Leo and Aries: From an Aries point of view

Look Im basically a typical Aries Chick and love it. But its crazy that we date so many different signs but for somw odd reason the only sign that is remotely close to what we want AND need is a freaking LEO. Its like looking in a mirror with them except a few quirks. Yea we aries female think we are right all the time but damn we can admit it when we are DEAD wrong. A leo wont even think they could possibly be wrong. But I think the big debate is their EMOTIONS. Naturally Aries wants to open up to them b/c it feels right but damn why can't we get it back. Its like they are playin a damn game. But when we call them out on it they wanna get mad. Or when we just leave then they wanna beg us back. AND OH SHIT, dont let us return the negative treatment they give us lol they get so fucking hurt and act like they can't forgive us but we can forgive them. DAMN when will the Lion and RAM work in harmony? They know we are something serious and give them the challenge the Lion struggle for but it seems once they get too deep say HELL NO and start doing stupid shit. Why fight it if it feels right. right?

wow...looks like the full moon in Libra, yesterday, is getting to you. I'm sorry, but it must work differently for aries guy and leo girl. Everything you've said is the same thing for me in dealing w/ my aries. My experience has been that aries can NEVER admit when they're wrong, and when they do, they still try to justify their behavior.

Regarding opening up to one another...I'm the one that does it...he's gotten A LOT better about it, but it's very hard for him to just say what's on his mind. And when he does speak his mind and call me out, it's NEVER tactful. That's why we get upset...instead of telling us rationally and calmly what's wrong and why/how we are getting to you...you aries flare up your temper, hurting our feelings (not you, TD21, but my aries, def.). I mean, Imagine the wrath of your temper being exerted on you! You wouldn't like to it too much, now would ya:-)

The problem is Aries Ego and Leo's Pride. Each is very important to us and if we feel slighted (particularly Leo's Pride) it's hard for us to bounce back. Here's how you gotta think of it, and maybe you could share your insight w/ me as well...

Leo's truly do regard themselves as royalty. Not in a vain, conceited, superficial kind of way...but in a noble, loyal, dignified way. We truly live by the rule (as I've mentioned somewhere on the boards b/4) to treat thy neighbor as you treat thyself. The only reason why we have high expections and high demands is because we have those same expectatios and demands of ourselves. We will never ask anything of you that we wouldn't do in return. That's our blessing and that's our problem. The biggest complaint that I have about my Aries is mentioned in every argument that we have "I don't treat/speak to you that way, so don't treat/speak to me that way." However, I'm better at choosing my battles w/ him and better at letting things go.

Nevertheless, it's true...everything does always feel so good...but every relationship goes through some sort of drama!

"the desire to challlenge the love is tamed slightly for the leo...and the needs of the aries are satisfied."

"its a mirror for them too, they will have an understanding. If you're sincere...they will know it and will take less to playing a game."

"Don't play the game, but just be a part of the relationship or leave it."

Very insightful, Arianlatay...I feel like you're the only Aries that understands us:-)

The thing w/ Leos is that we have to constantly put up with them being "on stage" always hogging the spotlight---but they are delicious and VERY entertaining!

Well to be honest it took me ALOT of LEO's to get to the point of remembering the phrase "you catch more bees with honey". The only problem I have with my current leo is his feelings. For the simple fact he is divorced and seem still hurt by it. His ex wife cheated on him and got pregnant by another man. So basically it destroyed him. So as a true aries I try to prove to him that its ok. I wont hurt you. But it seem he see it but won't believe it. And im scared that all Im doing is in vain. I hope this leo knows I really want to be his lamb more than a ram.

Hey Hitch...aka, Arianlatay!

Libra is the opposite sign to Aries. Aries governs self and Libra governs others...i.e. relationships. Full moon was in Libra yesterday, which is why so many aries are having issues, epiphany's and obstacles in their relationships this week.

Regarding my aries...he has moon in gemini. BUT, his mercury's in Aries, mars in Leo, neptune in Sagitarius and of course Sun in Aries. He does have a lot of fire in his chart.

About your SPARTAA!!!!...NOW you understand why I LOVE that movie so much!!!

E.g. about what he says and my reaction...well, the other day, I was trying to figure out how to put the top down in his friends mustang. I saw the button but didn't realize the car needed to be on for me to do so. I called him twice, and he was a little stressed at the time. His response was "Well baby, I can't help you...I mean if you can't see the button, then you must be the blindest f'in person on the planet" (he said the f-word) and then finished with "I don't know what the f your problem is" (and said the f-word again). His excuse was that I wasn't clear enough in what the problem was. He did apologize, but the fact that he cursed at me and insulted me REALLY hurt my feelings. Even more so because he had been acting like a real jackass all day, and night b/4 (but I let the previous incidents go). I hung up on when it happened, and had real attitude.

He explained himself, but my thought was...no matter how dumb I may sound, it doesn't give you the right to talk to me that way! I said to him that I don't speak to you that way, and I don't want to be spoken to that way...that shit was just wrong!

So...that's what I meant when I said that he apologizes, but then tries to justify his behavior.

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Well Arianlatay basically I want him to realize Im not out to hurt him and its Ok to just let go. We work so good together. Like a team ready to take on the world. In public we get the spotlight and work the room. With his friends we have fun and he showers me. But when it comes to VERBALLY telling me what he feel its pointless. As an aries we have to SEE IT AND HEAR IT, for reassurrance. As an Aries Im so used to people trying to take my kindness for weakness so me seeing it isn't enough. I have to hear it. I mean with him its like a rollercoaster. One minute he's my cuddly lion the next he's being distant and acting nonchalant like it doesnt matter whether I come or go. The only time he actually told me anytype of feeling is when he's drunk. When he's drunk he tells me how beautiful I am to him, how I treat him like no other female, how I make him feel like man, I even got an I loveyou. But me being me just kinda disregard wat was said b/c of intoxication. I just want to know how to get my lion to open up more and trust me more.

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You should be glad he apologized, b/c a leo wont apologize they will say that you should have seen the button or some shit like that. But as an Aries we tend to lash out and not realize it till the end. But when we do realize it we feel bad and explain. We usually do that b/c we would want somebody to explain to us WHY they did what they did. So basically we look at people on how we want to be treated. Most likely he thought about it and said damn I shouldnt have did that b/c I wouldnt want anyone to cuss at me so you did good by calling him out on his shit like that. Sometimes us Aries tend to run wit it when you let us. So by you letting him being a jackass all day could have been cut short if you wouldve got into that ass the first time. Not by yelling b/c that would add fuel to the fire but by seriously telling him "STOP IT". Yea he might be mad b/c he think you tryin to boss him around but he will realize that he's wrong once you point out you respect him so he NEED to respect you. Juss gotta bring the ram back to reality sometimes

What are you talking about SagitTAURIes?

i find that in dealing you have to "coach" them indirectly...don't be critical and let them know what you want. Always be soft and sweet...even when standing your ground. BC its a mirror for them too, they will have an understanding.

I definitely found that you can't by any means be CRITICAL AND TELL THEM WHAT YOU WANT...It simply doesn't work, he will run so fast your head will spin, he will listen to it and take it a few times and then he will shut down and go away, I did this and I'm reaping what I sowed...this is critical information, she hit the nail on the head, if you criticize a leo male and then turn around and say I want you to do this, he will shut down like a power outage, so find another way, find another approach most definitely.

Always be soft and sweet...even when standing your ground. BC its a mirror for them too, they will have an understanding:

that can take alot of real practice, I read this over and over again, I realized that its hard to maintain a sweet disposition when your being growled at and if your a fighter, a go getter then this might not work for some.

I have taken this approach, I remember he snapped at me in the car and my reaction was soft and sweet and he went back to his old cuddly, happy self again, of course I didn't realize my reaction was the catalyst to keep us from going at each others throats but the approach does work, I consciously didn't realize at the time this approach was the most effective approach at the time but it works.

Now implementing it on a daily is another thing...it takes practice, some people are naturally soft but some women are so used to having to fight for everything, this mind set would take practice, I can say that I'm a lot softer than I was 5 yrs ago but this could be challenging for some...staying calm in the face of adversity and tension..interesting.

lol yea I know exactly what you mean on that one. It took me alot of Leo's to learn that method. I do that with my leo sometimes when Im conscious that he's just cranky but sometime I slip up and my Aries nature flare right along with his growl. lol BUt sometimes he just be playing and trying to see if he can get arise out of me b/c he thinks its too cute when Im fiesty.

I would say Aries' need to move lightning fast is just a way of avoiding showing any feeling. Really, what's so wrong about hanging around after sex? Other than cuddling and softening your tough appearance, maybe.

Mystic, EVERYTHING thing an Aries does is lightning fast!

BTW, keep your Leo guy in the spotlight and let him talk and talk and talk---he'll be just fine!

LOL@Gemini_Rising414 hmmm... I've tried the docile effect with my Leo before and it usually doesn't work... he almost immediately asks "What's WRONG??!!" He gets scared and doesn't talk to me for a day or two lol.

So it depends on the Leo. My Leo told me that if he wanted a girl who didn't speak her mind, he could have bought a blowup doll.

Docile, nah, atleast not me, its more like I can speak my mind and I have with my leo but I noticed it was how I spoke my mind and the energy level behind it which can either make things worse or better, if he's agitated or take an aggressive tone and I turn around and give him that same energy back it caused a major onslaught of unnecessary tension, no one can stay calm all the time and I have blew up but I did notice when I reacted softly things didn't escalate and went back to normal immediately, I don't know if I could do that all the time but its nice to know that I can de-escalate a situation at any given time if I chose to do that, I think a person has to be patient with leos and pick and choose battles with them.

All leos are different though, yours may love that energy because he has made it clear its okay to be aggressive and speak your mind. When I go off on mine he retreats....in this last bought it was for days, he just came back around yesterday acting chipper and falling back into sync with me.

tiki girl you are really making progress. i love that you have an example of a time when you were nice!!!! thats motivating isn't it? i am soooooo tired tho girls. i can't even think. corp america has my brain fried, lmao.

Well I kinda ran thru your statement and then came back later and read it a few times and then that scenerio popped into my head, also you gave wonderful advice when you told me to be present by texting just to say have a good day, this totally worked!! He texted me right back and thanked me and then called me later that afternoon, even left a few comments on this site were on saying how much he missed me and that I was his girl which was GREAT!! I melted, I'm not going to lie *giggling*

Its work though, I'm not going to lie! I called him at work just to tell him that I was thinking about him and said a few things that I can't repeat but he basically said to call him back anytime if I wanted to talk and play on the phone, I didn't but it was nice to just hear him extend himself like that. I'm going to take it slow and not push, just going to keep it light for now and enjoy it.