Neno2
Neno2 joined January 31, 2017Posted by Echo
Posted by Neno2
Posted by Echo
These hoes ain’t loyal, they just see what they like and see if they could treetrunk it
We are loyal
Your eyes ain’t loyal boiiii, shushclick to expand
I am loyal whole including my eyes😀
Me(loyal af)
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SeePosted by Echo
These hoes ain’t loyal, they just see what they like and see if they could treetrunk it
We are loyalPosted by Jumpin_Jupiter
In real life I like how they find my humor hilarious
. This with the Scorpio women I encounters.
Anything else?😃- A serious thread about the good qualities u encountered in scorpios😃
- All i read was that we are brave👍
Posted by Biboroon
Posted by Neno2
Posted by Biboroon
Posted by Neno2
Ideals are just there for motivational purposes,they motivate us to do things but they cant ever be achieved.
Take TRUE LOVE for example:
We love to think its possible in this world,we idealize it,we watch movies and dream about it,as soon we try to achieve it we fail miserably cuz its not applicable in the real world.
In romantic relationship we try to emulate things from movies and all we actually achieve is to turn off our partner.
Life works backwards and human attraction and love are actually just a shallow copy of the ideal that is love created in our mind and dreams.
Life crushes your dreams and makes u more heartless
Just a thought😃its ok if u dont agree but u can add your two cents
What is your venus sign?
Capricorn😃
Why?
Idk I was just curious because you sound like a rational scorpioclick to expand
I am an intj after all😃scorpio + cap + cancer dominantPosted by neves
Posted by Neno2
Posted by neves
Posted by Neno2
Posted by neves
An "Ideal" implies a "Best Case Scenario" - so called "Perfection". It's simply an image of how things could be (if perfection was possible). A perfect (therefore ideal) fantasy - if you will. Tho, perfection is an illusion. It's impossible to achieve - cause that's simply not the nature of this universe (ever-changing and unpredictable). Even so... there are people who managed to get close to perfection. I mean, even if that given scenario didn't turn-up to be completely ideal/perfect (100% ), more like 80% (more or less...) - that's still something they could work with. And that's just it... "a lot of people are adaptable (the really stubborn ones are usually an exception from this list)."They can work with what they got - as if things were ideal (even tho - they're just close to that).
Here's a simplistic example (cause modern relationships tend to be more complex - there's a lot of things to take in consideration) - from our modern world: realistically speaking there's around 90% probability (more or less) - for each plane enrolled in a flight to reach its destination. Yet, most people responsible for flying a plane to its destination - manage to work with a situation less than ideal - as if it was. And that has a lot to do with people's adaptable nature.
That being said, for mature people (the people who can grasp the outcome of a situation realistically) - ideals are simply a source of inspiration.
The next question is:
Whats the point?everything is meaningless
Life is just passing time without getting too bored,we literally do things so the time can fly faster
That's up to each and everyone of us. I mean, compared to inanimate objects or compared to the rest of the animal kingdom - humans have the capability to write and change their own story. Apparently, you chose nihilism as your core belief (at least for the time being). So hey, that's your choice - and same goes for others alike. I've been there for awhile as well and imo - nihilism is a boring, lazy and depressive choice. It's like starting a game and instead of trying to enjoy that experience (and playing that actual game as one sees fit) - a nihilist might open the chat box and type meaningless nihilistic stuff the whole time he's there: "What's the point?! We're all gonna loose or win anyway. Eventually the game will end so there's no point in playing it in the first place... and so on and so forth..." That's simply not my cup of tea. But hey, maybe it is yours. It's not my place to judge - as long as you're not hurting anyone while indulging in that...
Facts make it hard to not be a nihilist😅
Nah, when you adopt that type of thinking - you can't see the forest for the trees (you focus only on specific facts - and that with tunnel vision). You're missing the bigger picture (or any other picture for that matter) - or another way to put it.... you join the club of people who see this world only in black and white. And sure, black and white is also part of this world (the so called facts you mentioned) - but there's also a large spectrum of colors and all kinds of shades in between. After all, it's also a fact that most of us go through a long journey till we get to reach our final destination. And that's what many people chose to focus upon... their journey. We all die and that's fact, but the life before death is also a fact. Meaningful (full of meaning) for some - meaningless (meaning less) for others.click to expand
Lets agree to disagreePosted by neves
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Posted by neves
An "Ideal" implies a "Best Case Scenario" - so called "Perfection". It's simply an image of how things could be (if perfection was possible). A perfect (therefore ideal) fantasy - if you will. Tho, perfection is an illusion. It's impossible to achieve - cause that's simply not the nature of this universe (ever-changing and unpredictable). Even so... there are people who managed to get close to perfection. I mean, even if that given scenario didn't turn-up to be completely ideal/perfect (100% ), more like 80% (more or less...) - that's still something they could work with. And that's just it... "a lot of people are adaptable (the really stubborn ones are usually an exception from this list)."They can work with what they got - as if things were ideal (even tho - they're just close to that).
Here's a simplistic example (cause modern relationships tend to be more complex - there's a lot of things to take in consideration) - from our modern world: realistically speaking there's around 90% probability (more or less) - for each plane enrolled in a flight to reach its destination. Yet, most people responsible for flying a plane to its destination - manage to work with a situation less than ideal - as if it was. And that has a lot to do with people's adaptable nature.
That being said, for mature people (the people who can grasp the outcome of a situation realistically) - ideals are simply a source of inspiration.
The next question is:
Whats the point?everything is meaningless
Life is just passing time without getting too bored,we literally do things so the time can fly faster
That's up to each and everyone of us. I mean, compared to inanimate objects or compared to the rest of the animal kingdom - humans have the capability to write and change their own story. Apparently, you chose nihilism as your core belief (at least for the time being). So hey, that's your choice - and same goes for others alike. I've been there for awhile as well and imo - nihilism is a boring, lazy and depressive choice. It's like starting a game and instead of trying to enjoy that experience (and playing that actual game as one sees fit) - a nihilist might open the chat box and type meaningless nihilistic stuff the whole time he's there: "What's the point?! We're all gonna loose or win anyway. Eventually the game will end so there's no point in playing it in the first place... and so on and so forth..." That's simply not my cup of tea. But hey, maybe it is yours. It's not my place to judge - as long as you're not hurting anyone while indulging in that...click to expand
Facts make it hard to not be a nihilist😅Posted by Biboroon
Posted by Neno2
Ideals are just there for motivational purposes,they motivate us to do things but they cant ever be achieved.
Take TRUE LOVE for example:
We love to think its possible in this world,we idealize it,we watch movies and dream about it,as soon we try to achieve it we fail miserably cuz its not applicable in the real world.
In romantic relationship we try to emulate things from movies and all we actually achieve is to turn off our partner.
Life works backwards and human attraction and love are actually just a shallow copy of the ideal that is love created in our mind and dreams.
Life crushes your dreams and makes u more heartless
Just a thought😃its ok if u dont agree but u can add your two cents
What is your venus sign?click to expand
Capricorn😃
Why?- Let me just say that i am a November scorpio
Case closed Posted by neves
An "Ideal" implies a "Best Case Scenario" - so called "Perfection". It's simply an image of how things could be (if perfection was possible). A perfect (therefore ideal) fantasy - if you will. Tho, perfection is an illusion. It's impossible to achieve - cause that's simply not the nature of this universe (ever-changing and unpredictable). Even so... there are people who managed to get close to perfection. I mean, even if that given scenario didn't turn-up to be completely ideal/perfect (100% ), more like 80% (more or less...) - that's still something they could work with. And that's just it... "a lot of people are adaptable (the really stubborn ones are usually an exception from this list)."They can work with what they got - as if things were ideal (even tho - they're just close to that).
Here's a simplistic example (cause modern relationships tend to be more complex - there's a lot of things to take in consideration) - from our modern world: realistically speaking there's around 90% probability (more or less) - for each plane enrolled in a flight to reach its destination. Yet, most people responsible for flying a plane to its destination - manage to work with a situation less than ideal - as if it was. And that has a lot to do with people's adaptable nature.
That being said, for mature people (the people who can grasp the outcome of a situation realistically) - ideals are simply a source of inspiration.
The next question is:
Whats the point?everything is meaningless
Life is just passing time without getting too bored,we literally do things so the time can fly fasterPosted by nanorobot
All of your feely water placements put way too much stock into romantic ideations, “dreaming about true love” 😂😂😂
Some of us don’t operate that way, or idolize it, like at all. What I idolize is MONEY. And that’s tangible.
You're still a woman,u still can get manipulated by your own emotions
Yes,i have ideals also i am a cynic so ik whats real and whats notPosted by ClassyAquarius
Posted by Neno2
Posted by ClassyAquarius
Posted by Neno2
Posted by ClassyAquarius
Choosing based on flaws that we can't stand and those we can, is idealising partner?
Its idealizing love and projecting it towards our partner then getting disappointed cuz our partner cant give us ideal love
And what is your solution?
I am just pissed that people dont know things about life,how things work and are
Lets be truthful about everything,not lie to ourselves so we can feel better
In terms of love just accept your partners flaws and your flaws should be accepted
I can't agree with you completly. I won't stay with guy who has for example alcohol addiction and he won't try to be sober which means work on his flaw.click to expand
I meant that people should be realistic
That alcoholic person should be realistic and know he would be dumped if he doesn't wirk in himself not dream about eternal love while hes a drunk
It annoys me when people dont know things in life so they believe in delusionsPosted by SaintAmour
If true love doesn't exist then why do I love sushi so much? Case closed! ☺️
Romantic love is implied😃Posted by ClassyAquarius
Posted by Neno2
Posted by ClassyAquarius
Choosing based on flaws that we can't stand and those we can, is idealising partner?
Its idealizing love and projecting it towards our partner then getting disappointed cuz our partner cant give us ideal love
And what is your solution?click to expand
I am just pissed that people dont know things about life,how things work and are
Lets be truthful about everything,not lie to ourselves so we can feel better
In terms of love just accept your partners flaws and your flaws should be acceptedPosted by Timon
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Posted by Timon
So you don't believe in true love? Maybe all its imperfections and faults is what makes it true.
I dont believe in it cuz its proven with facts that it doesn't exist
It depends on how it's defined. What would true love be for you? If true love equals to what you see in movies then yeh that most likely won't happen.click to expand
I guess true love means different things for different peoplePosted by MareInfame
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This reminds me of the talks between Ra's al Ghul and Bruce Wayne at the start of Batman Begins.
I'd watch it recently and damn, it actually gets better as a film with age (imo).
The long and short of it was that Ra's telling Bruce that he has to commit himself to an ideal, otherwise he won't know the difference between a life well lived or just using his skill for nothing more than jockeying for position.
Neither of them had true love on the brain though. Which some would say explains Bruce's psychotic rage in a nutshell.
Thanks for letting me drop my 2 cents.
Interesting 🤔
U need a ideal to work towards achieving it
Yes. This is how I function. Most of what I have strongly felt as ideal, came to fruition later. And as later arrived, I perfected or added on to the ideal. And I just keep it going....click to expand
To be happy u need to be a little delusional
U need to believe an Ideal can be achived which of course it cantPosted by Phantum
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Posted by Phantum
Life isn't a movie.
True but irrelevant to my question
Care to elaborate it more?
The romantic version of love that is exciting and desperate and celebrated in movies can't coexist with everyday life unless your everyday life is extremely unstable. That's why the story ends when they get together, and it says "and they lived happily ever after." That part is boring.click to expand
Actually a very smart answer
I fully agree
