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Posted by tiziani
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Posted by tiziani
I'm a little confused because I don't know what question you're trying to answer.

Your 7th house lord is Mercury yeah (if you're using modern astrology rules)

But I've never found looking at house rulers or lords useful outside of horary.

in horary 7th house ruler would be a person = your partner

And your partner would be involved in anything to do with your personal space (7th house ruler in 3rd, 3rd = physically close relationships) as an example.
Sometimes I use rulers in progressions but not often.


I kind of have. I mean its small but I notice small connections. Like my 5th house ruler being in the third. I would find small talk and even small rides romantic. I must admit that's kinda true for me. When I was younger that was kind of a date for me. To pick a girl up and just ride around town and talk for hours. I know the 3rd house represents much more. Like siblings amd the 5th house being children. Both of my siblings conceived before me. Even my son already had a brother before he was birthed. So that's another way. One more was that i took my sister and brother with me everywhere when I was young. We used to hang out, play pick up basketball/football or the Xbox for hours at a time. Even my cousins, we all used to have fun together. My 5th house is empty but the themes are merged with the 3rd house in my eyes.


My 9th house ruler is in the 2nd. Needless to say I dont have the funds to go on trips across the country. I have lived far away from home but first thru college and the use of financial aid and then I found a steady job and just stayed.

My 8th house ruler is in the 2nd also and man lol i have been robbed before, I was in a relationship with someone who was using me for money lol, i have been approached by a woman who was well off but gave me controlling vibes. Sex and money go hand and hand in my past life.

Those are just stabs in the dark but I feel like the house ruler being in another house I feel like it merges the meanings of both houses.


So when you look at it in natal, do you look at the planet as always a part of yourself or as a person in your life? Or it depends on other factors for the meaning?

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Well for me its neither honestly. I look at it as themes. I view them as recurring situations that even if we change we will continue to face. Or at least it catches our attention more.
Posted by tiziani
I'm a little confused because I don't know what question you're trying to answer.

Your 7th house lord is Mercury yeah (if you're using modern astrology rules)

But I've never found looking at house rulers or lords useful outside of horary.

in horary 7th house ruler would be a person = your partner

And your partner would be involved in anything to do with your personal space (7th house ruler in 3rd, 3rd = physically close relationships) as an example.
Sometimes I use rulers in progressions but not often.


I kind of have. I mean its small but I notice small connections. Like my 5th house ruler being in the third. I would find small talk and even small rides romantic. I must admit that's kinda true for me. When I was younger that was kind of a date for me. To pick a girl up and just ride around town and talk for hours. I know the 3rd house represents much more. Like siblings amd the 5th house being children. Both of my siblings conceived before me. Even my son already had a brother before he was birthed. So that's another way. One more was that i took my sister and brother with me everywhere when I was young. We used to hang out, play pick up basketball/football or the Xbox for hours at a time. Even my cousins, we all used to have fun together. My 5th house is empty but the themes are merged with the 3rd house in my eyes.


My 9th house ruler is in the 2nd. Needless to say I dont have the funds to go on trips across the country. I have lived far away from home but first thru college and the use of financial aid and then I found a steady job and just stayed.

My 8th house ruler is in the 2nd also and man lol i have been robbed before, I was in a relationship with someone who was using me for money lol, i have been approached by a woman who was well off but gave me controlling vibes. Sex and money go hand and hand in my past life.

Those are just stabs in the dark but I feel like the house ruler being in another house I feel like it merges the meanings of both houses.

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Posted by Redbull
Interesting theory. I dont know how much the cosmos recognizes recent human ideas of "race". How hard is a "color line" when people have ancestors from all over the globe too. People are a mix for the most part and you cant tell by look necessarily. Do any lines really exist? Not to the extent some have "taken" them I dont think. Interesting and can get pretty deep as it goes on as a stream of thought.



Although we are all connected it is hard to say that they don't exist. Maybe they weren't meant to. You take a civilization like Rome of the past and no there werent any color lines there. You were either Roman or enemy. You come to America where there were laws against a certain color and then yea it comes into play.

Now im not saying Pluto is designated to a particular race. But his themes correalte strongly to the struggles of that race but like I said its only theory. Not even that just a different look


The only color Africans recognize is green.

Look this country does a butter load on a person mental state

Don't drink the poison
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Obviously. I know all about how treetrunked up africa is starting with the ppl that run it.
Posted by CaramelizedCoffee
So black ppl as in American blacks

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Or African Americans whichever term you prefer but yea pretty much. I havent found a way to connect it to black ppl as a whole but it does resonate strongly with the american struggle
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Amazing Leo activist


Didnt know he was a Leo I dont know how I couldn't lol and yea he is man. Ive seen a few of his videos and i think henmade a documentary. He def. isnt for the close minded
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Posted by Redbull
Interesting theory. I dont know how much the cosmos recognizes recent human ideas of "race". How hard is a "color line" when people have ancestors from all over the globe too. People are a mix for the most part and you cant tell by look necessarily. Do any lines really exist? Not to the extent some have "taken" them I dont think. Interesting and can get pretty deep as it goes on as a stream of thought.



Although we are all connected it is hard to say that they don't exist. Maybe they weren't meant to. You take a civilization like Rome of the past and no there werent any color lines there. You were either Roman or enemy. You come to America where there were laws against a certain color and then yea it comes into play.

Now im not saying Pluto is designated to a particular race. But his themes correalte strongly to the struggles of that race but like I said its only theory. Not even that just a different look


Yeah its a relatively new idea and science has shown that the "color lines" are not what they have been made out to be. To the point of laws against people with a different skin tone. But again, this line of thought could get pretty deep. Darker skinned people are "children of the Sun" so to speak which correlates to the light...another possible way to look at it. Dont know how that part plays into Pluto but thats another angle I guess.
I think I get how your not so much focusing on the "race" part as much as situations.

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Ok I didn't know there was a scientific thesis behind it so i probably misunderstood what you meant at first. The children of the sun is something I overlooked also and its crazy because ancient civilizations used to worship the sun and recognize it as a powerful source. Makes alot of sense when you look at it. And I try my best to keep an objective view with subjective curiosity. I try to make it situational because its such a sensitivd subject and by saying Pluto represents black ppl some ppl take it offensively but its pretty hard for me to ignore the connection between the movements and the Pluto transits. I like to make as many astrology connections as I can because at the end of the day we are all connected to the universe and made from material in the universe so in my eyes, we have a connection to it.
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Remember the day you told me that you wish you could be that emotionally open as I was.. this is the time. Don’t fear what people will think of you because they’re not dealing with your pain and grief. Cry, let it out.. find something that is healing to YOU. If you’re not in the mood to get dressed up, you don’t have too. If you’re a bit moody weepy and depressed, let it happen. Don’t hold it in and don’t think about what to do next, this is the time to use those feelings you have buried inside and reflect on them. You’re not obligated to give anyone an explanation. You have to face your inner demons sometimes to move forward. I know it hurts bad and I’m sorry for your loss, but you are strong and you will get through this. I’m glad you told us how you’re feeling.. the way I view is, you need to self destruct to create something new and beautiful no matter how ugly the process can be.



I agree with HaziiFlo. When my Mom died, I wanted to run from the pain but didn't know how. How do you run from something that is inside of you and part of every cell in your body. I read self-help books and basically, all said that the only way out is through it. Let the pain go through you - it will ebb and flow. But notice how when it does come it eventually goes. My Mom's passing was the start of my spiritual life. I vowed to make myself a better person she could be proud of. Maybe you can find a way to channel your grief by doing something to better someone.

My condolences to you.
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What you just described is the exact way I felt when my grandma passed 3 years ago. She raised me so it was like losing my mom. Plus she had alzheimers so towards the end I cried everyday hoping she could remember me. When she died I just sunk in and got hit by so many other things right after so I wanted to self destruct so bad....but I couldnt i just couldn't. And I made a change right then and there. You never forget those who impact you so powerfully. But its an awesome feeling to love someone so deeply and also have it reciprocated. Loss hurts but only because the bond once shared was close.
Man I'm so sorry to hear that. Death is such a hard think to face especially when it strikes out of nowhere. I myself have been there and each time was extremely tough. To be honest with you, it will be a long time before the pain subsides. The best thing to do is try youe best to make great memories. Try and make small goals for yourself or do something you love. One thing that helped me was embracing my loved ones death. Not like rejoicing but not trying to escape the pain. Talk about it if it helps, write about it or whateber eases your pain. I have both self destructed and done something constructive and I can tell you the former only made things worse.


Your sister will always be with you in spirit. As cliche as it sounds, its true. All of your memories with her, all the laughs and goos times y'all shared, even the few bad times, they all pass to you. Thru you recalling how close y'all were, thru how much you miss her and how much time y'all spent together she stays connected with you thru that. Its not much solice but for every tear you shed about her I know yall have had that many laughs too. I wish you the best and im sorry for your loss
Posted by Redbull
Interesting theory. I dont know how much the cosmos recognizes recent human ideas of "race". How hard is a "color line" when people have ancestors from all over the globe too. People are a mix for the most part and you cant tell by look necessarily. Do any lines really exist? Not to the extent some have "taken" them I dont think. Interesting and can get pretty deep as it goes on as a stream of thought.



Although we are all connected it is hard to say that they don't exist. Maybe they weren't meant to. You take a civilization like Rome of the past and no there werent any color lines there. You were either Roman or enemy. You come to America where there were laws against a certain color and then yea it comes into play.

Now im not saying Pluto is designated to a particular race. But his themes correalte strongly to the struggles of that race but like I said its only theory. Not even that just a different look
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Posted by LuckyLibra979
Posted by MyStarsShine
Posted by LuckyLibra979
Posted by MyStarsShine
Pluto isn't race favoured

It's all colours


Thats cool. Just giving insight to what I read and from what I gather its kinda accurate.


.....if Pluto is black, that means Venus, it's opposite is white?



Never heard of nor can I understand how Venus is opposite of Pluto


...nor me....just thought it being the ruler of Taurus...opposing Scorpio....ruled by Pluto

Goddess of love, seems to be bright white energy ?
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Hmmm yea I mean I guess so. I always held the definiton of planets different from the signs they rule. I feel like not all of mars themes fit aries and vice versa and same for pluto. I feel like Pluto is far more darker than scorpio itself. To me Scorpio is more about change and pluto more about power with the 8th house almost being more about survival
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What represents white people?


Saturn. But again this is what I read. They are largely the lawmakers and hold a majority of authorities positions in the world
Posted by MyStarsShine
Posted by LuckyLibra979
Posted by MyStarsShine
Pluto isn't race favoured

It's all colours


Thats cool. Just giving insight to what I read and from what I gather its kinda accurate.


.....if Pluto is black, that means Venus, it's opposite is white?
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Never heard of nor can I understand how Venus is opposite of Pluto
Posted by MyStarsShine
Pluto isn't race favoured

It's all colours


Thats cool. Just giving insight to what I read and from what I gather its kinda accurate.
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Posted by Nenja
Huh. I always heard Leo/Sun represented Black people


I heard the Leo thing too and I think we're all suppose to know about this, but you know how they manipulate black knowledge.. I think Pluto just represents all the dark butter people will suffer throughout history and black people got the worst of it because we are from a black hole and familiar stardust to the universes.
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Oh boy ppl just dont know how much of our history is either written or just flat out destroyed
Posted by Nenja
Huh. I always heard Leo/Sun represented Black people


That's a new one for me I never heard that one but I can see it
I read that a few years back and it didnt make sense until now.

Pluto in Virgo was a time of segregation and all out racism. Police brutality, alot of bad things going on. Virgo also represents detail, information and most of all service. The service part stands out because the black panthers were created and helped to serve our community and even reach out to other races. They were brought down by the F.B.I. thru slander and murder amongst a few things. The thing that caught my eye was the service tho.

Pluto in Libra was more about aesthetics and a peaceful time. Needless to say there was Motown records and blaxploitation films becoming more and more popular as well as the black love movement.

Pluto in Scorpio was atrocious from start to finish. Crack and AIDS hit the communities hard as well as police injustice and the rodney king riot. But it was not without change because it gave birth to the conscious black man.

In Sagg , imo, being urban became a trend. And also ignorance. It was a time of freedom and self destruction too. Its cool to be a drug addict. You gotta be tolerant today and nobodg is more loose than this generation. We start priding ourselves on being real niggas and bad cookiemonsteres. Became famous for hyper sexuality and being a g. That was the thing now.


In Capricorn tho, this is what sold me on Pluto representing black ppl. Obama became president during Pluto's first year in Capricorn. A black man ascended to one of the highest positions in America. Also with this we see black ppl fighting against corruption in police departments(Sean suiter)and we are seeing more and more leaders arise(Colin kaepernick in his own way). Also the sexual allegation became a real issue once one of the most respected black men of our era was accused, Bill Cosby.


Just a thought. I def. see a correlation.
Im trying. The spiteful acts are starting to mount up tho. I know she is still going thru alot she said last time it took her 2 years to get thru post pardem. I spoke with other females who have suffered the same thing and its never easy. Just kinda need   Read more
Thanks for that and I am. He comes before any and everything. That's very true. I'm tryna thug it out because I know women go thru alot after a baby.