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I really don’t like small talk to begin with but I get so awkward around romantic interests that I just straight up avoid them. I’ll talk to everyone in the room except them. It’s weird. God bless my husband and every man who ever dealt with my ass

I remember when my childhood crush asked me out and said he was surprised I agreed to go out with him and had no idea I crushed on him ...he said I always acted like I wasn’t even interested in saying hi to him

I’m the same way. I’m so friendly as a friend and a ridiculous, awkwardly social person when I like you. It sucks. I wish it was the reverse.

then when we were sitting down, after hours of no physical contact he just caresses the top of my hand for like 30 secs then he goes back to browsing his phone AAAAANNNDDD it weirded me out hahaha wtf.

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one thing I will say is we don't like making the "First" move.... rejection will make us super depressed. It's one thing if we reject(which we won't), but if we get rejected its game over.

I'm 100% sure before I do anything.

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My pharmacist is even a Sag... super good guy, but holy shit is he dull.

i've always wondered why Gems and Sags keep marrying and divorcing each other.

now i understand.

no 2 people could be so different. Gems are lively, fun, generous, keep convos going, engage themselves and they like to travel.

Sag may have a great sense of humor, a quiet thoughtfulness about them but they are FAR from what's written about them.

the proximity to Scorpio and Cap may explain a lot of things.

I agree that we are boring. That’s actually why we get along with Gems so well. They love talking about themselves and asking questions, don’t give a crap about how we don’t ask stuff. I love to travel but I need a partner to pull stuff out of me. I’m pretty boring and a workaholic when I’m not traveling. I also am super distant and Gemini’s will contact everyday, even when you forget to respond. It’s a good match for me. But I would be bored with a Sag. I think others bring out our passion.

I don’t even know how to do small talk or questions to ask people cause it feels invasive.

Virgo men are boring to me though. They pretty much do the same thing. Watch and observe, and ask nothing.

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speak for yourself! I'm not boring! I'm the life of every party!

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I meant to say Sag M and Aries F

But hit the enter button by accident.

What do y’all think of this pairing. I like two at the moment.

Never encountered male saggis in my life. I find that odd being a fellow fire sign and all.

It is a rarity to encounter a Sag male too.

I abdolutely love the pairing.

The only thing is Sag males tend to deny negative emotions. So, it makes it difficult to even notice as a culprit in any relational difficulty. The problem with that is that when they act out, honest communi is near impossible.

They require alot of flexibility in a partner. I think they require the most flexibility of all zodiac males... maybe 2nd to Gemini.

They often wax and wane philosophical instead of raw thoughts. It's like thoughts and beliefs adopted.

They have really big personalities. I feel they require personalities just as big.

I don’t meet Leo men often either. Mainly earth and water. The two saggis seem so calm and laid back. One is extremely hairs working like I’ve never seen a work ethic like his and I thought I was a hard worker I mean I am but he trumps me. That’s so sexy.

I’m not sure if I’m buggin but I passed him something twice yesterday and he caressed my hand both times. Like he didn’t need to even touch my hand. I need for it to happen again for me to know for sure but I been thinking about it all night. The other one is super consistent and patient. Known him since this summer and he keeps up with me although I put him in Ice for months. I’ll date both if I can lol

Sounds promising. You will never be bored. You gotta look further than that Sun. The moon sign on a man is hell. However, out of all male Sun signs, Leo and Sag men tend to rep their suns the most... ego is strong.

I have Sags in my family and I dated a Sag.

My daughter has been going back and forth between a Gemini and a Sagittarius for over a year. I thought the Sag would win and he had her for months but the Gem has taken over again. Both young men know they are incompetition with one another.

Yasss young sis. I love to hear about young women weighing their options and living their best life. What’s her sign? Funny thing is I’m also slightly crushing on a gem too.
But they scare me. Ugh

In total I got my eye on 2 saggis, a Virgo and a gem.

The saggis don’t seem overly flirtatious. I know the second one likes me romantically but not sure of the first one. I try to talk to him often. A girl came by our office to visit him before, actually on a few occasions, it could have been his girl but idk . But she hasn’t been back in months. I’m getting ready to head there and I’m excited to see him lol

She's a Pisces.

I tell her what I did...date until someone asks for a commitment...and then commitment until, I don't like it anymore.

The most confident was the Sag. The Gem tried to play the friends card but wound up folding to the bold Sag. Then, the Sag lost confidence and played the break-up to make up card one to many times. Then, absence made the heart grow stronger with the Gem while the Sag tried unethical means to grow attachment.
It has been quite entertaining and a great experience to see her through.

Some that third decan of Sags can be quite dogmatic where the 1st decan is fun.

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Yep. because it's easy for a woman to drop a guy that doesn't do anything for you. but not a man that just doesn't commit, because a lot of women feel they "can change him"... because he's amazing. vs being a deadbeat.

this one girl, shes gorgeous, she has decent, but not great sex and she has nothing else to offer. not conversation, not cooking, not house keeping, no ambition, she wants to be a mom though.

the other night, she was like. I have a good heart, and I think I am great company. wtf, am I supposed to say to that. yeah you are pretty and you seem to have a good heart. but really you are boring/selfish, and not partnership quality?

I told her. I can't see myself settling down (didn't say with her, kept that part to myself), but if you want to see who else is out there that could compliment you, I won't stand in your way, just let me know.

obviously, trying to mitigate the situation screwed up my plans for the night, but I had to keep it 85% lol

I feel like Sags and Virgos tell the most truth to women when dating....

"this one girl, shes gorgeous, she has decent, but not great sex and she has nothing else to offer. not conversation, not cooking, not house keeping, no ambition, she wants to be a mom though."

...she probably thinks she's "the shit" and will be posting on DXP soon. You shoulda helped her a told her the truth but, I guess you wanna come back to the kitty at some point.

See stuff like this. I guess I'm just a different type of person. To not be truthful to try and keep the options for sex open... Even when she was trying to get the truth out of him, and he didn't tell her.
Ofcours he tells her to go meet other guys, and that should be enough, but still... This would make me feel very used. All I read about scorpio is about trust. I guess when the intentons become clear, for me that means I go back and look at everything said and done in a brand new light of 'he wants pussy', and that's all. Everything he does and says is to get pussy. Nothing is hobest or friendly or heart felt. It's all for the pussy. And had I know that to begin with, I would have never gone into it. And now I have to sit there and learn how to be even more distrustful and close myself up even more and feel such regret in my life, because another person was not truthful with me for a long time. The trust is broken and everything changes.
That's how I work mentally.

You cherry pick alot.

As I stated earlier - varying degrees of attraction... she was O for alot.

...she has decent, but not great sex and she has nothing else to offer. not conversation, not cooking, not house keeping, no ambition, she wants to be a mom though."

I don't know what cherry pick means... 🤷🏼‍♀️
But yeah if somebody felt like that about me but kept having sex with me, I mean he would have to lie to my face to make me want to have sex with him, because I would never want to have sex with someone, who thought so little of me. And the sex isn't even that good!!!! So yes I would still feel used. Pretend to like me to get sex. How humiliating.
But I know, this is a downfall for me as well, since it keeps me from enjoying sex.

(this is not in relation to a one night stand pr something, where you don't know the person)

You act very young and seem to have a lot of immaturity and tend to make a lot of assumptions, that's probably part of your problem. If you are the type of woman that has to be buttered up/"romanced" to get in bed, that might be contributing to your dilemmas.

I don't lie to her, at all, I actually help her out A LOT. its just not going to materialize into something else because she doesn't want to change her mentality to interest me in pursuing anything with her.

I don't say "baby, I love you. I want to be with you. let's make passionate love." I come over, I cook, we drink, we talk about HER day/week. she asks me for advice, she's attracted to me. We have sex. She's a pillow princess 85% of the time. she can't ride, she comes and has to take breaks, so I have to jerk off most of the time during sex. and her bjs are more hand jobs. she is hot as fuck, so arm candy and ego pleasing when she begs for dick.

She doesn't get a pass. and i've been sleeping with her long enough to realize this is what it is, and if she wasn't a side friend, i would have been cut her off. She told me the other day, "I make her life better." I don't promise her a future, I am a fwb.

we were laying there one day after she came and she was like "have you ever been in love, like in love". I flat out said "nope, never." I'm not a pillow talker, I'll give you a high five for a job well done.

I don't know, I would be way more honest. I'd think of the other person instead, who clearly has some kind of hope and feelings involved, and I would cut it off. I am very selfsufficiant, I don't need another person for attention or sex. So I would never do that. In my eyes that's immature, I did this stuff 10 years ago, briefly, and saw how messed up the other person became, so I stoppes it. But I guess we all se it different ways.
I mean ofcours the girl should pick up on things, but at the same time you are being nice to her, so ofcours she thinks, you'll come around emotionally.
For me, when I finally find out and exept that you have no feelings, it would make everything that happened between us fake and solely done for the purpose of sex. And that would make it seem like you played on my feelings. I don't understand, how you can see it any other way. You are being nice to her, so that she will have sex with you right?

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No I’m nice to her because I’m genuinely nice. I treat her like I would treat a woman I was with. I won’t go past the early stages of courting and I’ve been clear about it. I don’t lie to keep her around. Don’t have to.

I don’t understand how if someone doesn’t feel you are permanent relationship material they have used you? If you’ve made it clear you want permanence and they manipulate you to keep your relationship going then I can understand your feelings.

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Yep. because it's easy for a woman to drop a guy that doesn't do anything for you. but not a man that just doesn't commit, because a lot of women feel they "can change him"... because he's amazing. vs being a deadbeat.

this one girl, shes gorgeous, she has decent, but not great sex and she has nothing else to offer. not conversation, not cooking, not house keeping, no ambition, she wants to be a mom though.

the other night, she was like. I have a good heart, and I think I am great company. wtf, am I supposed to say to that. yeah you are pretty and you seem to have a good heart. but really you are boring/selfish, and not partnership quality?

I told her. I can't see myself settling down (didn't say with her, kept that part to myself), but if you want to see who else is out there that could compliment you, I won't stand in your way, just let me know.

obviously, trying to mitigate the situation screwed up my plans for the night, but I had to keep it 85% lol

I feel like Sags and Virgos tell the most truth to women when dating....

"this one girl, shes gorgeous, she has decent, but not great sex and she has nothing else to offer. not conversation, not cooking, not house keeping, no ambition, she wants to be a mom though."

...she probably thinks she's "the shit" and will be posting on DXP soon. You shoulda helped her a told her the truth but, I guess you wanna come back to the kitty at some point.

See stuff like this. I guess I'm just a different type of person. To not be truthful to try and keep the options for sex open... Even when she was trying to get the truth out of him, and he didn't tell her.
Ofcours he tells her to go meet other guys, and that should be enough, but still... This would make me feel very used. All I read about scorpio is about trust. I guess when the intentons become clear, for me that means I go back and look at everything said and done in a brand new light of 'he wants pussy', and that's all. Everything he does and says is to get pussy. Nothing is hobest or friendly or heart felt. It's all for the pussy. And had I know that to begin with, I would have never gone into it. And now I have to sit there and learn how to be even more distrustful and close myself up even more and feel such regret in my life, because another person was not truthful with me for a long time. The trust is broken and everything changes.
That's how I work mentally.

You cherry pick alot.

As I stated earlier - varying degrees of attraction... she was O for alot.

...she has decent, but not great sex and she has nothing else to offer. not conversation, not cooking, not house keeping, no ambition, she wants to be a mom though."

I don't know what cherry pick means... 🤷🏼‍♀️
But yeah if somebody felt like that about me but kept having sex with me, I mean he would have to lie to my face to make me want to have sex with him, because I would never want to have sex with someone, who thought so little of me. And the sex isn't even that good!!!! So yes I would still feel used. Pretend to like me to get sex. How humiliating.
But I know, this is a downfall for me as well, since it keeps me from enjoying sex.

(this is not in relation to a one night stand pr something, where you don't know the person)

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You act very young and seem to have a lot of immaturity and tend to make a lot of assumptions, that's probably part of your problem. If you are the type of woman that has to be buttered up/"romanced" to get in bed, that might be contributing to your dilemmas.

I don't lie to her, at all, I actually help her out A LOT. its just not going to materialize into something else because she doesn't want to change her mentality to interest me in pursuing anything with her.

I don't say "baby, I love you. I want to be with you. let's make passionate love." I come over, I cook, we drink, we talk about HER day/week. she asks me for advice, she's attracted to me. We have sex. She's a pillow princess 85% of the time. she can't ride, she comes and has to take breaks, so I have to jerk off most of the time during sex. and her bjs are more hand jobs. she is hot as fuck, so arm candy and ego pleasing when she begs for dick.

She doesn't get a pass. and i've been sleeping with her long enough to realize this is what it is, and if she wasn't a side friend, i would have been cut her off. She told me the other day, "I make her life better." I don't promise her a future, I am a fwb.

we were laying there one day after she came and she was like "have you ever been in love, like in love". I flat out said "nope, never." I'm not a pillow talker, I'll give you a high five for a job well done.

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Yep. because it's easy for a woman to drop a guy that doesn't do anything for you. but not a man that just doesn't commit, because a lot of women feel they "can change him"... because he's amazing. vs being a deadbeat.

this one girl, shes gorgeous, she has decent, but not great sex and she has nothing else to offer. not conversation, not cooking, not house keeping, no ambition, she wants to be a mom though.

the other night, she was like. I have a good heart, and I think I am great company. wtf, am I supposed to say to that. yeah you are pretty and you seem to have a good heart. but really you are boring/selfish, and not partnership quality?

I told her. I can't see myself settling down (didn't say with her, kept that part to myself), but if you want to see who else is out there that could compliment you, I won't stand in your way, just let me know.

obviously, trying to mitigate the situation screwed up my plans for the night, but I had to keep it 85% lol

I feel like Sags and Virgos tell the most truth to women when dating....

"this one girl, shes gorgeous, she has decent, but not great sex and she has nothing else to offer. not conversation, not cooking, not house keeping, no ambition, she wants to be a mom though."

...she probably thinks she's "the shit" and will be posting on DXP soon. You shoulda helped her a told her the truth but, I guess you wanna come back to the kitty at some point.

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she gets enough male attention that they will sniff her butt enough to say stuff like "oh he wasn't worth it".. or "he didn't deserve you".... get them weak panties and nothing else and her always asking for stuff and they will be out in a few months if not weeks.

The commercialized 'bad' chicks.... are normally crazy as all hell, and really insecure. I wasn't going to trigger her and lose them drawers, so I tried to mitigate my response level to ensure I didn't upset her too much, it was just enough to shut the door on panties that night. My favorite is when they compliment themselves fishing for a co-signer.

I have an issue with bluntness, I make women cry sometimes, they do come back later on and thank me for being brutally honest, but an asshole. I honestly don't say things to be mean.

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Yep. because it's easy for a woman to drop a guy that doesn't do anything for you. but not a man that just doesn't commit, because a lot of women feel they "can change him"... because he's amazing. vs being a deadbeat.

this one girl, shes gorgeous, she has decent, but not great sex and she has nothing else to offer. not conversation, not cooking, not house keeping, no ambition, she wants to be a mom though.

the other night, she was like. I have a good heart, and I think I am great company. wtf, am I supposed to say to that. yeah you are pretty and you seem to have a good heart. but really you are boring/selfish, and not partnership quality?

I told her. I can't see myself settling down (didn't say with her, kept that part to myself), but if you want to see who else is out there that could compliment you, I won't stand in your way, just let me know.

obviously, trying to mitigate the situation screwed up my plans for the night, but I had to keep it 85% lol

I feel like Sags and Virgos tell the most truth to women when dating....

"this one girl, shes gorgeous, she has decent, but not great sex and she has nothing else to offer. not conversation, not cooking, not house keeping, no ambition, she wants to be a mom though."

...she probably thinks she's "the shit" and will be posting on DXP soon. You shoulda helped her a told her the truth but, I guess you wanna come back to the kitty at some point.

See stuff like this. I guess I'm just a different type of person. To not be truthful to try and keep the options for sex open... Even when she was trying to get the truth out of him, and he didn't tell her.
Ofcours he tells her to go meet other guys, and that should be enough, but still... This would make me feel very used. All I read about scorpio is about trust. I guess when the intentons become clear, for me that means I go back and look at everything said and done in a brand new light of 'he wants pussy', and that's all. Everything he does and says is to get pussy. Nothing is hobest or friendly or heart felt. It's all for the pussy. And had I know that to begin with, I would have never gone into it. And now I have to sit there and learn how to be even more distrustful and close myself up even more and feel such regret in my life, because another person was not truthful with me for a long time. The trust is broken and everything changes.
That's how I work mentally.

You cherry pick alot.

As I stated earlier - varying degrees of attraction... she was O for alot.

...she has decent, but not great sex and she has nothing else to offer. not conversation, not cooking, not house keeping, no ambition, she wants to be a mom though."

I don't know what cherry pick means... 🤷🏼‍♀️
But yeah if somebody felt like that about me but kept having sex with me, I mean he would have to lie to my face to make me want to have sex with him, because I would never want to have sex with someone, who thought so little of me. And the sex isn't even that good!!!! So yes I would still feel used. Pretend to like me to get sex. How humiliating.
But I know, this is a downfall for me as well, since it keeps me from enjoying sex.

(this is not in relation to a one night stand pr something, where you don't know the person)

Why cut some one down? I slept with one man in particluar on a regular basis over a year who had " not forever" qualities. He begged me to tell.him why... it was a list just like hellosaggy but I felt it would be degrading to do...list all that. I refused to cut him down like that. I liked the sex becsuse it made me feel good and comforted me though. I like to feel heavily desired...passion. But, no'no no, to anything else.

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Minnisota got some swedish dimes

Minnesota has sweds, german, russian, and ethopian (my favorite).... I swear the imports are better than the domestics. a majority of the women here are too selfish/materialistic.

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Has anyone felt disgusted after orgasm, for having sex with that person?!

Sounds like the sex life of an average man

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more like the average sag lol.

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There isn’t even a sex club around here and it would probably be full of ugly fat fucks 😔

You just don't know where to look. In less than 5 minutes.. I've found 15+ events in the next month for kink friendly individuals in the Detroit area. Quite a few good looking folks too have RSVP.

How
Where to look?
Attractive to my standards?

FetLife

I’m not into fetishes or anything weird
I just want someone I’m attracted to who wants sex

It's not just fetishes. There are many vanilla folks.

Am I just not pretty enough?

Fire moons are pretty on the outside, but too masculine.

Men like women they feel they can control

now that you mention it. all the aries moon women I know are pretty and masculine. the aqua I'm dating is so masculine its annoying at times.

its hard as an aries moon dating another one.

What is your definition of femininity?
How does a feminine woman act vs a masculine woman?

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I'm into gender roles, but not limiting a person to traditional responsibilities. I love to cook. I suck at folding laundry, but I will definitely wash and dry, and I don't mind helping clean, I suck at deep cleaning, but I can be the assistant. I wouldn't sit there while you are running around the house watching tv.

as a partner, I'd like a woman that can be submissive, and dominant at times, but know I am the leader of the relationship and she's the manager.

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Man, every time I see someone posting on this topic I get confused and envision a giant, floppy, gaping vagina. Mine shrinks back up every time. I could get off on a tampon if I wanted to.

oddly aroused by this visual

lord.....

again. if a man wants you, he will do what he's supposed to do. I'm not going to go further than dating until I feel this is someone I want to be exclusive with. if that means she potentially screws another guy or can't wait then it is what it is.

people take their feelings and run with it.

Love is just an emotion. I have practical needs that need to be met in a partnership. can I trust you, can I depend on you, for the things I can't/won't do - can you compliment my weaknesses, is the sex good.

that all has to be met before I decide if a serious relationship is going to be started. Love will come later with the friendship.

any adult, that will jump into a relationship without a dating phase needs to be examined.

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men and women have been manipulating people for sex or whatever else they are after since the beginning of time.

MOST of the time its men wanting sex from a hot girl, unless she's a step above in the socioeconomic ladder.

women typically give up the goods to men higher up on the looks and/or socioeconomic ladder.

it is what it is. its life and its not fair and its what you make of it.

Now mature adults lay out what they want on the table and manage expectations. that's what you need to find,

lol @ women that feel men don't want a relationship in fear of failing. men don't want a relationship in fear of missing out on the next chick that's better than you that comes around. if a man felt you were amazing, he would stay until he found out otherwise. women have to stop believing bullshit just because it makes them feel better.

no man will turn down wifing a woman that's amazing. he might be scared to lose her but he aint going to mess it up by not at least committing to some level of a relationship.

Sex isn't enough to keep me, but bad sex is enough for me NOT to be with you. you have to have other partnership qualities than getting me off, but you better drain me in a variety of ways.

Wow. That's a cute trick how you let yourself off the hook for terrible behavior by claiming that's just life. At least you're honest (to us).

what is terrible behavior? and just because you feel its terrible behavior because you pretend to be the morality police, doesn't make it so.

I'm honest with everybody. The aqua made it clear she doesn't want to know how I entertain myself while she's off with her lesbian partner. so I don't tell her. we set rules for our open relationship. when she leaves to spend a day or two with her girlfriend, she might come back saying she missed me, or give me a sex story or two. I don't offer up anything.

This
"before, when I was jumping around. I did it for purely selfish reasons, I like the variety, sometimes you play on the emotions, to keep them accessible. I don't think men feel women are "stupid" for trusting us. its ignoring the morality of lying to someone's face, that you are supposed to - and pretend - to care about. That's more so on the man than the woman though."

I think this is the exact behavior that the OP feels she was subjected to. Maybe she's right after all, and she met someone like you who just thought you make of life what you will because everyone's an asshole.

I don't even want to be right!! 😭
I have probably presenter myself wrong here many times and many times people assume many things about me based on my postst.

The 5 guys that made me really really sad in my life, the circumstances where different with all of them and everything was different.
First one I didn't do anything sexual with or even kiss for more than a year.
Next 3 ones I got with quickly, thinking it was just gonna be that, but they wanted to keep things going and did so in different ways. One for 5 years. And with him it is like the 5 one, the one where he seems to be such a good guy, and he wad to me for a while, but then he changed, and now he's... Yeah, it's just hard for me to accept, how shitty they really are to me, that there is nothing I can do to not be the girl you treat like shit in their minds. And with this last one it hurts more, because there were months before anything, where he would be good to me.

All of them I met friends and were included in some way, went to different things, were invited to birthdays, but at the same time so much behaviour that shows their true colors. And with this last one it also hurts a lot because he is good to everybody else. I honestly don't know why the fuck he has to almost go out of his way to be a dick to me.
And then on social media he is doing charity work and being funny and cute and very emotional, talking about trust and stuff. Nobody has ever been so... Twofaced with me.

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I'm thinking this is on you and your thinking more than them. first one you just strung along. the next three you hooked up and fell into a relationship. and then this last one probably just his feelings shifted.

I understand it might hurt, but seems like there is some stuff missing that if you laid out would show why things ended or shouldn't have been something in the first place.

people don't just switch up without something being a catalyst to it. maybe you got selfish, or life situation occurred, or just it wasn't a good fit. it happens. I wouldn't take it as an indictment on men. if it happens A LOT, you need to do some introspection and to what is causing your behavior to shift or be toxic where your partners don't want to be around you anymore.

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men and women have been manipulating people for sex or whatever else they are after since the beginning of time.

MOST of the time its men wanting sex from a hot girl, unless she's a step above in the socioeconomic ladder.

women typically give up the goods to men higher up on the looks and/or socioeconomic ladder.

it is what it is. its life and its not fair and its what you make of it.

Now mature adults lay out what they want on the table and manage expectations. that's what you need to find,

lol @ women that feel men don't want a relationship in fear of failing. men don't want a relationship in fear of missing out on the next chick that's better than you that comes around. if a man felt you were amazing, he would stay until he found out otherwise. women have to stop believing bullshit just because it makes them feel better.

no man will turn down wifing a woman that's amazing. he might be scared to lose her but he aint going to mess it up by not at least committing to some level of a relationship.

Sex isn't enough to keep me, but bad sex is enough for me NOT to be with you. you have to have other partnership qualities than getting me off, but you better drain me in a variety of ways.

Wow. That's a cute trick how you let yourself off the hook for terrible behavior by claiming that's just life. At least you're honest (to us).

what is terrible behavior? and just because you feel its terrible behavior because you pretend to be the morality police, doesn't make it so.

I'm honest with everybody. The aqua made it clear she doesn't want to know how I entertain myself while she's off with her lesbian partner. so I don't tell her. we set rules for our open relationship. when she leaves to spend a day or two with her girlfriend, she might come back saying she missed me, or give me a sex story or two. I don't offer up anything.

This
"before, when I was jumping around. I did it for purely selfish reasons, I like the variety, sometimes you play on the emotions, to keep them accessible. I don't think men feel women are "stupid" for trusting us. its ignoring the morality of lying to someone's face, that you are supposed to - and pretend - to care about. That's more so on the man than the woman though."

I think this is the exact behavior that the OP feels she was subjected to. Maybe she's right after all, and she met someone like you who just thought you make of life what you will because everyone's an asshole.

I agree and I was telling her, that's the shit she needs to be cognizant of and avoid. don't just settle into a quiet routine that's words and no actions, because its a set up.

Some of y'all are just way too smooth. I guess there's women like that too, though.

being smooth and talking smooth are two things. I hate men that talks smooth because there isn't any substance. I'm very smooth, but I can tell you this, being very smooth costs a lot of money. A lot of times my words and actions don't match. I'll treat you amazingly, but only want you for a fwb type situation. it messes women up, because its normally the opposite. with me you have to listen to what I tell you. because I'm not going to lie to you, its just women expect lies or trying to play a game, when I am not playing.

of course if you a fwb, and we sleeping together, if you are having issues im going to help. when you stressed out we aren't going to be sleeping together lol.

most women don't like having multiple partners, so when you get a guy that looks out for you, is your friend, and you have great sex with they start settling for the side position.

The virgo I am seeing gives amazing bjs, we are good friends, she asked if we could be together (we've been fwb since october), I told her no, not at this time. she is dating a new guy since Dec, we haven't had sex in two weeks. ehhh, sucks but it is what it is.

I think your kind of smooth is more dangerous than the smooth talkers. It's easier for us to spot a smooth-talker. I don't know if you've noticed there's a mantra around here that goes "pay attention to what he _does_, not what he says!" That's clearly the wrong advice in many situations.

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Yep. because it's easy for a woman to drop a guy that doesn't do anything for you. but not a man that just doesn't commit, because a lot of women feel they "can change him"... because he's amazing. vs being a deadbeat.

this one girl, shes gorgeous, she has decent, but not great sex and she has nothing else to offer. not conversation, not cooking, not house keeping, no ambition, she wants to be a mom though.

the other night, she was like. I have a good heart, and I think I am great company. wtf, am I supposed to say to that. yeah you are pretty and you seem to have a good heart. but really you are boring/selfish, and not partnership quality?

I told her. I can't see myself settling down (didn't say with her, kept that part to myself), but if you want to see who else is out there that could compliment you, I won't stand in your way, just let me know.

obviously, trying to mitigate the situation screwed up my plans for the night, but I had to keep it 85% lol

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Posted by UnusualVaginalDischarge
Men are such shit I swear to God!
The sexual rejection is getting to me
Not one regular sex partner to be had
And everyone is so fucking ugly, I swear
I just don't get it, why is this my life?
No good sex
no regular sex
no attractive men
no fun
what is the point of living?
You can't ask for sex because that makes you too loose, you can't not want sex because that makes you a prude wth. You can only have sex when it's at HIS convenience.
Do men just not want sex at all?
Where in the world do I need to move to?

HAhaha this many women's problems..not just you

the only community having a good time right now is the poly community

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yo where are these damn women at!

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There isn’t even a sex club around here and it would probably be full of ugly fat fucks 😔

You just don't know where to look. In less than 5 minutes.. I've found 15+ events in the next month for kink friendly individuals in the Detroit area. Quite a few good looking folks too have RSVP.

How
Where to look?
Attractive to my standards?

FetLife

I’m not into fetishes or anything weird
I just want someone I’m attracted to who wants sex

It's not just fetishes. There are many vanilla folks.

Am I just not pretty enough?

Fire moons are pretty on the outside, but too masculine.

Men like women they feel they can control

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now that you mention it. all the aries moon women I know are pretty and masculine. the aqua I'm dating is so masculine its annoying at times.

its hard as an aries moon dating another one.

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Posted by virgoOPPP
Sag men are liars.

don't fall for their bullshit.

Lol. You just dated one for 5 seconds the other day 😩😩🤣🤣🤣

don't get me wrong, i like Sag females

but this the 2nd time i date a Sag male and it always sucks

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We don't suck. what we say typically doesn't always match what we do. we romanticize , but are distant. you would like me if we talked.

you have to set expectations, and adhere to them, to not be disappointed, but you better be willing to offer the same or more in return, we are all about fairness.

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men and women have been manipulating people for sex or whatever else they are after since the beginning of time.

MOST of the time its men wanting sex from a hot girl, unless she's a step above in the socioeconomic ladder.

women typically give up the goods to men higher up on the looks and/or socioeconomic ladder.

it is what it is. its life and its not fair and its what you make of it.

Now mature adults lay out what they want on the table and manage expectations. that's what you need to find,

lol @ women that feel men don't want a relationship in fear of failing. men don't want a relationship in fear of missing out on the next chick that's better than you that comes around. if a man felt you were amazing, he would stay until he found out otherwise. women have to stop believing bullshit just because it makes them feel better.

no man will turn down wifing a woman that's amazing. he might be scared to lose her but he aint going to mess it up by not at least committing to some level of a relationship.

Sex isn't enough to keep me, but bad sex is enough for me NOT to be with you. you have to have other partnership qualities than getting me off, but you better drain me in a variety of ways.

Wow. That's a cute trick how you let yourself off the hook for terrible behavior by claiming that's just life. At least you're honest (to us).

what is terrible behavior? and just because you feel its terrible behavior because you pretend to be the morality police, doesn't make it so.

I'm honest with everybody. The aqua made it clear she doesn't want to know how I entertain myself while she's off with her lesbian partner. so I don't tell her. we set rules for our open relationship. when she leaves to spend a day or two with her girlfriend, she might come back saying she missed me, or give me a sex story or two. I don't offer up anything.

This
"before, when I was jumping around. I did it for purely selfish reasons, I like the variety, sometimes you play on the emotions, to keep them accessible. I don't think men feel women are "stupid" for trusting us. its ignoring the morality of lying to someone's face, that you are supposed to - and pretend - to care about. That's more so on the man than the woman though."

I think this is the exact behavior that the OP feels she was subjected to. Maybe she's right after all, and she met someone like you who just thought you make of life what you will because everyone's an asshole.

I agree and I was telling her, that's the shit she needs to be cognizant of and avoid. don't just settle into a quiet routine that's words and no actions, because its a set up.

Some of y'all are just way too smooth. I guess there's women like that too, though.

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being smooth and talking smooth are two things. I hate men that talks smooth because there isn't any substance. I'm very smooth, but I can tell you this, being very smooth costs a lot of money. A lot of times my words and actions don't match. I'll treat you amazingly, but only want you for a fwb type situation. it messes women up, because its normally the opposite. with me you have to listen to what I tell you. because I'm not going to lie to you, its just women expect lies or trying to play a game, when I am not playing.

of course if you a fwb, and we sleeping together, if you are having issues im going to help. when you stressed out we aren't going to be sleeping together lol.

most women don't like having multiple partners, so when you get a guy that looks out for you, is your friend, and you have great sex with they start settling for the side position.

The virgo I am seeing gives amazing bjs, we are good friends, she asked if we could be together (we've been fwb since october), I told her no, not at this time. she is dating a new guy since Dec, we haven't had sex in two weeks. ehhh, sucks but it is what it is.

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Posted by hellosaggy
men and women have been manipulating people for sex or whatever else they are after since the beginning of time.

MOST of the time its men wanting sex from a hot girl, unless she's a step above in the socioeconomic ladder.

women typically give up the goods to men higher up on the looks and/or socioeconomic ladder.

it is what it is. its life and its not fair and its what you make of it.

Now mature adults lay out what they want on the table and manage expectations. that's what you need to find,

lol @ women that feel men don't want a relationship in fear of failing. men don't want a relationship in fear of missing out on the next chick that's better than you that comes around. if a man felt you were amazing, he would stay until he found out otherwise. women have to stop believing bullshit just because it makes them feel better.

no man will turn down wifing a woman that's amazing. he might be scared to lose her but he aint going to mess it up by not at least committing to some level of a relationship.

Sex isn't enough to keep me, but bad sex is enough for me NOT to be with you. you have to have other partnership qualities than getting me off, but you better drain me in a variety of ways.

Wow. That's a cute trick how you let yourself off the hook for terrible behavior by claiming that's just life. At least you're honest (to us).

what is terrible behavior? and just because you feel its terrible behavior because you pretend to be the morality police, doesn't make it so.

I'm honest with everybody. The aqua made it clear she doesn't want to know how I entertain myself while she's off with her lesbian partner. so I don't tell her. we set rules for our open relationship. when she leaves to spend a day or two with her girlfriend, she might come back saying she missed me, or give me a sex story or two. I don't offer up anything.

This
"before, when I was jumping around. I did it for purely selfish reasons, I like the variety, sometimes you play on the emotions, to keep them accessible. I don't think men feel women are "stupid" for trusting us. its ignoring the morality of lying to someone's face, that you are supposed to - and pretend - to care about. That's more so on the man than the woman though."

I think this is the exact behavior that the OP feels she was subjected to. Maybe she's right after all, and she met someone like you who just thought you make of life what you will because everyone's an asshole.

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I agree and I was telling her, that's the shit she needs to be cognizant of and avoid. don't just settle into a quiet routine that's words and no actions, because its a set up.

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Posted by hellosaggy

Posted by Phantom_Limbo

Posted by hellosaggy
men and women have been manipulating people for sex or whatever else they are after since the beginning of time.

MOST of the time its men wanting sex from a hot girl, unless she's a step above in the socioeconomic ladder.

women typically give up the goods to men higher up on the looks and/or socioeconomic ladder.

it is what it is. its life and its not fair and its what you make of it.

Now mature adults lay out what they want on the table and manage expectations. that's what you need to find,

lol @ women that feel men don't want a relationship in fear of failing. men don't want a relationship in fear of missing out on the next chick that's better than you that comes around. if a man felt you were amazing, he would stay until he found out otherwise. women have to stop believing bullshit just because it makes them feel better.

no man will turn down wifing a woman that's amazing. he might be scared to lose her but he aint going to mess it up by not at least committing to some level of a relationship.

Sex isn't enough to keep me, but bad sex is enough for me NOT to be with you. you have to have other partnership qualities than getting me off, but you better drain me in a variety of ways.

Wow. That's a cute trick how you let yourself off the hook for terrible behavior by claiming that's just life. At least you're honest (to us).

what is terrible behavior? and just because you feel its terrible behavior because you pretend to be the morality police, doesn't make it so.

I'm honest with everybody. The aqua made it clear she doesn't want to know how I entertain myself while she's off with her lesbian partner. so I don't tell her. we set rules for our open relationship. when she leaves to spend a day or two with her girlfriend, she might come back saying she missed me, or give me a sex story or two. I don't offer up anything.

This
"before, when I was jumping around. I did it for purely selfish reasons, I like the variety, sometimes you play on the emotions, to keep them accessible. I don't think men feel women are "stupid" for trusting us. its ignoring the morality of lying to someone's face, that you are supposed to - and pretend - to care about. That's more so on the man than the woman though."

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Nah, I was explaining the mentality. I didn't say it was right. I agree, its shitty behavior.