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Can someone please help me understand this NN business.

Ok, I've done my own research but the information I've came across only discusses NN conjunctions. I don't see anything about oppositions, & that's what I'm curious about.

My SN is conjunct my SO moon, but his moon opposes my NN. Could that be considered a conjunction as well being that the opposition is so close in degrees?

His moon is 8 degrees in Pisces, & my NN is 8 degrees in Virgo. Is that a conjunction? I'm confused...if anyone has any information on it please share. Thank you! 🙂
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You can think the nodes as an axis. (Nodal axis) They always oppose.
SN the traits and habits that you've basically mastered in your previous lives. It's your fall back.

North node the direction that you need to go to. Traits and such that you need to develope.
The key is to balance the axis. Not to go to an extreme and abandon the old.

With a moon/sn synastry conjunction. You will feel an immediate connection and familiarity. Some say that one may have been a mother to the other in a past life. I don't really get into that aspect of it.

The moon person will feel instant familiarity but over time may begin to feel like the sn person is draining them of emotional energy. They may start to feel the need to break free.
But other factors of the chart need to be considered.
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My SN is conjunct my SO moon, but his moon opposes my NN. Could that be considered a conjunction as well being that the opposition is so close in degrees?

His moon is 8 degrees in Pisces, & my NN is 8 degrees in Virgo. Is that a conjunction? I'm confused...if anyone has any information on it please share. Thank you! 🙂


No, it can't be a conjunction when the planets/points are in opposite signs.
The close degrees you refer to in this case is the "orb"
An opposition is 180?? (opposite sign) with an allowable "orb" of (+/-) 8?? for comparing of two charts.
Each type of aspect has its own allowable orb, in this case, a conjunction allows 10?? orb, trine & square is 6??.

EG:
If your NN is 8?? 30' Virgo and his Moon is 8?? 00' Pisces, they are in opposition with an orb of -0.5 degrees.
Once the angle moves outside the allowable orb, the aspect is not considered.
The tighter the orb, or the closer the angle in degrees of the orb, the stronger the aspect is said to be.
If you could push just his Moon along in Pisces, you could push it all the way to 16?? 35' Pisces before it was out of orb.
If his Moon was at 15?? Pisces it's still considered an opposite aspect but with a loose orb


**North & South nodes are ALWAYS directly opposite each other in our personal charts
(NN also known as True Node or Asc Node)
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Thanks Moonman. The orbs & degrees have me confused. I still don't really understand it completely. When I do any research on the synastry of NN opposing the moon, I only get information on conjunctions & not oppositions.

I've also read that the oppositions can be considered a conjunction. Idk...do you know about any synastry between the oppositions? With the NN that is. With personal planets & oppositions, I've researched that it can be "true love", when I used to believe opposites were a pain in the ass, they're really not opposite at all.
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My SN is conjunct my SO moon, but his moon opposes my NN. Could that be considered a conjunction as well being that the opposition is so close in degrees?

His moon is 8 degrees in Pisces, & my NN is 8 degrees in Virgo. Is that a conjunction? I'm confused...if anyone has any information on it please share. Thank you! 🙂




EG:
If your NN is 8?? 30' Virgo and his Moon is 8?? 00' Pisces, they are in opposition with an orb of -0.5 degrees.
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Is that a tight orb?
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The orbs & degrees have me confused. I still don't really understand it completely. When I do any research on the synastry of NN opposing the moon, I only get information on conjunctions & not oppositions.


Orbs are referenced in degrees, each planet or point in your chart (ie: Moon's node) has its exact degree in a particular sign.
An orb is used for every aspect between two points - opposition, conjunction, square or whatever, regardless whether the aspect is just relating to planets in your chart or for synastry.
Just think of the orb as an allowable deviation from an exact alignment, that's all it is used for.



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I've also read that the oppositions can be considered a conjunction. Idk...do you know about any synastry between the oppositions? With the NN that is. With personal planets & oppositions, I've researched that it can be "true love", when I used to believe opposites were a pain in the ass, they're really not opposite at all.


Technically, you cannot have a conjunction and opposition at the same time between two points.
It's possible you misinterpreted something.

Do you have a web reference talking about what you're trying to understand?
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Yes I think I must've misunderstood. No I don't have any references. I did research some time ago on various sites. Thank you for the information. 🙂
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EG:
If your NN is 8?? 30' Virgo and his Moon is 8?? 00' Pisces, they are in opposition with an orb of -0.5 degrees.




Is that a tight orb?


Yes, the smaller the degree (or angle) the tighter the orb, in this example the opposition would be considered exact
because the degrees are the same, I showed the minutes for reference and context.
A loose orb would be 7 or 8 degrees.
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Ok. That's why I thought it was conjunct. Now I see. Do you know where I could possibly find more info on NN oppositions to personal planets? Thanks for your help. 🙂