the worst people have the best charts

the worst people have the best charts

(oh fudge, hit the return button before i could type anything...hate it when that happens.)

anyway, any of you ever noticed this? there was a girl i used to go to school with, and although i don't her time of birth (nor do i care to know, but i still remember her birthday because everytime it rolled around, she'd make a big deal about it), i looked up her astrological positions just to see if she had a "nice chart." lo and behold, she did. she had all the planets in the right signs making harmonious aspects to one another, but she was a really nasty person; felt entitiled to everything and did not want to lift a finger for it. didn't like her at all.

so i just wanted to know if any of you have ever observed this "nice chart = not so nice person." just a line i read from an astrology book some time ago. feel free to agree or disagree, and share your abservations.

very nice observation MercInAries...i was about to explain this part but before i did, i wanted to know if anybody else noticed this too.

i noticed that people with really harmonious aspects and placements do tend to expect life to be easy, and when some struggle rears it's ugly head, these people tend lash out easily. whereas people with, say a t-square, or lots of squares in their charts, expect life to be difficult and so most just grit their teeth and bear it.

I think you have a point here that worst people have good charts and vice versa...

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I have experienced that. One person who us described by every one as very good and HAS very good charts, was too arrogant with me.

a "good" chart usually has an enormous amount of trines (especially a grand trine involving personal planets) and conjunctions between the right planets (conjunctions can also be disharmonoius between certain planets). a "bad" chart is one with a plethora of sqaures, a t-square, or worse, a grand cross.

(i usually don't like to use the terms "good" or "bad" because some aspects and placements are just more difficult to handle than others. but once its conquered, it can turn into a blessing. so its all relative in a sense.)

I don't know how to interpret individual charts.

I know some one has six plates in one place , house six, and some one told me I have 5 planets in some house.

whoever said stelliums were "good" (sorry to get offensive here) doesn't know what the hell they're talking about. the good that comes with this is doubled or tripled, but also the bad. keep that in mind.

What's sqare and triangle theme? any web site to read that?

sagitTAUries, i also have a really nice chart. not to get all boastful about it, almost anyone who's ever looked at my chart with enough astrological smarts to read one says it's the nicest chart they've ever seen. even the few squares that i have weren't even considered to be a difficult placement because the planets involved were considered "beneficial" planets. but being a virgo has curved this "not-so-nice" persona of mine in a sense, gives me more of a humble and modest streak. i had to learn, the hard way because i wasn't really liked by my peers when i was a little girl growing up, but all the authority figures adored me. i think i'm better now, at least i hope so, lol. and i'm very gratful for my friends.

anybody else have any input to add?

caprigirlwithvirgo, you can read about the these aspects on almost any website. i haven't visited many websites often (been to busy) but if i recall, cafeastrology seems to be a favorite.

a square is a disharmoniuos aspect making ~90 degrees between two planets. this cause friction and confrontation between the planets involved. a triangle, or a grand trine involves three planets in the same element, making an equliateral triangle. the energy is free-flowing and easy to handle.

Thanks agents...

~imo, it's the challenges in life, that give us character and conscious..

That's along the same lines as 'people who can't have it ALL..*i once knew this person where everything came easy, especially in the academic department..*anyway, she was super 'book smart' but had the meanest, most insecure personality...*so i do believe it's rare to have it all, in life..

a sextile is also considered a harmonious aspect because the elements are compatible, but not as strong as a trine. in my opinion, a sextile gives you the "potential" to tap into the complimentary energy between the planets; whereas the trine, its second nature for you to just use it.

conscious=conscience..lol*

I believe that people who know pain and difficulties would more readily sympathize with the plight of others, so Agent has a point.

ha ha, i knew someone here could put two and two together. like i said, when i was growing up, nobody really liked me. when i first got into astrology, i saw my "nice" chart and wondered, "what the hell?" until i ran into this quote in an astrology book, and i understood why.

i do have narcissistic tendencies, but my virgo sun and venus in virgo (considered to be in "fall") has helped me "learn" to be humble. let me tell you, mars in leo sitting on the midheaven isn't so nice sometimes.

personally, i don't find anything "bad" about me, lol...but there is a very fine line between confidence and arrogance. and apparently, i've been told that i come off as arrogant many times, but that was never my intention. and again, i admit to having narcissistic tendencies sometimes.

lol, i don't know if you're trying to get me spill all my secrets and flaws, but i find you endearing. but as i've already said, i learned to change and use the certain classic "good" aspects to my advantage without stepping on anyone's toes.

you're a sag aren't you? a very close sag relative of mine helped me change...and i owe it to her for who i am and where i am today.

she said that i was my greatest enemy. no truer words could've been said about me.

"hmmmm, we sag act rather with very few words,,, never the open advice,, just a simple suggestion,,, those who pick it can understand ... "

i couldn't agree with you more 🙂

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Good? Bad?