Cont'd from Taurus men are simple, yet compliacted

feeling, he could give a flip about YOUR circumstances, he's doing HIM FIRST.

They supposedly only SHOW their feelings, by actions, NOT WORDS meaning by being touchy feely, but what is that suppose to mean??_to us woman. I mean, technically today, at this very minute I can —feel?? like I want to be all touchy feely with someone and tomorrow I won't, does that mean, they??re just horny.

Here's the real kicker??_after he's made you feel, like he's got you..hook, line and sinker, b/c he's so sweet, kind, charming even and along with mysterious and quiet ways, plus he doesn't share much, they magically like to disappear or go days with no contact, yet the whole time you were with them, they made you feel like you??re the only woman in their lives and feel secure and we —women?? can be such suckers, we fall into his trap every time, yet, still feel like we don't know where we stand or what we are to this very evasive man.

They NEVER ask you for ANYTHING, so they seem simple, yet there's so much more going on, under the surface and they won't share to let you know, so how can you connect w/this guy, it seems like, you have to play AT HIS, pace and time, that's a lot of work on the woman side, to end up w/a disappearing act or possibly being told I think I just want to be friends.
Has anyone else had this exp or similar? And if so, what's the deal, why so much effort and mind games and really not fully invest?
I don't get it.

Posted by mae6671
feeling, he could give a flip about YOUR circumstances, he's doing HIM FIRST.

They supposedly only SHOW their feelings, by actions, NOT WORDS meaning by being touchy feely, but what is that suppose to mean??_to us woman. I mean, technically today, at this very minute I can —feel?? like I want to be all touchy feely with someone and tomorrow I won't, does that mean, they??re just horny.

Here's the real kicker??_after he's made you feel, like he's got you..hook, line and sinker, b/c he's so sweet, kind, charming even and along with mysterious and quiet ways, plus he doesn't share much, they magically like to disappear or go days with no contact, yet the whole time you were with them, they made you feel like you??re the only woman in their lives and feel secure and we —women?? can be such suckers, we fall into his trap every time, yet, still feel like we don't know where we stand or what we are to this very evasive man.

They NEVER ask you for ANYTHING, so they seem simple, yet there's so much more going on, under the surface and they won't share to let you know, so how can you connect w/this guy, it seems like, you have to play AT HIS, pace and time, that's a lot of work on the woman side, to end up w/a disappearing act or possibly being told I think I just want to be friends.
Has anyone else had this exp or similar? And if so, what's the deal, why so much effort and mind games and really not fully invest?
I don't get it.

Bravo!!! Very well said. Cannot wait to read the responses. Going through it with a male bull due to his own misunderstanding without asking any questions to clarify what my response to him acutally meant. No apology for being incorrect, I express my disappointment for the first time ever after 1 year & a half and of course now silence and shut down mode from him for a week now. I don't quite get it either. There is only so long a person can keep trying and then I wash my hands of the situation. Frustrated Cappy Lady.

Exactly re: how long a person is willing to wait...I mean drag your feet and he'll be 70 before he marries, if even at all.

Posted by mae6671
Exactly re: how long a person is willing to wait...I mean drag your feet and he'll be 70 before he marries, if even at all.

I really don't know but there is only so long a person can continue to hang on and keep trying if things only happen at HIS pace and HIS timing which in essence is a bit selfish. In the meantime, I am keeping myself busy going on with my life but doing some serous thinking for myself as well. We shall see when others respond.

I'm going through this same exact situation.
Unfortunately I've deleted all my posts on this site, but I wish you would have read them.


We met in June 2011. Hit it off really quick. He was always making the moves. Bringing me into his home, asking what our plans were for the weekend, then wanted to introduce me to his mom. The introduction never happened as I denied because I was not wearing the proper attire.

In November, I find out I'm pregnant. He was there. Always there checking up on me. Before finding out I was pregnant, he would pull disappearing acts. 4 days max. In December I had a miscarriage. And he was still there, but a little more cold and distant.

February 2012 came around. I went back to school and he did not contact me that whole first week of school for me. Then when he did, he said he was bothering me and that he was no longer going to do that. He disappeared for months, until November 2012 came around. He contacts me. At this point I'm giving him a speech about how I don't wanna be second in his life. And he's just listening. A few weeks later, we did get physical again but this time he would pull disappearing moves on me for weeks on. So it was basically booty calls.

We were on and off because I was always trying to figure out what we were and where we stood. And he'd sometimes stay quiet. Other times, he'd simply say he had too much on his plate for a relationship. And that he told me from the get-go that he just wanted to have fun. (WE NEVER HAD THIS CONVERSATION).
YET, he was always observant. Didn't like me doing certain things. I could tell he got bothered by some of my actions.

All 2013 we were off and on. Then in December, he started trying again.
The year ended and 2014 started and wow. Complete change. We were a couple again. And I'd ask him why the change and he'd say that he realized I was always there for him through the good and bad. And that he wanted to try again. Everything was well until June.

We started arguing here and there. Then in July he broke it all off. Saying that I was always talking smack and that I even got to the point where I disrespected him. And he draws the line there. And this is true, I am guilty for it. But only because he'd ignore me at times and I hated it. It'd make me think that he disappeared from my life again. He brought up our late child's situation saying that his life went black the moment we lost our child. He said things along the lines of him not being senti

@Iamawinelover, agreed. One must move on....and actually, funny part is, they are pretty decent men, King, gentle, loving, but, if only, they didn't leave a woman waiting and wondering, in addition, to being so evasive and the disappearing acts. rolling my eyes.

He said things along the lines of him not being sentimental. That he'd never tell me he loves me because he doesn't even tell his mom he loves her. That he's not gonna open up. He's not the kind to take me to a coffee shop to talk. Which from my part I think is BS! Because he was showing emotion. At the end of that conversation he told me that if it meant that much to me that he'd think about things and try working them out.

Last week, I spent the night over. We did get physical. He seemed, content. Then initiated contact again about me coming over soon. So a couple of nights when he asked when I was coming by again I asked if he thought about what he wants to do in regards to us. He said he didn't think he could see himself being in a relationship with me. That the negative outweighs the positive and that he tried really really hard but he just can't. He does want to have sex though...

So, it's just one of those things. Where sometimes, you just gotta let go.