Mercurian and Venusian First Decan Leo. Third Decan Aquarius Rising. 6th House Sun, Mercury, and Saturn. 8th House Moon, Uranus and Node. 3rd Hou

No idea what happened. Thread disappeared and I didn’t look into it any further.
Posted by El_toro_loco
Posted by seraph
Posted by El_toro_loco
Posted by seraph
Publicizing the fact that private conversations are taking place and divulging the type of media that was exchanged probably isn’t helping.


Or.... and hear me out..... maybe getting all the cards out on the table is the BEST THING?



We really need to know that you two talk on IG and exchange pics and whatnot, and probably PM everywhere else and engage in who knows what, because that obviously tells us exactly why she left and where she went.


2 things:

1) The fact that I made this post and it got the response it got, or the fact that people have been tagging her in stuff for the last few days with no response, should tell her people like her. That should help her in whatever issues she's having. Wouldn't you want to know that people you don't know in person like you enough to notice when you aren't around? Especially when you're going through some tough times?

2) I'm an open and honest person. I stand on my principles and I don't bend. She messaged me seeking advice, I tried to help the best I could. The pics she sent were directly related to said problem. Whatever your imagination dreams up isn't my problem. Do I know what she discussed with other people? No I don't, nor do I care.

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You’re probably a good person and you mean well. I have no idea for certain but I have no problem assuming that at the outset.

And really, you don’t need to adhere to basic discretion all the time; you can do whatever you like. But understand that it’s good policy to stick to it, and that not sticking to it increases the chances of creating more work for yourself and quite possibly discomfort for others.

It isn’t about intentions or how nice you are. It’s about common sense.
Posted by El_toro_loco
Posted by seraph
Publicizing the fact that private conversations are taking place and divulging the type of media that was exchanged probably isn’t helping.


Or.... and hear me out..... maybe getting all the cards out on the table is the BEST THING?

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We really need to know that you two talk on IG and exchange pics and whatnot, and probably PM everywhere else and engage in who knows what, because that obviously tells us exactly why she left and where she went.
Publicizing the fact that private conversations are taking place and divulging the type of media that was exchanged probably isn’t helping.
Posted by DonumDei
Posted by seraph
Posted by DonumDei
Posted by seraph
Happy Belated, DDei! Hope it was beautiful.






Seraph!!! 😊 Allways a privilege to be graced by your presence! Thanks a million! I was a beautiful day indeed but you guys make it all that more special. Anew every year it seems!

I’d hug you but am afraid I might ruin you perfectly groomed mane!

💞


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Hahaha.... 😂

Omg that face of shock and horror...!!! I’d suggest trying out new conditioner but I shan’t add insult to the injury!

Still laughing over her!

T’was puuurfect!

😻

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😉
Posted by DonumDei
Posted by seraph
Happy Belated, DDei! Hope it was beautiful.






Seraph!!! 😊 Allways a privilege to be graced by your presence! Thanks a million! I was a beautiful day indeed but you guys make it all that more special. Anew every year it seems!

I’d hug you but am afraid I might ruin you perfectly groomed mane!

💞
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Yep.

















Happy Belated, DDei! Hope it was beautiful.



It’d probably need to be about as high as the cruising altitude of a modern airliner. Ijs
Posted by edgelord
Posted by seraph
Posted by edgelord
This is the thread to throw Leo’s under the bus

@seraph 😂


The signs will always be victims of their own descriptions, as will the folks who take them seriously. Just have to grin and bear it.

I get “omg food” and you get “omg egomaniac”

😂
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Posted by HoneyXx
Posted by seraph
Posted by edgelord
This is the thread to throw Leo’s under the bus

@seraph 😂


The signs will always be victims of their own descriptions, as will the folks who take them seriously. Just have to grin and bear it.


exactly, it's all in the name of fun.
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Agreed, you're right. Astrology, like any system, regardless of any criticism about it, is just another tool. Use your ("you" generally) tools, don't be them.

So...



don't be a tool. Lol
Posted by edgelord
This is the thread to throw Leo’s under the bus

@seraph 😂


The signs will always be victims of their own descriptions, as will the folks who take them seriously. Just have to grin and bear it.
It isn't really the Constitutional right as such that is the issue. It's the culture that grows up around it, supports it and enshrines it. Essentially, Culture before Constitution. Culture (thoughts, attitudes, ideas, principles that inform one's world view; the way a person looks at the phenomenon of life as a whole, and so on). Culture, in turn, leads to legislation, which then reifies culture. This raises some chicken-and-egg questions, but it makes no difference: you can't necessarily change or implement legislation without at least some degree of cultural motivation.

In Canada, for example, we don't have any Constitutional right to bear arms. But there isn't any disturbance about this. There is no politically powerful and massively funded gun lobby. Gun ownership and licensing in Canada is still available, though there are reasonable restrictions. However, it's not a big deal, it's boring, and it's pretty quiet. It's a lot like Canadian culture at large. The connection isn't merely incidental, as I'm sure those reading this post up to this point have surmised.

No matter what country we talk about, though, it comes down to attitudes; how one thinks about their environment, including neighbours, peers, race, self-interest vs. collective interest, and so on. These run very deep, well beyond, below, and prior to all general sociopolitical issues of the day.

The current state of gun control and general ideas and expectations about gun ownership will not change, and quite frankly it's a waste of time having any discussion about it at current superficial levels, because all such discussion is exactly that: totally superficial. Especially given the prevailing sociopolitical climate. November 8, 2016 showed everyone just how powerful and deeply entrenched certain forces are in the United States. Until the discussion turns to fundamental questions about what it is to be a person struggling with self-interested motivations, fears about difference and otherness, and how mind projects false ideas and concepts about what it is to be a "person", a "someone", a "differentiated being", current problems will take generation upon generation to resolve, and even then it's a crapshoot, because as we write about this now, there are children or children-to-be-born, to parents that are part of the very forces that undergird these problems. Conversations are happening between family members at dinner tables across the country, between parents and children, and really, are these children being taught any better than their distant forebears whom we love to point at accusingly? I'm not sure they are. Today's environment is not encouraging.

The United States, as any other country built on, shaped and supported by the values of its people, is the way it is today because it's culturally natural for it to be that way. Tragedies and all. Warts and all. Until this is accepted for what it is, and moreover until the deeper questions are asked – which unfortunately is something that folks can only really wake up to individually, and only those fully ready to challenge their very self-concept, nothing much will change. Things will naturally progress to whatever they need to be and there isn't anything anyone can do about it. You're just along for the ride.

When you've been pouring all your ideas, energies and resources into the same problem for years, even decades without solving it, then you're working on the wrong problem.

The matter at its core is not a social or political one, but a deeply existential one, and most people aren't even conscious of it.
Posted by lisabethur8
Posted by seraph
The problem isn’t that you’re arguing, debating, or discussing in whatever way. These things happen. They’re normal. An impassioned speech, a heartfelt dialogue, a fiery (hopefully controlled) verbal barrage. All kinds of personalities and expressions to match.

The sticky part is not attaching to and investing emotionally in any of it beyond the moment itself. One can be committed to something while at the same time being able to turn it on and off to serve the needs of the moment. Sometimes you’ll slip. Perfection is a myth. But it’s good, healthy policy to not take any of if it with you when you get up from your chair, or you put the phone down, or you leave the room, and so on. Don’t attach to anything beyond its purpose in the moment. Easier said than done, but practicing this - even imperfectly - is better than not at all. Baby steps eventually turn into great journeys of countless miles.

When you get into it, see yourself getting into it. Catch yourself and observe yourself throughout the discussion or event. Keep the self-checking going. It’ll become second nature after a while. Self-expression while still being mindful. In this way you’ll express what you need to and how you need to without getting lost in the moment. Without losing your self. It’s never personal.

After having done this there’s really no way to carry any of it with you, because throughout the event you’ve stood back from it all while at the same time standing right up front. How and why? Because you were busy doing justice to the idea, the concept, the real purpose behind it, rather than trying satisfy personal feelings, vanity, and the interest of self-conscious impulse. If you can make it about the subject - the ideas - rather than your own self-centred feelings about it, you can walk away relaxed, and moreover stand confidently behind what you’ve said.

So when you’re at the point when you feel it’s time to not engage in any discussion at all - when you’ve just had enough for a while, it’ll feel like just another outcome of a process, like entering a room, doing what you need to do, and then leaving it for a while and maybe entering it again later. No big story or bother about it.




i get "professor" smart high IQ vibes from seraph..



that's enough to make walls. lol
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Lol he's blushing in the pic, too.

Well you really only learn a lot of this from your own mistakes, until you get to a point where your foot's on the ground more (more or less, Lol) than it's in your mouth. Need to keep at it.

The problem isn’t that you’re arguing, debating, or discussing in whatever way. These things happen. They’re normal. An impassioned speech, a heartfelt dialogue, a fiery (hopefully controlled) verbal barrage. All kinds of personalities and expressions to match.

The sticky part is not attaching to and investing emotionally in any of it beyond the moment itself. One can be committed to something while at the same time being able to turn it on and off to serve the needs of the moment. Sometimes you’ll slip. Perfection is a myth. But it’s good, healthy policy to not take any of if it with you when you get up from your chair, or you put the phone down, or you leave the room, and so on. Don’t attach to anything beyond its purpose in the moment. Easier said than done, but practicing this - even imperfectly - is better than not at all. Baby steps eventually turn into great journeys of countless miles.

When you get into it, see yourself getting into it. Catch yourself and observe yourself throughout the discussion or event. Keep the self-checking going. It’ll become second nature after a while. Self-expression while still being mindful. In this way you’ll express what you need to and how you need to without getting lost in the moment. Without losing your self. It’s never personal.

After having done this there’s really no way to carry any of it with you, because throughout the event you’ve stood back from it all while at the same time standing right up front. How and why? Because you were busy doing justice to the idea, the concept, the real purpose behind it, rather than trying satisfy personal feelings, vanity, and the interest of self-conscious impulse. If you can make it about the subject - the ideas - rather than your own self-centred feelings about it, you can walk away relaxed, and moreover stand confidently behind what you’ve said.

So when you’re at the point when you feel it’s time to not engage in any discussion at all - when you’ve just had enough for a while, it’ll feel like just another outcome of a process, like entering a room, doing what you need to do, and then leaving it for a while and maybe entering it again later. No big story or bother about it.
😄 Nicely done
Posted by AneemA04
Posted by seraph
If you bring your “problems” everywhere like luggage eventually someone is going to point things out to you. Especially if you keep doing that with the same people.


I guess so. I rarely vented to him though. I swear he is the talker whenever we meet up. He's talkactive.
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It might seem unexpected that he’s been somehow placed in the role of a very active listener, given that you probably do a lot of your venting elsewhere, but best policy is always to turn it around and deal with what you’re venting about, since you can’t control what others say and do in the first place. You already know this, obviously, but it bears mentioning anyway.
All these race threads of yours eventually morph into a display of your personal struggle for identity.