Pluto Tales

Seventh House Pluto or Pluto in Libra: The seventh house is the arena for partners and open enemies and includes marriage, law suits and business contracts. This house can also represent how others see one and the unacceptable parts of oneself that are projected onto other people, including marriage partner, authority figure and of course, enemies. When I see a chart with Pluto in the seventh I think of that person in the context of —to love you is to control you?? or, —to love me is to control me,?? depending on which side of the equation is preferred.

The young Pluto in Libra ones often exhibit a fascination with beauty and physical appearance, while sometimes forgoing discrimination in character judgement. Either way, these people can be constantly bewildered and full of drama over how the other did them wrong, while they of course are nothing but loving and compassionate. Whatever the context, equality in relationships is simply not done, not with a business partner, not with a mate, nor friends, nor any other casual relationship that comes to mind. Relational equality and balanced self-sufficiency is what the transformational seventh house Plutonian is supposed to be working towards, but I have yet to meet any one individual with this placement natally that has truly mastered the challenge, nor do they care to. It is, after all a struggle for survival; resource management including sexual availability is at stake here.

Those I have known prefer to govern the children, partners or employees under their dominion; love and approval is always very conditional. Like the second house Plutonian they are masters at drawing tremendous amounts of affection, attention, productivity and devotion out of people, while never giving nearly as much back. Perhaps this is the dark face of Venus, as she is natural ruler of both houses. The seventh house Plutonian does not hesitate to use guilt, criticism and judgment to control others. The opposite modus operandi can involve displays of pity, shame and silent suffering. Do not dare to give them the same treatment in return, or they will become quite piqued. Sometimes, in a fit of bad sportsmanship they stop engaging in relationships altogether, opting out for the simple open spaces of isolation over the hassles of companionship.

This relational Plutonian style can take on interesting expression in real life. For example, consider a beautiful woman, charming and amenable in every way and financially indepen

Eighth House Pluto or Pluto in Scorpio: Scorpio is the natural sign of this house; Pluto is the modern ruler of Scorpio. The eighth is associated with sex, death, taxes, power and other people's money; it traffics in genetic inheritance, legacies in general and the occult dimensions. The eighth has been pooh-poohed by some astrological writers claiming not to understand why the place is equated with such heavy subjects.

I take that as a signal that they have never had to do any personal heavy time in the domain, represented astrologically by either by luck of the natal draw or because heavy planetary transits or progressions have yet to visit that dark place during their lifetime. On the other hand, people I have known with one or more planets in the eighth house or Pluto in Scorpio are consummate poker players in life; you will never, never know who they really are, what they really believe in, what they are really doing or what tortures they are enduring-or inflicting on others.

Once one encounters eighth house issues on a personal basis, one will never bask in pure, undiluted sunshine ever again. This house is all about power and powerlessness: it can take the form of identifying with a source of power as an initiation of belonging, joining with it so you can have some too or in order to wield power over others; or powerlessness as in having to humbly sublimate the ego and serve in somebody's shadow or corporate stable. We are speaking of the kind of power that mutates lives completely, for better or for worse. If you have not resolved the issue of equity versus hierarchy in relations through the sixth or seventh houses, in the eighth the bar gets raised very high. The individual will be transformed to the core in a big way, even violently, at some time in their life. Some gluttons do sign up for repeated experiences on the razor's edge, apparently getting high on the thrill of courting annihilation.

Perhaps one has a close encounter with a Scorpionic adversary; the Scorpion is not necessarily brought low in the course of a lifetime, even though folks like trotting out the story about the Scorpion always stinging themselves in the end, therefor just deserts, etc. No, we might be self-contained, independent, in control of our own life for years; then certain circumstances arise from an association with power, and one must yield completely to somebody or something way outside the domain of personal control, whether it is fair and equitable or n

im a bit confused cuz my pluto is in 7th house in scorpio

but both descrips sound true for me