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lol @digging up thirteen yr old threads...someone's bitter

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OH YOU KNOW ME!!! BASHING PEOPLES SKULLS W BEER BOTTLES IS WHAT I DO BEST! WHAT CAN I SAY? IT WAS WRITTEN IN THE STARS

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Posted by aquarius09
A better question is how does one come to be a terrorist?

What's going on down there that there's a rise in these terrorist willing to take innocent lives when the Quran clearly states that killing one person is killing the whole mankind?

What's going on down there that you have a person willing to die (suicide bombers) for his religion?

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This has been an excellent discussion. We need more readers to join in.

Well see, that's the problem. It's a very complicated 1400 year old discussion. Mostly what these discussions turn into are people trying to earn points using polemics and personal attacks when logic and facts get in the way.

It's why I quit hanging around Islamic discussion forums. It gets to be draining.

Well the reason why people are having these discussions is because they hear about the events in France and Syria, so they get shocked. On top of that these issues come up in the political arena, and becomes an instant hit for the media, so people want to hear about what the MUSLIMS think about these on-going events.

What does ISIS have to do with Islam? These psychologically ill idiots were born Muslim so now lets blame Islam? What about that white dude who snapped and killed people in the theatre couple years back around the time dark knight was released? Why didn't anyone blame Christianity because he was born into it? Or what about pastors that molest lil kids? Nooo! We're not gonna look at their religion but we will definitely look at Islam when some Muslim marker snaps and goes crazy.

LOL@you for thinking that Aurora Shooting has anything to do with Christianity.

Did he shoot people while reading passages from the bible too

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...And when Muslims enter these kind of discussions they become defensive then throw dirt at Christianity for its past atrocities when they know full well that no modern time Christian would want Old Testament laws to be forced on the entire population even though they can because Christians are majority in North America.

Hypothetically speaking though, Christians have strength in numbers and if they really wished it they could enforce Old Testament Laws to benefit themselves and its highly unlikely that minority could stop them.

Because the majority of Christians in United States respect the United States constitution so much, they cant impose their will on the entire population.

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I know how you fell and wish I had a solution.

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Posted by aquarius09
as well. Indonesia and India aren't hotspots for terrorist because they don't fall under Muslim countries. India is known as Hindustan as well because it's predominantly Hindu or has various religions there.
Let's get something clear, the terrorists are never Shiites. Check it for yourself. We couldn't be. We are minority who are being killed by Sunnis as well. Our Shiite philosophy doesn't promote killing either. We take Ali as our role model. The Sunnis who are harmless and not extremist are also usually unaware about the doings of their own three caliphs.

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I don't think the word is sharia you're looking for here. If you mean his digest or his outlook, then yes, I have. He is someone I do look up to. He is a renowned marjah-e-taqlid (pope status) in the Shiite community. This man receives so many death threats despite the fact that he's so passive and neutral in his stances.

Basically if anyone wants to see why this religion (Islam) has crumbled then look no further than the forefathers and who they decided to follow. Sunnis followed oppressors who killed the family of their own prophet and Shiite followed the progeny of Prophet Muhhamad (pbuh) and so goes the history. Come on now, if you are following the killers of your prophets family then who the hell are Christians and Jews. You're obviously gonna kill them too.

You're so condescending over Sunnis who make up like 85-90% of the Muslim population. Most Shiites I've personally encountered are very aggressive tbh.

I am very condescending towards Sunnis and what they follow and their beliefs. Majority is Sunni and you see the conditions of Muslims and in Islam today. It's right in front of you. As for 85-90% being comprised of Sunnis, that's going overboard. Shiite faith grows yearly and you might wanna give me a proper figure if you're going to claim such a thing.

It doesn't matter how many aggressive Shiites you encountered because fact of the matter is that Muslims causing terror worldwide are Sunnis and they actually go around killing Shiites as well. They've been killing Shiites for centuries. Not a new thing. I just don't get why Christians and Jews are surprised. If they can kill Shiites who are still considered part of the Islamic community then who are they?

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That is exactly my sentiments!! I don't get it and it irks me! These people should stay in a land, be it whatever, that allows them to practice their sharia law.

I'm a Shiite Muslim and I have a strong opposition to the Sunni Muslim beliefs, who by the way are the ones fighting for sharia law.

Shiite philosophy on the matter is pure and simple which is to follow the law of the land you reside in which is why you don't find Shiites crying for sharia law to be observed in the western states.

Hey just out of curiosity, have you ever seen the Sharia under Al Sistani? Blew my mind when I read it. How anyone can live under that is scary.

I don't think the word is sharia you're looking for here. If you mean his digest or his outlook, then yes, I have. He is someone I do look up to. He is a renowned marjah-e-taqlid (pope status) in the Shiite community. This man receives so many death threats despite the fact that he's so passive and neutral in his stances.

Basically if anyone wants to see why this religion (Islam) has crumbled then look no further than the forefathers and who they decided to follow. Sunnis followed oppressors who killed the family of their own prophet and Shiite followed the progeny of Prophet Muhhamad (pbuh) and so goes the history. Come on now, if you are following the killers of your prophets family then who the hell are Christians and Jews. You're obviously gonna kill them too.

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I ran across a recent poll that 60% of European Muslims support Shariah Law in Europe.
This is why you see Europeans being killed in their own homelands because they DO NOT want to conform to such backward ideology.
But still I think Shariah will become a reality in Europe at one point in history because their Muslim population is skyrocketing, immigration policies are very liberal, and Muslim birth rates are high, while the native, lets say French population, isn't that high to begin with.

treetrunking nonsense.

That poll is bullbutter, don't believe all butter you read online. Utter garbage.

This is why Islam is such a dangerous religion.

Anytime you expose Islam and its true intentions people will dismiss everything you say by calling it bullbutter.

Do link to this poll you recently came across because it literally sounds like something you pulled out of thin air. I'm sure the vote numbers weren't even a significant amount of the millions of European Muslims.

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2013/12/21/study-two-thirds-of-european-muslims-believe-in-sharia-over-state-laws/

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I ran across a recent poll that 60% of European Muslims support Shariah Law in Europe.
This is why you see Europeans being killed in their own homelands because they DO NOT want to conform to such backward ideology.
But still I think Shariah will become a reality in Europe at one point in history because their Muslim population is skyrocketing, immigration policies are very liberal, and Muslim birth rates are high, while the native, lets say French population, isn't that high to begin with.

treetrunking nonsense.

That poll is bullbutter, don't believe all butter you read online. Utter garbage.

This is why Islam is such a dangerous religion.

Anytime you expose Islam and its true intentions people will dismiss everything you say by calling it bullbutter.

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I hear what you're saying but that shouldn't be their responsibility. To be the spokesman/woman for an entire religion 24/7, being held accountable to for another person's actions just because they belong to the same faith. Expecting them to educate non-Muslims about the differences between peaceful Muslims and extremist terrorists whenever they meet a curious stranger. All that sounds draining and unnecessary. They shouldn't have to do anything unless they WANT to. They're still people going on about their lives at the end of the day, not poltical ambassadors

Besides, by virtue of their appearance and lifestyle onlookers will probably assume the worst about their motives, guilty until proven innocent. So along with fighting swathes of ignorance in their daily lives, expecting them to play the role of teacher and peace keeper is too much to ask of anyone.

I agree. treetrunking crazies making life difficult for normal Muslims.

Maybe something like a ribbon, like how pink ribbons represent the fight against breast cancer, some sort of accessory can catch on as a trend to express that they stand for peace among all of humanity. Muslims can wear them, Christians can wear them, atheists, Jews, pagans can wear them...

Yes, let's do something that'll make terrorists have easier targets. I see the extremists follow something not much different from Hitler's regime.

Please. The entire treetrunking world is already a target to terrorists as it is. Being silenced by them is not going to help. It will only hurt, because then the actual humans can't unite against the few monsters.

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Honestly i would really like to see the sane, peaceful Muslims disassociate themselves from the extremists as much as possible. gathering together to publicly denounce them, educate non-Muslims about the difference between them and extremists, and maybe even separate the two camps by name. Say, Islam vs Crazislam, and Muslims vs Crazlims. something like that.

because not only is it unfair to lump the normal majority with the bad apples, it actually makes it easier for those bad apples to hide among the crowd.

I hear what you're saying but that shouldn't be their responsibility. To be the spokesman/woman for an entire religion 24/7, being held accountable to for another person's actions just because they belong to the same faith. Expecting them to educate non-Muslims about the differences between peaceful Muslims and extremist terrorists whenever they meet a curious stranger. All that sounds draining and unnecessary. They shouldn't have to do anything unless they WANT to. They're still people going on about their lives at the end of the day, not poltical ambassadors

Besides, by virtue of their appearance and lifestyle onlookers will probably assume the worst about their motives, guilty until proven innocent. So along with fighting swathes of ignorance in their daily lives, expecting them to play the role of teacher and peace keeper is too much to ask of anyone.

I agree. treetrunking crazies making life difficult for normal Muslims.

Maybe something like a ribbon, like how pink ribbons represent the fight against breast cancer, some sort of accessory can catch on as a trend to express that they stand for peace among all of humanity. Muslims can wear them, Christians can wear them, atheists, Jews, pagans can wear them...

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