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7/29/2012 10:29:49 PM | IP

this is a classis issue between cap which is me and leo woman i am involved in. we have been dating for quite some time and our time has flourished. However the biggest strain is going to be between are obviously money issue.
I am typical saver cap and she looks at 2000$ bag at store.
Worst of all, I had a turbulent issue with close family members and loss of a job just a few years ago and recovering with steady savings. Doing good and slowly indulging in luxury sometimes.
She ended another relationship before me and experiencing a loss of job but does not give a damn about her mounting bills and collections calls letters but keep buying stuff. Add her steadiness and fireness and that definitely might create tension in the future. Way she deals with her finance really scares the crap out of me, but she is also extremely sweet and gives her heart wholeheartedly to me. Aside from this big difference, I am still inclined to be with her, but I really need to devise a plan to deal with her recklessness about the finance. If you are cap with leo woman, can you share your experiences about it? What would be the effective ways? Thansk!


7/30/2012 5:04:58 AM | IP
Jynja



Cool Calm Confident

Leo women have magic - she'll eventually replace all that money somehow.

If you're very bothered though, you'd need some strategy. Since you've likely already shown your worry, getting sentimental about how you're gonna fend for the future together (such sentimental things as worrying about babies, babies things, how you're gonna fund the little trips they'll need to go for ice cream together {and you can get as fantastic as you wish here} etc) might bring her back to earth for a short time.

If you take a hard stance, though, get ready to meet stubborn opposition or quiet resentment. Either could hurt your relationship.
7/30/2012 6:26:20 PM | IP
cowpuncher

40 years old

ggdxp000:

You definitely do need to get her spending under control, and if you don't there's just no way the relationship is going to work out permanently.

However, an ultimatum is probably a bad idea as well. When your relationship hits the point where you have to issue ultimatums in an effort to solve problems, you should probably be packing your bags.

I would talk to her about it, air your concerns, and point out to her how destructive that kind of spending is. Try to talk her into a budget! Make up a budget that gets her bills paid, socks a little bit back into a saving's account, and still gives her some "fun" money if at all possible.

Explain to her that financial security and stability is something you NEED in a relationship if it is going to go long-term. Try to get the idea across to her that this is for the good of the relationship, not just you raining on her spending parade. YOU might have to be the one who steps up, does the budgeting, and makes sure her bills get paid - with HER money... if she has poor money management skills.

If you can talk her into making a budget and sticking to it, do make sure she gets that "fun" money, and you might have to step up and go shopping with her to encourage good shopping habits. Start taking her to antique stores and thrift shops and looking for bargains, rather than seeing those prominently displayed $2000 useless purses? You can find GREAT stuff that way, and it might help her get her shopping fix and stay on budget. I've found great cast iron cooking stuff and other kitchen stuff, really neat antiques and nick-nacks, awesome antique tools, and lots of other things in thrift shops. For example - Once I scored a Harmon Kardon stereo for $15!!!!!! Harmon Kardon is good stuff, it sounds amazing, it's very well designed and built... and it cost me 15 frickin dollars, and looks brand new! Steer her shopping itch toward the fun of hunting for a bargain, rather than the fun of buying the big, bright, expensive, shiny thing prominently displayed in a pricey store.
7/30/2012 6:26:57 PM | IP
cowpuncher

40 years old

...continued:

Of the Leo women I've dated, most DO have that shopping/toy-buying impulse. lol Some are good with their money about it though. One of the Leo gals I dated a bit last year does buy expensive toys, but she also works her fingers to the bone to pay for them. She works more overtime than any other woman I've ever known... ever last hour she can get, every week. So she has the expensive taste, but she's also independant and wants to pay for every penny of it herself, on time.

Two other leo gals I've dated... one last year, and one way back in the antiquity of my youth, also liked to shop, but were very frugal about how they did it. They were women who liked cruising the 2nd hand shops, antique stores, and flea markets and had learned the fun of hunting for a bargain, rather than hunting for an extravagent splurge. Both had excellent taste, and spent within their means. BUT, that's because they found a more frugal way to get their shopping fix.

If I think of more I'll post some more. Hopefully some of the Leo gals will chime in here with some thoughts.


7/30/2012 6:29:12 PM | IP
cowpuncher

40 years old

One other thought: A lot of times, it seems like these women are shopping from boredom. What are her hobbies, does she have any? Could you get her in any that would help her burn some restless energy, rather than letting the restless energy push her into burning money?

7/31/2012 12:14:39 AM | IP
WoundedLeo

female from Europe  

Rising Sign is in 22 Degrees Libra

I am a Leo woman who loves pretty things, but who won't be happy with them if I didn't get a bargain. I also tend to be spend thrift by nature, probably due to some Virgo influences in my chart.

With a Leo woman such as yours, I'd suggest keeping separate accounts, specifically an account for you (for your personal expenses/needs/interests), an account for her (for her personal expenses/needs/interests), a joint account for expenses that deal with both of you. Both persons should deposit the same (agreed upon) amount each month in the joint account. You should clearly explain to her why you feel the need to take such measures.

Do you think she'd go for such an agreement? Do you think that this would be helpful? Do you live in state that has common-law for couples?

Also, as CP suggested, you might be able to get her to "see the light" that it's really fun to buy beautiful things at bargain prices. In fact, it's downright awesome! In modern times, the internet provides us with websites where this kind of shopping is actually possible!
7/31/2012 12:23:29 AM | IP
Jynja



Cool Calm Confident

I'm not sure, CP, you might have the boredom part wrong. When I'm bored, I don't go shopping - in fact, I hate going to a place and walking around for hours just to find something to wear. I feel it's beneath my station to wear my heels out (sad, but true fact).

If I have to go shopping though, it's either to please someone or to do something mindless - such as forget a person or get away for a while. I hate screaming young women gushing over everything that seems "modern" so I usually go with my Scorpio mom who understands my sophisticated taste. And yes, I tend to eye expensive stuff if it will add to the image I intend to project.

However, all my Scorpio mom has to do to reign me in is remind me about the things I have very deep sentimental ties with. I have adopted kids in Compassion International who mean a great lot to me, so I'll easily buy a $30 tote so I can send the rest to them. If I can give my nephew something from my money, it comes before anything I would want to buy at the mall.
8/2/2012 11:53:39 PM | IP

Alight guys, I think i will digest your info and hopefully come up with something. Hopefully ours will flourish. I kinda would like to commit to relationship despite the difficulties. I can really say the spending and bossy attitude can be challenging to me. I just want to know if it ever hard to Leos to curb their spending and be little considerate when asking others. In that sense, I always get surprise by their overpowering characters, in my, I kinda like to handle everything and appreciate help from others, but I would like to please her and do favors sometimes she really seems to be taking more and more grounds rather than appreciation and it sometimes challenging to me.
8/3/2012 12:42:19 AM | IP
cowpuncher

40 years old

Bossy is MY #1 complaint with Leo women too! LOLOLOLOLOL That's why Lionesses have been Friend-zoned despite being super sexy. Too damned bossy.

Good luck. You definitely need to get that spending under control if you are ever going to be happy and secure in a relationship with this lady. I hope she listens to you and takes it to heart.
8/3/2012 1:47:21 AM | IP
SwimmingLioness

female from The Great Plains  USA  

Leo Sun/Merc/Venus

LOL! WoundedLeo & Jynja, well I'm here to pretty much back-up what you've said! Maybe we can dispel some myths.

I love scoring a bargain, but I hate spending money on cheap things! Shopping is fine, but aimless wandering is annoying.

LOL@ the separate accounts I am a household unto myself, and have separate accounts to manage different areas of my finances! Why? Because I tend to want things when I see them, yep! So if the money that will pay living expenses and go into savings is automatically distributed into other accounts, then I know the remaining funds are, how shall I say? Disposable!

So, to the OP, I definitely agree with the others about the finances, state your viewpoint, be very clear, and make it non-negotiable Then the decision will be hers. Personally, if I were facing this situation with someone I am in love with, I don't believe it would be a "deal breaker".

Good luck
8/3/2012 1:52:11 AM | IP
SwimmingLioness

female from The Great Plains  USA  

Leo Sun/Merc/Venus

Oh! I forgot about the "bossy" angle! Heh, we're just looking for someone who can handle us!! Testing your mettle.

8/3/2012 8:10:39 AM | IP
WoundedLeo

female from Europe  

Rising Sign is in 22 Degrees Libra

Posted by SwimmingLioness
Oh! I forgot about the "bossy" angle! Heh, we're just looking for someone who can handle us!! Testing your mettle.


Yep!

Posted by cowpuncher
Bossy is MY #1 complaint with Leo women too! LOLOLOLOLOL That's why Lionesses have been Friend-zoned despite being super sexy. Too damned bossy.


What a whimpie Cap! Gotta show those Leo ladies who's boss, but love'em like hell ...then you'll have 'em all squishy in the palm of your hand.

We need to get Nala in this discussion 'cause she's a Lioness with a Cap man and she says herself that she likes to spend.
8/3/2012 11:51:10 AM | IP
cowpuncher

40 years old

Posted by SwimmingLioness
Oh! I forgot about the "bossy" angle! Heh, we're just looking for someone who can handle us!! Testing your mettle.



Translation into Man-English: "We may look really smokin' hot, but really we're a big giant pain in the ass!" :p
8/3/2012 12:11:08 PM | IP
cowpuncher

40 years old

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8/3/2012 12:14:55 PM | IP
cowpuncher

40 years old

WL: Nope, not wimpy! Just a Cap who has already had enough headaches :p It's just that while I do give a girl a lot of attention, I've got other stuff going on too! Maybe I need to mess around with a project, or some new circuit I'm designing? Maybe my chickens need some attention and babying? What about my dog... she needs lots of attention. Then there's my precious Capricorn "alone" time for contemplation and reflection... which we require to stay sane. Leo women don't understand all that important stuff. When they start getting the silly idea that they come before my dog, at that point the relationship is already over. Nothing comes before my doggy!

 

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