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OP loves him oh so very much, all of us are misguided, incapable of seeing she is right (if you don't agree) annnnd if you disagree you're a heartless shrew.

@Ixi @Sagoxa according to my situation, what do you think is happening? Is he still loving me? Or did he forget me and moved on? Should I move on too? Or should I try harder? It's been a month that I stopped hearing from him anything and I don't have any communication with him as I stopped contacting.

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So, this virgo guy was always sweet with me earlier. But suddenly he blocked me on WhatsApp one day and for three months it went on like that. I am literally crying myself out thinking what wrong I have done. He had a crush on me earlier. But after he talking to me for some days, I was blocked from his WhatsApp. Then after 3 months, I called him to know the reason for his block so that I can get a closure. He spoke with me very sweetly. I got doubt, whether it was him only who blocked me or someone else. So that day he told me not to worry, assured that everything is ok, and I didn't yet ask him about his block but he told me that he's very busy and he'll call me back the next day. So, after this happened, I didn't waited for him to call me back, and I myself returned him the call the next day, and his brother spoke to me. He was very harsh like who are you? I told him my name and that I need to talk to this virgo man. He rudely responded and cutted the call. After that I thought he'll call me back. But he didn't. I only called him but my calls weren't being lifted.. I messaged, they weren't being responded! I got doubt whether something happened since his brother spoke to me, I reached out his bestie and asked him why he is doing like this. His bestie said, his phone was taken off by his bro and his father. They are not letting him use it. So, after this I was worried, and I called him many times and messaged him asking about truths, but no response and got blocked everywhere, on WhatsApp, calls, text messaging. So, I was absolutely afraid of what's happening and asked his mutual friend to ask him how things are. His mutual friend was afraid of his father so he told me he couldn't help me due to fear. He cutted off contact with me in fears that his father will scold his mutual friend. After that I only take risk of calling him through other ways, and his brother lifted the call and started scolding me very harshly and asked me what's going on between us. I was afraid and told him that we're just friends but his brother is not trusting my words. So I asked him to let me speak with this virgo man, and he gave him under his supervision. This virgo man said me that his brother was very very angry on him and was scolding him a lot about my calls and messages. He told me not to call to that number since his brother is using it. His brother was very harshly scolding him while we were expressing our concerns. He told me that he'll talk to me afterwards. I said ok and cutted the call. I received a message that never call me or message me. I got angry and scolded him as much as I want in message and I scolded him in every possible way. I didn't get a reply. My messages were not seen. I didn't message him for a few days and left him alone. I again messaged him yesterday telling him that I hate him a lot and I got a reply that go and get a life. I don't know who replied that. I was guessing it's him, and started expressing him my feelings about love. And I got a response, i will block you now, be careful! I was like shocked. Any boy will usually welcome a girl's proposal. But this boy I know he cares, but I don't know why I got a reply like this harshly for the first time. He was never this harshly responded me earlier. I'm getting doubt whether someone else replied me ( his brother or father ) or him only. What do you think? And what should I do now? I knew he loved me once, and I was showing him my love feelings for the first time yesterday, and didn't even propose him fully saying I love you. I was just giving him signs through my messages and I received a harsh response. Who might have done it? Him? Or his brother? Or his father? How should I know things from him now?

You sound annoying as treetrunk. If he blocked you, you should've taken the big ass L and moved on instead of causing drama with his entire family.

Why do I sound annoying? Why don't my love appear in my actions?

Because you're pushing the issue enough to get his family annoyed with you. From what you described, you guys weren't officially a couple so for this to happen is unreasonable. Besides, if his family is getting involved, that's a big sign you need to separate yourself from him. Trust me. When I cut off my last ex, he tried every way to communicate with me but I'd blocked him on everything, and he got my family involved and begged them to pass along messages from him to me like a treetrunking loser. My dad lost his butter with my ex at that point and I'm just tired of the whole thing. When family gets involved, it's never a situation you want to stay in.

I would never cut off if I had someone doing the same for me like your ex did to you. I don't think he is a loser, because I'm feeling he may have loved you truly, so he crossed his self respect for you and risked himself by trying to pass you messages through your family. It just shows how much love he had for you, and he didn't wanted to lose you, so he kept down all his ego to get you back, because he truly loved you. In my case, who are his family to break our love? Why are they not letting us contact with each other? They don't have any right to break us apart. If he loves me, and if he still wants to be with me, I'm ready to fight with anyone just to be with him

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I'm in my 20s

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So, this virgo guy was always sweet with me earlier. But suddenly he blocked me on WhatsApp one day and for three months it went on like that. I am literally crying myself out thinking what wrong I have done. He had a crush on me earlier. But after he talking to me for some days, I was blocked from his WhatsApp. Then after 3 months, I called him to know the reason for his block so that I can get a closure. He spoke with me very sweetly. I got doubt, whether it was him only who blocked me or someone else. So that day he told me not to worry, assured that everything is ok, and I didn't yet ask him about his block but he told me that he's very busy and he'll call me back the next day. So, after this happened, I didn't waited for him to call me back, and I myself returned him the call the next day, and his brother spoke to me. He was very harsh like who are you? I told him my name and that I need to talk to this virgo man. He rudely responded and cutted the call. After that I thought he'll call me back. But he didn't. I only called him but my calls weren't being lifted.. I messaged, they weren't being responded! I got doubt whether something happened since his brother spoke to me, I reached out his bestie and asked him why he is doing like this. His bestie said, his phone was taken off by his bro and his father. They are not letting him use it. So, after this I was worried, and I called him many times and messaged him asking about truths, but no response and got blocked everywhere, on WhatsApp, calls, text messaging. So, I was absolutely afraid of what's happening and asked his mutual friend to ask him how things are. His mutual friend was afraid of his father so he told me he couldn't help me due to fear. He cutted off contact with me in fears that his father will scold his mutual friend. After that I only take risk of calling him through other ways, and his brother lifted the call and started scolding me very harshly and asked me what's going on between us. I was afraid and told him that we're just friends but his brother is not trusting my words. So I asked him to let me speak with this virgo man, and he gave him under his supervision. This virgo man said me that his brother was very very angry on him and was scolding him a lot about my calls and messages. He told me not to call to that number since his brother is using it. His brother was very harshly scolding him while we were expressing our concerns. He told me that he'll talk to me afterwards. I said ok and cutted the call. I received a message that never call me or message me. I got angry and scolded him as much as I want in message and I scolded him in every possible way. I didn't get a reply. My messages were not seen. I didn't message him for a few days and left him alone. I again messaged him yesterday telling him that I hate him a lot and I got a reply that go and get a life. I don't know who replied that. I was guessing it's him, and started expressing him my feelings about love. And I got a response, i will block you now, be careful! I was like shocked. Any boy will usually welcome a girl's proposal. But this boy I know he cares, but I don't know why I got a reply like this harshly for the first time. He was never this harshly responded me earlier. I'm getting doubt whether someone else replied me ( his brother or father ) or him only. What do you think? And what should I do now? I knew he loved me once, and I was showing him my love feelings for the first time yesterday, and didn't even propose him fully saying I love you. I was just giving him signs through my messages and I received a harsh response. Who might have done it? Him? Or his brother? Or his father? How should I know things from him now?

You sound annoying as treetrunk. If he blocked you, you should've taken the big ass L and moved on instead of causing drama with his entire family.

Why do I sound annoying? Why don't my love appear in my actions?

Because you're pushing the issue enough to get his family annoyed with you. From what you described, you guys weren't officially a couple so for this to happen is unreasonable. Besides, if his family is getting involved, that's a big sign you need to separate yourself from him. Trust me. When I cut off my last ex, he tried every way to communicate with me but I'd blocked him on everything, and he got my family involved and begged them to pass along messages from him to me like a treetrunking loser. My dad lost his butter with my ex at that point and I'm just tired of the whole thing. When family gets involved, it's never a situation you want to stay in.

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I would never cut off if I had someone doing the same for me like your ex did to you. I don't think he is a loser, because I'm feeling he may have loved you truly, so he crossed his self respect for you and risked himself by trying to pass you messages through your family. It just shows how much love he had for you, and he didn't wanted to lose you, so he kept down all his ego to get you back, because he truly loved you. In my case, who are his family to break our love? Why are they not letting us contact with each other? They don't have any right to break us apart. If he loves me, and if he still wants to be with me, I'm ready to fight with anyone just to be with him

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So, this virgo guy was always sweet with me earlier. But suddenly he blocked me on WhatsApp one day and for three months it went on like that. I am literally crying myself out thinking what wrong I have done. He had a crush on me earlier. But after he talking to me for some days, I was blocked from his WhatsApp. Then after 3 months, I called him to know the reason for his block so that I can get a closure. He spoke with me very sweetly. I got doubt, whether it was him only who blocked me or someone else. So that day he told me not to worry, assured that everything is ok, and I didn't yet ask him about his block but he told me that he's very busy and he'll call me back the next day. So, after this happened, I didn't waited for him to call me back, and I myself returned him the call the next day, and his brother spoke to me. He was very harsh like who are you? I told him my name and that I need to talk to this virgo man. He rudely responded and cutted the call. After that I thought he'll call me back. But he didn't. I only called him but my calls weren't being lifted.. I messaged, they weren't being responded! I got doubt whether something happened since his brother spoke to me, I reached out his bestie and asked him why he is doing like this. His bestie said, his phone was taken off by his bro and his father. They are not letting him use it. So, after this I was worried, and I called him many times and messaged him asking about truths, but no response and got blocked everywhere, on WhatsApp, calls, text messaging. So, I was absolutely afraid of what's happening and asked his mutual friend to ask him how things are. His mutual friend was afraid of his father so he told me he couldn't help me due to fear. He cutted off contact with me in fears that his father will scold his mutual friend. After that I only take risk of calling him through other ways, and his brother lifted the call and started scolding me very harshly and asked me what's going on between us. I was afraid and told him that we're just friends but his brother is not trusting my words. So I asked him to let me speak with this virgo man, and he gave him under his supervision. This virgo man said me that his brother was very very angry on him and was scolding him a lot about my calls and messages. He told me not to call to that number since his brother is using it. His brother was very harshly scolding him while we were expressing our concerns. He told me that he'll talk to me afterwards. I said ok and cutted the call. I received a message that never call me or message me. I got angry and scolded him as much as I want in message and I scolded him in every possible way. I didn't get a reply. My messages were not seen. I didn't message him for a few days and left him alone. I again messaged him yesterday telling him that I hate him a lot and I got a reply that go and get a life. I don't know who replied that. I was guessing it's him, and started expressing him my feelings about love. And I got a response, i will block you now, be careful! I was like shocked. Any boy will usually welcome a girl's proposal. But this boy I know he cares, but I don't know why I got a reply like this harshly for the first time. He was never this harshly responded me earlier. I'm getting doubt whether someone else replied me ( his brother or father ) or him only. What do you think? And what should I do now? I knew he loved me once, and I was showing him my love feelings for the first time yesterday, and didn't even propose him fully saying I love you. I was just giving him signs through my messages and I received a harsh response. Who might have done it? Him? Or his brother? Or his father? How should I know things from him now?

You sound annoying as treetrunk. If he blocked you, you should've taken the big ass L and moved on instead of causing drama with his entire family.

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Why do I sound annoying? Why don't my love appear in my actions?

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So, this virgo guy was always sweet with me earlier. But suddenly he blocked me on WhatsApp one day and for three months it went on like that. I am literally crying myself out thinking what wrong I have done. He had a crush on me earlier. But after he talking to me for some days, I was blocked from his WhatsApp. Then after 3 months, I called him to know the reason for his block so that I can get a closure. He spoke with me very sweetly. I got doubt, whether it was him only who blocked me or someone else. So that day he told me not to worry, assured that everything is ok, and I didn't yet ask him about his block but he told me that he's very busy and he'll call me back the next day. So, after this happened, I didn't waited for him to call me back, and I myself returned him the call the next day, and his brother spoke to me. He was very harsh like who are you? I told him my name and that I need to talk to this virgo man. He rudely responded and cutted the call. After that I thought he'll call me back. But he didn't. I only called him but my calls weren't being lifted.. I messaged, they weren't being responded! I got doubt whether something happened since his brother spoke to me, I reached out his bestie and asked him why he is doing like this. His bestie said, his phone was taken off by his bro and his father. They are not letting him use it. So, after this I was worried, and I called him many times and messaged him asking about truths, but no response and got blocked everywhere, on WhatsApp, calls, text messaging. So, I was absolutely afraid of what's happening and asked his mutual friend to ask him how things are. His mutual friend was afraid of his father so he told me he couldn't help me due to fear. He cutted off contact with me in fears that his father will scold his mutual friend. After that I only take risk of calling him through other ways, and his brother lifted the call and started scolding me very harshly and asked me what's going on between us. I was afraid and told him that we're just friends but his brother is not trusting my words. So I asked him to let me speak with this virgo man, and he gave him under his supervision. This virgo man said me that his brother was very very angry on him and was scolding him a lot about my calls and messages. He told me not to call to that number since his brother is using it. His brother was very harshly scolding him while we were expressing our concerns. He told me that he'll talk to me afterwards. I said ok and cutted the call. I received a message that never call me or message me. I got angry and scolded him as much as I want in message and I scolded him in every possible way. I didn't get a reply. My messages were not seen. I didn't message him for a few days and left him alone. I again messaged him yesterday telling him that I hate him a lot and I got a reply that go and get a life. I don't know who replied that. I was guessing it's him, and started expressing him my feelings about love. And I got a response, i will block you now, be careful! I was like shocked. Any boy will usually welcome a girl's proposal. But this boy I know he cares, but I don't know why I got a reply like this harshly for the first time. He was never this harshly responded me earlier. I'm getting doubt whether someone else replied me ( his brother or father ) or him only. What do you think? And what should I do now? I knew he loved me once, and I was showing him my love feelings for the first time yesterday, and didn't even propose him fully saying I love you. I was just giving him signs through my messages and I received a harsh response. Who might have done it? Him? Or his brother? Or his father? How should I know things from him now?

You sound annoying as treetrunk. If he blocked you, you should've taken the big ass L and moved on instead of causing drama with his entire family.

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maybe his brother blocked me, I know how much he loves me and I don't think so it was him who blocked me

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Here's the thing. You need to get how sweet he was handling you in the past, out of your head. Virgo is a mutable sign. He has 2 or maybe more sides of him that you havent seen. You have only seen 1 side of him last year.

That's why I laughed when you said the pisces man was sweet etc, pisces is a mutable sign too. You havent seen his other sides as well.

You really need to look for other signs than mutables. We will drive you crazy because you can not adapt to our ever changing natures. But the phone now is not with him I guess. Or else he would have clear things out instead of being rudely and meaninglessly replying to my msgs
Wrong. He sees you as a trouble now. You got him into trouble with his family. In his head it is better to avoid you. Virgo arent the most communicative sign. You have to look at their actions instead of their words.

Right now he is enjoying his peace and judging by his actions, he would like to keep it that way.

I dont see him reaching out to you, unless you are capable to prove to him you will not cause him anymore trouble. Virgo is an earth sign. Although they like drama sometimes but these type of drama that jeopardizes his security, livelihood and family is too much for him.I was just mentioning that I hated the way his brother spoke with me and scolded me, and I got a very harsh response, in fact proving that his brother maybe..
Wrong again. You attacked his brother of course he will defend him. That is him talking, not his brother.

I dont care if you think he shouldve defended you instead etc. He has his own emotions and priority, get it? It's not just about you and your emotions.

Right now, you're not his priority. His family is. He would rather lose you than his family. And that is HIS RIGHTS. You cant control what he wants. You can only control yourself.He will not even allow him any secret ways and he will take precautions to not allow him any privacy
Wrong again. You are under estimating a virgo's intelligence and sneakiness. Virgo is one of the smartest sign. If he wants to be discreet or seek loopholes, he can.

Seeing that he doesnt do it with you, it means he has no desire of being in contact with you.

Involving a mutual friend will only piss him off even more.

Wait for 1 more week or, 1 month is better. And then message him. You're a cancer, you know how to message people eventhough they've blocked you so use your cancer's way.

Btw, do me a favor and read this 2 or 3 times before replying. I hate repeating the same answer.

I do understand that you moved with virgos since a long time, but I have one doubt.. A virgo man never lies as per astrology. But my virgo man is lying a lot. He told his brother that he don't know me. So, if there is a thing called, lying which is out of dictionary for a virgo, my virgo man can also be loving and caring and may also love my desparate nature for him? Maybe he loves my clinginess. Who knows? Maybe situations are very tight on his side. I shouldn't assume before I know the truth right? Why not try getting the truth before I come to a conclusion of moving on? Either ways, I will be having my answer. But if lucky, I may get a beautiful relationship opened by him! Who knows what's on the other side of my hardest situation? There's a saying that 'There is always a blessing in disguise"...So, Why can't this get true for me?

A virgo, never lie?

Idk who and what is your astro sources but I do know this.... They lie A LOT.

Especially in an environment where it is limiting or feel not accepted. In your case, knowing a relationship with you isnt accepted in the family, so he lied.

They dont like confrontations, it's better to lie than to argue.

And they're pretty good liars too. Creating new lies to cover the past lie. Very quick on their feet

They even teach and help me build my lies lol lol 🤣

You are clearly under estimating their intelligence and sneakiness.

You need to study a lot more. Virgo are notorious for living a double life. Google it, virgo double life. You'll be surprised. And because they analyze and over think everything, they're squeaky clean and rarely leave a trace

I love Virgo, it's one of the sign I get along wih the most... but they're not an angel that you think

@Sagoxa So, should I give up now? I'm seeing failing efforts from him and I don't think he is as much as concerned like me! I'm feeling like giving up! Whomever it is, either it's his brother who broke us or family, I'm not feeling him fight for me! So should I give up and find someone else?

Never Give up! I think he loves you he's just too shy to admit it
Send him a text every minute of the day
That will show him how much he means to you
Ring him constantly
Maybe you could wait for him outside his house?
You're not trying hard enough imo how is he supposed to know you care when you are so nonchalant and seemingly uninterested in him?

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If you want to move on, you can do it with this person. He has a cancer moon. You two will be great together

Lol, I actually do quite like her crazy cancer vibe but I'll pass 😅

What

Have you ever dealt with one?

I like crazy people, I can relate 😅
My favourite female singer is Courtney Love because she's an emotional mess psycho

😅😅😅

Deal with one first.. and then we'll talk

Ok I'll go find one. Then prove you wrong

Please find one with a leo moon too.. so, cancer sun and leo moon hahaha you'll get your dose of crazy 🤪🤣

@saggurl88 and I will create a cancer moon support group once you're done 🤣🤣

Is being emotional wrong? My past pisces man made me too emotional girl due to his 24×7 attention. But this virgo man considering emotional nature as drama! And being dramatic. Why so? But when I use to move the same way with pisces man he used to love it a lot, but why not virgo? Are virgos emotionless? Are virgos hard to deal with? Are virgos heartless?

People are different. You cant paint everybody with a single stroke. That's generalization.

What works with the pisces might not work with everyone.

You can see from the number of people in here that says you're crazy. That alone should tell you that not everybody likes this type of behaviour. Regardless of their sign.

I see sagittarius, gemini, virgo,aries,pisces,scorpio,libra etc calling you crazy and full of drama in here.

So if anyone who is not on the same boat as you, you consider heartless, I guess every sign is heartless in your dictionary

Being emotional and being a selfish emotional wreck is 2 totally different thing.

I hate to break this to you but the world doesnt revolve around your feelings.

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It's not that I'm selfish for my feelings. But this virgo man is the one who started to let me get into feelings last year. Due to a small misunderstanding, I hurted him a lot, and he completely disappeared from my life. So, I really regretted the way I treated him, so I searched for him for 1 year hardly and finally found him. He was very happy to see me back after a long time and he even expressed that he was so happy talking to me after 1 year. I was too very happy to see him happy and fell for him even more. It was like 8-9 days of dating, and I actually ignored him sometimes during the dating process when he was giving me 24×7 attention. One fine day, I got blocked from his number. I don't know who did it. Maybe his brother, family or him. I was seriously crying daily for about 3 months daily but still I wasn't unblocked. I finally wanted to get my closure so I called him, but when he lifted the call, he was very happy to hear my voice and spoke with me in a very affectionate manner, but since he was very affectionate with me I didn't ask him closure. He then told me that he will talk to me next day. Next day I hurriedly called him without letting him call me. But his family lifted the call and harshly scolded me. Don't know how things went on after that, my calls, msgs were completely being ignored, and one fine day his brother lifted the call and started to give me warnings. Things went to this point. I didn't wanted to lose him, so I myself kept a lot of efforts for him. But I'm seeing failing efforts from him and still don't know if he is struggling to get back with me or gave up on me completely. I didn't wanted to give up, so I didn't wanted to let him go. Now, what do u say?
Is it wrong to have emotions which are firstly started by him?

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I absolutely hate virgo. Pisces man, or a leo, they are best! 😍❤️

Leo men are not the best, they do this narcissistic stuff all the time too lol. And Pisces men are notorious for being philanderers and flipping the script lol.

Guess it just goes to show you everyone’s experience is different and we can’t go by the textbook definition.

yeah I agree with u.. but the pisces man and leo man whom I have seen were extremely sweet with me, and never treated me wrong. Leo man kind of narcissistic only but the quality I love in them is they're loyal. They're loyal to a fault. And pisces man are the one who gives us endless second chances and understands our emotions in a way no one else can. These both people put their love's happiness first, and adjust themselves to be with them is what I love about them. I absolutely hate virgo. Because whenever we get emotional, they will try to runaway, they don't actually care about their love's emotions more than theirs. They're kind of selfish. Especially if they broke up in the past, in case even if they try to get back, this virgo plays a lot, and he doesn't even appreciate emotional nature of his love. All he cares about is himself only. They won't even like to give second chances, and even if they wanna give, their love should be on his own terms only but not his gf's terms, which is absolutely a selfish and uncaring and toxic thing, which can be considered as a narcissistic thing

These Virgo guys are quite the manipulative type. Like, everything - it's on THEIR terms, they don't care about anyone else apart from themselves! This Virgo I am talking about, all he every kept talking about was wanting his own needs met, never once reflected on mine! Ugh . .they're toxic!

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yeah! Absolutely... Staying away from them would be the best...

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I absolutely hate virgo. Pisces man, or a leo, they are best! 😍❤️

Leo men are not the best, they do this narcissistic stuff all the time too lol. And Pisces men are notorious for being philanderers and flipping the script lol.

Guess it just goes to show you everyone’s experience is different and we can’t go by the textbook definition.

yeah I agree with u.. but the pisces man and leo man whom I have seen were extremely sweet with me, and never treated me wrong. Leo man kind of narcissistic only but the quality I love in them is they're loyal. They're loyal to a fault. And pisces man are the one who gives us endless second chances and understands our emotions in a way no one else can. These both people put their love's happiness first, and adjust themselves to be with them is what I love about them. I absolutely hate virgo. Because whenever we get emotional, they will try to runaway, they don't actually care about their love's emotions more than theirs. They're kind of selfish. Especially if they broke up in the past, in case even if they try to get back, this virgo plays a lot, and he doesn't even appreciate emotional nature of his love. All he cares about is himself only. They won't even like to give second chances, and even if they wanna give, their love should be on his own terms only but not his gf's terms, which is absolutely a selfish and uncaring and toxic thing, which can be considered as a narcissistic thing

It’s so funny, cuz I’m a Pisces and my one and only experience with a Leo male was horrifying. They were the textbook definition of a narcissist and weren’t loyal either, everything was about what they could get out of you, and how it benefited them. They replaced people like they were air fresheners, once the novelty of the scent wore out, time for a replacement!

I’ve never tried to date a Pisces male, but I never hear good things about Pisces men, so that’s where my laughter came from. But again, it’s funny because I quite like Virgo males. To me they can be very romantic, reliable and very thoughtful and considerate. They do the hot and cold thing, as you said, but in my experience, it’s only during the early stages when they’re unsure still whether their feelings are reciprocated. They weren’t the type to run hot and cold on someone just to play games and get an ego boost—like say a Leo. And then once they knew for sure the feelings were mutual, they were very romantic and stable. Honestly, one of the more peaceful connections for me.

But I hear you, we all have the ones we vibe with the best.

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yeah.. I agree with you according to your experiences! Everyone of us have different experiences and for me, the virgo I had in my life was really like a heartless person without any caring about my feelings. He is intentionally doing all emotional damage to me knowing that it's hurting me. I feel he might be taking revenge on me. I am feeling he is so rude person. I was always nice to him. I never made him feel wrong about himself but he is going out of his way to damage me a lot emotionally. He is totally an uncaring person. And I don't even think that he stays loyal, because whenever I start to feel emotional connection with him, he left me as if I don't exist. When I said him what was hurting me the most, he is even more trying to hurt me and break me in a way I can't even imagine. He is harsh. Not at all considerate in my opinion. He was taking my past revenge on me and making me feel very bad about myself and not even caring to understand how deep that hurt will go. He's not so good person. He left me when I needed him. But my leo man, never did these things to hurt me anytime. He was loyal to me. And pisces man too was very kind, sweet, understanding, cool, loving, loyal and all the best qualities within him. Compared to these both Pisces and Leo, I still don't feel a virgo man could be better for me, because I already dealt with a one... Pisces or leo only would be better for me as a cancer girl, because they usually understand my emotional nature in a way a virgo can't..

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I absolutely hate virgo. Pisces man, or a leo, they are best! 😍❤️

Leo men are not the best, they do this narcissistic stuff all the time too lol. And Pisces men are notorious for being philanderers and flipping the script lol.

Guess it just goes to show you everyone’s experience is different and we can’t go by the textbook definition.

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yeah I agree with u.. but the pisces man and leo man whom I have seen were extremely sweet with me, and never treated me wrong. Leo man kind of narcissistic only but the quality I love in them is they're loyal. They're loyal to a fault. And pisces man are the one who gives us endless second chances and understands our emotions in a way no one else can. These both people put their love's happiness first, and adjust themselves to be with them is what I love about them. I absolutely hate virgo. Because whenever we get emotional, they will try to runaway, they don't actually care about their love's emotions more than theirs. They're kind of selfish. Especially if they broke up in the past, in case even if they try to get back, this virgo plays a lot, and he doesn't even appreciate emotional nature of his love. All he cares about is himself only. They won't even like to give second chances, and even if they wanna give, their love should be on his own terms only but not his gf's terms, which is absolutely a selfish and uncaring and toxic thing, which can be considered as a narcissistic thing

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Here's the thing. You need to get how sweet he was handling you in the past, out of your head. Virgo is a mutable sign. He has 2 or maybe more sides of him that you havent seen. You have only seen 1 side of him last year.

That's why I laughed when you said the pisces man was sweet etc, pisces is a mutable sign too. You havent seen his other sides as well.

You really need to look for other signs than mutables. We will drive you crazy because you can not adapt to our ever changing natures. But the phone now is not with him I guess. Or else he would have clear things out instead of being rudely and meaninglessly replying to my msgs
Wrong. He sees you as a trouble now. You got him into trouble with his family. In his head it is better to avoid you. Virgo arent the most communicative sign. You have to look at their actions instead of their words.

Right now he is enjoying his peace and judging by his actions, he would like to keep it that way.

I dont see him reaching out to you, unless you are capable to prove to him you will not cause him anymore trouble. Virgo is an earth sign. Although they like drama sometimes but these type of drama that jeopardizes his security, livelihood and family is too much for him.I was just mentioning that I hated the way his brother spoke with me and scolded me, and I got a very harsh response, in fact proving that his brother maybe..
Wrong again. You attacked his brother of course he will defend him. That is him talking, not his brother.

I dont care if you think he shouldve defended you instead etc. He has his own emotions and priority, get it? It's not just about you and your emotions.

Right now, you're not his priority. His family is. He would rather lose you than his family. And that is HIS RIGHTS. You cant control what he wants. You can only control yourself.He will not even allow him any secret ways and he will take precautions to not allow him any privacy
Wrong again. You are under estimating a virgo's intelligence and sneakiness. Virgo is one of the smartest sign. If he wants to be discreet or seek loopholes, he can.

Seeing that he doesnt do it with you, it means he has no desire of being in contact with you.

Involving a mutual friend will only piss him off even more.

Wait for 1 more week or, 1 month is better. And then message him. You're a cancer, you know how to message people eventhough they've blocked you so use your cancer's way.

Btw, do me a favor and read this 2 or 3 times before replying. I hate repeating the same answer.

I do understand that you moved with virgos since a long time, but I have one doubt.. A virgo man never lies as per astrology. But my virgo man is lying a lot. He told his brother that he don't know me. So, if there is a thing called, lying which is out of dictionary for a virgo, my virgo man can also be loving and caring and may also love my desparate nature for him? Maybe he loves my clinginess. Who knows? Maybe situations are very tight on his side. I shouldn't assume before I know the truth right? Why not try getting the truth before I come to a conclusion of moving on? Either ways, I will be having my answer. But if lucky, I may get a beautiful relationship opened by him! Who knows what's on the other side of my hardest situation? There's a saying that 'There is always a blessing in disguise"...So, Why can't this get true for me?

A virgo, never lie?

Idk who and what is your astro sources but I do know this.... They lie A LOT.

Especially in an environment where it is limiting or feel not accepted. In your case, knowing a relationship with you isnt accepted in the family, so he lied.

They dont like confrontations, it's better to lie than to argue.

And they're pretty good liars too. Creating new lies to cover the past lie. Very quick on their feet

They even teach and help me build my lies lol lol 🤣

You are clearly under estimating their intelligence and sneakiness.

You need to study a lot more. Virgo are notorious for living a double life. Google it, virgo double life. You'll be surprised. And because they analyze and over think everything, they're squeaky clean and rarely leave a trace

I love Virgo, it's one of the sign I get along wih the most... but they're not an angel that you think

@Sagoxa So, should I give up now? I'm seeing failing efforts from him and I don't think he is as much as concerned like me! I'm feeling like giving up! Whomever it is, either it's his brother who broke us or family, I'm not feeling him fight for me! So should I give up and find someone else?

Never Give up! I think he loves you he's just too shy to admit it
Send him a text every minute of the day
That will show him how much he means to you
Ring him constantly
Maybe you could wait for him outside his house?
You're not trying hard enough imo how is he supposed to know you care when you are so nonchalant and seemingly uninterested in him?

@smiley_smiles

If you want to move on, you can do it with this person. He has a cancer moon. You two will be great together

Lol, I actually do quite like her crazy cancer vibe but I'll pass 😅

What

Have you ever dealt with one?

I like crazy people, I can relate 😅
My favourite female singer is Courtney Love because she's an emotional mess psycho

😅😅😅

Deal with one first.. and then we'll talk

Ok I'll go find one. Then prove you wrong

Please find one with a leo moon too.. so, cancer sun and leo moon hahaha you'll get your dose of crazy 🤪🤣

@saggurl88 and I will create a cancer moon support group once you're done 🤣🤣

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Is being emotional wrong? My past pisces man made me too emotional girl due to his 24×7 attention. But this virgo man considering emotional nature as drama! And being dramatic. Why so? But when I use to move the same way with pisces man he used to love it a lot, but why not virgo? Are virgos emotionless? Are virgos hard to deal with? Are virgos heartless?

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Wrongful convictions? Yes
Guilty ? Never

same

I am a vegan. I gone vegan

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with this situation?

my friend found herself immediately in another romantic relationship after what turned out to be a very toxic relationship in the end.

she openly talks about her emotional attachment to the past and her new boyfriend suspects that she's secretly making' repairs' with her ex. but he just tells her to end it and is confident she'll forget about him.

he regularly checks her social media, posts about her, makes collages of their pics together, send her songs, often visits her even though they live far away from each other. but she's... just kinda there, does nothing while he makes all the effort. this girl's definitely a crap gf. their dates usually just drinking and singing in Karaoke places. that's the most effort she's shown in the relationship.

they went to the same uni, work for similar businesses, had very similar relationship traumas and even grew up around the same places. like they seem so compatible but she finds herself emotionally distant? yet how can a guy be full of understanding like that?

here are his placements:

him: pisces sun, cap moon, pisces Venus, taurus mars

(my friend is a virgo btw)

he is such a very good person, and I absolutely appreciate that. But for her, she needs some healing. Like, she should get some meditation, and should go for some walk, and completely should cut off contacts with ex, pics, whatever it reminds her of him like should move out to a new place ( suggested ). It might take some of the time, but it should be done effectively like not letting her get into touch with her ex. No matter how harsh it may seem, since she is in relationship with this virgo now, she should start letting go of her ex, it might not be an immediate change, but should be done in a continual and effective manner, by creating new memories with this virgo man. She should get emotional support from this virgo man first, to get emotionally connected. Like, he should let her talk about her emotions openly without judging but understanding. Understanding her, and moving according to that and involving himself according to that, so that she can feel safe around him and can connect with him emotionally without any fear. Since, her ex was already before him, old memories can only be faded away with new memories. So she needs to understand this, and this virgo man also needs to understand this, and start creating new memories, forgetting old. Time cures all the pain

oh no the female is virgo

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Whatever the zodiac is, this can be applied to any zodiac and it works as a general solution for anyone in general. So, she needs healing. She needs some healing which should be done by this new bf, to make her forget her ex. If you want to help her, then you need to talk to her new bf about this and tell him all the things I've mentioned in the before post and tell him to do all those, then only she can emotionally connect with him

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with this situation?

my friend found herself immediately in another romantic relationship after what turned out to be a very toxic relationship in the end.

she openly talks about her emotional attachment to the past and her new boyfriend suspects that she's secretly making' repairs' with her ex. but he just tells her to end it and is confident she'll forget about him.

he regularly checks her social media, posts about her, makes collages of their pics together, send her songs, often visits her even though they live far away from each other. but she's... just kinda there, does nothing while he makes all the effort. this girl's definitely a crap gf. their dates usually just drinking and singing in Karaoke places. that's the most effort she's shown in the relationship.

they went to the same uni, work for similar businesses, had very similar relationship traumas and even grew up around the same places. like they seem so compatible but she finds herself emotionally distant? yet how can a guy be full of understanding like that?

here are his placements:

him: pisces sun, cap moon, pisces Venus, taurus mars

(my friend is a virgo btw)

he is such a very good person, and I absolutely appreciate that. But for her, she needs some healing. Like, she should get some meditation, and should go for some walk, and completely should cut off contacts with ex, pics, whatever it reminds her of him like should move out to a new place ( suggested ). It might take some of the time, but it should be done effectively like not letting her get into touch with her ex. No matter how harsh it may seem, since she is in relationship with this virgo now, she should start letting go of her ex, it might not be an immediate change, but should be done in a continual and effective manner, by creating new memories with this virgo man. She should get emotional support from this virgo man first, to get emotionally connected. Like, he should let her talk about her emotions openly without judging but understanding. Understanding her, and moving according to that and involving himself according to that, so that she can feel safe around him and can connect with him emotionally without any fear. Since, her ex was already before him, old memories can only be faded away with new memories. So she needs to understand this, and this virgo man also needs to understand this, and start creating new memories, forgetting old. Time cures all the pain

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Here's the thing. You need to get how sweet he was handling you in the past, out of your head. Virgo is a mutable sign. He has 2 or maybe more sides of him that you havent seen. You have only seen 1 side of him last year.

That's why I laughed when you said the pisces man was sweet etc, pisces is a mutable sign too. You havent seen his other sides as well.

You really need to look for other signs than mutables. We will drive you crazy because you can not adapt to our ever changing natures. But the phone now is not with him I guess. Or else he would have clear things out instead of being rudely and meaninglessly replying to my msgs
Wrong. He sees you as a trouble now. You got him into trouble with his family. In his head it is better to avoid you. Virgo arent the most communicative sign. You have to look at their actions instead of their words.

Right now he is enjoying his peace and judging by his actions, he would like to keep it that way.

I dont see him reaching out to you, unless you are capable to prove to him you will not cause him anymore trouble. Virgo is an earth sign. Although they like drama sometimes but these type of drama that jeopardizes his security, livelihood and family is too much for him.I was just mentioning that I hated the way his brother spoke with me and scolded me, and I got a very harsh response, in fact proving that his brother maybe..
Wrong again. You attacked his brother of course he will defend him. That is him talking, not his brother.

I dont care if you think he shouldve defended you instead etc. He has his own emotions and priority, get it? It's not just about you and your emotions.

Right now, you're not his priority. His family is. He would rather lose you than his family. And that is HIS RIGHTS. You cant control what he wants. You can only control yourself.He will not even allow him any secret ways and he will take precautions to not allow him any privacy
Wrong again. You are under estimating a virgo's intelligence and sneakiness. Virgo is one of the smartest sign. If he wants to be discreet or seek loopholes, he can.

Seeing that he doesnt do it with you, it means he has no desire of being in contact with you.

Involving a mutual friend will only piss him off even more.

Wait for 1 more week or, 1 month is better. And then message him. You're a cancer, you know how to message people eventhough they've blocked you so use your cancer's way.

Btw, do me a favor and read this 2 or 3 times before replying. I hate repeating the same answer.

I do understand that you moved with virgos since a long time, but I have one doubt.. A virgo man never lies as per astrology. But my virgo man is lying a lot. He told his brother that he don't know me. So, if there is a thing called, lying which is out of dictionary for a virgo, my virgo man can also be loving and caring and may also love my desparate nature for him? Maybe he loves my clinginess. Who knows? Maybe situations are very tight on his side. I shouldn't assume before I know the truth right? Why not try getting the truth before I come to a conclusion of moving on? Either ways, I will be having my answer. But if lucky, I may get a beautiful relationship opened by him! Who knows what's on the other side of my hardest situation? There's a saying that 'There is always a blessing in disguise"...So, Why can't this get true for me?

A virgo, never lie?

Idk who and what is your astro sources but I do know this.... They lie A LOT.

Especially in an environment where it is limiting or feel not accepted. In your case, knowing a relationship with you isnt accepted in the family, so he lied.

They dont like confrontations, it's better to lie than to argue.

And they're pretty good liars too. Creating new lies to cover the past lie. Very quick on their feet

They even teach and help me build my lies lol lol 🤣

You are clearly under estimating their intelligence and sneakiness.

You need to study a lot more. Virgo are notorious for living a double life. Google it, virgo double life. You'll be surprised. And because they analyze and over think everything, they're squeaky clean and rarely leave a trace

I love Virgo, it's one of the sign I get along wih the most... but they're not an angel that you think

@Sagoxa So, should I give up now? I'm seeing failing efforts from him and I don't think he is as much as concerned like me! I'm feeling like giving up! Whomever it is, either it's his brother who broke us or family, I'm not feeling him fight for me! So should I give up and find someone else?

Never Give up! I think he loves you he's just too shy to admit it
Send him a text every minute of the day
That will show him how much he means to you
Ring him constantly
Maybe you could wait for him outside his house?
You're not trying hard enough imo how is he supposed to know you care when you are so nonchalant and seemingly uninterested in him?

@smiley_smiles

If you want to move on, you can do it with this person. He has a cancer moon. You two will be great together

Lol, I actually do quite like her crazy cancer vibe but I'll pass 😅

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@Sagoxa you too.... Lol, I'm actually loyal to this virgo man and I never wanna move on from him. Ik he loves me, I love him too❤️

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Here's the thing. You need to get how sweet he was handling you in the past, out of your head. Virgo is a mutable sign. He has 2 or maybe more sides of him that you havent seen. You have only seen 1 side of him last year.
That's why I laughed when you said the pisces man was sweet etc, pisces is a mutable sign too. You havent seen his other sides as well.
You really need to look for other signs than mutables. We will drive you crazy because you can not adapt to our ever changing natures. But the phone now is not with him I guess. Or else he would have clear things out instead of being rudely and meaninglessly replying to my msgs
Wrong. He sees you as a trouble now. You got him into trouble with his family. In his head it is better to avoid you. Virgo arent the most communicative sign. You have to look at their actions instead of their words.
Right now he is enjoying his peace and judging by his actions, he would like to keep it that way.
I dont see him reaching out to you, unless you are capable to prove to him you will not cause him anymore trouble. Virgo is an earth sign. Although they like drama sometimes but these type of drama that jeopardizes his security, livelihood and family is too much for him.I was just mentioning that I hated the way his brother spoke with me and scolded me, and I got a very harsh response, in fact proving that his brother maybe..
Wrong again. You attacked his brother of course he will defend him. That is him talking, not his brother.
I dont care if you think he shouldve defended you instead etc. He has his own emotions and priority, get it? It's not just about you and your emotions.
Right now, you're not his priority. His family is. He would rather lose you than his family. And that is HIS RIGHTS. You cant control what he wants. You can only control yourself.He will not even allow him any secret ways and he will take precautions to not allow him any privacy
Wrong again. You are under estimating a virgo's intelligence and sneakiness. Virgo is one of the smartest sign. If he wants to be discreet or seek loopholes, he can.
Seeing that he doesnt do it with you, it means he has no desire of being in contact with you.
Involving a mutual friend will only piss him off even more.
Wait for 1 more week or, 1 month is better. And then message him. You're a cancer, you know how to message people eventhough they've blocked you so use your cancer's way.
Btw, do me a favor and read this 2 or 3 times before replying. I hate repeating the same answer.

I do understand that you moved with virgos since a long time, but I have one doubt.. A virgo man never lies as per astrology. But my virgo man is lying a lot. He told his brother that he don't know me. So, if there is a thing called, lying which is out of dictionary for a virgo, my virgo man can also be loving and caring and may also love my desparate nature for him? Maybe he loves my clinginess. Who knows? Maybe situations are very tight on his side. I shouldn't assume before I know the truth right? Why not try getting the truth before I come to a conclusion of moving on? Either ways, I will be having my answer. But if lucky, I may get a beautiful relationship opened by him! Who knows what's on the other side of my hardest situation? There's a saying that 'There is always a blessing in disguise"...So, Why can't this get true for me?

A virgo, never lie?
Idk who and what is your astro sources but I do know this.... They lie A LOT.
Especially in an environment where it is limiting or feel not accepted. In your case, knowing a relationship with you isnt accepted in the family, so he lied.
They dont like confrontations, it's better to lie than to argue.
And they're pretty good liars too. Creating new lies to cover the past lie. Very quick on their feet
They even teach and help me build my lies lol lol 🤣
You are clearly under estimating their intelligence and sneakiness.
You need to study a lot more. Virgo are notorious for living a double life. Google it, virgo double life. You'll be surprised. And because they analyze and over think everything, they're squeaky clean and rarely leave a trace
I love Virgo, it's one of the sign I get along wih the most... but they're not an angel that you think

@Sagoxa So, should I give up now? I'm seeing failing efforts from him and I don't think he is as much as concerned like me! I'm feeling like giving up! Whomever it is, either it's his brother who broke us or family, I'm not feeling him fight for me! So should I give up and find someone else?

It is not giving up. It is having self respect.
If you respect yourself and have an ounce of dignity, you will remove yourself from the situation. You dont want to be seen as the desperate crazy girl, dont you?

He did a lot in my past. Why can't I do something for him now? Just wanting to know what happened on his side exactly due to me isn't desperation right? It's my responsibility. When pisces man blocked me too, my sister told me not to ask him and move on. But I didn't listen her. I called him right away and cleared off things! But surprisingly my pisces didn't at all block me intentionally, but his family member did because they don't want us to be together. When I asked him this, he was proposing me and told that he don't want anyone else other than me. And he secured up his phone very tightly from the next time. It was all beautiful and my one small belief on him about his love on me became true and my confidence about he not blocking intentionally before I even asking him gave me the guts to ask him, which in turn turned out beautifully. I guess, this will also become true for my virgo man. He may also take this chance to move things forward with me. 'There's always a blessing in disguise!' I may get my blessing, if situations favour. I don't know how hardly his brother or family is stopping him from not letting him use his phone, maybe they completely taken control of it and maybe his brother is not letting my messages reach to him, because even the last time, when I was messaging him continuously, I suddenly got a call from his brother and he told me that his brother himself is seeing all those messages which I sent him and he is not allowed to talk with me, and he was not even giving him the phone unless I asked him on a purpose, just to know what's going on between us, he gave. He then spoke with me telling how harsh and terrifying his brother was. And told that he will talk to me later. But don't know how things took place after that call. He cutted it while I was listening his brother's scoldings. Maybe he was snatching his phone. I can't know anything unless I get to know truth from him. I know this situation is complicated. I never expressed him my love tho. But, I still want to give him one more last chance, with which things may turn around! I just wanna try! After these many trials from me which failed due to his situations, one last try won't hurt! I feel this is the key to reach my dream! I will try and see! I'm ready to face failure too. It's better to try and fail rather than to not try and regret later! I'm doing this.... I'm just trying to extract the truth from him. This is not even about forcing things, but forcing him to give me a closure and the truth. If I'm lucky and if he feels the same, and if he takes the chance, he may use this chance given by me and may take things to next level! I just wanna give it a try!

Do you keep on asking me questions to hear other people's input, or you do that to convince me to believe in yours, so that I end up agreeing with you?
For the latter, just know that it wont work. Delusion is delusion and I am going to call it like it is. Try it with someone else.

Okay, I'll let you know the truth after trying. Hoping myself to win, as I won my pisces man. Maybe if this also works out with my virgo man, I would be the happiest girl in this word! I'm just not giving up hope! Purely judging based on astrology may not always be true! Because even if I'm a cancer girl, I'm still having some qualities which are not related to my cancer nature! So, if my virgo man really loves me but if he's failing because of unsuretey about my feelings, at least my trial shows him my care and love, and he may get a sign that I love him too, so he may take things forward.

Lol.. with your constant texts and calls to a point you got threatened with a restraining order, you really think he doesnt know how you feel?
And let's not forget the fact that you cried to him pouring your emotions, and you think he is still uncertain about your emotions? 🤣
It is not about feelings anymore. It comes down to the choices: You or his Family.
He chose his family. He'd rather lose you than his family.

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'He chose his family. He'd rather lose than his family.'

I am not feeling that it's his decision. May he is forcefully being made to. I don't believe that he intentionally hurts me according to his previous attitude

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Here's the thing. You need to get how sweet he was handling you in the past, out of your head. Virgo is a mutable sign. He has 2 or maybe more sides of him that you havent seen. You have only seen 1 side of him last year.

That's why I laughed when you said the pisces man was sweet etc, pisces is a mutable sign too. You havent seen his other sides as well.

You really need to look for other signs than mutables. We will drive you crazy because you can not adapt to our ever changing natures. But the phone now is not with him I guess. Or else he would have clear things out instead of being rudely and meaninglessly replying to my msgs
Wrong. He sees you as a trouble now. You got him into trouble with his family. In his head it is better to avoid you. Virgo arent the most communicative sign. You have to look at their actions instead of their words.

Right now he is enjoying his peace and judging by his actions, he would like to keep it that way.

I dont see him reaching out to you, unless you are capable to prove to him you will not cause him anymore trouble. Virgo is an earth sign. Although they like drama sometimes but these type of drama that jeopardizes his security, livelihood and family is too much for him.I was just mentioning that I hated the way his brother spoke with me and scolded me, and I got a very harsh response, in fact proving that his brother maybe..
Wrong again. You attacked his brother of course he will defend him. That is him talking, not his brother.

I dont care if you think he shouldve defended you instead etc. He has his own emotions and priority, get it? It's not just about you and your emotions.

Right now, you're not his priority. His family is. He would rather lose you than his family. And that is HIS RIGHTS. You cant control what he wants. You can only control yourself.He will not even allow him any secret ways and he will take precautions to not allow him any privacy
Wrong again. You are under estimating a virgo's intelligence and sneakiness. Virgo is one of the smartest sign. If he wants to be discreet or seek loopholes, he can.

Seeing that he doesnt do it with you, it means he has no desire of being in contact with you.

Involving a mutual friend will only piss him off even more.

Wait for 1 more week or, 1 month is better. And then message him. You're a cancer, you know how to message people eventhough they've blocked you so use your cancer's way.

Btw, do me a favor and read this 2 or 3 times before replying. I hate repeating the same answer.

I do understand that you moved with virgos since a long time, but I have one doubt.. A virgo man never lies as per astrology. But my virgo man is lying a lot. He told his brother that he don't know me. So, if there is a thing called, lying which is out of dictionary for a virgo, my virgo man can also be loving and caring and may also love my desparate nature for him? Maybe he loves my clinginess. Who knows? Maybe situations are very tight on his side. I shouldn't assume before I know the truth right? Why not try getting the truth before I come to a conclusion of moving on? Either ways, I will be having my answer. But if lucky, I may get a beautiful relationship opened by him! Who knows what's on the other side of my hardest situation? There's a saying that 'There is always a blessing in disguise"...So, Why can't this get true for me?

A virgo, never lie?

Idk who and what is your astro sources but I do know this.... They lie A LOT.

Especially in an environment where it is limiting or feel not accepted. In your case, knowing a relationship with you isnt accepted in the family, so he lied.

They dont like confrontations, it's better to lie than to argue.

And they're pretty good liars too. Creating new lies to cover the past lie. Very quick on their feet

They even teach and help me build my lies lol lol 🤣

You are clearly under estimating their intelligence and sneakiness.

You need to study a lot more. Virgo are notorious for living a double life. Google it, virgo double life. You'll be surprised. And because they analyze and over think everything, they're squeaky clean and rarely leave a trace

I love Virgo, it's one of the sign I get along wih the most... but they're not an angel that you think

@Sagoxa So, should I give up now? I'm seeing failing efforts from him and I don't think he is as much as concerned like me! I'm feeling like giving up! Whomever it is, either it's his brother who broke us or family, I'm not feeling him fight for me! So should I give up and find someone else?

It is not giving up. It is having self respect.

If you respect yourself and have an ounce of dignity, you will remove yourself from the situation. You dont want to be seen as the desperate crazy girl, dont you?

He did a lot in my past. Why can't I do something for him now? Just wanting to know what happened on his side exactly due to me isn't desperation right? It's my responsibility. When pisces man blocked me too, my sister told me not to ask him and move on. But I didn't listen her. I called him right away and cleared off things! But surprisingly my pisces didn't at all block me intentionally, but his family member did because they don't want us to be together. When I asked him this, he was proposing me and told that he don't want anyone else other than me. And he secured up his phone very tightly from the next time. It was all beautiful and my one small belief on him about his love on me became true and my confidence about he not blocking intentionally before I even asking him gave me the guts to ask him, which in turn turned out beautifully. I guess, this will also become true for my virgo man. He may also take this chance to move things forward with me. 'There's always a blessing in disguise!' I may get my blessing, if situations favour. I don't know how hardly his brother or family is stopping him from not letting him use his phone, maybe they completely taken control of it and maybe his brother is not letting my messages reach to him, because even the last time, when I was messaging him continuously, I suddenly got a call from his brother and he told me that his brother himself is seeing all those messages which I sent him and he is not allowed to talk with me, and he was not even giving him the phone unless I asked him on a purpose, just to know what's going on between us, he gave. He then spoke with me telling how harsh and terrifying his brother was. And told that he will talk to me later. But don't know how things took place after that call. He cutted it while I was listening his brother's scoldings. Maybe he was snatching his phone. I can't know anything unless I get to know truth from him. I know this situation is complicated. I never expressed him my love tho. But, I still want to give him one more last chance, with which things may turn around! I just wanna try! After these many trials from me which failed due to his situations, one last try won't hurt! I feel this is the key to reach my dream! I will try and see! I'm ready to face failure too. It's better to try and fail rather than to not try and regret later! I'm doing this.... I'm just trying to extract the truth from him. This is not even about forcing things, but forcing him to give me a closure and the truth. If I'm lucky and if he feels the same, and if he takes the chance, he may use this chance given by me and may take things to next level! I just wanna give it a try!

Do you keep on asking me questions to hear other people's input, or you do that to convince me to believe in yours, so that I end up agreeing with you?

For the latter, just know that it wont work. Delusion is delusion and I am going to call it like it is. Try it with someone else.

Okay, I'll let you know the truth after trying. Hoping myself to win, as I won my pisces man. Maybe if this also works out with my virgo man, I would be the happiest girl in this word! I'm just not giving up hope! Purely judging based on astrology may not always be true! Because even if I'm a cancer girl, I'm still having some qualities which are not related to my cancer nature! So, if my virgo man really loves me but if he's failing because of unsuretey about my feelings, at least my trial shows him my care and love, and he may get a sign that I love him too, so he may take things forward.

Lol.. with your constant texts and calls to a point you got threatened with a restraining order, you really think he doesnt know how you feel?

And let's not forget the fact that you cried to him pouring your emotions, and you think he is still uncertain about your emotions? 🤣

It is not about feelings anymore. It comes down to the choices: You or his Family.

He chose his family. He'd rather lose you than his family.

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I didn't constantly text him. In a day, upto 3 messages and 1 - 2 missed calls. Isn't that very less? For that only, his brother gave me warning. Isn't that too much?

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Here's the thing. You need to get how sweet he was handling you in the past, out of your head. Virgo is a mutable sign. He has 2 or maybe more sides of him that you havent seen. You have only seen 1 side of him last year.

That's why I laughed when you said the pisces man was sweet etc, pisces is a mutable sign too. You havent seen his other sides as well.

You really need to look for other signs than mutables. We will drive you crazy because you can not adapt to our ever changing natures. But the phone now is not with him I guess. Or else he would have clear things out instead of being rudely and meaninglessly replying to my msgs
Wrong. He sees you as a trouble now. You got him into trouble with his family. In his head it is better to avoid you. Virgo arent the most communicative sign. You have to look at their actions instead of their words.

Right now he is enjoying his peace and judging by his actions, he would like to keep it that way.

I dont see him reaching out to you, unless you are capable to prove to him you will not cause him anymore trouble. Virgo is an earth sign. Although they like drama sometimes but these type of drama that jeopardizes his security, livelihood and family is too much for him.I was just mentioning that I hated the way his brother spoke with me and scolded me, and I got a very harsh response, in fact proving that his brother maybe..
Wrong again. You attacked his brother of course he will defend him. That is him talking, not his brother.

I dont care if you think he shouldve defended you instead etc. He has his own emotions and priority, get it? It's not just about you and your emotions.

Right now, you're not his priority. His family is. He would rather lose you than his family. And that is HIS RIGHTS. You cant control what he wants. You can only control yourself.He will not even allow him any secret ways and he will take precautions to not allow him any privacy
Wrong again. You are under estimating a virgo's intelligence and sneakiness. Virgo is one of the smartest sign. If he wants to be discreet or seek loopholes, he can.

Seeing that he doesnt do it with you, it means he has no desire of being in contact with you.

Involving a mutual friend will only piss him off even more.

Wait for 1 more week or, 1 month is better. And then message him. You're a cancer, you know how to message people eventhough they've blocked you so use your cancer's way.

Btw, do me a favor and read this 2 or 3 times before replying. I hate repeating the same answer.

I do understand that you moved with virgos since a long time, but I have one doubt.. A virgo man never lies as per astrology. But my virgo man is lying a lot. He told his brother that he don't know me. So, if there is a thing called, lying which is out of dictionary for a virgo, my virgo man can also be loving and caring and may also love my desparate nature for him? Maybe he loves my clinginess. Who knows? Maybe situations are very tight on his side. I shouldn't assume before I know the truth right? Why not try getting the truth before I come to a conclusion of moving on? Either ways, I will be having my answer. But if lucky, I may get a beautiful relationship opened by him! Who knows what's on the other side of my hardest situation? There's a saying that 'There is always a blessing in disguise"...So, Why can't this get true for me?

A virgo, never lie?

Idk who and what is your astro sources but I do know this.... They lie A LOT.

Especially in an environment where it is limiting or feel not accepted. In your case, knowing a relationship with you isnt accepted in the family, so he lied.

They dont like confrontations, it's better to lie than to argue.

And they're pretty good liars too. Creating new lies to cover the past lie. Very quick on their feet

They even teach and help me build my lies lol lol 🤣

You are clearly under estimating their intelligence and sneakiness.

You need to study a lot more. Virgo are notorious for living a double life. Google it, virgo double life. You'll be surprised. And because they analyze and over think everything, they're squeaky clean and rarely leave a trace

I love Virgo, it's one of the sign I get along wih the most... but they're not an angel that you think

@Sagoxa So, should I give up now? I'm seeing failing efforts from him and I don't think he is as much as concerned like me! I'm feeling like giving up! Whomever it is, either it's his brother who broke us or family, I'm not feeling him fight for me! So should I give up and find someone else?

It is not giving up. It is having self respect.

If you respect yourself and have an ounce of dignity, you will remove yourself from the situation. You dont want to be seen as the desperate crazy girl, dont you?

He did a lot in my past. Why can't I do something for him now? Just wanting to know what happened on his side exactly due to me isn't desperation right? It's my responsibility. When pisces man blocked me too, my sister told me not to ask him and move on. But I didn't listen her. I called him right away and cleared off things! But surprisingly my pisces didn't at all block me intentionally, but his family member did because they don't want us to be together. When I asked him this, he was proposing me and told that he don't want anyone else other than me. And he secured up his phone very tightly from the next time. It was all beautiful and my one small belief on him about his love on me became true and my confidence about he not blocking intentionally before I even asking him gave me the guts to ask him, which in turn turned out beautifully. I guess, this will also become true for my virgo man. He may also take this chance to move things forward with me. 'There's always a blessing in disguise!' I may get my blessing, if situations favour. I don't know how hardly his brother or family is stopping him from not letting him use his phone, maybe they completely taken control of it and maybe his brother is not letting my messages reach to him, because even the last time, when I was messaging him continuously, I suddenly got a call from his brother and he told me that his brother himself is seeing all those messages which I sent him and he is not allowed to talk with me, and he was not even giving him the phone unless I asked him on a purpose, just to know what's going on between us, he gave. He then spoke with me telling how harsh and terrifying his brother was. And told that he will talk to me later. But don't know how things took place after that call. He cutted it while I was listening his brother's scoldings. Maybe he was snatching his phone. I can't know anything unless I get to know truth from him. I know this situation is complicated. I never expressed him my love tho. But, I still want to give him one more last chance, with which things may turn around! I just wanna try! After these many trials from me which failed due to his situations, one last try won't hurt! I feel this is the key to reach my dream! I will try and see! I'm ready to face failure too. It's better to try and fail rather than to not try and regret later! I'm doing this.... I'm just trying to extract the truth from him. This is not even about forcing things, but forcing him to give me a closure and the truth. If I'm lucky and if he feels the same, and if he takes the chance, he may use this chance given by me and may take things to next level! I just wanna give it a try!

Do you keep on asking me questions to hear other people's input, or you do that to convince me to believe in yours, so that I end up agreeing with you?

For the latter, just know that it wont work. Delusion is delusion and I am going to call it like it is. Try it with someone else.

Okay, I'll let you know the truth after trying. Hoping myself to win, as I won my pisces man. Maybe if this also works out with my virgo man, I would be the happiest girl in this word! I'm just not giving up hope! Purely judging based on astrology may not always be true! Because even if I'm a cancer girl, I'm still having some qualities which are not related to my cancer nature! So, if my virgo man really loves me but if he's failing because of unsuretey about my feelings, at least my trial shows him my care and love, and he may get a sign that I love him too, so he may take things forward.

Lol.. with your constant texts and calls to a point you got threatened with a restraining order, you really think he doesnt know how you feel?

And let's not forget the fact that you cried to him pouring your emotions, and you think he is still uncertain about your emotions? 🤣

It is not about feelings anymore. It comes down to the choices: You or his Family.

He chose his family. He'd rather lose you than his family.

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I was unable to type more lines in the previous reply. Continuing here, I msgd him all emotional stuff and was mentioning how wrongly I was treated by his bro and got this warning of block

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Here's the thing. You need to get how sweet he was handling you in the past, out of your head. Virgo is a mutable sign. He has 2 or maybe more sides of him that you havent seen. You have only seen 1 side of him last year.

That's why I laughed when you said the pisces man was sweet etc, pisces is a mutable sign too. You havent seen his other sides as well.

You really need to look for other signs than mutables. We will drive you crazy because you can not adapt to our ever changing natures. But the phone now is not with him I guess. Or else he would have clear things out instead of being rudely and meaninglessly replying to my msgs
Wrong. He sees you as a trouble now. You got him into trouble with his family. In his head it is better to avoid you. Virgo arent the most communicative sign. You have to look at their actions instead of their words.

Right now he is enjoying his peace and judging by his actions, he would like to keep it that way.

I dont see him reaching out to you, unless you are capable to prove to him you will not cause him anymore trouble. Virgo is an earth sign. Although they like drama sometimes but these type of drama that jeopardizes his security, livelihood and family is too much for him.I was just mentioning that I hated the way his brother spoke with me and scolded me, and I got a very harsh response, in fact proving that his brother maybe..
Wrong again. You attacked his brother of course he will defend him. That is him talking, not his brother.

I dont care if you think he shouldve defended you instead etc. He has his own emotions and priority, get it? It's not just about you and your emotions.

Right now, you're not his priority. His family is. He would rather lose you than his family. And that is HIS RIGHTS. You cant control what he wants. You can only control yourself.He will not even allow him any secret ways and he will take precautions to not allow him any privacy
Wrong again. You are under estimating a virgo's intelligence and sneakiness. Virgo is one of the smartest sign. If he wants to be discreet or seek loopholes, he can.

Seeing that he doesnt do it with you, it means he has no desire of being in contact with you.

Involving a mutual friend will only piss him off even more.

Wait for 1 more week or, 1 month is better. And then message him. You're a cancer, you know how to message people eventhough they've blocked you so use your cancer's way.

Btw, do me a favor and read this 2 or 3 times before replying. I hate repeating the same answer.

I do understand that you moved with virgos since a long time, but I have one doubt.. A virgo man never lies as per astrology. But my virgo man is lying a lot. He told his brother that he don't know me. So, if there is a thing called, lying which is out of dictionary for a virgo, my virgo man can also be loving and caring and may also love my desparate nature for him? Maybe he loves my clinginess. Who knows? Maybe situations are very tight on his side. I shouldn't assume before I know the truth right? Why not try getting the truth before I come to a conclusion of moving on? Either ways, I will be having my answer. But if lucky, I may get a beautiful relationship opened by him! Who knows what's on the other side of my hardest situation? There's a saying that 'There is always a blessing in disguise"...So, Why can't this get true for me?

A virgo, never lie?

Idk who and what is your astro sources but I do know this.... They lie A LOT.

Especially in an environment where it is limiting or feel not accepted. In your case, knowing a relationship with you isnt accepted in the family, so he lied.

They dont like confrontations, it's better to lie than to argue.

And they're pretty good liars too. Creating new lies to cover the past lie. Very quick on their feet

They even teach and help me build my lies lol lol 🤣

You are clearly under estimating their intelligence and sneakiness.

You need to study a lot more. Virgo are notorious for living a double life. Google it, virgo double life. You'll be surprised. And because they analyze and over think everything, they're squeaky clean and rarely leave a trace

I love Virgo, it's one of the sign I get along wih the most... but they're not an angel that you think

@Sagoxa So, should I give up now? I'm seeing failing efforts from him and I don't think he is as much as concerned like me! I'm feeling like giving up! Whomever it is, either it's his brother who broke us or family, I'm not feeling him fight for me! So should I give up and find someone else?

It is not giving up. It is having self respect.

If you respect yourself and have an ounce of dignity, you will remove yourself from the situation. You dont want to be seen as the desperate crazy girl, dont you?

He did a lot in my past. Why can't I do something for him now? Just wanting to know what happened on his side exactly due to me isn't desperation right? It's my responsibility. When pisces man blocked me too, my sister told me not to ask him and move on. But I didn't listen her. I called him right away and cleared off things! But surprisingly my pisces didn't at all block me intentionally, but his family member did because they don't want us to be together. When I asked him this, he was proposing me and told that he don't want anyone else other than me. And he secured up his phone very tightly from the next time. It was all beautiful and my one small belief on him about his love on me became true and my confidence about he not blocking intentionally before I even asking him gave me the guts to ask him, which in turn turned out beautifully. I guess, this will also become true for my virgo man. He may also take this chance to move things forward with me. 'There's always a blessing in disguise!' I may get my blessing, if situations favour. I don't know how hardly his brother or family is stopping him from not letting him use his phone, maybe they completely taken control of it and maybe his brother is not letting my messages reach to him, because even the last time, when I was messaging him continuously, I suddenly got a call from his brother and he told me that his brother himself is seeing all those messages which I sent him and he is not allowed to talk with me, and he was not even giving him the phone unless I asked him on a purpose, just to know what's going on between us, he gave. He then spoke with me telling how harsh and terrifying his brother was. And told that he will talk to me later. But don't know how things took place after that call. He cutted it while I was listening his brother's scoldings. Maybe he was snatching his phone. I can't know anything unless I get to know truth from him. I know this situation is complicated. I never expressed him my love tho. But, I still want to give him one more last chance, with which things may turn around! I just wanna try! After these many trials from me which failed due to his situations, one last try won't hurt! I feel this is the key to reach my dream! I will try and see! I'm ready to face failure too. It's better to try and fail rather than to not try and regret later! I'm doing this.... I'm just trying to extract the truth from him. This is not even about forcing things, but forcing him to give me a closure and the truth. If I'm lucky and if he feels the same, and if he takes the chance, he may use this chance given by me and may take things to next level! I just wanna give it a try!

Do you keep on asking me questions to hear other people's input, or you do that to convince me to believe in yours, so that I end up agreeing with you?

For the latter, just know that it wont work. Delusion is delusion and I am going to call it like it is. Try it with someone else.

Okay, I'll let you know the truth after trying. Hoping myself to win, as I won my pisces man. Maybe if this also works out with my virgo man, I would be the happiest girl in this word! I'm just not giving up hope! Purely judging based on astrology may not always be true! Because even if I'm a cancer girl, I'm still having some qualities which are not related to my cancer nature! So, if my virgo man really loves me but if he's failing because of unsuretey about my feelings, at least my trial shows him my care and love, and he may get a sign that I love him too, so he may take things forward.

Lol.. with your constant texts and calls to a point you got threatened with a restraining order, you really think he doesnt know how you feel?

And let's not forget the fact that you cried to him pouring your emotions, and you think he is still uncertain about your emotions? 🤣

It is not about feelings anymore. It comes down to the choices: You or his Family.

He chose his family. He'd rather lose you than his family.

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i didn't pour yet! 😅 I just friendzoned him due to horrible situations from his family. He still doesn't know how I feel. I just messaged him that I hate myself and all emotional stuff