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5/19/2013 3:06:38 AM | More
DAMEN VI

male

i just read that possibly anywhere from 10 - 50% of women climax during that experience..would you think this is possible or no?
5/19/2013 3:49:44 AM | More
enfant_terrible

29 years old male from United Consciousness of Yugoslavia  

Leo Sun. Taur Asc. Cancer Moon

Only in your dreams.

Though I'm sure there are "freak occurances"... but 10 - 50% , highly unlikely!
5/19/2013 4:55:35 AM | More
libra22

24 years old female

Posted by DAMEN VI
i just read that possibly anywhere from 10 - 50% of women climax during that experience..would you think this is possible or no?



It wouldnt be considered as a rape then,

I dont think they do either.
5/19/2013 5:48:58 AM | More
wagtail

from Australia  

Leo- Cancer Asc. , Cancer

^^^ good answer!
5/19/2013 6:55:52 AM | More
Jahlia

17 years old female

Western astrology: Sun-Capricorn. Moon-G

http://www.thenation.com/blog/169474/how-body-reacts-sexual-assault#
5/19/2013 8:43:26 AM | More
enfant_terrible

29 years old male from United Consciousness of Yugoslavia  

Leo Sun. Taur Asc. Cancer Moon

Posted by PiscVirgAquaFish
The body responds to stimuli whether or not its wanted. It has nothing to do with whether the person is enjoying the experience,...

Getting wet is "the body responding to stimuli" which is common during rape... but actually getting "aroused" is something else!

5/19/2013 10:36:21 AM | More
cowpuncher

41 years old

Damen, let's say you really piss me off. Furthermore, let's say you are athletic and enjoy running under normal circumstances. However, THIS time you have a really angry trigger happy black leather jacket clad guy riding a motorcycle chasing you and every now and then taking a shot at your feet with a 357 magnum revolver as he keeps you running, and running, and running, against your will.

Your body is a biological machine. Just because you aren't real HAPPY about all that running doesn't mean you won't experience a bit of that runner's euphoria, despite the awful circumstances.

I can only imagine this topic would leave a woman with even more emotional scarring from the experience than she would otherwise have. Honestly it's a pretty awful topic, and every rapist alive deserves no better than a quality 185 grain to 200 grain .45 caliber hollow point to the head, chest, or groin... and probably all three. I prefer the old Winchester Black Talons myself when you can get them, but the Federal Premium stuff that costs like $40-50 for a box of 20 works just as effectively.

As I've said before, ad nauseum, I wish every single gal out there would take the time, trouble, and responsibility to learn how to defend herself with DEADLY force, own a firearm, know how to wield it safely and effectively in a fight, and take rapists and thugs out of the gene pool by doing so. Can't repeat-offend if you're dead! Some ppl want a mythical safe "Gun free world". I guess I"m weird, I want dead bad guys, and free people who are able to assert their natural right of self defense just like any other animal that walks this planet.

My eldest niece will be off to college in another 5 years. She will be going there as a deadly shooter armed with a quality weapon bought for her by Uncle CP (NOT a cheapie), and familiar enough with it to handle any situation she's likely to run into. Others mileage may vary. It's a woman's only realistic chance against a drugged, drunken, or enraged determined male assailant... and I'll damned well make sure she has that chance.

Intellectually you ladies can be as equal as you want, no problem there. But physically, Sam Colt is the one who made you equal, and you forget it at your peril.
5/19/2013 11:25:18 AM | More
cowpuncher

41 years old

First of all, you never want to "just maim". If you need it, you are in a life and death situation where fractions of a second can mean your life. If you need to draw your firearm, ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS shoot to kill. Additionally, the perversity of what Lawyers have done to our modern "justice" system is that in some places - Maiming an assailant who intended you or your family harm gives THEM the right to sue you for everything you are worth... legal liability for simply defending you and yours from violence the assailant initiated, and you can be on the hook legally! It has to do with trip-and-fall lawyers manipulatively tugging on heart strings "Oh woe is me, this poor rapist will never again be able to run down a victim and engage in his hobby because PiscVirgAquaFish shot his knee out, denying him the fruits of his rapist labors... he deserves 10,000,000 dollars because now he can't work and has mental anguish!" Believe it or not, in some courts, an argument just as absurd has WON. KILLING them in self defense opens you to much less legal liability. Like I said, it's perverse. Thanks Lawyers!

Sizzurp should probably chime in as well. We'll likely agree on much, but we're different kinds of shooters, he'll have some angles and points that I won't necessarily have in his advice.

I'm no expert really, but I've taught a lot of new shooters (many of them women) basic safety and marksmanship. The best firearm for you is a highly personal topic, but I believe for home defense for a woman, it boils down to two very solid, reliable, logical choices:

20 gauge youth model shotgun - A 20 gauge has less recoil than a 12 gauge, but just about as much power. Recoil = how much it kicks. I'm a large male, and *I* prefer youth model shotguns for this purpose, so that's now an attempt to saddle you with something 'girly'. Youth models have a slightly shorter stock, more easily wielded effectively by a shooter of small stature, and more easily brought to bear indoors in close quarters. A shotgun is a supreme home defense weapon. You notice you hear about people surviving being shot by a handgun, but almost never surviving a shotgun. Yep. However, it can take a second to bring it to bear in a fast, critical situation. I always keep a shotgun loaded in my home, but I also keep a handgun or two loaded as well. I can bring the handgun to bear faster, but if I've got a few seconds... that shotgun is a much more potent weapon.

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5/19/2013 11:40:36 AM | More
cowpuncher

41 years old

Posted by ianthepisces
good way to get the victim put in jail...

best to shoot to kill..


Great minds think alike, I was typing that very thing at the same time... though my merc in sag slows me down with wordiness.

Your other option:
Handgun - I very strongly recommend a stainless steel 357 magnum revolver. This is *not* the fashionable choice these days, most gun stores automatically show the ladies their 9mm and .380 semi automatic handguns when they come in looking for a home defense weapon. Part of that is the effect of Hollywood on all of us, the other part is the belief that you dainty flowers of womanhood will be unable to shoot effectively, won't practice, and will need 19 shots in a magazine because you are going to just keep pulling the trigger without proper aim... referred to as "Spray and Pray"... a tactic which seldom if ever works.

You will only have 6, sometimes 7 shots in a 357 revolver. However, 357 magnum is a proven man-killer. Of the handgun calibers available to us today, statistically, 357 magnum and 45acp are the two with the highest "One shot kill" ratio, BOTH beating out even the mighty 44 magnum which has much more recoil.

Semi auto handguns have to be held properly to function, because that semi auto action depends on you keeping your wrist stiff, so that the slide can cycle all the way back against a spring that is usually about 15 lbs of force, and then forward again to pick up the next round of ammo. Problem is, in a high stress situation, many people - men AND women - tend to do something called "Limp wristing". When you do this, your wrist is just a little bit too limp, and acts as a shock absorber for the recoil, which causes the slide to not come all the way back for proper ejection of the spent round, or proper cycling to pick up the next round, and you end up with a jammed handgun just when you need it most, in a high stress situation. With a revolver, that is impossible. Every time you pull that trigger, it's going to go bang. You only get 6 shots, but you WILL get every one of those 6 shots. The modern revolver is the original point and click interface.

If you are recoil-sensitive, want to practice more affordably, or worried about over-penetration (which is when bullets go through walls, if you are in an apartment building) the 357 magnum allows you to shoot the shorter, lighter, cheaper 38 special rou
5/19/2013 11:44:37 AM | More
cowpuncher

41 years old

If you are recoil-sensitive, want to practice more affordably, or worried about over-penetration (which is when bullets go through walls, if you are in an apartment building) the 357 magnum allows you to shoot the shorter, lighter, cheaper 38 special round, which is also a decent defense bullet for home-defense ranges as long as you load it with GOOD hollow point ammunition like hydrashoks by Federal. Likewise, if you get used to your gun and decide you want more stopping power, you always have the option to use that much more powerful 357 magnum round too. Plus, with a 38 special round, the 357 magnum will have LESS actual recoil because it is built heavier than a 38 special... which absorbs recoil. lightweight dainty guns marketed to women will kick a lot more for a given bullet, which is why I recommend against them.

.357 magnum can kill a pissed off black bear or wild boar, and has been used to take every large North American game animal, so it is highly effective against a large male assailant.

I also specifically recommend a stainless model because they tolerate some abuse and neglect better. They should still be cleaned, but it's not as critical to do it immediately after a range session. I'm lazy, so I buy stainless whenever possible.

IMHO every household should have a shotgun, and a handgun, at the very least. But depending on your circumstances, do at least get one or the other, PRACTICE with it, get familiar with how to use it safely AND effectively. Shooting is actually very enjoyable once you learn! I've taught many women who were squeamish, some even anti-gun, and every one loved it and took it up as a regular hobby afterward. Also, despite the macho image, I've always found it EASIER and FASTER to turn a woman into a competent shooter than a guy. No butter. Not only are you not handicapped by your gender, you might even have an advantage judging by my experience.

Most shooting ranges are 99% male, but they are THRILLED to see a woman come out wanting to learn to shoot. You are much more likely to be welcomed with open arms than you are to run into a macho wall. This is because most men who shoot regularly believe the same as I do when it comes to self defense. Sorta inherent to the belief system. Likewise, there will be ranges near you that offer classes, it could be wise to take them, or at least get out with a friend who shoots and has a few different things you can try. See what you like.
5/19/2013 12:00:03 PM | More
cowpuncher

41 years old

Posted by PiscVirgAquaFish
I guess my biggest fear about getting a gun is having it taken from me, and used against me. Or freezing up, I've never actually used a gun before. My brother goes to the range, I really should go with him. I may talk tough, but when it comes down to it, I don't know if I could actually do it. If I could actually shoot someone with the intention to kill. I rolled over a squirrel once with my car. I still feel bad about it. If the time came, I hope I would pull the trigger without hesitation.


That "Taken from you" thing is BS propaganda from the anti-gun groups. It almost never happens, and ONLY happens when somebody fails to use the firearm when they should. Let's say an assailant is advancing on you, you draw your gun, but despite clearly being in danger you refuse to fire. He could then take your gun. However, you are in no worse situation than you would be WITHOUT that gun, with the guy advancing on you with ill intent. Is he going to somehow rape you more? Kill you more dead? No. By that kind of logic, a cat is safer from predators in the wild if declawed. Bullbutter. I invite the Brady campaign and all others who promote that logic, based on VERY heavily manipulated stats, to immediately start declawing every bobcat in my area, and pull their fangs while they are at it, to keep them safer from the coyotes. uh huh.

Being able to defend yourself when it counts is about confidence, and you get confidence from practice. Get some training from somebody who shoots, get familiar with your weapon and know how to use it safely AND effectively, and that confidence naturally comes... same as riding a bike.

I ran over cat once, a bunny once, and a dog once. Bawled each time like a baby. (Yes, Capricorns cry, just not where you fish can see it). Came upon a still living, but cripped bunny once, had to put it out of it's misery, and REALLY let loose the waterworks. But if somebody breaks into my home with ill intent, especially with family or children there, I'm 100% certain I would drill him full of holes without hesitation.

Even if you are worried you might not be able to, if you get yourself the means to defend yourself, and learn how to use it, you at least give yourself the CHANCE to make that decision. That alone is worth something.

5/19/2013 12:06:51 PM | More
cowpuncher

41 years old

Incidentally, any of you ppl here on DXP who would ever like to learn how to shoot, and are within 2 hours drive of Hannibal, Missouri, USA; let me know and I will be honored to have the opportunity to teach you the very basics of safety and marksmanship, to get you started off right.

A gun is just a tool, like any other tool, and you need to learn how to use it. You can kill yourself or others on a motorcycle, a car, with a carelessly used sharp knife, poorly placed jack stands under a car when you change your oil... etc. In all of these cases, and thousands of others, it's just a matter of learning to use a TOOL safely, and effectively. The same applies with a firearm.
5/19/2013 12:09:10 PM | More
cowpuncher

41 years old

One last bit before I shut my Merc in Sag down:

Regarding legalities, there's an old saying:

"Better to be judged by 12, than carried by 6"

When faced with a situation that requires deadly force, don't hesitate to use it. Dealing with a justice system administrated by crooks and incompetents still beats taking a dirt nap after an assault any day.
5/19/2013 12:48:14 PM | More
cowpuncher

41 years old

Your average criminal, whether thieves or rapists, is a thorough coward, and lazy besides. When I lived in the DPR Kahlifornia, in Hollywood, I would often sit outside on a friday evening on the concrete porch of my building, enjoying a pipe or cigar, while surfing the web via wifi on my old dell laptop. I had two armed mexican gang members try to steal my laptop one night around midnight. One stayed at the bottom of hte steps to prevent me from fleeing that way, the other came up the steps and stood in front of hte apt building's glass door, said "Give a homey a laptop?" and smiled.

I simply said "No.", flatly. That thing had my tax records on it, no frickin way bub, I'd rather die.

He then flashed a 1911 handgun from the pouch of his hooded sweatshirt and said "Don't make me use this...."

His big treetrunkup is he did that with probably the only guy in West Hollywood with intimate knowledge of that firearm. The 1911 is my favorite semi auto handgun. His hammer was down. That means in order to use it, he had to pull it, and either rack the slide, or at the very least chicken the hammer. It also told me he's an amateur since 1911's are 100% safe to carry "chickened and locked".. which means chickened with the safety on, and police officers who still use them still carry them in that condition. This told me I would have a second or two to work with.

So I stood up like I was going to hand it to him, and then raised it above my head ready to absolutely SMOKE his face with it if his hand even twitched, and said "NO." again. This confused the ever loving hell out of him and his thug buddy. Their eyes got wide, he looked at his partner, and started slowly easing his way down the steps. He was no more than 5' away from me, less when I stood up, so I could have easily broken that laptop against his face. As he eased down the steps, I eased my way to the apt building's door, then ran inside. As the door shut he said "That's alright, we'll be back"

So I called the cops, filed a police report, and the next day went out and bought my little Smith and Wesson model 60-7 stainless "Lady Smith" 38 special, which is a superb little compact weapon. I had to wait 10 days to take possession of course thanks to Commiefornia's laws, but thereafter, if I was out on the front porch having my pipe and browsing the web, I had that 38 in my left pocket. (Yes, south paw shooter primarily, but deadly with either hand).

Having a police report on file stating
5/19/2013 12:54:46 PM | More
cowpuncher

41 years old

Having a police report on file stating they said they would be back, and limiting myself to the porch of the building I rented my home in, I felt pretty confident that they would have a difficult time convicting me even if an overzealous DA brought charges against me for using my 38 in self defense. See, they have to find 12 people who all find that unreasonable at the same time in order to do that. treetrunk em. Even in the worst case, at least I'd still be alive if I HAD to use it to defend my life.

You draw you own lines and make your own decisions, but there's mine. Better to live and fight than die as some sort of politically correct, willingly neutered victim.

Incidentally, despite a year of waiting with that 38 with some really nice premium hollow points loaded in it, the bastards never showed back up. I didn't figure they would. As I said, criminals are generally cowards, and they want to pick on a safe, easy target, not one that makes them work for it, or might fight back. Most crime, be it rape, theft, or murder is rooted in somebody being unwilling to work and put forth the effort to get somethign they want, preferring to just take it from an easy target. Predatory, by nature. For the same reason predator in the wild prefers to prey on herbivores most generally... a human predator doesn't want to come up against someone willing to bring the fight to them, rather than just bend over and capitulate.

...and yes, it's VERY Capricorn to be willing to risk your stupid life, unarmed vs two armed gang members, to avoid identity theft and all the resulting expense. lol Duly noted and understood.
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