Midheaven is Image/Style/Attitude

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Atleast this is what I've come to believe recently. I was looking at some celebrity charts recently and noticed something, I noticed that some celebrities who had their Midheaven in Scorpio, actually look like what you think a Scorpio would look like (Dark and Gloomy with a Commanding Look) or could possibly even be overall "Attitude" of a person. (Examples such as Trent Reznor, Jim Morrison, Monica Belluci, Jesus Christ)

I've also noticed that people with Midheaven in Taurus are very attractive people with good fashion sense (Marilyn Monroe, Johnny Depp, Jessica Alba) and the same for Midheaven in Libra (Princess Diana, Paris Hilton, Catherine Zeta Jones, Jude Law)

My Midheaven is in Libra, and I can tell you for sure that I have this compulsion to constantly look presentable, charming and clean cut. I'm a little too obsessed with what other people think of me and how they see me.

Also people with Midheaven in any of the Fire signs seem to be in some sort of "Power" or atleast crave power (Adolph Hitler, The Anti-Christ, George W. Bush)

I definitely think Midheaven is very underrated and has a huge effect on us. What do you guys think?
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They usually attribute Image (or the way people see you) to your Rising Sign, but I've noticed it more in Midheaven than Ascendant. Who knows, maybe i'm wrong, but i'm more convinced that idheaven is your Image/ style /Attitude more than your Rising Sign is.

Interestingly enough, I found this which could possibly confirm my suspicions

"Midheaven in Libra: You've got a polished, sociable public persona that allows you to make good connections. You project an image of fairness and flexibility."

That's pretty much how I described myself earlier. Hmmm...

If anyone knows their Midheaven, feel free to share (Obviously you need to know your exact birth time to get it)
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I just found this great little article on the Midheaven which explains everything i've been saying so far

"What I have always found to be accurate is that the M.C. shows qualities that others pick up on and perceive in us--the way others would probably describe us--because we project these qualities whether or not we actually have them; I have also found that the M.C. represents qualities that we are learning to have the confidence to project to others. As such it indicates personal qualities and character traits that one must grow into during one's life. It is also thus one of the most reliable, though not necessarily the most major, indications of life purpose. The M.C., therefore, is much more of a mask that one deliberately wears in public life, rather than the Ascendant (which is often called a mask), because the Ascendant is more like one's face, than one's mask. The Ascendant does not run as deep as the Sun and Moon, but is certainly not as superficial as a mask."
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i agree, the midheaven is rather under-rated. It is part of the 4 major (most strongest) angles in your chart, and very important too ..

(Public/Private Image Axis .. 10th & 4th Houses)

Capricorn on the 10th House Cusp MC (Midheaven), Cancer on the 4th House Cusp (IC): You look like a career person. You appear to be the boss or at least the bossy type. You may seem serious, conventional and demanding of others' respect. People may not easily approach you in public, even at social gatherings and parties. But, with Cancer on the 4th House cusp, your private nature is sensitive, protective.. And, you can take care of yourself. But, no one knows this unless they have the opportunity or the self-confidence to get close to you..

it's kind of wierd, normally i would have an aquarian midheaven with Taurus Rising, but because i have (intercepted) houses & save for the 4 major angles, most house cusps subsequently follow the same as an Aries Riser..
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Yes, it is, ewe .. It could be said that the Midheaven sign represents our life goal; the ascendant sign represents our way of (achieving) that goal, or our unconscious strategy for attaining it.

Pisces Midheaven: Often to be found working tirelessly in the background. Exceptional counselling abilities. Needs variety. Typical career routes include the caring professions (particularly the most emotionally demanding ones), work with the disadvantaged, the music industry, anything artistic, the wine trade, the sea or fishing industries, plumbing, the church, poet or author, the navy.

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I like these explinations the best...

Aries in The 10-th House
With Mars, the planet of action, determination, drive and ambition the native's natural energy is directed to the career, and in this area of his/her life the native is not afraid to compete and charge out ahead of the pack. The native is geared to fight for his/her ambitions and a position in the world. He/she will also suffer much severe competition from those above him/her until he/she can force them out of the situation, which he/she needs for him/herself. This is inevitable. This sense of aggressive competition is music to his/her personality. The native is likely to acquire a reputation for dirty fighting.

Taurus in The 10-th House
Venus found in the tenth house inspires artistic leanings in the chosen career. Art, theater, and music are apt to be important parts of the native's social life or public image. This person should also capitalize on his/her personality. He/she should find some way to sell attractiveness (beauty aids), happiness and the comforts that help in this direction. The native should eventually be celebrated as a beauty or beautifier.

Gemini in The 10-th House
There is a possibility of fame through writing. The native must certainly devote a great deal of conscious effort to creative expression that has career recognition possibilities. The Mercury in the tenth house could be in Capricorn, Aquarius or Pisces, any of which is possible as a significant breakthrough that could capture a wide audience. The Capricorn Mercury would be more solid and respectable.

Cancer in The 10-th House
The native is again subject to the filter treatment, which is also evident in the fourth and seventh house positions of the moon. This time the controlling agent is those in command who stand above the native in authority, and this influences the recognition or acknowledgment he/she will receive. This involves the goals and ambitions, which make him/her sensitive to following the dictates of those whom he/she senses will in some way affect his/her outcome. The native is likely to have a good feel on the pulse of public whims and desires.
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Leo in The 10-th House
This sign's influence in the tenth house denotes strong professional ambitions. Native takes pride in his/her standing in the world. The Sun rules Leo, and when the Sun has dominance on the Midheaven (tenth house), the ego, executive ability, and leadership potential are all emphasized. Public recognition is all important and native must be sure the ego does not get out of hand. If his/her maintains a proper perspective, he/she is likely to get a position of leadership and authority, and be admired for his/her accomplishments. The native is happiest running his/her own business.

Virgo in The 10-th House
The native's critical faculties are made the object of conscious ambitions. The native is far more selective and self-determined as to exactly what goals he/she will follow and the detailed assignment he/she will accept. The course is for ABSOLUTE PERFECTION in all matters. Such people may prefer to find employment in a large, well-established organization such as civil service, a church, or an educational institution.

Libra in The 10-th House
Libra placed in the tenth house indicates entering a business or a profession with a partner, or any type of project in cooperation with others. The native is usually favored for some degree of success and recognition that relates directly back to the native's charm and personality. This distinction which the native earns may not last forever, but it assures him/her of above-average conditions surrounding his/her ambitions.

Scorpio in The 10-th House
The native places him/herself at the disposal of someone in command or control of a situation who is also committed to instrumenting significant changes. The native does his/her bidding as agent or employee. This person acknowledges others as his/her masters until he/she is able to step forth in some degree of leadership.
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Sagittarius in The 10-th House
The native is fortunate in life and receives a degree of distinction and fame, which brings profit and honors. A good deal of travel is likely to be associated with the native's career. He/she may have more than one career in his/her lifetime as it is important for the native continuously to feel a sense of challenge if he/she is to be successful.

Capricorn in The 10-th House
Saturn, ruling Capricorn, is the natural ruler of this house. Saturn's influence here denotes a very strong sense of duty, an attitude of dedication. With this dedication comes a high degree of pressure and responsibility. This position of Saturn ensures that eventually the native will receive some degree of success and recognition for his/her long and heavy labors. The native is deeply ambitious, although he/she is painfully slow about putting these goals into effective operation. One would wonder at times if he/she would ever really make it. The native wants to be almost overly sure of him/herself before the public eye.

Aquarius in The 10-th House
Uranus, the ruler of Aquarius, is the planet of change, freedom, humanity, and rebellion. The native with Uranus in the tenth house may have new and ingenious ideas to present the public. He/she is a team player and function well as a part of the team. The native is also assured of a unique place in life which is in some sense tailor-made for his/her own personality. The native seems obviously destined for the final outcome, which comes suddenly. The native comes under the influence of unusual people who exercise great authority over his/her affairs. The native becomes their follower until he/she eventually invents something on his/her own.

Pisces in The 10-th House
The native is ambitious but not for him/herself alone. He/she hopes for power and influence so that he/she might reveal to others the framework which he/she so devoutly accepts for him/herself. Somehow the native feels the necessity for some position of power and influence in order to reach effectively those he/she wants most. In the beginning this person is drawn to some spiritual leader who opens doors for him/her within him/herself. Eventually the native aspires to do this on his/her own for others. With Neptune ruling the career, there is also a need to be practical. When accessing career choices, the native should avoid a natural tendency to deceive him/herself and become unreasonable.
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Capricorn on The 10-th House (cusp)
Saturn's influence here denotes a very strong sense of duty, an attitude of dedication. With this dedication comes a high degree of pressure and responsibility. This position of Saturn ensures that eventually the native will receive some degree of success and recognition for his/her long and heavy labors. The native is deeply ambitious, although he/she is painfully slow about putting these goals into effective operation. One would wonder at times if he/she would ever really make it. The native wants to be almost overly sure of him/herself before the public eye.

This one reads alot like planet venus inside the 10th. Planets inside the 10th H & ANY major aspects, also adds greatly to public image and or career potentials.

Planet (Venus) found inside the tenth house inspires artistic leanings in the chosen career. Art, theater, and music are apt to be important parts of the native's social life or public image. This person should also capitalize on his/her personality. He/she should find some way to sell attractiveness (beauty aids), happiness and the comforts that help in this direction. The native should eventually be celebrated as a beauty or beautifier.

For me, both are very accurate descriptions..
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For anyone else who also has a Cap midheaven:

Capricorn Midheaven & career choices: Very ambitious for status, rather than necessarily for money. Quintessential self-made businessman. Typical career routes include self employment, politics, estate agency, engineering, exploration industry, dentistry, sculpting, civil service, stock broking.

These folks are careful, patient, and fair. This gives them an air off authority that others trust and respect. They take themselves and their work very seriously and don't jump into things blindly. (Very true for me!) They can be so focused that they may seem like they're ignoring others, causing others to think the Capricorn Midheaven doesn't care about them. But they do.

People with this Midheaven are all about accomplishing significant personal and global work. They are reliable and responsible, seldom without a project. They fully intend to meet any goal they set. They need a career that offers structure within which they can see clear signs of progress. They never give up unless they reach a total impasse. Long after others have quit, Capricorn Midheaven is still going strong.
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Capricorn on the 10th House Cusp, Cancer on the 4th House Cusp: You look like a career person. You appear to be the boss or at least the bossy type. You may seem serious, conventional and demanding of others' respect. People can not easily approach you in public, even at social gatherings and parties. But, with Cancer on the 4th House cusp, your private nature is sensitive, protective and motherly, or at least parental. You like family and kids, and they don't have to be your own. And, you can take care of yourself. But, no one knows this unless they have the opportunity or the self-confidence to get close to you.

Hmmm.
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My midheaven is in Libra but I don't dress anywhere as good as most people. Hell, whatever hasn't been thrown into the laundry hamper or doesn't have a stain on it is good enough for me.

Would you agree however that you have this need to want to please/charm strangers and people in general? I'm the complete opposite in person than I am here on the internet or at home around family. When i'm out in public, I try to be the nicest, most kind, charming guy alive. I'm always extremely polite and always have a smile on my face. But when i'm at home or when i'm in my own privacy, I feel more like my 4th house sign (Aries), i'm bossy, moody and constantly negative or angry over something and I have an extremely short temper.

This is why i'm like that on the Internet, because i'm anonymous and am not talking to you people in person. I finally have a place where I can be my real "inner self" and share my real feelings on the world.
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I thought for the hell of it i'd post some Celebrity Midheavens as Examples (Since Midheaven is Image/ style and the way you present yourself) so it would be interesting to see how each Celebrity with the same Midheaven possibly carries themselves the same way. Also fun to compare yourself to celebrities who share your Midheaven.

Aries (The Bossy/Leader type)

Angelina Jolie
Julia Roberts
George W. Bush
Al Pacino
Jack Nicholson
Meryl Streep
Cameron Diaz
Mariah Carey
Celine Dion
Alanis Morissette
Tobey Maguire
John Travolta
Alfred Hitchcock
Stephen King

Taurus (The Beautiful People)

Johnny Depp
Marilyn Monroe
Jessica Alba
Sharon Stone
Uma Thurman
Robert Downey Jr.
Justin Timberlake
Katie Holmes
Donald Trump
Eddie Murphy
Ashley Judd
Liv Tyler

Gemini (Unique and Strange)

Madonna
Kurt Cobain
Paul McCartney
Tom Cruise
Keanu Reeves
Bruce Willis
Tom Hanks
Patrick Swayze
Kevin Costner
John Malkovich
Tiger Woods

Cancer (The Sensitive/Caring type)

Leonardo DiCaprio
Britney Spears
Michael Jackson
Jennifer Lopez
Jennifer Aniston
Harrison Ford
Denzel Washington
Kate Winslet
Halle Berry
Bill Clinton
John McCain

Leo (The "Self-Important" type)

Adolf Hitler
Nicole Kidman
Clint Eastwood
Frank Sinatra
Cary Grant
Katharine Hepburn
Jim Carrey
Robin Williams
Jennifer Love Hewitt
Courtney Love
Prince

Virgo (The "Clean/Straight Laced" type)

Brad Pitt
Elvis Presley
Marlon Brando
James Dean
Bette Davis
Edward Norton
Bruce Lee
Gwen Stefani
Keith Richards
Bjork
Tori Amos
Bob Marley

Libra (Eager to Please and Charm others)

Princess Diana
Mother Teresa
Oprah Winfrey
Paris Hilton
Jodie Foster
Sylvester Stallone
Nicolas Cage
Carmen Electra
Winona Ryder
Catherine Zeta Jones
Sean Penn
Jude Law
Jimi Hendrix
Bob Dylan

Scorpio (Dark, Mysterious and Sexy)

Jesus Christ
Monica Bellucci
Russell Crowe
Sean Connery
Anthony Hopkins
Dustin Hoffman
Pierce Brosnan
Matt Damon
Barack Obama
Jim Morrison
Bono
Trent Reznor
Lucy Lawless
Meg Ryan
Alicia Silverstone

Sagittarius (Charming, Seductive type)

The Anti-Christ
George Clooney
Demi Moore
Audrey Hepburn
Robert Redford
Gwyneth Paltrow
Christina Aguilera
Whitney Houston
David Bowie
Johnny Cash
Matt Dillon
Teri Hatcher
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Capricorn (The "Serious" type)

John Lennon
Barbra Streisand
Sigourney Weaver
Heather Locklear
Jon Voight
Shakira
Sheryl Crow
George Washington
George Lucas
Bo Derek
Shaquille O'Neal
Jerry Seinfeld

Aquarius (The "Free Spirits")

Martin Luther King Jr.
Michael Jordan
Pamela Anderson
Michelle Pfieffer
Mick Jagger
Bruce Springsteen
Milla Jovovich
Drew Barrymore
Burt Reynolds
Juliette Lewis
Tommy Lee Jones
Charlie Sheen

Pisces (The "Creative/Dreamer" types)

Arnold Schwarzenegger
Robert Deniro
Ben Affleck
Mel Gibson
Gary Oldman
Matthew McConaughey
Mark Wahlberg
Cindy Crawford
Hillary Clinton
Steven Spielberg
Cher
Sandra Bullock
David Beckham
William Shakespear
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To be honest I'm not much of a people-pleaser in public or in private. I usually stick to my guns on anything. But people have told me that I'm a "glue" guy or that in every situation that comes to pass people always refer to me to be a mediator of sorts or the guy in the middle. I also speak of seeking balance in practically everything. I guess, astrologically speaking, my midheaven gives off an image or an aura of balance and fairness. But realistically speaking, what you describe in your previous post is something most people do. People want to please others and get into their good graces because, well, good stuff comes from being nice to others. It's just good karma. People will always react differently in public and in private. With myself I try to stay true to who I am as a core in both aspects of life.
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Noticing my favorite modern day author *Stephen King* is on the (Aries-Midheaven). He certainly and couragously pioneers his own literary path, forging straight ahead, as always. Going places that others may fear, as he ever meticulously (virgo sun) expresses through his MANY expanded horror novels. He obviously does love to discover and challenge himself, unimpeded and autonomous, NO matter the challenge that lay ahead, which highly reflects the deeper meaning of this Arian MC public house of career and (outer) persona/motivation. (and why am i not surprised, guessing he must have a few planets in his 3rd House. Three planets are inside his 3rd, including benefic Venus, mysterious, imaginative Neptune & Mercury in it's own natural house-hence all mental faculties shine! Plus a showy Leo ASC with Pluto, Saturn inside the 1st ..wow!

(i'm thorougly impressed too, how he came back after that major car accident while walking.) GO MISTA KING!! =)

Stephen King's car accident
At 16:30 on June 19, 1999 Stephen King was struck by a car, whilst walking on the right shoulder of Route 5, in Center Lovell, Maine. The driver of the car had become distracted by his dog. The car hit King, and he landed 4 meters from the pavement. King suffered a collapsed lung, multiple fractures of the right leg, scalp laceration, and a broken hip. He left hospital three weeks later. Several of Kings stories prior to his accident has involved car accidents. However, Dreamcatcher, written after the accident, features a character who suffers similar injuries to King's.

:Stephen King is the best selling novelist in the world, and the most financially successful horror writer in history.

..btw, thx for the all interesting posts on mids, AS!
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i agree, the midheaven is rather under-rated. It is part of the 4 major (most strongest) angles in your chart, and very important too ..

(Public/Private Image Axis .. 10th & 4th Houses)

Capricorn on the 10th House Cusp MC (Midheaven), Cancer on the 4th House Cusp (IC): You look like a career person. You appear to be the boss or at least the bossy type. You may seem serious, conventional and demanding of others' respect. People may not easily approach you in public, even at social gatherings and parties. But, with Cancer on the 4th House cusp, your private nature is sensitive, protective.. And, you can take care of yourself. But, no one knows this unless they have the opportunity or the self-confidence to get close to you..



Interesting. So, does that mean the exact opposite for me. I have a Cancer Midheaven which makes Capricorn ruling my 4th house. In fact, I guess I have a Cardinal Cross with these angles since I'm a Libra rising.
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I have my MC in Aries in my 10th house but I'm a Leo Rising, so I'm wondering how does the MC clash with the Rising Sign since both both influence outwardly appearance??


Moon is suppose to be your true self like your insides emotion ect. Rising is how others see you and your physical appearance... and MC i think is your profession and your destiny? At least that's what i thought they were
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Yeah that's what I thought, but I got confused because the post says MH dictates your style /attitude...which would be your outward appearance too.
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Scorpio in The 10-th House
The native places him/herself at the disposal of someone in command or control of a situation who is also committed to instrumenting significant changes. The native does his/her bidding as agent or employee. This person acknowledges others as his/her masters until he/she is able to step forth in some degree of leadership.



I relate to this description. I read this a day or two ago and I reflected. It also reads predictive. I also agree with coming across "Dark, Mysterious and Sexy" with having a Scorp Mid... but, at work most particularly. I'm a Cap Ascendant so that is significant as well... may amplify the "Dark" and "Mysterious."

My son was commenting on my lack of "facial expressions." He was trying to find a phrase for it. I told him that he's describing the fact that I don't emote, have few facial expressions. He was explaining his inability to "read" me.