's his birthday coming up but I was.only.going.was.only.going.to say happy belated so purposely not messge him on the day.

ye thr.first.time when i was angry at him over meeting it didn't last that long.since he was actually trying.to cheer.me.up and trying so I gave up with my.attitude.and he goes well that.didn't last long.did it. and he laughed.about it. n im jst lik thiking.does he want me to really go away or.something youre not meant to say such a thing if u want.to keep someone around.

anyway I know.it's been mind games.so far but in reality I can. see myself cutting him off.for good at one point least when he expects it.

I know you said it.seems lik im more invested but ironically enough it was him who said he had feelings for me.right at the start when we were just friends. so he started off wanting it all. and again at the time he mentioned sex and how he could then open up to me.if we went on holiday togther.and talk to me.about his feelings. needless.to say that.didn't happen and also at that time according to him I chose another guy over.him then he proceeded to go back to his ex whilst still having me in his life like I am now. but emotionally Investing in her. bt tht.didn't work out then he came back to me and did say he didn't forget what I did. essentially all I did was.go to prison and.visit another guy who I had history.with. but I never stopped talking to this guy and obv.the other one was in prison so nothng.could happen there anyway and nothjng.did bt he saw it as a betrayal I actually.frget tht happened but when I say to him well u left.me.fr ur ex. he always says well don't frget.what u did.


Ok you seriously need to stop playing the mind games. Don't make up any excuses if you want to talk to him, he'll know it's not the entire truth. He;s going to see right through the facade.

While the Leo may have wanted to start things in the beginning, I can tell he became less invested over time. Every time you go and come back, it gives him a thicker skin. By the time you decide to leave for good, he'll probably be over it. Leos are stubborn, so we're not usually the ones to leave first, but we do have out limits. So it's possible he's already checked out emotionally.

Another thing to know is that every fixed sign (Taurus, Leo, Scorpio, Aquarius) holds loyalty above ALL else. For whatever reason this Leo feels like you have some unfinished business with your ex who is in prison. I can tell you right now that the Leo doesn't fully trust you and has chosen to keep you at arm's length. This is also why he's having trouble opening up to you.

When you started talking to your ex, he decided to seek out his ex in retaliation. He kept the door open for you to return, but he hasn't forgotten this slight to his pride. As a result he's been very non chalant about his approach toward you. My advice is if you want this Leo to take you seriously, he needs to know that he's #1 in your eyes. Stop bringing in third parties into it. If you choose to reconnect with exes, just know your Leo will not take this lightly. Leos want to own our partner's heart. Until have that, we won't move forward.


Well I see it as I visited the guy in prison twice after that nothing happened really but I was still there for the other guy. I didn't leave him behind or ignore him. but what he did was say im in thr middle of talkig to him he would go off for hours ignore what ignore sayig to go talk to his ex. so I would feel abandoned..and pretty much a.whole year I felt like I was thr second choice and when I mention it he jst kept bringing up the prison guy an im like I didn't ignore you for the prison guy or leave you behind.. whereas weeks and weeks would go by where he would be off with his ex and I wouldn't hear from him so what he did was much much worse.
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For Leo those details don't really matter. A betrayal is betrayal to us (remember we are black and white). If you're having problems with a Leo, then talk it out with us. The LAST thing you'd want to do is start talking to someone else. At that point all bets are off. That's not to say that every Leo would act in this matter. If it were me I would've cut ties and burned the bridge.

If hewas talking to his ex first that would be different a different story. However it sounds like he only started talking to his ex when you started talking to yours. At which point he lost all respect for you and chose to treat you poorly in the process.
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im not high maintenance at all its just the lack of anyting.from him gets me thinking if he wants me at all now so then when he says he can't meet it gets me.thinking. also I can't stand people who lie, he said he had to help his friend with his.wedding when his friends wedding is next week n mostly it's the.women who do all the planning not thr men and saying he has to spend an entire week doing that while the next week he couldn't meet either becsuse it's his friends wedding (ome day) seemed a bit suspicious. and already that weekend I knew he had.gone out with his friends so where was the planning with his.friends then? why not just.just say I want to spend time with my..friends .more than you currently. I would have appreciated that more.

I was offended at his comments about how mt appearance isn't good enough for.him well apparently.it's.good enough for him to wanna hug and kiss and be all over.me when I meet.him.


That's fair, but if I had to guess he lied because he wanted to hang out with his friends and didn't want to create any drama between you. As I mentioned in my response, it does seem like you have a tendency to nag him a bit. If I had to guess he lied to avoid creating an issue. Granted he should have been straight forward with you, but at the same time you should probably lighten up a bit too.

That's not to say that you should let him walk over you. Next time voice your complaint directly and clearly. Don't get upset and stop communicating with him. Leos will typically laugh off an argument we don't wish to have. It's our way of lightening the mood and calming the other person down. This is especially true when we don't understand the source of the anger/argument.

The Leo guy probably thought that you were blowing this out of proportion. If he's incorrect, you need to explain to him why. Shutting down and giving him the silent treatment only hurts you in the long run and ultimately solved nothing.


last week actually he said to me I've.got.a giant ego according.to him and that's why he avoids telling me something iv done wrong beca use he knows ill take it the wrong way and he doesn't wnna have a dispute with me or.argue with me


Sounds about right. Virgos can often be very critical and Leos often don't like to be criticized. Again it's not right that he lied, but also look at why he did it. If everything winds up blowing up into a dispute between you two, that explains a lot. Also look at WHAT he lied about. He shouldn't have to lie to you so that he can hang out with his friends. There's a lack of trust here between you two that is very troubling.

but surely you only lie if you're scared of losing the person otherwise why lie just be straight with them. why would he.care if we hav a dispute.. unless he is afraid of how ill be towards him
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Because it's emotionally and mentally exhausting, especially when the matter is trivial. If a guy thinks you're going to get upset or every little thing, he's eventually going to avoid telling you the truth altogether (or ghosting on you). The truth has no value if it's constantly being met with an argument.

Also remember that Leos are positive people and usually optimists at heart. We generally don't enjoy negativity. If your viewpoint is more pessimistic, this is a turn off for us.
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yea I know as usual ill have to be the one to contact.him or intitiate first. but what's new hey.

anothrr thing with the exes he would show some amount of anger if they do anything terrible to him. with me all he does is laugh in his messages lik im a big joke and say I've gone "crazy" ye he seems to find me quite hilarious apparently. Instead of being lik alright candy ill listen to what you're saying. this is why I took the passive agressive route since so he can realise his mistake...since talking doesn't help. maybe he can start to miss me.and feel lik he lost me.so he will take me.seriously next time. then again might b too optimistic there. fair enough if I knew he was just that type of person with evryone but again since iv seen his serious side with the exes and with me he jst laughs at evryting i do I feel like he cares less about me than anyone else.

I also saw pics from his friends wedding on instagram he seems to be gettin on perfectly fine without me, showing off to his 700 female followers. and doing hashtags. no sadness there.for sure. just gettin on with his life as if I wasn't a big part of it.


Well that's the problem. Whenever you go silent, he KNOWS you're going to come back. The passive aggressive game runs thin on Leos FAST. Once we realize we are being manipulated, we either get angry and ghost OR we manipulate back. Either way, it's not the outcome you'd want.

Remember that Leo is a fixed sign, so we think in terms of black and white primarily. Actions should always have permanence in our minds. If you leave us, then be prepared to stay gone. Once you come back, you've show your lack of resolve. That's when a Leo knows you're only playing mind games.

It also possible that since the two of you haven't been physical, he may not be taking this connection very seriously. As I mentioned before, men are biologically seeking a physical connection. That doesn't mean you should feel pressured into having sex with him. If you don't believe in sex before marriage, definitely stick to that. This however may not be the right guy for you.

ye I said something to him and.to him it was personal lik I asked.somethng of.him I can't remember what exactly but he was lik we are not on that level yet since we havnt even had sex. and I ws.shocked that he said.that.since.to me we've.already gone past.so many levels having known each other.so long. I gues for men itz.always about sex *rolls eyes* he also said love Is not emotional it's.also physical a physical connection


I wouldn't say that it's only about sex for men, but you have to understand how each gender operates. Sex is very much engrained into how our species operates. As I mentioned before you really should find a guy who feels the same way about sex as you do. This Leo probably feels as his physical needs are not being met, so he sees no point in meeting your emotional needs. To him it's just a lot of work with little reward. This may also be why he let you walk away so easily.


it's not like we are not physical at all ...he does a lot of other.things but I don't let it gt to the full on sex stage..

yeh maybe it is a lot of work with little reward according to him but I suppose my values are different to his, I see it as we hav a strong friendship and we get along really well apart frm these glitches..and so I soldier on and try to keep a hold of it..I guess all he's busy doing is watching.videos.with half-naked women and sending them to me so we.aint on the same page. I don't mean he watches pornos I mean jst "comedy" videos were the.women are pretty looking and wearing next.to nothing he's.constantly watching those bt im pretty.sure he watches.thrm for the women since I don't.find that thy are even that funny...and then the other day he sent me a.video of another.an other.women with ball skills...but she ws in a bikini so again Im pretty.sure it's not because he was impressed.with her skills bt jst so he could see her in a bikini. and then he goes to me if only.candy could.do that. which was probably yet another.thing to lead.up to my outburst at the end
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Correct, it sounds like your values are not aligned with his. Also know that sex is more than the physical act. Nothing else quite matches it. The effects is has on the human body chemically, physically, and psychologically are very unique.

Regardless if you two can't see eye-to-eye on this matter, it's best to find someone who matches your mindset.