Dwade and Lebron are killing it..

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But,

The two of them together are both too dominant for their team. They've nearly eliminated Chris Bosh, and the rest of the team is hardly ever mentioned, which is sad. Tonight the bench only scored 12pts while lebron and dwade combined scored 67. Its also sad that their dominant personalities and the me-against-the-world attitudes are preventing many from rooting for such an exciting team. People loved and rooted for the Bulls when Micheal dominated, and people even love the Lakers and Kobe.

I've noticed that Athletic Capricorns usually become their best in solo sports. Which all brings me to wonder why it seems hard for us to be likeable team players, in general? As far as the miami heat, I can't say they will win the championship, but if they do so many basketball fans and basketball players will hate it when it should be a celebration. *shakes head*
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Also, Dwade and Lebron have really bonded since joining together. They do everything together, which is because of that Capricorn understanding, I'm sure. However, I wonder how the rest of their team really feels about them. I can tell that Chris Bosh keeps a bit of a distance. In the end, if they do win, I just don't see it being much of a thrill behind the scenes for anyone other than lebron and dwade. I'm convinced that Capricorns are not the best at balancing or creating a positive flow of energy to those around. Why, why, why
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As far as Capricorns being better solo athletes its like when I think of basketball, the team sport, I think of micheal jordan who is/was the most dominant face of the game. When it comes to solo sports like boxing and golf, Cappies like Muhammad Ali and Tiger Woods are the faces of the sport.

Even if lebron didn't go to Miami and won championships in Cleveland, I doubt he would be as likeable as a Kobe Bryant. Kobe could shine while the attention of how good derek fisher, shaq, rick fox and whoever else was one their championship winning team wasn't taken away. Even if Miami wins a championship, who from their team will be able to shine and get recognition for that ring along with them? Nobody on their team really steps up, but even if they did their efforts would still be completely overshadowed by Dwade and Lebron.
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Posted by Chance11
true..i'd attribute woods and ali's abilities more to a cap's drive for excellence rather than a conscious effort not to be a team player.

i agree that the team should always get recognition but most of the heat players are complementary..fair or not, it's a star driven league



Conscious effort not to be a team player? That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm sure they take their work very seriously and are very dedicated to their teams. I just notice that the athletic Capricorns who stand out the most are not part of a team. I don't think it's a conscious effort to be dominant, that's just a natural trait that I think Caps like Lebron, although a great player, will struggle with being dominant, yet not eliminating the rest of the team.
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Posted by Chance11
i misspoke, i didn't mean that either. examples are subjective. ali hasn't boxed since the early 80's..and typical cap tiger hasn't won anything since he cheated on his wife (cappy beating himself up? ๐Ÿ™‚and there's probably a host of athletes of every sign including cap so i had trouble finding a clear association..you could be right about lebron as he hasn't won anything yet..i guess time will tell



No Ali hasnt boxed since the 80s and yes Tiger is on a loosing streak, but they are both two of the best at their game. Nobody will dominate boxing like Ali, just as no-one will probably dominate golf like Tiger. That's why I used them as examples. They reached the top and are faces that are instantly associated with the sport.

Also, speaking of Tiger. I just feel so bad for him. I believe he is beating himself up and definitely broken within. Its so sad to see him take himself out because nobody is being as hard on Tiger as Tiger is being on himself. I can pretty much guarantee that. I just hope he gets it together and re-build from within, which will probably be a long process, but hopefully he's working on it.
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I think Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen would have something to say about that. Everyone here knows that you can't have a championship team without Jerry Reinsdorf and Jerry Krause. Phil Jackson was a decent coach with a plethora of talent. If MJ and Pippen weren't on the team he'd never have coached the Bulls. Look at the Lakers, not legendary with him there, are they? Not only that, the Lakers had more talent per position than the Bulls ever had with him as coach. Not legendary with Phil at the helm. Don't give him so much credit just because he's a Virgo dude. When MJ retired the first time, Phil Jackson didn't win jack squat. When MJ retired the second time, along with Pippen, Phil Jackson ran like a lil bitch and he got barbequed in the media here for it. Michael Jordan made the Bulls "Legendary" because they had a "Legend" on the team, and his name was not Phil Jackson. WTF? Phil Jackson is the most overrated NBA coach of all time, if you truly want to go there. He can't bring out talent, he can only coach players who don't need to be coached. That's the truth.

Tom Thibodeau is FAR better than Phil Jackson. He took THIS Bulls team to the conference championship his first year.

Phil Jackson had a mentor by the name of Doug Collins (Leo) who people in the know, knows that he was the one who coached those teams and taught Phil Jackson everything he knows when Phil was just a bench coach.

By the way, how did those Lakers end up this year? ๐Ÿ˜‰

Coaches aren't leaders, they aren't on the floor. Players play, coaches coach. MJ led all of those teams dude. Ever heard of a book called "The Jordan Rules"?
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You're wrong. Even MJ acknowledges the genius of Jackson, and yes he LED the Bulls into those magnificent consecutive championship wins. As The Bull's coach, the methods he brought into the art of coaching were unprecedented for NBA's standards at the time, also tactically-wise he was responsible for introducing revolutionary playing systems.

The whole of the NBA acknowledges what Im saying, MJ does too, so why should listen to some random dude called Geminimind?
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Jordan is a diplomat, and you've yet to prove me wrong on jack. So, please, pretty please, with a cherry on top. Don't listen to this random dude called GeminiMind. I like you just the way you are. ๐Ÿ˜‰ You're still wrong as all hell though, and I'm right about my knowledge since I watched the Bulls up close and personal up until now. Carry on, Virgo. I guess we all need a hero. HaHa! For the record the Triangle offense is the offense the Bulls used and the Lakers use now. Phil Jackson had NOTHING to do with it. Sam Barry and Bulls assistant coach Tex Winter were the creators. All Phil did was sit back, give the players a book on Zen, and collected the rewards. Everyone HERE in Chicago knows that. Just because you don't, don't hate. If you're going to backup someone, have your facts straight. Done, and done.
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Both Lebron and Wade are playing passively tonight, and I know what that's about. Although they lost to Chicago during the regular season, they still don't respect the Bulls how they respect Boston, the Lakers etc. They are underestimating them and feel they don't have anything to prove against them. That will be their downfall if they are not careful. If this was a game against the Lakers right now they would be hustling their butts off just how they hustled against Boston. They are doing the total opposite.

I'm noticing that it may just be a Cap thing to give 100% when we have something to prove or are pissed.
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Btw, I was very disappointed in Lebron and Wade tonight. They both played horribly, and it's almost like they literally fuel eachother. If one plays good then the other is right behind him, but if one has a bad game, then so does the other, and the whole team lose. They've got to do better.

Tonight they got humbled quick though for that big unnecessary celebration after winning against the Celtics. They figured since they knocked one of the best teams out that everything else would be smooth sailing. News flash! Yall got a ways to go! They better get it together.
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Shaka, you're obsessed with the word "Legendary". HaHa!

legend

leg??end
โ€” โ€”[lej-uhnd]
โ€”noun
1.
a nonhistorical or unverifiable story handed down by tradition from earlier times and popularly accepted as historical.
2.
the body of stories of this kind, especially as they relate to a particular people, group, or clan: the winning of the West in American legend.
3.
an inscription, especially on a coat of arms, on a monument, under a picture, or the like.
4.
a table on a map, chart, or the like, listing and explaining the symbols used. Compare key1 ( def. 8 ) .
5.
Numismatics . inscription ( def. 8 ) .
6.
a collection of stories about an admirable person.
7.
a person who is the center of such stories: She became a legend in her own lifetime.
8.
Archaic . a story of the life of a saint, especially one stressing the miraculous or unrecorded deeds of the saint.
9.
Obsolete . a collection of such stories or stories like them.

Use the term correctly. There's nothing "Legendary" about an NBA basketball team. ๐Ÿ˜‰
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Posted by Strider
Let's not get cocky already chicago .........


I am sure the Capricorn Duo won't take kindly to getting their egos smashed into oblivion and will mount some sort of comeback .



Either they are going to go ALL the way in, or they are going to check all the way out, basically how they did Sunday. Cap has an all-or-nothing type ego. If they don't get in their minds that The Bulls are a team to beat then this will play out real ugly. It may click to them that DRose and that team is their biggest competition right now, but hopefully not right before it's too late.

Also, yall see what I mean about team work? Chicago's bench did a GREAT job. It wasn't just DRose alone, it was him and the team. You will probably never see full cooperation like that with Miami.
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Posted by Chance11
somebody forgot to tell the Heat who had the best record in the league and the league's best player..
lebron had that deer-in-the-headlights look again. wade's gotta stop trying to guard rose and letting taj gibson dunk on him. bosh is softer than a pisces



the biggest pussies in the NBA is caps thou (lebron, crybaby wade, and "big baby" glen davis), while you got pisces like rondo who played with a dislocated arm..

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Lol at the mention of glen davis.

Chad ochocinco(football) is a Cap too and he's extremely whiny. I'm just wondering if this has to do more with them being on teams than just being caps. Its like if they have others to depend on then they will take the easy route out, but if its just themselves then they will go all out, if that makes sense. Chad is another extremely talented and athletic Capricorn with no ring.

That Rondo is adorable. I was so proud of him for getting back in the game after that foul move from Wade. I remember that pisces quarterback playing with a broken nose. They can definitely be tough and handle physical pain well it seem.
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