SassyKiwi

Posted by CopperDove
So what about Pluto sextile moon? Anyone have that, and any thoughts on it? Maybe it's particularly good in some way, if Hades moon is difficult given the hard aspects.

I mean moon sextile/trines are still considered aspects to Pluto but definitely less rough than hard aspects. Do you relate anything to it?

Posted by starwars
gemini sun with scorpio moon, thats tough!

Lol!! I'm.. I'm going to let you believe that and see where it takes me

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I'm GLAD I have no Pluto-Moon aspect by degrees 😷 ..my moon and Pluto are quite far apart!

And luckily, my moon conjuncts Jupiter. Weeeeee 😇

And...they're all in 5th house 🙌



But NN is sitting nicely comfortable with these planets in the same house 😠it's all good anyway ✌

Yeah I'm secretive, closed, blah blah blah but...who cares, its my own journey and I'm loving it so far. Wouldn't trade my placements for anything â¤

5th house moon? How do you find relating to Leo moons?

I knew only one Leo moon personally. She was Libra. She was a drama queen.. At first she was very friendly, I was okay relating to her...not exactly comfortable but okay. I can say I was comfortable with Scorpio n Taurus lunars since beginning. Anyway a while later, she just turned out to be too much drama, a fragile ego, very self-conceited...she even spread rumours about me and my friends but then stayed or tried to stay or appeared to stay very friendly with me...

I had a best friend who was a Libra sun with a Leo moon. She was far from a drama queen, very down to earth. But she did have a few scorpio placements like venus.

I generally get along with Leo moons. I have a Libra sun/Leo moon friend who is loyal almost to a fault - but he also has heaps of Scorpio placements.

The only Leo moon I ended up not getting along with (we parted ways on a bad note) was a Leo sun.

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I have never been able to get close to Leo suns but I adore Leo moons. Most Leo moons I'm close to tend to be grounded with water or earth. Leo sun/Leo moon sounds like a nightmare :p

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My sun is quincunx my moon and my Mercury is opposition my moon.

I hate my moon because instead of opening up (like a typical fire sun), I withdraw.

You're a scorpio moon, right? Of course you hate opening up! I have a butter load of squares, conjunctions, and oppositions (16 total)

I dare not not count how many oppositions I have. Sometimes ignorance is bliss.

The problem with not opening up, imo, is that you never learn the truth.

The worst thing a person can do to a Scorpio moon is feed their paranoia and enable judgmental behaviour.

C'mon face the darkness

I'm too stubborn and confident in myself to ever buy into anyone's paranoia. I love communicating and interacting with others as much as I enjoy solitude. I struggle to open up due to not knowing how to express my feelings. Don't fear :c

I've faced the darkness enough in my lifetime tyvm. When I was younger the paranoia used to be a big obstacles. I lost good friends as a result.

Nowadays my Mercury and rising seem to be calling the shots a lot. Less judgmental and not so much into paranoia. I prefer to take my time with decisions these days.

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I'm sorry... I can only imagine. I hope you're dealing with things much better.

I read something about growing into our rising signs as we age, so I'd believe that. Do you have sun conjunct mercury?

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I'm GLAD I have no Pluto-Moon aspect by degrees 😷 ..my moon and Pluto are quite far apart!

And luckily, my moon conjuncts Jupiter. Weeeeee 😇

And...they're all in 5th house 🙌



But NN is sitting nicely comfortable with these planets in the same house 😠it's all good anyway ✌

Yeah I'm secretive, closed, blah blah blah but...who cares, its my own journey and I'm loving it so far. Wouldn't trade my placements for anything â¤

5th house moon? How do you find relating to Leo moons?

I knew only one Leo moon personally. She was Libra. She was a drama queen.. At first she was very friendly, I was okay relating to her...not exactly comfortable but okay. I can say I was comfortable with Scorpio n Taurus lunars since beginning. Anyway a while later, she just turned out to be too much drama, a fragile ego, very self-conceited...she even spread rumours about me and my friends but then stayed or tried to stay or appeared to stay very friendly with me...

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I had a best friend who was a Libra sun with a Leo moon. She was far from a drama queen, very down to earth. But she did have a few scorpio placements like venus.

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My sun is quincunx my moon and my Mercury is opposition my moon.

I hate my moon because instead of opening up (like a typical fire sun), I withdraw.

You're a scorpio moon, right? Of course you hate opening up! I have a butter load of squares, conjunctions, and oppositions (16 total)

I dare not not count how many oppositions I have. Sometimes ignorance is bliss.

The problem with not opening up, imo, is that you never learn the truth.

The worst thing a person can do to a Scorpio moon is feed their paranoia and enable judgmental behaviour.

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C'mon face the darkness

I'm too stubborn and confident in myself to ever buy into anyone's paranoia. I love communicating and interacting with others as much as I enjoy solitude. I struggle to open up due to not knowing how to express my feelings. Don't fear :c

I have both Anaretic and Critical degrees. I really wouldn't say they're a cusp... because your birth date and location is something that's fixed.

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My sun is quincunx my moon and my Mercury is opposition my moon.

I hate my moon because instead of opening up (like a typical fire sun), I withdraw.

You're a scorpio moon, right? Of course you hate opening up! I have a butter load of squares, conjunctions, and oppositions (16 total)

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Posted by justagirl
Puffball is a scorpie moon??

How are you so calm? lololol

Lol not exactly a scorpio moon. And I'm calm because of my other blessing placements :p I can be very jovial despite being an emotionally intense person.

8th house moon is close enough to a Scorpio moon.

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Yeah, some sites do consider an 8th house moon to be a Hades Moon @hollyhock hon this thread is for you

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doh.. okay i looked it up. i feel like a retard now.

i think Kiwi has a fire moon!

Nah, it was a little crazy for me to figure out too.

I love hearing guesses, which fire moon and why?

Sag because its the BEST!

Its Sag > aries> Leo


It woud make you easy going and jovial

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Lol @ leo moon last. I do agree sag moons are the most easy going.

Posted by Koniucha
Moon-Pluto comes off intimidating because we build walls around us to protect ourselves.

Bascially... and if we want to experience a regeneration, we need to learn to open up. Pfft.

Posted by justagirl
doh.. okay i looked it up. i feel like a retard now.

i think Kiwi has a fire moon!

Nah, it was a little crazy for me to figure out too.

I love hearing guesses, which fire moon and why?

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Puffball is a scorpie moon??

How are you so calm? lololol

Lol not exactly a scorpio moon. And I'm calm because of my other blessing placements :p I can be very jovial despite being an emotionally intense person.

isn't hades moon = scorpio moon?

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No. Hades Moon can be those who have:
Moon square Pluto
Moon conjunct Pluto
Moon opposition Pluto
*Scorpio moon (without it aspecting Pluto)
*Moon in the 8th house

The last two aren't solid, but have been mentioned in different places to share the characteristics.

Posted by Nathan912
I always thought you're a Libra moon. Oh well now it's all clear.

LOL WHAT?! But I didn't mention my moon in the OP and you guys don't know my pluto! I'm curious to know how I've come off as a libra moon.

Posted by justagirl
Puffball is a scorpie moon??

How are you so calm? lololol

Lol not exactly a scorpio moon. And I'm calm because of my other blessing placements :p I can be very jovial despite being an emotionally intense person.

Posted by Pisco
And people think I'm scary or intimidating, is that normal for a hades moon? Because I'm really an easy going person.

Yeah. I can unintentionally be intimidating too. Some have said people with this aspect can give off an "air of authority."

Posted by Pisco
I have the Scorpio moon, as well as moon conjunct Pluto. Moon at 15'01 and Pluto at 15'10, I'm a mess. I blame this for why I am so emotionally sporadic. One hour I am calm, the next I'm stressed and emotional, the following I am overwhelmed with joy- I quit. And I love to be alone to a fault. Thank goodness for small benefits to my chart, like the rest of my placements being in air signs pretty much. Ha.

Oh goodness. A double whammy :/ Mine is at a tight orb too. I'm an emotional roller coaster as well which is why I've resorted to being so quiet. I just don't know how to process my emotions and have to always put up this sane front. I have air, fire, and earth to balance me luckily so I'm not that off my rockers.

Posted by TrueFantasy
What are hard moon/Pluto aspects?

Any examples so I can find out if I have this lol very unlikely though

Moon square Pluto
Moon conjunct Pluto
Moon opposition Pluto

Trines *may* count, but it's not as intense or difficult I believe.

I think the orbs have to be within 5 degrees? Some sites are different, this was the easiest for me:

http://www.alwaysastrology.com/birth-chart-calculator.html

Check mark "Display List of Aspects and Positions of Planets" and click "Redraw"

I just figured out I do. I swear it's so dramatized lol. If you have any hard Moon/Pluto aspects (squares, oppositions, conjunctions) you have it too. It's said a Scorpio moon is automatically a Hades moon?

Those with this aspect have intense emotions. These emotions can be buried, be a struggle to process. They live life intensely. They prefer to be a loner. "Intimate relationships may be difficult, with emotions intense and extreme. An atmosphere of emotional brooding may surround you; and others may prefer to withdraw as they sense elemental danger." You've probably had an overpowering/dominant mother figure. You might've been your mother's toughest birth. You're able to sense energies more keenly. Eh of course there's the possible dark stuff like manipulation, self-destruction along with rebirth. "No other planetary contact has such depth of trauma, compulsion, and alienation. No other aspect has quite the same metamorphic and healing potential. Moon-Pluto contacts means opening to the possibility of renewal and regeneration, not just on a personal level - but for the planet and humankind as a whole."

"It is a curse. If you can, do some reading online about it. There's a book by Judy Hall (who coined 'Hades Moon'). Apparently it's dark, plutonian, and really insightful. On a Jungian level. It talks about how many people with Hades moons experienced difficult births or near-death experiences in the womb (two examples I found online were a man whose mother almost aborted him, and the other whose mother ignored her water breaking and went back to bed and he almost died from that). Oftentimes the relationship with the mother is smothering and unhealthy and that is foretold by the umbilical cord wrapped around the neck during childbirth. If they do not have a near-death experience at birth there is a possibility of early death. It tends to run in families and Hades moon people have a karmic connection to other Hades moons. The Kennedy family had Hades moon prevalent and there was a history of difficult births and as we know, tragic and early deaths. Near-death experience is denoted. That's to be embraced as it can ward off the early death karma."

"Hades moon people have a karmic connection to other Hades moons." Personally, that couldn't be much truer for me. Nearly every close person throughout my life also has a hard Moon/Pluto aspect... lol. The the moon changes signs frequently so it can't be random coincidences..? It'd make sense how we're drawn to each others' similar energies I guess. Do mention if you guys have seen any patterns among your close friends' or family's charts.

Crazy, deep stuff.

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I have it too. And I don't felt that it has anything to do with sexual.. perhaps vulgary in indecent way.. You know jacking off and eat those sperms..

I have read from other threat about this aspect that are pretty much hit the spot. With all those rich words like: Disputations, accentuate, belligerent. etc. If you know those words, then you realized that it's quite suitable for Mercury square Mars. But it's also in the worst sign position too.

Mercury in Aries on 7th house square Mars in Cancer on 10th house.

Lol me either, i skipped that part *rolls eyes*
holy butter! mercury in aries? i wouldve never guessed
its the mars in cancer im telling you -__-

In what way btw? I'm curious~

i dont think i get your question

About my mars in Cancer.

we're basically The Hulk

ive always read that its the worst placement for Mars (I have it too mine in the 5th) also i think it effect the overall chart in a weird way since we're earthy.

They called it "Murder mars" or "The werewolf" one too.

I forgot to mentions towards @Sassykiwi that My mars trine Pluto too.

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I have a Murder Mars in my Vedic chart

I also have Jupiter opposite Saturn. Let's share our self-worth issues while we get mani and pedis.