Scorpio Taurus - turning into mud

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Posted by Let*It*Be
You have two very strong wills here...both FIXED signs, and that's where the marriage for life comes in. That's their mind set. It is also true, when they go out or are with close friends it lightens them both up immensely. 20 years is a very long time, and no matter what sign for a marriage of this length, shit happens, and it gets old.

Marriage for life definetly, they will not give in and in Ireland its not so acceptable to end marriages. Scorpy has already said to me that he has ceased efforts as there is no progress, its amazing that you have used the same wording! The problem is they both have a life, full of hobbies and interests, keeping them away from each other - everything they do is separate. They do still have a spark for sure, but the problem is neither is now prepared to make an effort, taurus is stuck in the past not letting go of things (was just speaking with her now and she brought up stuff that happened a few years ago with him). I suggested to scorpy that they should go out together once a week on there own, and he followed this up, but it didn't go well and he gave up, too soon in my opinion but as there was no instant progress he stopped it. They admit they love each other, haven't been on a holiday in a few years, the recession has ruined his business. They have children at home, 12, 14 and 20, and taurus is putting everything into th
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For me, the beginning of the end was when the Bull started bringing our petty spats out into the public arena--it made me feel violated and hurt as it seemed everything that was wrong in the world was somehow my fault according to the Bull.



This is one of the scorpy's big bug bears - but it seems to be the only way taurus can get her feelings out, i think its because she feels the other person/people will listen whereas he won't, when alone there is silence from both.



Celtic, this is just my experience but maybe it will shed some light. A lot of the time the Bull started little spats in public, I was completely blindsided because I had never heard those complaints before and that really hurt. On the other hand, when we argued in private it was always the same argument we could never resolve and believe me I tried to get to the heart of the matter time and again, but the argument would always go back to the one that we could never resolve.

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Yeah to be honest I have noticed that taurus does this a lot and its getting worse, to the extent that I had to leave their company a couple of weeks ago as I couldn't bear it any longer and was about to tell her to STFU. He has also said that he is completely taken by surprise by some of the things that are brought up as he would know nothing about it beforehand. And yes, its also true for them, they are having the same constant argument in private the whole time - they both talk to me about it, is how i know.
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Posted by Ellybean
That being said, scorp has to take a step up to the plate and be open to trying express himself in a way that works for them. Scorp men are just dreadful with communicating with their partners. Is also recommend stone good old fashioned wooing too. As in he does what he did or would do if they had just met and he was trying to figure our everything about her and keep her attention. Ie get get small surprises like get favorite flowers or a little trinket of something she loves our plan an evening to do her favorite things like her favorite restaurant or something she's been wanting to try. Trying new things for the first time as a couple is a powerful bonding tool.

If there's no extra money for fancy dates, he could try his hand at home cooked meal and decorate the dining room like a restaurant.





Elly the thing is he has semi-tried, really not very hard, I suggested to him a while ago that they should go out on their own at least once a week and get the communication going, so he found the money and did, but he gave up after a couple of weeks as he said, it wasn't progressing, I said he should give it more time, but no he won't. He cooks a good bit and as it was her birthday last week he cooked a family meal (she wouldn't go out for a meal with him on his own as the children wouldn't be there!), myself and another friend went in for a drink later and i'm afraid all taurus kept talking about was the bit of wine that had been spilled while he was cooking, and which wasn't yet cleaned up. I know these things don't bother her as a rule, so its just picking on something he has done, she is obviously unhappy, i've told him this but he is just saying he's given up. That would be fine but these two will stay married. Pointed out to both of them today that if they live into their 80's they have another 40 years together so they better start working out how they are going to work that one out.
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Posted by Ellybean
Also, kids shouldn't be before the marriage. The kids will leave and have their own lives, their own loves and careers. Plus kids notice if they're parents are tense. And their kids being older probably pick up on the details a lot clearer than little ones.

Taur minutes are really some of the most amazing. My boyfriends mom is a taur and my sis is a taur mommy. I see it rarely with my boyfriends mom but then I see it all the time with my sis, the man she built a foundation with gets forgotten and on a yearly basis she says she wants to leave acts like its a done deal but then she calms down and realize she's got a good one.



We have had this discussion a lot over the years, and during the discussion we have all agreed this point, even to the point of wondering at another friend (taurus also 🙂) and her marriage and how the children are always put first. My taurus always speaks of agreement on this, agrees children will grow up and leave etc., but her actions are totally different. But she wasn't always like this, so I think she is turning to her children now as she is unhappy in her marriage.
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Posted by Let*It*Be
"Also, kids shouldn't be before the marriage. The kids will leave and have their own lives, their own loves and careers. Plus kids notice if they're parents are tense."


In order to be good parents and give your kids good direction in life you must have a healthy marriage. Their priority should be fixing the problems of this marriage and the kids witnessing that they are making efforts to fix the problem. If you just blow the marriage off, the kids leave home thinking this is what to expect (behavior wise) in their own marriages/relationships..NOT GOOD! When a couple can't work things out through effort/counseling or whatever it takes, they should split. Healthy for the kids in two ways...not being in a miserable home and witnessing day after day the misery between the two. And secondly, learning to NEVER stay in a bad relationship that you cannot work out.



Completly agree, which is one of the reasons I left my marriage. The kids are witnessing it, mostly the youngest one who I notice is now completely playing them off each other.