Oh and make it clear to him that you're worth an EXPLANATION and not some downright stupid answer like him being a weird guy. What's that?! He's avoiding telling you something, or he tries to deny something to himself.
I'm a Leo and recently had an awful experience with a Virgo. Well, she found someone else after months of awkwardness and ignorance from both parts. I was very slow paced because I feared rejection, I tried to find the perfect moment. But you already have a relationship wit this guy.
He seems odd to me. Why would he be shy when he knows for a fact that you like him? Maybe deep down he's really insecure. He might put up an act he's comfortable with, but he can only take it so far. His nonchalant act around others might be fear of public rejection from you.
When I've been with girls and been sure we liked each other equally I never held back on anything. If I've been insecure in te beginning of a relationship I wait for her to declare her love for me, which you seem to have done. I say confront him again! If he gives you the same bullbutter answers he can't be that into you and you should move on.
In case you remember me.. I just found out that Virgo girl is seeing someone, and I learned the hard way by actually seeing it with my own eyes. Thanks anyway for your nice advice. I hope it won't be wasted on me. Take care.
Once again a special thanks to StringsAttached!! P-Angel, I'm perfectly aware of the differences in conversation. I see Shaks point. It was all mainly about my miserable situation, but it derived from an interest in getting to know someone's personality. Hence the astro connection.
Shaks... I did not create this with the purpose to enjoy any freakin' drama. I NEEDED advice. I got GREAT advice, but I needed confidence. I was working on it. I tried to convince myself that I'd get where I wanted. To give a positive feel to it. I don't think it's irrelevant that she's a Virgo. And I did get past the eye contact phase!! We did talk! Too little. But still.
I know it went on painfully long. I say WENT. After reading this I KNOW that you will say I have myself to blame. I know!!!!! I am sharing this with you since I feel I owe it to you, who have cared in one way or another. I guess it was good timing with your recent comments in mind.
Was out last night, walking in thoughts. Thinking about her of course. There was a couple standing the way I was headed. It looked like her. Not quite sure I slowed down, picked up my phone as if I got a message or smth. That gave me a chance to take a closer look. Yeah, there she was. Holding some guy's hand. Kissing. I pressed the keys to my phone like some maniac. Looking busy. Thinking: Should I turn back or walk by her? By Them. She saw me. The guy left. I kept walking her way. She smiled at me. Of course she smiled, she was apparently in love.
She mouthed a hi. Stupid as I am I slowed down. Almost stopped before her. She kept looking at me. All those things I longed to tell her. They vanished there. All these months of longing. Those short weeks of nice little talks. Those stupid little snacks I brought her. None of that mattered. I guess I mouthed a hi too. But unlike her I didn't smile.
As I walked by her, she started to walk the other way. But she stopped. I turned to look at her, and she turned to look at me. As if she wanted to say something but forgot that HEY, there's NOTHING more to say. I kept walking. There was no compassion in that look, she was simply happy. Maybe she realized afterwards that Mr. Loser just had his heart broken all over the place. Maybe that's what she saw and liked it. Why do I have to think about it?!
I don't think she's been seeing him that long. This explains why she went away. I feel empty. But I'll be fine. Thanks to all who gave their time.
Shaks...You've already expressed your opinion. I don't see why you would contribute to this "waste of space" or whatever you called it. Seriously. Do you intervene in a conversation on the street between people who never addressed you and make comments how pointless you think they are? If you don't like it - ignore it. It's really simple, trust me.
Hey Strings and you all. You might have figured out that no great progress has taken place. I think she's away on holidays. Dammit!! But it was good until then!! She seemed to have made up her mind not to ignore me and to actually smile at me. The last few times we met I really felt at ease around her!! Thing is, I've been on a project at work which doesn't make it possible for me to have little chats with her. It will be like that for another week.
I'm soooo happy that she must've thought about me since she acts much nicer. You know it makes me more confident. But then maybe she was just happy that she's going away on holidays (or where ever she went). I know she didn't quit, thank god!
It's just so damn typical that when it finally feels so good there's nothing to do but wait. Again!! But I will. Wait. Again.
Yeah, the spotlight is a re-assurance thing for me. It's so much easier if someone who likes you actually shows it! But with her I have already given up on a great part of that. I accept less attention, and Xtina I agree that it can drive you crazy in a good way, once you're sure that he/she likes you despite the lack of attention. I've actually uspected that SHE likes it when she ignores me 'cause she might notice that I pay HER more attention that way.
Thanks guys!! Really appreciated. I'm in a crazy ride with her for sure. There's all the innuendo, the guessing, the show she sometimes puts up with her friends. Her ignoring me a little too much. It has taken so much time of my life this far, trying to figure her out. I think she' worth it for some reason. But her being a Virgo probably adds to certain traits that are hard as hell for me to understand. So once again - Thank You for the insights!!!!
Clair De Lune and Jackie O - I'm happy to provide you with entertainment!! Leos are made for that, right? I'm also thankful for your opinions and advice.
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!! So here we are, yet almost another week gone. And... She is keeping her distance, she will not come near me. I repeat: She will NOT come near ME. I know what you're thinking!! "Ya little kitty cat, why don't YOU go near HER?!" She is now surrounding herself with her friends. None of them are friends of mine. IN FACT, some of them are friends of her ex boyfriend. Yessss.. She hangs out with her EX BOYFRIEND'S friends. Nothing new, but I haven't seen that for a while. I'm thinking uh oooooh.... Not. A. Good. Sign. Very. Worrying. Me. Hurting.
Let me remind you that her ex boyfriend (The Dick) knew that I liked her when they were dating, and he tried to intimidate me with his Crazy Dick stare and shouting whatever after me with those very people SHE is now hanging out with! But they all ignore me now that The Dick is out of the picture. Oh GOOOOOODDDD!!! Nightmare scenario: The return of The Dick. With her. Nah... She's too smart to take him back.
She also spends more time with certain girlfriends, who for sure knows about my "crush" on her from long, long ago. That's interesting. Actually! Because I wonder what they talk about, knowing that I have started to approach her again.
I just want alone time with her again, that's all I need. God knows what this will lead to but I HAVE to give it a try. That's what's on my mind right now. To be continued.
Yeah, I expressed myself ridiculously. I have no intentions of asking her out with mind reading. You guys have explained this very well, but I was hoping for her to stop ignoring me for no reason. Not happening! I get that. Will never bring that up again.
I'm young, not too young for her though, and I've been with people before. Those flings, yes "flings" cause they were short and intense and not anything I even wanted to last, developed very naturally. I've been too lucky in the past, having fortunate circumstances.
I fear rejection A LOT!! Especially since I care much for her, but then rejection is a part of life. And I know there's not much more you can say at this point.
I intend to poop (reference to your last comment)!! I really, realy want to poop.
Strings - I still don't get why I have to ask her out as I'm sure she knows my intention. Why does she need me to put my actions into words when they speak for themselves? She knows, she's not stupid. Once again I'm looking for that little hint that tells me we're good to go. Also, she did give me a gaze which lasted more than normally during one of those small talks. After that she has pretty much given me the cold shoulder.
So she NEEDS me to tell her verbally, 'cause she's terrified to lose face if I was to reject her? Phew! If she's interested in me then she must suffer just as much as I am. Lol.
I've been all over the Virgo forum, babbling about my frustration over a lady I have liked for over a year now. A Virgo lady. We used to be like friends, though we never met outside work.
She knew I liked her but she found someone else. So she ignored me until she became single again. She started moving in my social circles again, at work. Pretty good sign, huh? That's what I thought! I've been trying to break some hard ice for some time now.
I've finally started to talk to her more, even though she has NOT been very inviting. I even gave her some snacks I know she loves! That's like saying "I love you forever!!" Really, has any Leo had any positive experience with Virgos?
I think most of us Leos are straightforward when we want someone. Even as a shy guy I have made it obvious that I like her, she knows it. I think Virgos are less likely to rush into relationships. Not that it would be a rush, I've waited over a year to get a chance with her! The Virgo forum has been great, but I'd like to know from my fellow meow-meows too!
Did you ever win a Virgo heart? What made them warm up to you? Sometimes I'm not sure if she's acting shy, or if she's actually ignoring me. One day she'll act interested just to ignore me the next. Of course she might not be interested! But... She might be playing the Myterious Virgo game. So... spill the beans you who know!!
For every step forward there are at least 10 steps backwards. Earlier this week we had many opportunities to talk again. Instead of even saying hi (again!!!!!) she avoided eye contact with an almost-smile. Like she smiled because she saw me, but it was a POLITE smile. But she didn't even look me in the eye!! We were close enough for her to say hi. The only good news is that later that day she glanced at me. Yep! The Glance! Makes a guy feel wanted! But apart from that...
She really doesn't see me as a friend. Might be a good sign, but then if she saw me as a friend I would actually feel like I had a chance. I can't believe it's still like this!! I'm thinking she really doesn't care for me. I just don't know. Man, I thought I'd know for sure after starting to talk to her.
Time for an update!! Nothing much happened for the longest time. Until recently, when I finally realized how boring it was to be a COWARD KITTEN. It was like I woke up from some psychosis. Ugh... You were so patient with my whining here! You know how much I like some of you for that!
We have engaged in some small talk, on my initiative of course. It's not like we're going on any dates any time soon though. I still sense some resistence in her. But it's better now that we at least talk. And... I gave her some of her favourite snacks lately. It will take its natural course from here. Either she'll warm up to me or not.
The reason I didn't do it today was because honstely I was too stunned and had no idea what to say. And I understand if you don't care anymore, but I thought I'd let you know and by this time tomorrow I hope I have good news. I never meant to undermine your advice. My low confidence suck and I'm SO sick of that. Plus I wanna make you guys a little happy knowing your encouragement is much appreciated. Crossing my fingers for tomorrow.
I see where you're coming from. But you know what... I have GOOD news! She said hi to me and smiled. You're probably thinking "so what?!". With all right. But I promise you if we meet tomorrow I WILL strike up a conversation. I PROMISE!!!!!!
Thanks. You have a great point. I often don't see the forest for all the trees. Ask anyone here! I'm sure there's still a lot I can't see. I'll check your story in the coming days. For me, I think the best thing is to let it be. If she cares at all she will "soften up" after a while and approach me again. Or I will finally get over her. .
unbroken - well... I'll give you the background again. She knows that I HAVE been into her. For sure. I know it, her friends know, her ex knows and pretty much everyone else around here. That was about a year ago. We did talk back then before she got together with her ex. In my mind I was flirting with her. I did it all except actually say it to her in words. Yeah, 'cause I'm a wuzz or whatever I know!!
Now that she's free again, she has started to move around me more. But the last weeks, she must've changed her mind as she has stopped saying hi and basically ignores me. If she wanted to talk to me she would do it! We have talked before! We have laughed together, she has let her hands reston various (non-erogenous) parts of my body as we have talked in the past! So really, yes I'm a coward but she knows it, and I "lost" her before. She has completely ignored me the last time we met, before I gave up. If she won't even say hi... She's simply not into me. For sure. Too bad I have to go through all this ranting to get over it.
But I thank you for routing for me!! If she can bring herself to aknowledge my existance again, I hope to make it worth your while.