Formerly QuietStorm, ScorpioTruth, PhoenixStorm

Posted by MyStarsShine

Posted by ImperfectStorm
To be honest, you’re probably not going to get her back. She probably feels like “I don’t even know who the treetrunk this dude is” 🥴 if you can hide your own child from her for 3 years she will only wonder what else you’re hiding. More than anything I feel sad for your son! Men will stop at nothing to get some new kitty SMDH 🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️

It’s very sad especially as the gf’s daughter was in his life!
That makes it even worse!
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Right I was thinking he was hiding an addiction to porn, or sexting some other chick. But he’s living a whole double life. 🤯

To be honest, you’re probably not going to get her back. She probably feels like “I don’t even know who the treetrunk this dude is” 🥴 if you can hide your own child from her for 3 years she will only wonder what else you’re hiding. More than anything I feel sad for your son! Men will stop at nothing to get some new kitty SMDH 🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️

Posted by bri
What did you lie about and why?

Ok i'll spill it out

When we met, honestly we weren't looking for a relationship but our energy matched on our first day out and it was awesome. On our first night, some psychic saw how compatible we are and gave some revelations that she held so close to her. She opened up before I did, I don't open up so easily ( I'm a Virgo libra Cusp).

Anyways she revealed the same week we met that she was involved with someone but didn't see any future with that person. I also was in the same position but I didn't reveal that. It took me 3 months to reveal that information but I also didn't reveal that we also have a son together, and as at that time he was 7 months old. When I revealed that information, she asked me if there was anything else i needed to tell her and I said no. I ended the relationship with my son's mom but i wasn't ready to tell my Scorpio woman about my child, meanwhile i had a great relationship with her daughter.

Well fast forward to last week, I revealed to her about my son and she lost it.

I admit i didn't handle the situation very well.

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Posted by bri
Great point. I am working on myself. I'll be starting therapy next week to dig deep and take a look at myself. I have told her that i am working on myself and I'll be seeing a therapist and she should give me time.

Depending on the rest of her chart, you might stand a chance. It will take work though. What is your sign?

Posted by MysteriousScorpio
If I were her I don’t know if I could ever go back to the way things were. It’s been tainted. Sure, I could probably forgive in time, but I could never forget. Things like that get burned into my mind. At best you two might be able to salvage a friendship.....possibly more in time, but things could never ever be like they were. For me, if I give someone my all.....nothing but unconditional love and I find out they’ve been lying to me it’s like they are laughing in my face. Like they just spit on my love and disrespected it as if it meant nothing to them. As if they didn’t take our relationship seriously. That’s a deep hurt that’s difficult to recover from. At least for me.

I agree it will probably never be the same even if you do get her back. She will always be looking at you with the side eye since you’ve already proven yourself to be dishonest. Again, this depends on the lie and the weight of it.

The best way I can describe what it’s like after breaking a Scorpios trust is like a vase.. once that vase (trust) has been shattered or broken, you can attempt to glue it back together again, but it will still have cracks and the integrity of the vase will be weakened.

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Posted by ImperfectStorm
She still responds because scorps love unconditionally. Your deceptive behavior isn’t going to get her out of character and turn her into something she’s not. She will stay true to herself but even while she might still love you, she’s probably over the relationship. We already struggle with trust, it doesn’t come naturally to us. There’s nothing we want and need more in a relationship than to feel emotionally safe with someone. If the trust is gone, I would not hold your breath. Depending on how many lies you’ve told, she may or may not be willing to try to reconcile. It really depends on the extent of the damage done.

The best way to build trust with a scorp is to never betray it in the first place.

So do i stop communicating with her and remove myself? I really messed up and mentally it’s disturbed me how bd I’ve hurt her. I really want her in my life even as friends if relationship won’t work out. She’s an amazing person

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That’s your call honestly, whatever you need to do for yourself. She is going to be ok either way. The question is what do you need to do for yourself? I would look inward to figure out why you need to lie to people to keep them close. You will keep repeating that pattern with other women until you do some deep digging. Usually when we lie to cover up truths it’s because of shame or fear of being rejected or not accepted for our truths. The funny thing is, scorps actually don’t shy away from the dark side of people. If you had been honest with her she probably would have accepted you wholly even with your secrets or shame.

As a last ditch effort, you can try to talk with her about WHY you lied once you discover the true reason. She might be willing to help you unpack that but you need to be willing to be vulnerable with her. Intimacy and trust is built through vulnerability. Apologies aren’t always enough for a scorp because anyone can apologize.. it’s a temporary bandaid on a festering wound. But if you can dig down to the root cause of the infection and show her that you’re doing the work to make sure it never happens again, I think you might stand a chance. But empty promises mean nada.

She still responds because scorps love unconditionally. Your deceptive behavior isn’t going to get her out of character and turn her into something she’s not. She will stay true to herself but even while she might still love you, she’s probably over the relationship. We already struggle with trust, it doesn’t come naturally to us. There’s nothing we want and need more in a relationship than to feel emotionally safe with someone. If the trust is gone, I would not hold your breath. Depending on how many lies you’ve told, she may or may not be willing to try to reconcile. It really depends on the extent of the damage done.

The best way to build trust with a scorp is to never betray it in the first place.

My sister is a Virgo. Love her to death but one thing I’ve tried to explain to her is that if someone calls you to talk or vent, sometimes they just want someone to listen and not always looking for advice or opinions

Posted by IAteMyGrandmaInMonkeyTown

Posted by ImperfectStorm
Ummm I’d say it’s pretty obvious why puffy/pouty lips are sexy lol

Also known as dick sucking lips lol

Nah, not that.

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Well I agree they’re both sexy ladies

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Posted by ImperfectStorm
Do you mean the expression on their face? With the bedroom eyes and pouty lips?

Eyes yes, but the lips especially. I have seen this before.

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Ummm I’d say it’s pretty obvious why puffy/pouty lips are sexy lol

Also known as dick sucking lips lol

Do you mean the expression on their face? With the bedroom eyes and pouty lips?

Posted by Wizardz

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Posted by Wizardz
They say love changes everything
What about unrequited love. Does that change everything too?

Unrequited love isn’t love at all. That’s just toxic worship 😬🚫

Don't you think you can feel love for someone and not have it returned in the same way? I don't think it's toxic to love, regardless if it's one-way or not

Yeah you can have love for someone that doesn’t love you back but at some point you’re going to have to choose between yourself or them. The reason unrequited love is toxic is because we often lose ourselves while loving someone who is unable to reciprocate that love, essentially emptying our tank to fill theirs and not being filled back.

You just summed up my entire childhood 🙄
Yes, I agree at some point it needs to morph into new love for yourself perhaps

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My childhood too I speak from experience. We live and we learn. The hard way sometimes, unfortunately 😕

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Posted by Wizardz
They say love changes everything
What about unrequited love. Does that change everything too?

Unrequited love isn’t love at all. That’s just toxic worship 😬🚫

Don't you think you can feel love for someone and not have it returned in the same way? I don't think it's toxic to love, regardless if it's one-way or not

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Yeah you can have love for someone that doesn’t love you back but at some point you’re going to have to choose between yourself or them. The reason unrequited love is toxic is because we often lose ourselves while loving someone who is unable to reciprocate that love, essentially emptying our tank to fill theirs and not being filled back.

Posted by Wizardz
They say love changes everything
What about unrequited love. Does that change everything too?

Unrequited love isn’t love at all. That’s just toxic worship 😬🚫

Posted by Wizardz
I would go for 3) Change yourself

Are you a mutable sign?

1. Just be myself and if he doesn’t like me then he doesn’t like me and it’s not meant to be. 🤷‍♀️
2. Thank you, next.

Posted by KaryB21

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Ofc that it is possible, but most of the time, the feelings will be one-sided, and the person hoping for something more will end up being hurt or disappointed. But that's the risk that the person needs to take. I just think that when the two right people find each other, then things spontaneously lead to something more serious over time, because they realize how much they enjoy being with each other, and caught themselves thinking more often about the other person when they are not close to them, they start missing that person, and so on. I know a lot of success stories out of fwb thing, so anything is possible.

We do enjoy each other’s company for the most part until an issue arises. Rather than deal with the issue at hand he’ll tell me he’s done. He’s said that about 3 times but we always find our way back to each other

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Ugh he probably has mood swings galore with all those heavy personal planets in cancer 😬 there was a cancer sun/cancer moon guy that was interested in me for a while and his mood swings were worse than mine sometimes. Oy. Lol

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Posted by KaryB21
Thanks all for your insight. When we first met I was the one that pushed for us to become intimate so fast. On our first date I initiated the kiss and his response was that he was surprised and was not expecting that. I’ve been told from people around him that he is a relationship and commitment kind of guy. He’s expressed feelings for me before we became intimate. My issue is that he appears to be infatuated physically with me but not emotionally. Is it possible to build an emotional connection with him?

He has a mushy cancer moon and a fixed sun sign (Taurus) like him, I am a Scorpio sun (also fixed) and cancer moon. Yes it’s definitely possible to build an emotional connection with him, especially since your moons are sextile and his moon is trine with your sun. I’m currently involved with a Pisces with a Virgo moon and Virgo moon and cancer moon go cushy together. In my opinion, I do think it could become something serious if you ALLOW it. You said you’re the one that’s been indecisive, right? His fixed sun sign looks for stability. So don’t keep toying with his emotions and make sure you really want to be with him before trying to get him hooked on you again. With your Aries Mercury you probably can be hasty and cutting with words.. which is probably hard on his sensitive cancer moon and would probably make him want to scuttle backward into his shell after arguments. So keep that in mind, cancer moons have a habit of holding onto past hurts and harmful words.

You described our situation to the T. I can be very hasty and impulsive with my words. I say what’s on my mind at the time with no regrets smh. He’s not a confidential person so usually when I get going he withdraws until he just gives up. It sucks but I’m learning more about him each day. Haven’t really paid much attention to the other placements but this is good to know. I just assumed he’s a Taurus because of his sun sign and Taurus are known for being stubborn which he is lol. I can tell he’s very emotional but he keeps it all inside. He’s sensitive but he hasn’t shown me that part of him yet.

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Yeah a cancer moon will be very guarded. We can be in love with you but won’t let you know it until we feel safe and secure with you. The only downside to you being indecisive makes him feel like you’re not sure about him, which makes it difficult for him to be sure about you. The best approach in my opinion is to just allow yourself to be vulnerable with him and if you want more than a FWB this time around, express that to him and that might help him come out of his shell. You had a valid reason to be reluctant with him when he was fresh out of a relationship, but now it’s been a year since his breakup so now would honestly probably be better timing anyway. But allow yourself to be open and vulnerable with him and he will do the same. There is of course always a chance that he won’t feel the same as the first time, but great things require great risk so you’re going to need to try to put yourself out there, it’s the only way you will find out. I honestly think once you make him feel safe that will open doors back up for you. Transparency is the way to go with cancer moon.