I would be totally gutted!!!

However it would all come down to honesty and it would be blatantly obvious that that wasnt in this relationship and I would have a real battle with it working or being able to get past that.

Posted by startreks
We were OK first but then I started doing things that made her upset, like being too intense or too sensitive. She started complaining that I'm sulky all the time and that I'm always trying to start a fight. Anyway, at that point she started bringing up the mistake that I've made at the beginning of our relationship (i.e. lying to her). She also started pointing out my faults and started being more intolerant to whatever I do or say. This kept going on for a long period of time and I've tried everything possible to fix this, nothing worked. I apologized, tried being an extremely nice guy, I even did actually forgive her when she started being rude and mean to me, calling me names and laughing at me. Most importantly, she stopped saying "I love you" to me even when I begged her to say it. The problem is that she won't deny it but still will refuse to say it!

I could see that she was losing interest in me. We would hang out but I would always feel that she is forcing herself to do so. I even tried to kiss her but she would never let me do so, saying that she doesn't want to regret allowing me to kiss her when she goes back home. We had other arguments after that and then she would never return my calls, my sms or my e-mails, and even when she accidentally picks up the phone, as soon as she hears my voice she just hangs up.

We have not been in touch for about a month now but a few days ago she sent me an e-mail telling me that someone else is using her e-mail so she doesn't want me to send her anything.

this to me is her weighing up whether she wants a relationship with you and it doesn't look by her actions that she does. As a Libran though she doesnt want to hurt you so the way she is doing it in her mind is letting you go gently...it may not feel like that to you but as a libra we dont like to make enemies of anyone, esp ex-lovers & friends. Sorry

No you're spot on as usual Tiki...you see through alot of what others cant and dont want to hear!

Good luck LL, heed the warning though

Looks like it is a Libran thing....obviously everyone has their own things that they can handle or not and mostly if the situation calls for it we dont flake. I hate scary movies too and couldn't watch alot of the unecessary violence that you see on some war movies particularly if they are real re-enactments. Just preferring no to see that type of movie unless it was of interest to understand what really happened back then.

Oh and congrats Nic to you and Angel

I've always wonder if it is being a Libran that effects me this way...My step Dad (Libran too) and I both can't stomach watching open procedure operations on telly, blood and guts displayed in some of the medical programs they have on. Mostly real life things but sometimes I will turn away from explicit TV shows. Yet if it was a real life issue I can handle it....or the experiences i have had which have only been minor with my kids, I'm stronger. The adrenelin must take over!

So is it a Libran thing to not be able to stomach blood and guts or just me and him?

No the still image is enough for me...I dont want to know anymore...I've never been able to stomach cruelty!

Ewwww curiousity got this cat!

In a small town, a person decided to open up a brothel, which was
right opposite to a church. The Church & its congregation started a
campaign to block the brothel from opening with petitions and prayed
daily against his business.

Work progressed. However, when it was almost complete and was about to
open a few days later, a strong lightning struck the brothel and it
was burnt to the ground.

The church folks were rather smug in their outlook after that, till
the brothel owner sued the church authorities on the grounds that the
church through its congregation & prayers was ultimately responsible
for the destruction of his brothel, either through direct or indirect
actions or means.

In its reply to the court, the church vehemently denied all
responsibility or any connection that their prayers were reasons for
the act of God. As the case made its way into court, the judge looked
over the paperwork at the hearing and commented:

'I don't know how I'm going to decide this case, but it appears from
the paperwork, we have a brothel owner who firmly believes in the
power of prayer and an entire church that doesn't.'

You're doing the right thing, let him know you are interested and you would go out with him if he asked and then leave it up to him...

The one thing that I get is that a player would be full speed ahead...this guy seems to have some reservations so maybe a bit of confirmation on your behalf...so he knows you are approachable

Have you split with your man BF??? Or is this someone playing with you knowing you have a significant other?

Well if she would come back and answer some of these questions then there would be more to go by! To understand more, you need to know how far their online realtionship has developed...do they talk about sex and how specific they are... once these things come into it the relationship is speeding along expectations are coming into it so a first meeting can be way more than just a first date!

From what i'm reading you both have valid pointsbut are both coming at each other with differing arguements, if you aren't talking about the same thing then none of your points are validated by the other person.

It's a first date in the sense that it may be the first time they are actually together in person...

alot of ground work is covered while they are talking online for how ever long a period. I wouldn't compare that to a first date of never having talked to the other person before, you already have an understanding (perhaps false or not) of the person and what makes them tick...as much as they want you to know anywho and you actually feel like you know them well. Even to the point of knowing at times what they are going to do next...

I had a bad experience so naturally I will try and point out the things that someone else may look for and watch for hoping they themselves are open eyed. Regardless, the person in question will do for themselves what they feel and assess their situation and act accordingly.

Everything you say makes perfect sense Tiki...almost like you have been there too HOWEVER, I still wouldn't have listened...

I'd been pulled too far in to get out and then I developed the attitude of well regardless of the outcome I'm just going to let my guard down and go for it, live for the moment so i dont have the regret of never experiencing it!

LA LA LAND!

But deep down i knew it was going nowhere and if it's taught me anything it's, listen to your deepest concerns and the people around you...

Yes I have a Scorp mother and we have the same problems as you...I think the nosiness is just a mother thing because I had to tell mine once that I am a very private person and if I want to share something with her I would. I am an adult and not a kid anymore.

As for getting along with other Libras, I never have a problem with it so maybe that also is more family based. Families feel they have more right to an opinion just because they are related....would certainly piss me off if they were over stepping the mark and it is easier to show your true feelings to another member of the family!

Been in this exact situtation and in hindsight I'd point out a couple of things...



Firstly, listen to your intuition..it's bang on!!! how is it making you feel/think?


Secondly, Dont go to him...if he feels the way he does, he should be coming to you. If he doesnt, ask yourself why?


Thirdly, knowing his family doesnt give any knowledge into his life apart from he isnt married...

My honest opinion is he is a predator...but that is based off the guy I knew and uncannily almost everything you are saying is how it was with us! Tiki gave advice which I discarded, regretfully...

I can see he has already wormed his way into your heart and it is a hard thing to now STOP the way you feel, living for the next time you contact each other. But try and look from the outside in.. is he truely exerting himself at your disposal...or are you just convieniently there at the right times, the lull times? When he talks of future...is he working his way to you or just painting pretty pictures of what could be???

Be careful, look deeper, listen to others around you...your friends are also bang on! If they say nothing it's a warning...

I guess you've had your fair share of freaks TC....that's why I always look at your threads...there's bound to be dramas and great reading!!!

Haha i was referring to TC's comments on some of the chicks here are creepy...and wondered why she thought that!!! But anywho...you guys went on...off topic lol

Why do you think they are creepy?? I get with the ones more my age that are going at it or looking anywho 2nd time round and cautious... You do get some over inflated egos but you get that anywhere..

The guys I find funny!

Cats do that becasue they are stalkers...always stalking there prey!

Funny that, cos I liken cats to woman and dogs to men!! Cats are serious and like to be loved touch pampered blah blah blah and dogs just want to be played with patted fed and looked after!! haha

i always have this dream of going up in an elevator and it goes higher and higher and the elevator is too old and going way too high and feels like it's going to fall apart... up over 100 stories!!

Not liking them and screaming because they are around thats a phobia!!! Seen a whole family go hysterical because while showing them a house they saw a cat and started screaming and had to get outside!!!