Posted by stillstillwater
What do you mean should’ve let you know. She literally said you’re the first to know...

No, she should have when we started spending so much time together. No intentions on being more than friends than we shouldn’t be dating.

I didn’t do it for her to have sex with me.... she’s sick!

@shadowcat that hurts

I don’t care if she cares about me! I don’t date to be buddies.

She got free meals and didn’t have to put out 🤷🏾‍♂️
We could have hung out doing free stuff


Plus I see how well she plans... she knew she was leaving before we started talking probably.

Ok. I took her meds over to her place because of the flu. of course not wanting to get infected I just say here and left. Brought her a immune boosting smoothie, pho, and cold meds pack (theraflu, cough drops, vick vaper rub).... easily a good 50 bucks of stuff.

I think yeah... I'm in there/good friend.

she just texts me... hey I wanted you to be one of first to know, I'm moving at the end of January. I want to spend these next few weeks with you and my friends and jan 16th is going to probably be a combined birthday/going away party.


Now she's definitely friend zoned. kind of wished she told me earlier. so all of you that told me to wait and be patient...and blah blah blah... this is why men don't do this courting crap.

yeah she's a "friend" or whatever you want to call her. It's a loss for me!

DAM(N) you mercury Retrograde

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Posted by UnicornSag
I'm pretty sure he doesn't get you like him in the way you do. Guys can be like that at some point. You can be as obvious as you think you are but they don't get it. Ask him out for a drinks and see how it goes you can't go wrong with that for sure. Then if you go out start flirting, work your magic lol

im getting cranky.....not a good thing

Hahhahaha...MARIAH....breathe in...breathe out

Call him and say
You: hi handsome,happy bday with lots of warm and wet kisses
Him: (laughing) Thank you doll......
You: I wanna have drinks with you...when do you have time?
Him: I have to check my schedule (confused...what is happening here?)
You: (cheeky/bold)Yeah i've been wanting this for a long time but the universe keeps playing tricks on me (Schedules, broken legs...etc...) (laughing)
Him: really? I haven't noticed.
You: I KNOW...that's why i am asking you now . So is it possible this week?
.........
and so on...and so on....not that difficult.

Something like this will work @Hellosaggy?
Help the girl out

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yeah I like it!

I'm INTJ

I do corporate takeovers/mergers

Process engineering. Run project teams.

All around business like/logical ... I have empathy, it just helps me manipulate... borderline sociopath

*shrugs*

yeah... you are right with the stringing along. I'm terrible at detaching from people I don't dislike/hate, because you want to have them around, but it's not fair to manipulate to do it.

@Mariah18

plus you can talk away girl. I love dutch women's english. its really cute.

Well mercury retrograde is destroying my month of December. PLEASE hurry up and be over.

Cap has laid out she likes me, a lot, but not willing to have sex until she figures her life out. I'm friend zoning her, like her enough to keep her around.... if she wants to be around she can

my 2 Sag FWB stopped talking to me after I either avoided a relationship or didn't make time

The Virgo didn't happen for the sex extravaganza due to weather.

now

I have the Aqua. Get this... she's bisexual, but doesn't like giving oral to men, but (hehehe I said but, and yeah that too) is on the table.... so now I gotta figure out if I want to try to change her mind on that or just not even go there with her because she already seeming pretty clingy and we've not really done anything but have dinner and drinks twice and she's calling texting me all day every day. She's fun, but I think if I don't do what she wants after we go there, she will try to hurt me!

the fact that I haven't had sex in a few weeks has me drifting to the Aqua I think sub consciously...

hurry up and be over mercury retrograde!

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Posted by UnicornSag
I didn't say they're not great friends. In general it's more down to fun part than anything else that's all. While Sag women are there for all. The good and the bad both. I don't like to drag words out of people either, if they want to talk they will if not I won't force them. But it's a common decency to me when someone say they're not feeling well to ask simply: "What happened? Do you want to talk about it? Is there anything I can do to help?"
That much is a normal thing to do for me at least If they don't want any of that then it's ok, no one forces anyone to anything, but asking about it shows you care about the person.
I often got that too from Cap guy for certain things, he said you didn't ask me about this or that and I said what i think exactly, I don't want to stick my nose too much into it but I am interested, I feel if you want to tell me you will. Think that's reasonable way of thinking. But when it comes to parts when that person is feeling bad or frustrated it's perfectly fine to talk to them about it and see if they need to open up or just some time in peace

Yeah... her statement was "just to let you know, I'm in a bad mood, just warning you because you are a sweet guy"

So I just cut it right there, because it sounds like its going to ruin our date. it came across like she was going to be pissy and I just needed to deal with it.

I'm not walking on egg shells for something I didn't do to you, so you stay home or whatever you are doing and figure your shit out.

If she had just said "Hey, I had a bad day today so far." that's another story. we are on the same page though @unicornsag

hhmm there's very lil differrence in those two statements except in one she's kind of playing a victim and seeing if you're down to save her lol

That's my point... I don't go LOOKING to save, unless you provide some benefit to me. She at this time doesn't provide a benefit to me to pull anything out of her... until I put something in her

all jokes aside... I read right through it which is why I was just like... well ok. hope you get over it soon.

If you saw it why ignore it? You don’t want to be there for her unless you have sex? Serious power games... kind of unhealthy don’t you think?

Nope... no power games... its actually the other way around. she's controlling everything we do and the pace we do it. I get no say. More putting my foot down.

Well I think you said a lot by actively not choosing to be there for her. Honestly it’s just you don’t really understand her emotions. You might understand what she’s doing but you don’t vibe with it. Like a Pisces guy would probably be more sensitive to those emotional needs and might have been able to deepen the bond than take a step back. I mean sometimes both approaches are necessary and I’m not here to say which one is correct. I just know if I was her I’d probably like a softer approach.

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@stillstillwater

you are right... lol... we talked about that on drive to the club on my birthday. she was like. I really wanted to go out that night, but I was just warning you I was in a bad mood. But you could have cheered me up because I like being with you. or yelled at me, and I would have stopped pouting lol

I explained to her why I aborted the date, she understood. I said next time don't text me your pissed off, because I'm going to avoid a bad situation to not make it worse for her or take me out of my good mood. but now that I know I will do my Sag best to cheer her up.

She's still back burnered til she gives up the goods.

She told me she's not sure if she wants a relationship until her life gets better or she decides if she's moving in February.

she's a relationship sexer... I'm not lol.

BTW, I just took her sick medicine and Pho to her house. mwah haha haaaaa

hopefully she really appreciates it

if not, I did it as a nice gesture anyway.

@Mariah18

You seem like a good person.

But from all the past threads you've created. Nothing rings like he's interested. You beat around the bush because you are afraid of being rejected by him.

It's 2017, well almost 2018 now. Honestly, when women ask me out, It intrigues me because they are so straight forward, even if I'm on the fence about them.

But from all the threads you've created, what you are doing isn't working obviously.

@Mariah18

If you've flat out told him you like him. and that's why you tease him.... he knows you like him. If he's not given any inclination to the idea. he's not interested.

honestly you guys are really down playing how smart Sag men are.

Hunting is what we do. I enjoy hunting. the only thing I hate more than I love hunting is Losing.

We pick up subtle hints. maybe not the first one because we don't like to be wrong, but after a couple its pretty obvious to me, and mostly sag men as a whole.

we don't like hurting people's feelings either, so we stay friendly even if we know they want us, bc frankly its ego and we like having people around we find good people.

oh no.... if someone is flirting with us, we know it, we just try to analyze what is going on and if we are interested or not.

this isn't hard at all. really. @Saggurl88 is right.

you've never seen me in here asking... I wonder if my CAP likes me... it's why she won't give it up. I know when someone likes me or not.

You are in here asking if Sag likes you.... the answer is. I really am not seeing it, so you either need to press the issue or be friend-zoned.. because honestly if I have someone that just keeps hovering around me, it actually annoys the hell out of me.

@mariah18

honestly... even if he knows you like him. He's not going to say anything because he's watching you. We don't like to make first moves really unless we are sure its a high chance of something being right, we hate rejection/losing.

If anything you are being annoying by being indirect. and it can be a major turn off. Just because we answer your question doesn't mean we like you, if anything it means you are being friend zoned and we don't care.

You going around in circles is just driving you, him, and frankly all of us crazy.

Ask him out if he says no, or makes an excuse then you have your answer. waiting for us to hunt you when we don't want you, that's not going to happen.

I tend to say, hey it doesn't seem to be working out. I'll listen for a while and maybe throw in an apology.

after that I tend to ghost...

Libra Mars

got my samples today.

I'll try it out!

If you are clear you are interested @unusualvaginaldischarge and guys use you. I feel sorry for you.

if you play along thinking its going to evolve. that's on you.

I'm upfront with my lack of desire to commit, I don't play games. If my position softens, its because I made the decision.

it would take a really special woman to get me to change my position, and that will come from her differentiating herself through time... not just a fun one, that I can have sex with, because there are plenty of them.

in a relationship:

some men want a woman that's like their mom
some men want a woman that's not like their mom
some men want a porn star
some men want a traditional relationship
and
some men want a partnership
mostly all men want a woman they find pretty and fun.

its the woman's responsibility to ensure she protects herself or at least figures out what motivates the man and see if you fit it, not try to change yourself to be it.

if you don't it won't involve into anything other than what it is.

@lnana04

Yea. She’s set in her ways with no reason.

Why do people want their way when they have no reason or evidence why it should be their way???

That’s why we never talk about past. Because people want to moan about people’s past.

Do they treat you good
Are they loyal
Do they please you?

@shadowcat

Normally people that cry intimacy are ones that got burned and are bitter and can’t silo the bullshit from the experience without making blanket ascertations

Oh she hurt me.... gtfo it life isn’t fair. Sex does not equate to intimacy.

Bonding and intimacy CAN come from it. It’s not a requirement.

Everybody does things differently. Saying one partner can let you explore everything is a fallacy.
Most everybody will tell you a past person was better at x than current partner. Cut the lies and bullshit out. People grow content with relationships and shit falls to way side: 80/20 rule. Sex isn’t the only thing in a relationship, but it’s important to some people.

More marriages fail than work: maybe your logic is flawed searching for intimacy.

I’m sure a vast majority of those people say they’d never cheat or that person was their soulmate. Yeah ok. Sure at least I’m honest about it.