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Posted by cappysweetie
Usually, I do my best to put into words how I feel. Its hard but I can do it if I try.

However, right now. I feel as if whatever I type won't make any sense at all ...


I feel stuck and I don't like it but I feel I can't get out of it.


Don't mind me, I'm just sorting through my brain at the moment. I haven't done this on the boards in a while.



Cappy Sweety I am sorry to hear you are going through a tough time. I hope it works out for you. If you need some one to listen send me a pm anytime. 🙂
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Posted by cappysweetie
Usually, I do my best to put into words how I feel. Its hard but I can do it if I try.

However, right now. I feel as if whatever I type won't make any sense at all ...


I feel stuck and I don't like it but I feel I can't get out of it.


Don't mind me, I'm just sorting through my brain at the moment. I haven't done this on the boards in a while.



Cappy Sweety I am sorry to hear you are going through a tough time. I hope it works out for you. If you need some one to listen send me a pm anytime. 🙂
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aww eric 🙂 🙂 Thank you ^_^.
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Its hard to wrap my head around this.

I kinda found out why the leo-virgo went all silent, I guess I would go silent too if I were in his position.

Two days ago, I was prepping for dinner when my saggie-cap roommate wanted to know what was going on with the leo-virguy and myself -- I wondered why he'd want to know this because he 'can't stand him' supposedly. He knew we were dating since the middle of June and he wanted to know how things were going.

See, after finding out that there was very bad history between the saggie-cap and the leo-virguy, I along with some good advice from my e-buddies (🙂) decidedly not to discuss either guy with each other. Still in all, I wish knew that the two didn't like each other or else I wouldn't have moved in with the saggie-cap.

Anyway, back to the point, my roomie's like, "I know something's wrong, I can see it, tell me, I'm all ears." I guess he may have figured out something was wrong after a few things I said.

*Keep in mind, I wasn't thinking clearly when I was talking to him because .... well, I had the virguy on my mind but I did catch myself before I said too much, after what I waas told next*

I told him that I haven't heard from him and I don't know if I want to hear from him because of all the chaos thats going on with the two daughters and the ex-girlfriend. My saggie-cap roomie seemed thrilled at my frustration -- which I didn't take lightly but I was curious so I didn't let him know what I was thinking. He said, "So in other words, what you're trying to tell me is .... you don't care anymore?"

Before, I could get a word out he was like, "So in other words, fuck him! I'm so proud of you, *real name* has finally came to her senses. All this time, I was beginning to wonder about you, thats why I was acting different with you."

I asked, "What do you mean? Did you think I was being stupid?"

He shook his head yes :O I was like, "You should know by now that I'm not an idoit ... " before I could finish, the saggie-cap went on to say,

"I only thought that because I warned you not to go out with the guy and you didn't listen."

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My roomie then goes on this rant about how back in June he told me that the guy was no good for me and that I shouldn't go out with him. I went on to say that the Leo-Virguy I know is not the same Leo-Virguy that he knows.

He went on to say that I don't know his history, "I know his past, you don't. This makes a huge difference as to why you feel the way you do about him. How could you care about a guy like that?"


I'm getting pissed now because he telling me nothing still, I ask, "What do I need to know. You should tell me what it is that I don't know about him. Maybe I would understand why you are so against him. I know alittle about him past but you know more, so tell me."

I also went on to say, ".... plus, I think he's been honest with me about alot. You keep bad mouthing him but he seems to be truthful if I ask him anything. I never wanted to go deeper in his life before me because I think its too soon ..."

My roommate grins (I hate it when he makes that face), "Thats because he only tells you what he wants you to know. Trust me ... you did the right think by not giving a fuck and leaving him alone."

Then the saggie-cap gets all serious, "No matter what, of he begs you to talk to him, don't do it. Fuck him. He's not important enough. Not only do I know the ex-girlfriend he has kids with, I know his other ex-girlfriend as well. If I let you talk to her about him, you're whole impression of *insert virguy's real name* ... but I'm not going to do that. You should just take my word for it."


OMG! OMG! OMG! is he kidding me! I pointed, "You never told me that you were friends with his other ex!!!!"

He looked at me, "Did I have too? Did I have to get that detailed and deep for you to believe me about this guy? Why? He's not worth it."

Everything around me seem to stop for a moment ... I didn't know he know both women the leo-virguy had a relationship with :O

I was and I still am confused. I knew the Saggie-cap sleep with the Leo-virguy's ex-girlfriend but I didn't know he was friends with the other one too :O :O :O

No wonder he knows so much -- he's freaking linked to the two women that were close to the Leo-Virguy, other than his mom.


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His ride came to get him, so before he left, he said, "I got so much on this man, you wouldn't believe it. He and I have seen each other recently. I know exactly why he has a problem with you leaving with me, he's afraid I'm going to tell everything. As long as you two aren't seriously together like that, then I don't have to tell the man's past. You are upset with him and you should be. You two are not speaking at the moment indicates that its over, thats great. So what the hell, I don't have to say anything else but I do have alot of shit on the guy. Plus, if I tell you not to go out with him, its for a reason and you should listen ..."

And that was the last of it, he went off with one of his girls.

There were a few other things that happened but the conversation with my roomie is all I can put into words at the moment.
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Posted by ianthefish
typically guys are dumb...
i dont know how you ladies put up with a lot of us..


Posted by cappysweetie
Posted by cappygolightly
the leo/virguy?




There you are.

I was just wondering about the convo you, myself and Sagigoat had like 2 monthes ago regarding a situation. My god, if Sagigoat was around, she would totally say 'I told you so' Well, she did ...




hopefully shes living life to its fullest, now that she was paroled from DXP Penitentiary..
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Yes, I hope she's doing well ^_^. And getting some things taken care of.
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Posted by cappygolightly
your room mate is a manipulative and spiteful creep. He's probably been stirring to the leo virguy. You should not confide in him....




Hey!

No, I know I shouldn't confide in him, and I don't. Its just that day, I lost my senses a bit. Which was probably a good thing because I learned some stuff I didn't know about, you know? Like, I didn't know that he was close to both the Leo-Virguy exs. I only knew of the one.

Why is he close to both of them? I'm so damned puzzled about that. Every since we had the discuss he's been avoiding me. Like he doesn't want to tell me why he linked to both the leo-virguy's exs.

I really didn't understand why the leo-virguy had a problem with me living with the saggie-cap until now. Of course he would, the guy (like you said) is a manipulative and spiteful .... creep. And it sucks because the saggie-cap and I have been friends for a while but I didn't know this side of him at all.

Plus, I have a hot and cold thing going on with the saggie-cap -- I'm not sure if he's holding stuff over the Leo-Virguy's head for my own good or for other things.

I guess I just have issues with the fact that he screwed one of the Leo-Virguy's exs while he KNEW he was trying to get back together with her and now he tell me that he friends with his OTHER ex too —

I'm like OMG, why? And if the Leo-Virguy is 'so bad' why doesn't he just tell me, he doesn't have anything to lose the Leo-Virguy does.

There's something really wrong here and my attention is else where so I can't really figure it out.
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As you can tell, I'm confused. I don't know which is which anymore.

I did tell the Leo-Virguy that I was going to move out by this time -- only if I have enough money, thats what I said too -- but I don't so I'm kinda stuck with the saggie-cap until I can do better. My parents are having a few problems so I can't go stay with them just yet.

The Leo-Virguy is not too happy about this and I know it but like I told him before all this other stuff happened, there's nothing I can do right now.
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Posted by cappygolightly
I think it sounds like you need to take a break yourself from both these guys and the whole situation....it sounds very messy and kind of incestuous if you know what I mean. I am not sure I remember if the cap sag guy ever came onto you, but he is acting like a guy does when he feels another guy is stepping on his sexual territory (whether he wants anything serious with them or not he feels all the women around belong to him..). Your room mate sounds incredibly insecure and immature. You just "think" you learned something. From what you say he didn't actually tell you anything, just inferred enough to make you feel that you cannot trust the leo virguy. At the end of the day if he knows the other ex ..so what? He sounds like he's a very sociable guy. What you did not realise before was that he is also a malicious gossip. I think whenever guys criticise other guys in this way it is simply a bad reflection of their own character. Ive seen it before and to tell the truth I would steer clear of both of them based on my own experience. Because in my case both guys were players and you may be dealing with the same kind. Players quite often feel competitive with each other (and any other man around) because their game is point scoring. If you are in a mind wrestling game with two players then just run the other way and find a guy who is decent, kind and possibly a virgin 😉



Wow, good observation CGL, and you're not even here with me lol.

Yes, he's very sociable and thats fine but before, he never told me he was good friends with the one ex because I remember that he sleep with the other one.

I knew the Leo-Virguy hated him for some reason but I just don't know ...

So I should steer clear of both of them? Well, The leo-virguy hasn't really done anything to me yet -- you know, nothing that would make me go 'OMG'. The Saggie-cap has given me reasons to go 'Holy crap!'. The Leo-Virguy seems to have a huge, huge problem with me living with the Saggie-cap and I think my fault lies in the fact that I thought he got over it (like I suggested) but apparently, thats not the case.

You see, I can see his point (the leo-virguy ... although I'm still pissed), I wouldn't trust nor want to be with anyone whose roomming with someone who has 'connections' with both exs. That means the saggie-cap could "try" me out ...

😢

Like you said CGL
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Posted by cappygolightly
these guys are screwed up, but you are fine.



I agree, somethings wrong but I don't want to figure it out ... I have way too much going on. But you know, I feel that if I don't *at least* pay attention, things will get even more weird.

I will say that the saggie-cap guy is being a bit 'nicer' since he knows the Leo-Virguy are having trouble :/ Yes, its scary how nice he's being. I mean, he being okay after the few talks we had about 'things' but now its like he's being ... well ... nice :/ After all my bickering I did in June, he would treat me with respect (with exception to the girls he brings over haha)but he would still be grumpy -- now, he seems 'changed' :/


I just don't like the idea that he seems to be holding something over the Leo-Virguy's head. Thats not right and I don't like it -- regardless to what he did, if someone did that to him, he'd go mad.

Although, I'm mad withe the L-V, I still feel bad for him .... isn't that odd? I don't feel too bad, just alittle bit ...

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Posted by Domino
Cappy, you deserve way better.

Honestly, I'm just going to cut this sort, but, if someone calls you stupid or thinks your stupid, they themselves don't understand this world at all. If they mean that they consider you to be of less educational standard as themselves. There is by no means that your stupid; I guess some people conclude that because it seems that your really trust worthy and free spirited. Your an amazing woman, really active and enjoyable with an amazing sense of humour. You deserve way better then to be with someone that considers you stupid or thinks he cannot trust you. Push them away, don't even bother with them, your better than that. They don't deserve to be with you.

Consider it this way. No one on this planet is stupid. We all have the same mental capacity as anyone else with only minor difference on development based on small advantages here and there. But anyone has the potential to reach such goals, just in their own manner. No, you are not stupid in any means.

(I hope I got on the right track here, I only glimpsed over it. Sorry if I'm way off track).




Domino, you are wonderful, I understood everything you were saying, thank you 🙂 🙂 🙂 Yes, even I think all of this is a bit much for me but I'm not sure what it is I can do to fix anything. The Saggie-Cap guy seems one step ahead of me. I don't know how the L-V guy and I not being together benefits him at all really ... I think he likes poking at him :/


You were kinda in the right track, but just a bit off, so let me explain briefly.


The Leo-Virguy never ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever suggested that I was acting stupid -- he knows better 😉 He just had a problem with me rooming with the Saggie-Cap dude. I didn't know they were enemies until after I moved in. The L-V just didn't want me to do it, but I did it anyway because I wanted a roommate and the Saggie-Cap was available. He wasn't too happy about that but I thought he'd got over it but I see he hasn't ...

The Saggie-Cap guy is the one that suggested I was being stupid because I started going out with the Leo-Virguy. He always has something insulting to say concerning him. My roommate is very arrogant and a bit of an asshole. He does things to piss off the the Leo-Virguy and then he hides in the 'shadows' after doing his dirty work.

I'm caught in the middle because I car
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Posted by cappygolightly
so the saggie cap openly bitches about the leo virgo, but the leo virguy was just unhappy about the situation (and did not bitch to you about how nasty the capp sag was)? This would imply he has some integrity. the sag cap has not actually told you anything, just put a seed of doubt in your mind by making out he knows something bad.... sounds like a bluff.




Yep CGL, you got it right.

The saggie-cap belittles the leo-virguy to no end. However, the leo-virguy has only referenced to me NOT moving in with him and that he was trouble. As far as getting personal about the Saggie-cap guy, the leo-virguy reframes from that.

I hope the sag-cap is bluffing, I really do 😢 Yes, the leo-virguy has some integrity and I know that -- he may not display a whole lot of it but its there.
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Posted by Crazy4cappy
This might be a bit left of the field.... but could your roomie line someone else up fast, if you were to move out?
I dunno, you being happy with a guy which could lead to you eventually moving out might make him a little bit
insecure.

Also would he want a male roomie who could hit on one of loose women he brings home.
His got it pretty good with you being there.







OMG! I did't even think about that .... no he doesn't have anyone lined up to stay with him if I left.

Before our disagreement, the Leo-Virguy referenced that I come stay with him for bit, just a few days, not actually live with him. He said I would have all that I need at his home .... but I never told my roommate this ... but maybe he heard us talking ? :/
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Posted by Crazy4cappy
And the thing is your roomie hates this guy so of course he will say negative stuff.

The ex-gfs, you can't tell how much of what they would have said would be lies anyway.

All you can do is go on how he treats you. At the end of the day that is all that's important. Besides any
less than that isn't fair to this guy is it? I mean would you rather people give you a chance and make their
own minds up about you rather then just passing you off because of hearsay.

Go on how he treats YOU and what YOU think of him and his behaviour towards YOU.








THAT'S EXACTLY HOW I FEEL! Why should I care about how he treated someone else? I know that I haven't treated my exs the same, does that make me a bad person? I don't think so. And you are right, all this isn't fair to him at all.



Its a shame things ended up the way they did ...
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hey, cap ... i read what you wrote before you hid it. I was just too out of it to reply. i'm sorry, but you should really unhid it, theres nothing to be a shamed of.


anyway, i can see why you feel trapped. no one should be forced to make a decision that they aren't ready to make but it seems to happen that way.

if the leo loves you, then thats wonderful but just let him know that you aren't ready to get married right now.


i know the way you saggie moons are ^_^. its best for saggie moons to know what they want before doing anything. If you don't, you only end up hurting someone and i know that wouldn't be your intention.
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i'm pissed with my roomie too ... if he didn't go around giving the leo-virguy false impressions (he said he didn' but he's such a lair), things wouldn't be the way they are in.

him wanting to be the 'casanova of all chicks' is partly to blame for the collaspes of the L-V and I.

he's only partly to blame -- like 45% of it b/c he should have stop feuding with him when we started going out but he didn'.
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Posted by cap.
I hid it only coz i do not like my personal life on net. U know every one can read it. 🙂




yes, honey, but no one else knows you're "cap" but you 🙂 not unless you tell people offline that you are on dxpnet.

no one else who reads it will know that its you.


well, maybe i'm wrong. is it that you don't want other users to read it? if thats the case then i understand.


somethings i care about sharing other things i prefer not to. holy christ, if i shared everything on here, i probably wouln't know what to do with myself haha.

trust me, a huge 89% of my life, i don't put on here, only 11% -- just because i wouldn't feel real if i didn't share some things, you know? if somethings bothering me or if i have an issue, i have to express it.
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Posted by Ike 2.0
leo/virguy needs to be tough cookie . good guys always end up last and defeated . One of the sins of leo is too much heart , while the sag/cap gets away with everything this guy is made to be a fool . Maybe its the virgo in him , because personally i will verbally shred anyone who talks behind my back .




thats the thing, he looks like a tough cookie on the ouside, but in the inside, he's all over the place. he knows that i live with the saggie-cap, so putting him in the hospital won't do him any good. plus .... there are some things that the saggie-cap is holding over his head, so he can't touch him 😢


its frustrating for him, i know, but he shouldn't take it out on me. like i said, i didn't know they know each other until i was getting ready to move in and i didn't know the dark past between them until after i moved my stuff in.
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Posted by cap.
"yes, honey, but no one else knows you're "cap" but you not unless you tell people offline that you are on dxpnet.

no one else who reads it will know that its you."

Yeah but anyone can have access to DXP 🙂 lol i am just too paranoid case.


"well, maybe i'm wrong. is it that you don't want other users to read it? if thats the case then i understand. "

No no its just about people i know in my real life.





oh i see ... i guess i'm not that paranoid, but there are certain things i know to keep here and certain things i know to get rid of as well 😉

so yeah, i know what you're talking about.

thats why i'm afraid to use names (among other things i'm afraid of doing haha) because of that reason too. so yeah, its a pain in the ass but i just use the signs of the people -- although it can get repetitive because i have more than just one friend under that sign. but yeah, it works for me ^_^.