Practical and Logical?

I always hear how Bulls are practical and logical people. I have had issues with a bull recently, but thanks to people like @JohnTheBaptist100 I am in a much better place. 🙂

I may not have seemed receptive or grateful to the style of advice at the time, but can assure you a I appreciate it. Even more, now I'm applying it!!! *big tick* Thank you!

NOW THIS!: A friend of mine (female cancerian) working for the same organisation, but in another country (we are global), has broken up with her bull of 2.5 years, and of a different cultural background (obviously). Upon the break up she said, he has told her that he will try and cross-over to Europe by sea, because there is nothing left there for him, he needs a fresh start. ——? I told her I thought this was bullshit and that he just wants attention and a way (perhaps) of getting back together without him doing the asking. Based on past bull experiences... my life is a load o f bulls, that I have yet to understand. :/

HOWEVER!: People in the region of the world she works in, have been known to do this, a lot!...We've all watched the news and seen what could happen... Not good!

That leaves the question: WHY—? Is this practical or logical? Or does practical and logic reasoning only apply to bulls from the first world? Is he (as I suspect) emotionally blackmailing her (do bulls do this?), or is it a case of 'what the bull says, is what the bull means'? If it is the latter, WTF—?

Would a bull make a decision that may involve losing his/her life on an emotional whim? i.e. the break up. What happened to practical and logical? All things considered, this is cray to the CRAY, CRAY...I thought I had it rough! My friend is WhatsApping and Skyping the living daylights out of me, and I just don't know... Roll on end of Venus Retro!!!

I said she should try to talk him down, but if he acts like he doesn't want to hear it. Wish him luck and a bon voyage!!! That's way to heavy to put on someone...

Enlighten me on this shit here somebody. PLEASE!

Posted by Love2Love
I always hear how Bulls are practical and logical people. I have had issues with a bull recently, but thanks to people like @JohnTheBaptist100 I am in a much better place. 🙂

I may not have seemed receptive or grateful to the style of advice at the time, but can assure you a I appreciate it. Even more, now I'm applying it!!! *big tick* Thank you!

NOW THIS!: A friend of mine (female cancerian) working for the same organisation, but in another country (we are global), has broken up with her bull of 2.5 years, and of a different cultural background (obviously). Upon the break up she said, he has told her that he will try and cross-over to Europe by sea, because there is nothing left there for him, he needs a fresh start. ——? I told her I thought this was bullshit and that he just wants attention and a way (perhaps) of getting back together without him doing the asking. Based on past bull experiences... my life is a load o f bulls, that I have yet to understand. :/

HOWEVER!: People in the region of the world she works in, have been known to do this, a lot!...We've all watched the news and seen what could happen... Not good!

That leaves the question: WHY—? Is this practical or logical? Or does practical and logic reasoning only apply to bulls from the first world? Is he (as I suspect) emotionally blackmailing her (do bulls do this?), or is it a case of 'what the bull says, is what the bull means'? If it is the latter, WTF—?

Would a bull make a decision that may involve losing his/her life on an emotional whim? i.e. the break up. What happened to practical and logical? All things considered, this is cray to the CRAY, CRAY...I thought I had it rough! My friend is WhatsApping and Skyping the living daylights out of me, and I just don't know... Roll on end of Venus Retro!!!

I said she should try to talk him down, but if he acts like he doesn't want to hear it. Wish him luck and a bon voyage!!! That's way to heavy to put on someone...

Enlighten me on this shit here somebody. PLEASE!

Where is she based?

Where is he based?

Where does he want to get from/to?

Posted by Redbull
You said people in that region have been known to do that a lot. So it looks like a situation of people seeking better opportunities. I get the issue with the crossing the sea part. I would think if he does it, that he has thought about it and figured thats the best way, considering. Seeking opportunities and to improve your life in another place is not uncommon or inherently a bad idea in and of itself.

I agree with what you say. Especially, "Seeking opportunities and to improve your life in another place is not uncommon or inherently a bad idea in and of itself." He is actually very hardworking from what I've heard and saw, for the one time we met, (I went to visit sometime back).

I'm just really stumped as to the risk involved in crossing the seas in such a dangerous way, which has resulted in tragedy all too often, boats capsizing, bodies floating into the coast... too risky and too much to expect her to deal with!

Posted by JohnTheBaptist100
There could be many reasons...

1) did she break up with him?

2) some bulls will do anything for security and stability

3) a lot of have a risk nature and the optimism to succeed especially if they have sag or fire that is heavy in their natal chart

4) but he may have said this to her to get a response...

5) if he was staying there because of her, he may now decide that now is the time to seek better opportunities now that nothing is holding him back...

1) He threatened to leave and she said 'bye', called his bluff I guess?

2)It seems some bulls will even fuck up a 'good thing' (bearing in mind we don't know what REALLY goes on behind closed doors) seeking for it!

3)Don't know his placements, but he was very hardworking and quite optimistic when I met him. Had some drive to improve himself you know?

4)THIS POINT HERE 100%

5)This is a possibility, but a stretch...He could have done this way before meeting her. Or was something else holding him back then too?

I think he is bullshitting and she should chill, this is not a basis to restart a relationship!!! Give him a week or two and he'll be ringing off her phone and turning up everywhere!!! If not, never mind, pray for journey mercies and move on! I've already told her to come stay with me for Easter.

What he didn't know was in the 4 years that I was with him, I was examining his "habits" ie what made him tick, what subjects would cause an argument etc.

So every time he said he would leave, I would back down.. Until one day (to cut a long story short) I had had enough and had emotionally checked out of our relationship 12 months prior but he was never aware of this...

I wanted to end our relationship but did not know how so I had to set him up so he could trigger it.. I chose a subject which I knew would push that button and it did.. We had a massive argument and he said "that's it I'm leaving". Instead of backing down as I normally would, I replied "good, you have 4 weeks to pack your leave. Your peppercorn rent is not keeping me". Well he was blindsided to say the least....

I never backed down either.. I was prepared to lose. When things had calmed down and he we remained friendly. He asked me why I did what I did.. I replied " how many times did you think you could say "I'm leaving" to my face and get away with it?"...

I am like this as well. Someone once disappointed me once too many times after I gave chances and pointed out things which I wanted improved but that person still kept messing up, so I set up a trigger.

Important thing is he did not understand me while I can read him like a book, just like how you studied your ex Gem for 4 yrs and knew his habits, I knew everything that goes on in that person's life but he knew only a figment about me which is too far from enough.