Taurus making me insecure

hello I'm new here 🙂

I am having a bit of a problem. Im not very good with words (sometimes lol) so sorry if i tend to rumble. Im a saggitarius girl and i've been communicating with a hot taurus guy for more than a year now. It's actually all about lusting for eachother. We live far apart so we havent had the chance to meet. I've read so many posts on here about Taurus men and their disappearing acts and the fact that they are not very verbally expressive. OMG aint that the truth! So glad im not the only one noticing, so i know it's not just me.
Anyway, you would think after such a while, he would open up more. Well, in a way he has, he talks more than way in the beginning, but i am STILL the one contacting him first. Makes me wonder what he really thinks of me or how he sees me. I know he likes me, wants me and thinks i'm hot, because he did say so lots of times during our conversations. I've been really patient with him and i know he's a also the kind of guy you have to tiptoe around and pick your words very carefully. One time he's very enthousiastic in his messages giving me the impression he's really into me, but other times he just ignores what i'm saying or just doesn't feel like responding. What's up with that? I don't get it and it drives me insane!! At first i was fine with the merely sexual thing, but when i try to get a bit more "serious" now it seems like he backs off. As much as i hate to admit...i think i'm feeling more for this guy than just lust. How do i know if he's really into me or if i am just fun to talk to when he's horny? He is just so hard to figure out!

I'm a virgo, but I'm in a relationship with a taurus man. I will tell you from experience that taurus' do a lot of that 'dissapearing act'. Initially they want all your attention, and charm you till you get cavities..but once they feel they 'have you' persay- they begin to relax, and go on about their business, just with you as an addition to their lives.
What I've learned to do is be more patient, and just go with the flow. If I don't hear from him when I expect to, or if he's not giving me the attention I want I simply go on about my business. Also, I'm not as available as I once was. Men Like a little bit of a chase, but always be polite, sensitive, and show that you care. Just don't be so convienent.

If you are always available you are going to kill this relationship. They disappear and do the inconsiderate stuff if they are:

> cheating
> want to make sure that you aren't into them too much because they aren't into you as much
> get bored with you and want to push back or if they have a lot of financial problems.

The charm is just that charm. It has nothing to do with their real and true feelings and you usually don't know about their true feelings for a long while, could take years. Act single until married.

That is what I am still doing and it's working. I may never get married either.

Lot of up and down highs and lows.

They disappear all the time in the beginning and then there is the other stuff. All those games that they play. God love them but they are no easy group of men to understand. Especially not the alpha Taurus males with abandonment issues.

Did I mention the games that they can play week to week?

Everyone knows that the pay off for these men are so good though because when they are real they love you to death and then the smothering comes. And even though now I have a loving man sometimes a cave man that acts like a toddler I still look at him when he starts to yell and become an opinionated know it all about politics or anything else is he really worth it? We will see in 2012 Lol

Posted by MrsJones
hello I'm new here 🙂

I am having a bit of a problem. Im not very good with words (sometimes lol) so sorry if i tend to rumble. Im a saggitarius girl and i've been communicating with a hot taurus guy for more than a year now. It's actually all about lusting for eachother. We live far apart so we havent had the chance to meet. I've read so many posts on here about Taurus men and their disappearing acts and the fact that they are not very verbally expressive. OMG aint that the truth! So glad im not the only one noticing, so i know it's not just me.
Anyway, you would think after such a while, he would open up more. Well, in a way he has, he talks more than way in the beginning, but i am STILL the one contacting him first. Makes me wonder what he really thinks of me or how he sees me. I know he likes me, wants me and thinks i'm hot, because he did say so lots of times during our conversations. I've been really patient with him and i know he's a also the kind of guy you have to tiptoe around and pick your words very carefully. One time he's very enthousiastic in his messages giving me the impression he's really into me, but other times he just ignores what i'm saying or just doesn't feel like responding. What's up with that? I don't get it and it drives me insane!! At first i was fine with the merely sexual thing, but when i try to get a bit more "serious" now it seems like he backs off. As much as i hate to admit...i think i'm feeling more for this guy than just lust. How do i know if he's really into me or if i am just fun to talk to when he's horny? He is just so hard to figure out!

They don't think anything of not responding back. Mentioned this already but a girlfriend of mine dated a Taurus she drove 5 hours to see him he didnt bother to pick up the phone to tell her he couldnt see her. He was sleep and thought that since she was near her family that it'd be no big deal. Some of them don't even think about it that's why they are always called selfish. This is the Taurus men. The Taurus women are nurturing and mothering. They can be disengaged too if you aren't in a relationship. If you think that because your Taurus sister is nice that a male is the same not at all. They feel like they don't owe you nothing if you aren't in a relationship with them. It's not that serious to them. And some of them think that it was nothing needed to be

Oh yup, and to finish the story my girlfriend isn't with him anymore and now he is begging me to talk to her. She hates him. He loves her. He bugs me. He's persistently trying to get her back.

thanks all. I think i am getting a better picture 😉 As far as that's possible with this confusing sign.

I see your point sweetsuccotash, "Initially they want all your attention, and charm you ..but once they feel they 'have you' persay- they begin to relax, and go on about their business" Seems like he gave me the green light that he likes me, but doesn't feel the urge to work on it or something..

And dayssunny, i get you what you mean that he might be afraid i am more into him than he is into me and therefore still keeps me at arm lenght. That stings a little yes, but i get your point. Although i must say that i've had many more of these "disappearing acts" in the early stages. So back then i already thought he might be bored with me or not as much into me as i thought. And that was maybe a year ago. So what does it mean that after such a long time he still talks to me and seems very interested? I mean it was just like a week ago he was being REALLY interested and then i don't hear from him again?! If he was bored with me, wouldn't he have backed off a while ago? Or was he still "observing" me and figuring me out in a very slow pace? I don't know.

And the selfish act? Could be. They might just not see it the way we do when they decide not to react. Still, not considering the feelings of the other seems very selfish to me lol.

MrsJones,
It's seriously selfish. Believe me, I'm a virgo w/ scorp moon and I've analized the crap out of my relationship. Why is he so uninterested in me today? Did I say something? Not pick up the phone fast enough? Not say the right thing in texts? Then there are days when he calls all day with not much to say. What I get from it is that for one- they are men..and men don't think as women do. Add on top of that that these men aren't good at expressing their emotions vocially, and it makes things very difficult. Secondly- They seem perfectly content to do as they wish with no regard to you. Now initially, this may be okay. And the slow pace at which they move might even make you think that you can wait. But there comes a point where you just have to be honest with yourself, and not only question what you think you deserve in a relationship, but what you NEED in a relationship. I'm telling you now, things aren't going to change. He'll expect you to understand his feelings on an intuitive level, and every now and then he might throw you a bone and compliment you, or make you feel special. That's what keeps most women holding on..because they're waiting for something more. But in my personal opinion the woman is the one that should be chased, not the man..and I'm personally tired of chasing after mine. I want/ need that attention that he's not giving me, and I get so frustrated sometimes. I don't know if he'll ever understand this.

Him not feeling you as much doesn't mean not at all. They are just real practical signs. Don't get upset. He doesnt determine your worth anyway. just dont crowd him.

Posted by cutiebullie
Based on my experience with a taurus guy, yes they do love playing all those crazy stupid childish games. All that flirting lusty crap but it doesnt mean anything to them. Leave him alone that's all i can say, unless you want to play his game?

ok glad you came in here because I felt like I was being too blunt. I didnt want to dash any hopes but that's been my experience too. It really doesn't mean anything to them even them taking the time to call or any of that, that's part of the play if they are still in lust mode. And I can't even really say it better than cutebullie. When we as women do something it really means something When Taurus men in particular do something they can separate it as just a game. It's like an arcade game. I dont know how else to really put it without dashing any dreams.

Posted by sweetsuccotash
MrsJones,
It's seriously selfish. Believe me, I'm a virgo w/ scorp moon and I've analized the crap out of my relationship. Why is he so uninterested in me today? Did I say something? Not pick up the phone fast enough? Not say the right thing in texts? Then there are days when he calls all day with not much to say. What I get from it is that for one- they are men..and men don't think as women do. Add on top of that that these men aren't good at expressing their emotions vocially, and it makes things very difficult. Secondly- They seem perfectly content to do as they wish with no regard to you. Now initially, this may be okay. And the slow pace at which they move might even make you think that you can wait. But there comes a point where you just have to be honest with yourself, and not only question what you think you deserve in a relationship, but what you NEED in a relationship. I'm telling you now, things aren't going to change. He'll expect you to understand his feelings on an intuitive level, and every now and then he might throw you a bone and compliment you, or make you feel special. That's what keeps most women holding on..because they're waiting for something more. But in my personal opinion the woman is the one that should be chased, not the man..and I'm personally tired of chasing after mine. I want/ need that attention that he's not giving me, and I get so frustrated sometimes. I don't know if he'll ever understand this.

I agree w/you. Just keep letting him chase you. It's the sun and moon type of thing. They have no regard of you or anyone at that stage of selfishness. It's like a toddler stage. Someone on here or I read it somewhere else said that they want their food they want their stuff and that's it. You almost have to coach them on thinking that the world doesn't revolve around them. Aries the sign that was before them the men are worse. My girlfriends all of us, a tight knit group we've got some stories for each sign. Men in general are selfish, hardwired. But you hit the head on the nail they seem to be hardwired to behave like this even more. I get so frustrated with myself and my girlfriends when we sit around pondering about how we can make them happy and then we stop and realize they aren't doing the same. Be free and elusive and they will chase you. Most women want the stuff underneath but if they aren't ev

Posted by MrsJones


And dayssunny, i get you what you mean that he might be afraid i am more into him than he is into me and therefore still keeps me at arm lenght. That stings a little yes, but i get your point. Although i must say that i've had many more of these "disappearing acts" in the early stages. So back then i already thought he might be bored with me or not as much into me as i thought. And that was maybe a year ago. So what does it mean that after such a long time he still talks to me and seems very interested? I mean it was just like a week ago he was being REALLY interested and then i don't hear from him again?! If he was bored with me, wouldn't he have backed off a while ago? Or was he still "observing" me and figuring me out in a very slow pace? I don't know.

Right now until he explicitly tells you that he wants a relationship and if he rushes too soon I'd be leery because you already established a sexual theme, then don't pay attention to him like that. Treat him like a friend. He's interested but what's interest? I am interested in changing the channel but I may or may not. Don't get emotionally invested is all that I am saying. He could be bored with you or anyone it's not about you it's just his attention span and where he wants to be in his life. But he could be bored with you in chunks of time and then backs off. They are overall good I am just being realistic and I can only tell you from what I saw hon. I dont want you disappointed or stung. They play games. That's all I am saying.

well i appreciate your opinions 🙂
And i guess much of it is very true.
I hate being the one chasing...but yet he is kinda worth the chase as well and he seems to react to it everytime. But probably just because it's stroking his ego lol. And at this point I really feel like ignoring him now, just to see if he comes to me. But maybe I am kinda scared that he doesn't. And I've read somewhere here also that that doesn't help the situation either, if you stop being consistent. I'm weak I know 😢 And just when i told myself from the beginning not to fall in the emotional trap again. I actually liked the game at first..
If i wish to continue to play his game and keep him interested, i'll have to try to switch that emo-button 🙂
The big question for me is just wether it's worth persuing or not.

i get your point. that's why I think I hate men lol

yeah men are jerks!! lol. But as they say- you have to kiss a dozen frogs before you find your prince. I just hope mines got a nice johnson. wait..what? :O
And it's only by finding out what you don't like that you find what you do like. With all that being said, us women put up with a lot!!

Posted by cutiebullie
it's all about just these men flirting.... that's all there is.

I think this quote above is what I was trying to drive home to you she keeps saying it better and I am glad. These men don't have an emotional button triggered based on their interaction with you. You know how most people when you are around them and they flirt for a purpose because they want to get to know you, this isn't the case with them? Or if they interact it's because they want to be around you, this isn't the case with them. They can be master politicians with whoever they are with. These people, Taurus men, interact because they just want the ego boost. Immature Taurus men are like this. I've seen the maturity growth with my man but I even question is it worth it from time to time. If I could just drive this home, they play with people just for the hell of it, I'd feel like I am helping the girls movement. Lol They are not emotionally invested even if they pay attention to you. That's strange isn't it? But I promise you it's the truth. I don't know cutebullie from anyone on here, but I know that she's telling the truth from 5+ yrs experience. I learned this the hard way girlies I am telling you. Forget about arguing with them because they just dig in their heels and they either hope that you will forget it and move on or they act like it didnt even happen. They play with people's feelings like an Xbox game when the love isn't fully there.

MrsJones the problem is deep down you know that he probably isn't ready so you keep feeding him with the hopes you can make him invest as much as you want to. Got to let go kiddo. Taurus and consistency Lol I read that here. But you know what consistency got me? Taken for granted and being cheated on in the early stages of our relationship. I think the forum members are right about Taurus being consistent and loyal but that isn't shown till later. And they do like stability when you are married to them or in a committed relationship. Right now you'd have to not have any feelings and know that you are among a herd of women if you want to play his game right now. If he's doing this disappearance act flirting right now is nothing to them. Paying attention to you is like paying attention to a fan in the crowd of their concert. They do it because they want to keep their fans. Taurus like to hoard and they like things easy even though they want things hard so you are there so do you think he'd totally cut you off? You are one of his fans. Determine if he is worth it. I felt like mine was because he ended up being a good friend to me and so much other stuff like an excellent father to his daughters. But it's times that I question the relationship, I'd be lying to you and myself if I said that there wasnt. Me and cutebullie both can't be wrong Lol

Posted by sweetsuccotash
yeah men are jerks!! lol. But as they say- you have to kiss a dozen frogs before you find your prince. I just hope mines got a nice johnson. wait..what? :O
And it's only by finding out what you don't like that you find what you do like. With all that being said, us women put up with a lot!!

we put up with too much Lol I hope he does for your sake too. Well hope we all get some closure either way keep defining boundaries it's a work in progress I am working on myself now

Posted by MrsJones
hello I'm new here 🙂

I am having a bit of a problem. Im not very good with words (sometimes lol) so sorry if i tend to rumble. Im a saggitarius girl and i've been communicating with a hot taurus guy for more than a year now. It's actually all about lusting for eachother. We live far apart so we havent had the chance to meet. I've read so many posts on here about Taurus men and their disappearing acts and the fact that they are not very verbally expressive. OMG aint that the truth! So glad im not the only one noticing, so i know it's not just me.
Anyway, you would think after such a while, he would open up more. Well, in a way he has, he talks more than way in the beginning, but i am STILL the one contacting him first. Makes me wonder what he really thinks of me or how he sees me. I know he likes me, wants me and thinks i'm hot, because he did say so lots of times during our conversations. I've been really patient with him and i know he's a also the kind of guy you have to tiptoe around and pick your words very carefully. One time he's very enthousiastic in his messages giving me the impression he's really into me, but other times he just ignores what i'm saying or just doesn't feel like responding. What's up with that? I don't get it and it drives me insane!! At first i was fine with the merely sexual thing, but when i try to get a bit more "serious" now it seems like he backs off. As much as i hate to admit...i think i'm feeling more for this guy than just lust. How do i know if he's really into me or if i am just fun to talk to when he's horny? He is just so hard to figure out!

MRSJones?

wtf—

Honestly, i get what you're all saying. And i appreciate the concerns 🙂
i know i come across very doubtfull and yes i said im insecure. But i also trust my intuitions. Of course there's more to the whole story than what i've already told. I was just curious about y'alls opinions. Dont't worry to much you're bashing my dreams.
I know i learned more about Taureans by reading here and there. Trust me i've done my homework 😉
So yeah they can be players and have a flirty nature. What else is new? But what i havent read much here is that Taureans are also very romantic souls and slow to trust. Slow in everything as a matter of fact except for making that first move, after that the ball is totally on your side lol! But seriously, i know for a fact this is true. They might seem huge players or cheaters and maybe lot of them are, but they have a mostly hidden desire for romance and want to be persued and above all wanted and be desired themselves. That's why they are these kind of attention seekers.
I don't wanna sound ignorant or naive. If he's just flirting without any other meaning than ok, so be it 🙂 i guess there will be a time i can accept that.
But just to assume there is absolutely no emotion..im not sure about that just yet. Some of you make em sound like some emotionless beings. While i have heard they are very romantic sensitive souls also. Guess it's part of the game to find out. I haven't lost all hope in Taureans just yet. Hey don't call saggitarius a positive thinker for nothing! Lol 😉
And like i already said, my thing has been going on for quite some time now. Just wondering if these Bulls can actually keep "flirting" with the same person for 2 years if there is absolutely no emotion and no further interest. If that was the case i assume he would've been bored with me by now. Or do they actually need years to observe and make up their minds? Besides that i don't believe Bulls are really that bored easily,(Geminis are 😉)
otherwise they would'nt take their time with things so long. That statement just doen't make sense to me.

Anyways, just like to analyze and debate 🙂 (altho it's the analyzing that's driving me nuts sometimes...i can't make up my mind lol)

wow i use alot of smilies lol sorry.

oh yeah, and i read alot of advices on other posts on here also to "just give up" or play less available. But something tells me that'll only backfire with these Bulls. Remember they tend to be insecure and just not very verbally expressive. Plus they like to be chased and seduced. I read everywhere here that they are chasers because they flirt but other horoscope descriptions tell they are not of the chasing kind. If you stay away they might think you've lost interest in them. Quoting a post from another thread: I'm sure he's gonna take this as a rejection and looks elsewhere. Just not ready to give up just yet.

MRSJones?

wtf—






never heard of the song? look it up!

@Mrs Jones: The main issue here is that you have not met each other yet. So it is more of a flirting thing on his part. Taurus men need to be with a woman in every sense to fall for her. How far away is he? Do you think you will meet him soon?

**also, I know the song "Me and Mrs Jones" and I love that song!

cutiebullie

A lot of them, women, do this self deluding. That's why Taurean males can continue to have so many women around them because they settle for trinkets of affection such as he smiled at me everyday for two years straight. This only reinforces immature Taurean males bad behavior. And they continue to only flirt because they get temporary gratification from someone who is hanging on their every word. Ego boost. It's sad. We haven't discussed anything romantic about them which they are because you are no where near that phase yet. You haven't even scratched the surface of his romantic side because he is dangling you on like a carrot. Bull whisperer needed for this one. Nothing but flirting, no connection nothing else. She is going to try to prove us wrong. For her sake and the womens' movement I hope we are wrong Lol. Nope there is no tangible proof. There are plenty of reinforcing agents on the mature Taurus all sprinkled throughout this site. We are trying to identify and help you know when you don't have a mature one. Done with helping this one.

Posted by cutiebullie
oh, and you know why this is becoming toooo confusing to you? - because you keep looking for words that you want to hear - ONLY the words that you want to hear.

how about doing what you want to do instead?

That's it. We aren't saying that he wants her because he has to want her after 2 years of just flirting.

Posted by cutiebullie
Well then go ahead and keep on chasing him, you won't be confused by doing this. Pursue him and seduce him, cage him so he won't feel insecure too, this way you won't push the man who loves you away 😛

This is what she will keep doing because she initiates everything.

Posted by dayssunny
cutiebullie

A lot of them, women, do this self deluding. That's why Taurean males can continue to have so many women around them because they settle for trinkets of affection such as he smiled at me everyday for two years straight. This only reinforces immature Taurean males bad behavior. And they continue to only flirt because they get temporary gratification from someone who is hanging on their every word. Ego boost. It's sad. We haven't discussed anything romantic about them which they are because you are no where near that phase yet. You haven't even scratched the surface of his romantic side because he is dangling you on like a carrot. Bull whisperer needed for this one. Nothing but flirting, no connection nothing else. She is going to try to prove us wrong. For her sake and the womens' movement I hope we are wrong Lol. Nope there is no tangible proof. There are plenty of reinforcing agents on the mature Taurus all sprinkled throughout this site. We are trying to identify and help you know when you don't have a mature one. Done with helping this one.

wow... Im sure you are absolutely right as you sound like you have so much experience with these kind of men. How many is that exactly?
One thing straight. I am not "deluded". I came here to share opinions..and who knows, make friends. Whatever. I can handle the truth,
but you sound very bitter. Some Bull must have hurt you bad that it left a scar, no?
Anyway i was not trying to prove anyone wrong. I sure would'nt dare to prove YOU wrong as you seem to know it all best.
Just thought id come here to share experiences. Not to be called out a sad case. No thanks.

Oh and for the record, i know another Taurus guy that is totally not like the way they are being generalized here. Of course not all men are the same.
But thanks for all the advise though. I think i got my info.

Hi MrsJones,
I hope I didn't insult you with my posts regarding this matter, but believe me I'm in the same situation your facing now. Of course not all men are the same, but I find it strange that a lot of the taurus men I know share some basic characteristics, and that is why I'm on here now. Not only that, but I've learned a lot about me personally as a Virgo. Things I thought were only my strange habits. But anways- back to the topic at hand.
I've been in a 'commited relationship' with my taurus guy for about 6 months. I put commited relationship in quotations because it doesn't feel like much of a relationship to me.
These men are a bit fictitious, and yes they LOVE to have their ego stroked. Who doesn't, right? But the problem lies in the fact that the immature taurus men cannot see past their own wants/needs to empathize with a partner in a relationship. They come first, period. They want their cake and eat it too.
Even though we're in a relationship I'm still waiting for a level of emotional commitment that has yet to surface, and I'm afraid I'll keep on waiting.
I've decided for myself that I not only deserve better, but I NEED more from a relationship. I'm tired of questioning how he feels, if I'm saying the right things, yadda yadda...
If you're willing to continue the relationship, by all means go for it. It's your life, and your choice, and I wish you the best. I just hope you don't get hurt in the process. 🙂

No sweetsuccatash, you did not insult me 🙂
i know where you're coming from. Honestly i understand how you must feel. You already are IN a relationship and of course you deserve to know where you at. If you're in a serious commitment you expect him to show more emotion and stuff. I am only just in the early stage!
Anyway, i mean to say i know i hardly know the guy. But that's just my point here. I am trying to figure him out and i was only wondering if it is "normal" for Taurus men to keep you on a leash for so long. Just like so many on here are wondering it seems. Well, maybe not all, some of you here seem to know exactly how they roll lol
And you're not hurting my feelings for putting it out there either. I know not all men and not Bulls are the same. Im just getting mixed signals from mine and i just really like the guy too much to give it up just yet. I'm having fun so far, just not sure what his intentions are yet. Like i already said, getting mixed signals, but he seems to enjoy communicating with me and things are heating up only on a very slow pace. Maybe it's just that, he's just having fun with me...or maybe there will be more eventually, i don't know. But is it so bad of me to have just a tiny little faith? Lol saggis are not easy quitters 😉
I just don't like being called out for being deluded..wtf? My confusion is what brought me here yes. And i appreciate advice...although i know i will eventually find out myself what to think of the whole situation and i'll soon get my own conclusions 🙂

Find a cute Leo or Virgo ...someone who will appreciate you

Jesus ladys...!

MrsJones, yes you are the one that's very deluded. I am in a relationship with a human Taurus who has positive and negatives. I shared the negatives. I am with him so obviously the positives are currently outweighing the negatives. Unlike you, I don't have to wonder if he likes me or not because he and I live together and he comes homes to me every night and has proposed to me not once not twice but thrice. You are in dreamworld lady. You think that because he is flirting with you online that he loves you. Taurus men have to feel and touch you and know you before they commit. I gave you the nice version and then the not so nice version. You want people to suggest to you that he is secretly in love with you but too shy to talk yet not shy enough to ask you to sleep with him or get sexy. You are sad. And too bad someone didn't tell you that sooner. I am not bitter I am honest. I am a libra and we weigh the facts. Your facts dont check out to love or even like more like a man viewing a porno, they can't marry the leading lady of that porn flick and most don't marry the stripper at the bar. Men think differently. And no I dont know it all that's why I gravitated to this forum but I have sense enough to listen to others who are in that situation or know more than me. You are in a place of wanting to be lied to. That's ok too Lol I didn't mean to come off crash and tried to say it nice but it's only for so long that I could type to you without being upfront.

Posted by cutiebullie
LOL for two years you still don't know what the guy's intention is the fact that he flirts with you whenever he's horny—?? LOL

good luck!!!

That right there is all I need to say on this thread too. Good luck with that!

LOL! No no no.... Sorry you understand me all wrong! I don't need to hear he's in love with me. I didn't say anything about LOVE..geesus.
I did say im feeling more that just all lust and feel more interest, but he's not my prince charming or "The One". I like the flirting/sexing too. All that what was confusing is why he can keep up the flirting for so long and if it's normal with these guys that they can be so hot and cold. All i was wondering is what his intentions are. Ok so i know alittle bit more about them bulls. Thanks for the advice. But AGAIN, no need to call me deluded. Im NOT trying to prove anyone wrong. I already said im not good at explaining. But sorry if i admit i do fancy the guy because he's just hot and funny and that it makes me wonder what he's all about.
Ok case closed. No drama needed. *holding up a white flag*. im just gonna continue minding my business without him. And use him as my bootycall like he does with me and try to keep love out of the picture 😛 it's all good.

They are like that. They go hot and cold until they commit. I am blunt. I will use a synonym for deluded: in a dream like state. Lol I'd say this to any of my best girlfriends in the same way. But I don't expect you to take my advice as golden because I dont know you or him. But if a lot of us are holding up red flags then maybe we are trying to help. What scared me is that you said you thought you had to keep at it until he transformed. What you need to do is stop so he can come to you without fear. It's hard but try it. Good luck seriously and I am not being sarcastic. Wish you the best but just dont have rose colored glasses is what I think we are all saying. And it's as good as yesterday this topic. I dont hold grudges in real life and def not on a forum

TAURUS
INSECURE
I used to be indecisive but now I'M just not sure.

FUCKING PUSSES