Marilyn Monroe

LunarMaiden
In honor of Gem season I was going to do a Favorite Gem thread but I've decided she needs a thread of her own.
What do you guys think of her?
Suicide or murder?
Marilyn Monroe




I think she held a magnetism very few actresses posses today.
I also think she was a very intelligent person underneath the sultry image.

According to IMDB:


Her personal library contained over 400 books on topics ranging from art to history, psychology, philosophy, literature, religion, poetry, and gardening. Many of the volumes, auctioned in 1999, bore her pencil notations in the margins.

Although she was an avid buyer of books and owned over 400 of them at her death, third husband Arthur Miller said, "Aside from Colette's Cheri and a few short stories, I had never known her to read anything all the way through. She felt she could get the idea of a book, and often did, in just a few pages.".

Was close friends with singer Ella Fitzgerald and helped her rise in her musical career by arranging for her to sing in many upscale nightclubs some of which were segregated during the time of their friendship.

Read and wrote poetry. Her favorite poets were Walt Whitman and John Keats.

Monroe was a stutterer, a little known fact that was easily covered thanks to studio vocal coaches who provided her with dictation lessons.

Learned to play the guitar for her role in River of No Return (1954) and the ukulele for her role in Some Like It Hot (1959).

Was originally set to play Holly Golightly in Breakfast at Tiffany's (1961), but Audrey Hepburn played the role instead.

Was in consideration for the part of Adelaide in Guys and Dolls (1955), but Vivian Blaine was cast instead.



Whenever I mention Marilyn Monroe's name people tend to call her a just like me.
I actually don't feel comfortable describing her that way.

Here is her last interview, she is very insightful in this interview. Such a sad end to a promising actress.

I think she would have gone on to win an Oscar one day, based on work in Bus Stop and Misfits.
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tiziani
I respect her as unique and an opportunist in her time. That time is over now. And there'll probably never be another one with an image like hers. I do have problems trusting people that say they take after Marilyn Monroe for sure. No rhyme or reason behind that. Just my judgement.
LunarMaiden
Thank you Tiz for responding. I understand what you mean by not trusting anyone created an image after Marilyn Monroe. It's overdone, the market is saturated with clones. It's kind of cartoonish now. I don't even watch films about her, the actress is always never right. Madonna is one of a few modern celebrities who successfully started her career projecting MM's image. Gwen Stephani has an image that is a combination of Madonna and Marilyn. I can't think of any others.
tiziani
Yeah that is how I feel at the bottom of it all. She was truly one of a kind, and a product of her time somewhat. She made the most of it and full credit to her. People who try and think they can create a carbon copy 21st century Marilyn... I can't help but feel they just don't have their feet firmly enough on the ground to respect her legacy for what it is. But it's not my job to tell anyone what they can or can't do. That'll make a fool out of anyone.

Madonna has been very prolific as a producer and artist behind the camera and in the studio. I feel this has served her career well. She released that recent film WL or something, about the Royal Family. It was never going to be a critic's favourite or an audience getter, but she did it because she believed in it. I respect that.
LunarMaiden
Where do you think that ethereal and haunting presence came from Purr?
Painful childhood?

Usually the most profound personalities have suffered greatly early on.
Sag89
She had some serious mental illness, cool chick tho
Marmotini
I'm more of a Natalie Wood fan, and I've even had people tell me I look a little bit like her (Natalie Wood).

I empathize very strongly with Marilyn Monroe, though. I *get* her.

I just think other Geminis don't hold the same sense of fascination for me since we're both Geminis? Plus she and I were born in the same decan and everything, I think her birthday was the day before mine.

I think it was suicide.
LunarMaiden
Posted by geminicandle
As for murder or suicide, I really don't know but considering Kennedy was murdered as well...it's kinda eerie coincidence or is it?


I don't really see how the Kennedy's would have had her murdered just for being a mistress, they had so many.
There would have been women all over the world dropping like flys.
LunarMaiden
Posted by Marmotini
I'm more of a Natalie Wood fan, and I've even had people tell me I look a little bit like her (Natalie Wood).

I empathize very strongly with Marilyn Monroe, though. I *get* her.

I just think other Geminis don't hold the same sense of fascination for me since we're both Geminis? Plus she and I were born in the same decan and everything, I think her birthday was the day before mine.

I think it was suicide.


I love Natalie Wood. One of my favorites.
Betty Davis is actually my favorite.
I may play one of her films tonight.
The one where she shows up in a red dress when it's an all white ball.
Marmotini
Sorry not the day before. She's the 1st I'm the 4th.

I have the same birthday of Angelina Jolie. She's older than me though.

I feel the same way about Angelina Jolie as I do about Marilyn Monroe. I mean I get it, but she isn't someone who preoccupies me excessively, I'm not sure she has the effect on me she has on some people, she actually gets on my nerves more and more, the more I learn about her.

Marmotini
I dunno men loved her for the wrong reasons (sex object) and I don't think she ever felt she found true love and I think she was actually distraught about not being able to have kids (apparently she physically could not, it wasn't just that she chose not to, and back in the 60's that was a lot more depressing to women I think than it is now, where there's all these fertility treatments, or she could just adopt and no one would judge her like they would back then).

That's why I think suicide was very plausible. She was an intelligent sensitive person but I think she wanted something more substantial from her life.

The only grounds I possibly see for murder from the Kennedys is if she was so in love with JFK that she was becoming hysterical and making herself a nuisance (possible, most Geminis seem to be crazy or inappropriate in some way) ...but I don't think she was murdered as part of a huge conspiracy, I've always thought that was kind of dumb.

Kennedy was assassinated for his extremely liberal political views.
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Posted by geminicandle


This song really makes me miss the 80's.
Marmotini
Posted by geminicandle
I like Angie, she has a good heart and she loves to travel, learn about other people and their culture, etc...
She is better than some Hollywood A-listers or even politicans who don't know where freaking Russia is, lol!


Yeah I get it, like I said, she's a citizen of the world and all that, I relate to her ....I just thought she was a lot cooler 10 years ago.

Now I'm just kind of annoyed with all her anorexic control freak over-adopting drama, I think she adopts children like an animal hoarder, I find it a bit "off" even if she has all that money.

I really liked her back in the day when she did Gia, and Girl, Interrupted. Now she's just this tabloid celebrity, that kind of thing ALWAYS bugs me.

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