scorpio women

Has anyone here had a relationship with a scorpio? How did it turn out and was there a crazy lack where communication is concerned? I need some help here please

They evil....always plotting😉

Posted by TokerX
Yes and yes. Never good actually...

Hi TokerX thanks for commenting. Care to expound? Why do you say it is NEVER good? I have a post in the Scorpio forum I started called " confused by scorpio woman, please help". The scorps have been very helpful and given me some good advice.

I am trying to figure out how to make this work somehow

Posted by gemeliorist
They evil....always plotting😉

LOL, in what ways are they always plotting?

Posted by TokerX

Posted by gemeliorist
They evil....always plotting😉

No they're not. They're just crazy. 😉

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haha, I feel like a nut sometimes too!

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Posted by indiajones33
Has anyone here had a relationship with a scorpio? How did it turn out and was there a crazy lack where communication is concerned? I need some help here please

well i never had a serious relationship with one but have dated one before when me and my ex had relationship problems. their not all that bad. it turn out pretty good for me 🙂. just found out that my Scorpio date passed away recently 😢. but i say give it a shot. you may not regret it.

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Hi AirMan,
sorry to hear your scorpio date passed away ::HUGS::

I am currently in a relationship with a scorpio female and our way of communicating is like night and day times. I am wonderig if any Gems had/has a relationship with a scorpio and how they overcame the difference in communication style s.

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Posted by TokerX
Yes and yes. Never good actually...

Hi TokerX thanks for commenting. Care to expound? Why do you say it is NEVER good? I have a post in the Scorpio forum I started called " confused by scorpio woman, please help". The scorps have been very helpful and given me some good advice.

I am trying to figure out how to make this work somehow

I know, I've read it. 😉

Hard to expand on it though. It's mostly communication and them not believing me. They think everybody has ulterioir motives and the world's out to get them. They're also not interested in what the real reason is, they're only interested in what they want the reason to be.

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yes, yes and yes! She always believes there is an ulterior motive. I told her that no matter what I say she finds some way to critique or find fault with it. I tell her the truth of a matter but she still feels there is more to everything I say and tries to fill in the blanks with her own perceptions. It is tiring, but the only option is to walk away, which isn't an option for me, or continue being patient and hope she learns to trust me.

My longest relationship was with a male scorp and I have lots of them around me in RL. Some friends and some foe.


They can be very giving and loving, but it comes at a steep price. Hard to shake them when they are attached though. Too controlling and the crap doesn't even make sense half of the time (just spent a couple of hours with my exscorp today, and I was pissed off from the get go. Ulterior motives so transparent. He does have a good soul and very loyal just passionate and sensitive, always erupting.

When they sting you and you actually care about them, turn that stinger back on them. They have issues like everybody else, but will go down trying to harm you if they feel wronged. Don't let her manipulate you, that's their thing, emotions. Give her everything that she gives you. The good and the bad. Especially the bad, so don't get sidetracked and forget the bad. They aren't stupid, just like having their way and aren't too nice about it sometimes. My closest female scorp friend's motto, if I'm not happy no one else will be, my stepmother too. 😢 what a waste. Ding, ding, ding hello karma calling.

Give them something, but never all, because they can't appreciate it as they live in the basement.

It's as if everyone should pay for their pain but it's ok to inflict it on others. Ok. Don't fall for the I'm so insecure....maybe, but she'll try and turn you into that. They get their powers from emotional manipulation and will use everything and anything to get what they want. I warn them about karma all the time, because being rational isn't always an option for them.

They are vindictive as hell. Basement dwellers. God only knows what they are doing down there.

That's mainly about a few, the others are very loving and protective 🙂 me like....but with some of the above negative traits too 😉 Just shine the light on their crap.... AND DON'T FEEL SORRY FOR THEM, THAT'S THEIR GOAL.

Posted by TokerX
And you know how this is going to end? Either with you killing yourself or you in a straightjacket. Because you're not the problem. She is. And She doesn't see it.

I won't kill myself but that straigt jacket sounds about right. The lack of effective emmunicaion is driving me mad!!!

They can be very giving and loving, but it comes at a steep price. Hard to shake them when they are attached though. Too controlling and the crap doesn't even make sense half of the time (just spent a couple of hours with my exscorp today, and I was pissed off from the get go. Ulterior motives so transparent. He does have a good soul and very loyal just passionate and sensitive, always erupting.

Yes! she can be so loving, giving, caring, and considerate but it does seem to come at a steep price. I feel like everythiing has to be on her terms. She has to control when we break up, when we make up, how we make up, how we are intimate, and so on. She is very passionate and erupts in a split second when she feels offended.

How do I turn the stinger back on her without seeming petty or like I am playing games. I don't want to play games bc I don't like them and I love her. I don't believe she acts this way on purpose.... I think she is just trying to protect herself but all she ends up doing is pushing me away. and yes I feel like I am paying for her pain. whenever we argue there is no making up until she is ready. It is like she feels I need to pay even if it causes harm to our relationship. Then she comes back wanting to make up and gets upset if I sound angry or frustrated.

Also, what is a basement dweller?

You have one that needs some serious work. She sounds like my closest scorp female friend. YOU CAN'T FIX EM. They're badly broken when they are like that. She actually sounds spoilt and you aren't doing anyone any favours by allowing her to get away with crap. She is playing you and takes your kindness and ability to adapt and let things roll off your back as weakness. Gems choose their battles, some things just aren't worth the energy, lol.

Don't mistake the scorps sensitivity for them being a bleeding heart. Them being sensitive is about having feelers that pick up on emotions, which they will always use to their advantage. It's about control and they like having that kind of power. It trumps physical power. Don't give it to them.

When she does her crap, don't give in to her. Whatever she does, give it right back to her. You have to have well defined boundaries with them or they will abuse you. Just because she comes back over and over again doesn't mean that it's true love. Her ego is huge, you going along with all her demands and behaviour isn't making you a prize in her eyes believe it or not. She's getting something and she will stay as long as she is getting what she wants or needs from you or until something else comes along that is better and more secure.

Another ultimately selfish sign even though they can be caring etc. They'll use words and actions to lure you to get what they want. They thrive off of that crap. When they have been hurt badly, some NEVER recover properly. Her actions alone, back and forth speaks volumes. She's not ok with herself so she plays games to get what she wants even if it means hurting you. So reactive.

I just finished reading your thread in the scorp forum and all the things that you both do. Classic scorpion that has issues with love, she seems incapable really. Like I said some of what you have described and quoted have been mirrored by my friend. Damn it's like they are twins. She will beg and plead, part of doing what ever it takes. If you care find out what her triggers are by paying attention rather than by treating her like she is normal. She isn't even if she wants to be.

But I'm not in a relationship with her so I don't have to put up with any of it. My ex was not like that, can be manipulative but I guess it's different for a male. He couldn't use sex to lure me, also I'm too independent and I handle money better than he does. So he had to try and be as rational as possible. But he can't always help himself and would exhibit some of the same behaviours. Narcissist. I see through his crap, took a while as I wanted what I wanted. Good luck with that, they don't really change completely, just modify some behaviours because they can't get away with it anymore. Or just switched tactics. lol.

Mean what YOU say, but you might want to move on. Somethings just aren't worth the grief, all that nonsense.

A basement dweller to me, is someone who's comfortable in a dark and dank place where just about anything that's not good is possible and don't mind you being there with them usually to your detriment.

Scorps aren't crazy...smh

Posted by indiajones33
They can be very giving and loving, but it comes at a steep price. Hard to shake them when they are attached though. Too controlling and the crap doesn't even make sense half of the time (just spent a couple of hours with my exscorp today, and I was pissed off from the get go. Ulterior motives so transparent. He does have a good soul and very loyal just passionate and sensitive, always erupting.

Yes! she can be so loving, giving, caring, and considerate but it does seem to come at a steep price. I feel like everythiing has to be on her terms. She has to control when we break up, when we make up, how we make up, how we are intimate, and so on. She is very passionate and erupts in a split second when she feels offended.

How do I turn the stinger back on her without seeming petty or like I am playing games. I don't want to play games bc I don't like them and I love her. I don't believe she acts this way on purpose.... I think she is just trying to protect herself but all she ends up doing is pushing me away. and yes I feel like I am paying for her pain. whenever we argue there is no making up until she is ready. It is like she feels I need to pay even if it causes harm to our relationship. Then she comes back wanting to make up and gets upset if I sound angry or frustrated.

Also, what is a basement dweller?

You can't turn the stinger back in her. She'll see it coming.

If you want to get rid of her. Betray her. Just break her heart. Tell her something about herself that she isn't aware of, but it has to be the TRUTH.

I promise you that she will leave you alone after that.

Posted by gemeliorist
I just finished reading your thread in the scorp forum and all the things that you both do. Classic scorpion that has issues with love, she seems incapable really. Like I said some of what you have described and quoted have been mirrored by my friend. Damn it's like they are twins. She will beg and plead, part of doing what ever it takes. If you care find out what her triggers are by paying attention rather than by treating her like she is normal. She isn't even if she wants to be.

But I'm not in a relationship with her so I don't have to put up with any of it. My ex was not like that, can be manipulative but I guess it's different for a male. He couldn't use sex to lure me, also I'm too independent and I handle money better than he does. So he had to try and be as rational as possible. But he can't always help himself and would exhibit some of the same behaviours. Narcissist. I see through his crap, took a while as I wanted what I wanted. Good luck with that, they don't really change completely, just modify some behaviours because they can't get away with it anymore. Or just switched tactics. lol.

Mean what YOU say, but you might want to move on. Somethings just aren't worth the grief, all that nonsense.

A basement dweller to me, is someone who's comfortable in a dark and dank place where just about anything that's not good is possible and don't mind you being there with them usually to your detriment.

I don't know what Scorps you're describing, but this shit is ridiculous. All Scorps aren't the same.

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Posted by TokerX
Yes and yes. Never good actually...

Hi TokerX thanks for commenting. Care to expound? Why do you say it is NEVER good? I have a post in the Scorpio forum I started called " confused by scorpio woman, please help". The scorps have been very helpful and given me some good advice.

I am trying to figure out how to make this work somehow

I know, I've read it. 😉

Hard to expand on it though. It's mostly communication and them not believing me. They think everybody has ulterioir motives and the world's out to get them. They're also not interested in what the real reason is, they're only interested in what they want the reason to be.

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I disagree. If Scorps think deeply and they think everybody has a ulterior motive, then why wouldn't they be interested in what the real reason is? Isn't that the only way to solve or fix a problem?

The problem with Scorps and communication is that we see bullshit a mile away. Always be truthful. That's the main problem. Honesty is the key. Don't half ass it either.

Most people tend to see the others crap but not their own. You have to be honest with yourself first to be able to accept and understand honesty. Even being honest can reside only on the surface.

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Not everyone is the same across the board =>culturally, ethnically..blah, blah, blah........lord if this isn't a given by now. Hence context.

Yes Rabbit, I have seen that as well. I have seen them hurt really bad over small insignificant things that leaves you wondering what the hell when they claim to be such bada**es. But still, they cause unnecessary pain because their behaviour can be so disruptive to the home environment. Often using anger and guilt as a means to control but it ends up causing chaos.

OP, when she uses the "we" I bet you light up like a christmas tree, then she becomes the "I" and then says "you"........
Just give her what she gives you or leave if you are so unhappy. Let her deal with her demons, it isn't your responsibility to make her happy and you ultimately can't.

Gems to me show their love, care, respect and appreciation by saying it, giving you what you want if it makes you happy. Who doesn't want the person they care about to be happy? But don't abuse it. I find that allowing someone to be who they are will sometimes give them license to think they can mistreat another. It's only a matter of time before a gem will lash out at you and keep doing it once the passive aggressive behaviour no longer serves them. We don't have a burning desire to control anyone, do your own thing.

....and you don't have to go out of your way and devise to harm another. Why plot, just walk away.

Posted by gemeliorist
You have one that needs some serious work. She sounds like my closest scorp female friend. YOU CAN'T FIX EM. They're badly broken when they are like that. She actually sounds spoilt and you aren't doing anyone any favours by allowing her to get away with crap. She is playing you and takes your kindness and ability to adapt and let things roll off your back as weakness. Gems choose their battles, some things just aren't worth the energy, lol.

Don't mistake the scorps sensitivity for them being a bleeding heart. Them being sensitive is about having feelers that pick up on emotions, which they will always use to their advantage. It's about control and they like having that kind of power. It trumps physical power. Don't give it to them.

When she does her crap, don't give in to her. Whatever she does, give it right back to her. You have to have well defined boundaries with them or they will abuse you. Just because she comes back over and over again doesn't mean that it's true love. Her ego is huge, you going along with all her demands and behaviour isn't making you a prize in her eyes believe it or not. She's getting something and she will stay as long as she is getting what she wants or needs from you or until something else comes along that is better and more secure.

Another ultimately selfish sign even though they can be caring etc. They'll use words and actions to lure you to get what they want. They thrive off of that crap. When they have been hurt badly, some NEVER recover properly. Her actions alone, back and forth speaks volumes. She's not ok with herself so she plays games to get what she wants even if it means hurting you. So reactive.

What you say sounds like her but I don't know if she realizes how her actions comes across as manipulative. It's like we speak two different languages or no matter how I say it she hears and processes it in a way I never intended. It's rare if she admits to a mistake because if you have her tell it all her mistakes are a reaction of my actions. Either way it's my fault lol.

Posted by Noreallynow
If you want to get rid of her. Betray her. Just break her heart. Tell her something about herself that she isn't aware of, but it has to be the TRUTH.

I promise you that she will leave you alone after that.

I don't want her to leave and I don't want to leave her. I just want her to see her actions and not just shine the light on mine.

Posted by Rabbit
Just an aside about the sensitivity and control aspects...

It's absolutely correct.


Some Scorpios are blessed/cursed with an almost supernatural ability to pick up on and read emotions. Unfortunately the ability to deal with the emotions being picked up is sometimes NOT included in the package.

You'll find many of these Scorpios attempt to control their the environment (and everyone in it) around them because they simply can't deal with the emotional aspects.

It's not devious...it's not malevolent...it's just part of who they are. Generally if you are somewhat understanding of their "plight", they can adjust and mitigate.

Yes, I notice she picks up on the emotions and feeling of others very easily, but with me it is 50/50 hit and miss. I am not easy to read and I believe this is what makes her doubt my feelings. I think scorpios fear getting hurt so much that they HAVE to control what goes on around them. Fear always creates the need for control, which is why fear should not have a place in relationships.

Posted by gemeliorist
Yes Rabbit, I have seen that as well. I have seen them hurt really bad over small insignificant things that leaves you wondering what the hell when they claim to be such bada**es. But still, they cause unnecessary pain because their behaviour can be so disruptive to the home environment. Often using anger and guilt as a means to control but it ends up causing chaos.

OP, when she uses the "we" I bet you light up like a christmas tree, then she becomes the "I" and then says "you"........
Just give her what she gives you or leave if you are so unhappy. Let her deal with her demons, it isn't your responsibility to make her happy and you ultimately can't.

Gems to me show their love, care, respect and appreciation by saying it, giving you what you want if it makes you happy. Who doesn't want the person they care about to be happy? But don't abuse it. I find that allowing someone to be who they are will sometimes give them license to think they can mistreat another. It's only a matter of time before a gem will lash out at you and keep doing it once the passive aggressive behaviour no longer serves them. We don't have a burning desire to control anyone, do your own thing.

....and you don't have to go out of your way and devise to harm another. Why plot, just walk away.

I totally agree. My scorpio feelings are hurt over the smallest of things and at first I would be speechless with amazement and frustration.

Now I know that she gets hurt easily so I am more sensitive to behavior she may find offensive or hurtful.

You are so right when speaking on how a Gemini shows their love! But she wants to see action and not hear lip service. I, on the other hand, feel I show via my actions in addition to verbally but it is what she perceives that matters and I try to be a bit more open emotionally. I realize I can seem very cool at times and she wants to feel my warmth for her.

I am not sure why you believe I am devising to hurt her, but I never stated in my post I want to harm or play games with her. I love her and dont want to walk away. My purpose of posting is find out how others have dealt with the obvious differences and miscommunication that tends to go on between gems and scorps.

Posted by exoskeleton
most scorps question/doubt people because we see them as inconsistent, wishy-washy, etc. it's hard to respect someone who has no solid principles and can change wind at the drop of a hat.

she is sensitive and will always look deep into your words and actions.

easy solution: say what you mean and mean what you say.

what is it with scorpios and the "say what you mean and mean what you say"? My scorpio uses this all the time and someone on the scorp board used it with me.

You have a point to what you say because she believes I am very indecisive. I believe the main reason we are together is because I have been consistent in my love and feelings for her. I never wavered even when she would call my feelings lust and say I don't really know what I want. I believe that consistenct won her over.

However, when it comes to something like choosing what I want for dinner, or what my next vehicle will be I tend to ride the waves a bit on stuff like that. I can see the pros of going with vehicle A over vehicle B, or eating a certain food over another. I will go back and forth before making my decision.

But when it comes to principles, morals and my core beliefs, that doesn't change.

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Posted by exoskeleton
most scorps question/doubt people because we see them as inconsistent, wishy-washy, etc. it's hard to respect someone who has no solid principles and can change wind at the drop of a hat.

she is sensitive and will always look deep into your words and actions.

easy solution: say what you mean and mean what you say.

what is it with scorpios and the "say what you mean and mean what you say"? My scorpio uses this all the time and someone on the scorp board used it with me.

You have a point to what you say because she believes I am very indecisive. I believe the main reason we are together is because I have been consistent in my love and feelings for her. I never wavered even when she would call my feelings lust and say I don't really know what I want. I believe that consistenct won her over.

However, when it comes to something like choosing what I want for dinner, or what my next vehicle will be I tend to ride the waves a bit on stuff like that. I can see the pros of going with vehicle A over vehicle B, or eating a certain food over another. I will go back and forth before making my decision.

But when it comes to principles, morals and my core beliefs, that doesn't change.

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It means don't waffle...be real, say what you want, make sure you mean it. Have action behind the words to back it up, be consistent. Most scorps are very decisive. I have trouble with people who say one thing but do another

IndiaJones33...

You sound like such a gem! 🙂 But, this....

Posted by indiajones33
I am not sure why you believe I am devising to hurt her, but I never stated in my post I want to harm or play games with her. I love her and dont want to walk away. My purpose of posting is find out how others have dealt with the obvious differences and miscommunication that tends to go on between gems and scorps.

... was meant for other posters who suggested intentionally harming someone you love. Unbelievable! Also, one gemini demerit point for you though, since you should know that we are capable of having several conversations at once. No excuses 😉

I hear that saying from scorps and virgos sometimes, about meaning what you say and actions. But they can stick with a bad decision and destroy everything. Follow your own mind. Everyone has to make adjustments in any relationship. Don't let her bully you, they will always try and because gems don't feel the need to control everything, we allow them their way.

Nope, even if you want to. They will take advantage and then it becomes the norm. Cut that crap off. Keep to your boundaries and stand up for what you WANT and NEED. They can be very calculating, like anyone else, so be wary. They have to earn your trust too. It's not all one sided, so don't bend to what they always want even if it is not important to you. That is how they become spoilt ant demanding then everything becomes an issue if it isn't what they want.

....As for being indecisive about a purchase, I don't give a definitive answer until I am sure, because I have to take me time as I hate getting something that is not of good quality or will not be used. What is the point. Anyway, don't allow people to use stupid things like that to manipulate you about serious matters by questioning your judgement and character. Morals and buying a car or some furniture, even food, what's the correlation......stupid.

Posted by gemeliorist
I hear that saying from scorps and virgos sometimes, about meaning what you say and actions. But they can stick with a bad decision and destroy everything. Follow your own mind. Everyone has to make adjustments in any relationship. Don't let her bully you, they will always try and because gems don't feel the need to control everything, we allow them their way.

Nope, even if you want to. They will take advantage and then it becomes the norm. Cut that crap off. Keep to your boundaries and stand up for what you WANT and NEED. They can be very calculating, like anyone else, so be wary. They have to earn your trust too. It's not all one sided, so don't bend to what they always want even if it is not important to you. That is how they become spoilt ant demanding then everything becomes an issue if it isn't what they want.

....As for being indecisive about a purchase, I don't give a definitive answer until I am sure, because I have to take me time as I hate getting something that is not of good quality or will not be used. What is the point. Anyway, don't allow people to use stupid things like that to manipulate you about serious matters by questioning your judgement and character. Morals and buying a car or some furniture, even food, what's the correlation......stupid.

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IndiaJones, you sound like pussy-whipped right now, finding excuses after excuses to endure the abuse you described on the Scorpio forum.

You are not alone. What you have written there could have been written by my Gem about his ex. I can't believe that someone as intelligent as him put up with that crap for about two years. Looking back, he can't believe it either.

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Posted by exoskeleton
most scorps question/doubt people because we see them as inconsistent, wishy-washy, etc. it's hard to respect someone who has no solid principles and can change wind at the drop of a hat.

she is sensitive and will always look deep into your words and actions.

easy solution: say what you mean and mean what you say.

what is it with scorpios and the "say what you mean and mean what you say"? My scorpio uses this all the time and someone on the scorp board used it with me.

You have a point to what you say because she believes I am very indecisive. I believe the main reason we are together is because I have been consistent in my love and feelings for her. I never wavered even when she would call my feelings lust and say I don't really know what I want. I believe that consistenct won her over.

However, when it comes to something like choosing what I want for dinner, or what my next vehicle will be I tend to ride the waves a bit on stuff like that. I can see the pros of going with vehicle A over vehicle B, or eating a certain food over another. I will go back and forth before making my decision.

But when it comes to principles, morals and my core beliefs, that doesn't change.

It means don't waffle...be real, say what you want, make sure you mean it. Have action behind the words to back it up, be consistent. Most scorps are very decisive. I have trouble with people who say one thing but do another

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Hi Lovable, thanks for the input! I can reflect and see how some of my actions come off as indecisive, which is why I don't like sharing some of my thoughts with her. However she then gets mad about that! I told her what was the point in sharing when all she is going to say is that I am decisive? lol... well she wants that choice. Now I make sure to work out my ping pongish decision making process in my head and then relate it to her once the decision is made.

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Posted by indiajones33

Posted by exoskeleton
most scorps question/doubt people because we see them as inconsistent, wishy-washy, etc. it's hard to respect someone who has no solid principles and can change wind at the drop of a hat.

she is sensitive and will always look deep into your words and actions.

easy solution: say what you mean and mean what you say.

what is it with scorpios and the "say what you mean and mean what you say"? My scorpio uses this all the time and someone on the scorp board used it with me.

You have a point to what you say because she believes I am very indecisive. I believe the main reason we are together is because I have been consistent in my love and feelings for her. I never wavered even when she would call my feelings lust and say I don't really know what I want. I believe that consistenct won her over.

However, when it comes to something like choosing what I want for dinner, or what my next vehicle will be I tend to ride the waves a bit on stuff like that. I can see the pros of going with vehicle A over vehicle B, or eating a certain food over another. I will go back and forth before making my decision.

But when it comes to principles, morals and my core beliefs, that doesn't change.

It means don't waffle...be real, say what you want, make sure you mean it. Have action behind the words to back it up, be consistent. Most scorps are very decisive. I have trouble with people who say one thing but do another

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Hi Lovable, thanks for the input! I can reflect and see how some of my actions come off as indecisive, which is why I don't like sharing some of my thoughts with her. However she then gets mad about that! I told her what was the point in sharing when all she is going to say is that I am decisive? lol... well she wants that choice. Now I make sure to work out my ping pongish decision making process in my head and then relate it to her once the decision is made.

Posted by gemeliorist
IndiaJones33...

You sound like such a gem! 🙂 But, this....

Posted by indiajones33
I am not sure why you believe I am devising to hurt her, but I never stated in my post I want to harm or play games with her. I love her and dont want to walk away. My purpose of posting is find out how others have dealt with the obvious differences and miscommunication that tends to go on between gems and scorps.

... was meant for other posters who suggested intentionally harming someone you love. Unbelievable! Also, one gemini demerit point for you though, since you should know that we are capable of having several conversations at once. No excuses 😉

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gemelioris, I am such a Gem!! LOL.

I wasn't sure if my post were coming across as wanting to harm or pay games with her, so thanks for clearing that up. I don't plan to listen to people that say hurt her on purpose but their is nothing wrong in saying to leave her or something along those lines.

Posted by gemeliorist
I hear that saying from scorps and virgos sometimes, about meaning what you say and actions. But they can stick with a bad decision and destroy everything. Follow your own mind. Everyone has to make adjustments in any relationship. Don't let her bully you, they will always try and because gems don't feel the need to control everything, we allow them their way.

Nope, even if you want to. They will take advantage and then it becomes the norm. Cut that crap off. Keep to your boundaries and stand up for what you WANT and NEED. They can be very calculating, like anyone else, so be wary. They have to earn your trust too. It's not all one sided, so don't bend to what they always want even if it is not important to you. That is how they become spoilt ant demanding then everything becomes an issue if it isn't what they want.

....As for being indecisive about a purchase, I don't give a definitive answer until I am sure, because I have to take me time as I hate getting something that is not of good quality or will not be used. What is the point. Anyway, don't allow people to use stupid things like that to manipulate you about serious matters by questioning your judgement and character. Morals and buying a car or some furniture, even food, what's the correlation......stupid.

you are so on point that it's ridiculous! The scorpio board told me I should stand up to her also. They said assertiveness is a turn on.
I trust her in matters of loyalty but have stopped trusting her with my heart and when it comes hurting me. She can be deadly with her words when angry, and so can I, but I have given her a taste of that side.

I let stuff roll off my back and she has become so used to it that she doesn't even offer up an apology. It's Almost seems like she feels she is doing me a favor or i should be honored. I try and be patient because I know her past but it gets frustrating constantly having to reassure or convince her or defend myself.

It's crazy how she doesn't admit to any wrong doing. I love her but I'm not in a happy place. Sometimes love isn't enough.

Posted by Undine
IndiaJones, you sound like pussy-whipped right now, finding excuses after excuses to endure the abuse you described on the Scorpio forum.

You are not alone. What you have written there could have been written by my Gem about his ex. I can't believe that someone as intelligent as him put up with that crap for about two years. Looking back, he can't believe it either.

Lmbo, yes I love her addition to being seriously kitty whipped! That girl is poison and I'll admit I've NEVER experienced love making on this level before. Looking back over my post it does seem I am putting up with abuse and in denial about it.

a denial state I didn't realize I was even in!

Posted by gemeliorist
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Not everyone is the same across the board =>culturally, ethnically..blah, blah, blah........lord if this isn't a given by now. Hence context.

You say that, but you're still putting all Scorps in the same category.

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Posted by Noreallynow

I disagree. If Scorps think deeply and they think everybody has a ulterior motive, then why wouldn't they be interested in what the real reason is? Isn't that the only way to solve or fix a problem?

Because when everything looks too good go be true they will invent a problem. Problems that aren't real are unfixable. No matter what the reason could be.

Posted by Noreallynow

The problem with Scorps is that we see bullshit a mile away

The problem with Scorps is that you think you see bullshit. With a Gem things aren't always what they seem to be.

Posted by Noreallynow
Always be truthful.

I am. (to those who deserve it)

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Invent bullshit? Everything that I have said to be true, is true. I don't make up shit. Some gems do, though. It's exactly how we see it.

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Posted by Noreallynow

Invent bullshit? Everything that I have said to be true, is true.

To you maybe. 😉

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Some gems do, though.

😕 Wish I was that imaginative to make up shit. Lol. 🙂

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No, to others, too. THEY tell me that I'm correct. Once again, ALL Scorps aren't the the same.

Maybe you could be that imaginative and make shit up or maybe you don't have it in you. I did say SOME gems.

I dated two Scorpio men and have been married to another for 7 years. I would say we have significant communication issues because our communication style s are so different. I'm a pretty quiet person, but am compelled to communicate every thought or feeling if I care about someone. He is the opposite, in that he enjoys feeling like he DOESN'T have to say anything around people he loves and can just be quiet and relax. This is a huge issue, especially when I see him chatting and laughing around other people when I can barely get a conversation out of him at home. To me, verbal sharing shows love. To him, I'm just blathering.

He sees the negative side of things, and is quick to point it out. I see the positive in things, and all his negativity really brings me down. He gets exasperated because my positivity seems like naivete to him. The communication problems come into play when he takes things I say as having a negative meaning when there was none intended. I've also been trained to think everything that comes out of his mouth will be negative, so I often mistake innocent comments for criticisms and react in a bad way.

The suspicious nature of Scorpios is real, and can be valuable in the right setting. Everyday domestic life is NOT the proper setting. The Scorpio intuition is also real, and the combination of the two isn't always pleasant. Because my man has highly tuned intuition, he's come to have too much faith in it. When his suspicion leads him to believe I'm doing him wrong (cheating, for instance), he is certain he is right because he thinks his intuition is infallible. When he's proven wrong, over and over, he will still NEVER apologize because some part of him won't let him believe he wasn't right. Getting an apology out of him...for anything...is like winning the lottery for me.

Yes, you have to put your foot down and be very strong with a Scorpio. You are part of their world, not the other way around, and everything will be about them if you play the part of the typical laid-back Gem. I'm the kind of person who supports us as a team, so I'm fine with working to make anything he wants happen. It took me a while to realize that it wasn't working the other way around. He was getting what he needed to be happy while my needs were being pushed to the side and seen as unimportant. I have to be firm every day to make sure my needs are heard and met, even if there are fights about it. It feels exhausting and unfair to have to literally fight f

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Yes, you have to put your foot down and be very strong with a Scorpio. You are part of their world, not the other way around, and everything will be about them if you play the part of the typical laid-back Gem. I'm the kind of person who supports us as a team, so I'm fine with working to make anything he wants happen. It took me a while to realize that it wasn't working the other way around. He was getting what he needed to be happy while my needs were being pushed to the side and seen as unimportant. I have to be firm every day to make sure my needs are heard and met, even if there are fights about it. It feels exhausting and unfair to have to literally fight f

....and they call this ish intensity. I call it selfish. pointless. I like peace around me therefore I give it and plenty of it. They usually learn after I am gone. They need help and should go seek it.

Posted by indiajones33
Has anyone here had a relationship with a scorpio? How did it turn out and was there a crazy lack where communication is concerned? I need some help here please

Intuitive, domineering, dangerous but WORTH THE RIDE 100% ! They can almost cast a "spell" and leave an impression that lasts a lifetime.

Update: me and the scorpio have went out separate ways for good now. I would caution any Gem in a relationship with a scorpio to know when enough is enough and not be afraid to walk away. I feel like no matter the sign, if a person has unresolved hurt, insecurities and almost nonexistent self awareness, it will never work. I spent over a year being patient and understanding, breaking my neck to give the scorpio all she desired while putting my needs to the side.

My experience was a learning experience though and I grew. I learned what I want in a relationship, how I need to be treated in order to grow in love and how to set boundairies. Even with all that happened she walks away feeling she is right and did no wrong. Its disappointing but it's her journey and her problem.

My focus is me and why I allowed myself to be in such an unhealthy relationship for so long. To me love uplift, builds, forgives and is kind. Love doesn't hold grudges, refuse to compromise and makes you feel bad.

Huge lesson learned. Love should not involve games. All games come to an end.

Gem87: sorry you were hurt and hope you've healed from your experience. This was my first relationship with a scorpio and even though I know everyone is different it seems most scorpios have lots of the same hang ups or barriers. I just believe that if something doesn't feel right after 3 months of dating and you see no way to resolve the issue it's better to walk than deal with all the craziness to come.

Nobody believes me but I've watched a Gemini man get destroyed by a Scorpio woman I knew this guy long before she did he was the typical happy go lucky Gem man. Their relationship was good for the first 8 months then things started to change a full year into the relationship he started bending over backwards for her. He is still with her I'm pretty sure she's got something over him ya blackmail, it is a full on toxic relationship it was a good eye opener for me I got to see what a toxic relationship does to a man.

Really sickening to see a healthy young man turn into a very unhealthy man its from her he was fine before he got involved with her, he won't stand up to her like I said he bends over backwards for her and nothing makes her happy. Gemini's are way too up beat to be with a Scorpio as they are really negative she used to drag me down I'm not as upbeat as a Gemini but I do try think positive.

You did yourself a favor Indiajones she would eventually poison your soul, funny how Scorpio's want to drag you down to their level of misery they get mad at you if you don't join them. I've been away from the Scorpio that was in my life for a little over 3.5 months I miss her in some ways but I don't miss the bad things. Do I really want to look miserable and unhappy like her BF not a chance I like my freedom, with her I found her needy and clingy.

Stil46: thanks for sharing. I experienced the same and I told her this. I told her I allowed her to kill my spirit and who I am. Unfortunately she didn't understand what it means to compromise and encourage. She constantly criticized. I don't see her being happy with anyone until she is content and happy with herself.

Posted by indiajones33
Stil46: thanks for sharing. I experienced the same and I told her this. I told her I allowed her to kill my spirit and who I am. Unfortunately she didn't understand what it means to compromise and encourage. She constantly criticized. I don't see her being happy with anyone until she is content and happy with herself.

After reading what you went through it confirms what I've experienced, as much as I tried I couldn't make her happy I could get her to laugh when she was feeling down I would look in her eyes it would make her feel better. I stood up to her not like her BF the fights her and I had she hated the fact she couldn't control me she would lash out at me. Nobody seen her temper or anger she would hide it from others. What really pissed me off she would get jealous if I talked to or women came to talk to me, really? you have a BF WTF are you jealous for. I would get the glare from her I knew she was annoyed I was talking to women in front of her.

Let me tell you when a Scorpio woman isn't happy she will turn your world upside down she did that with me pretty sure it was the jealousy bulls*** she hated seeing me happy that couldn't happen.

Funny how Scorpio's come across sweet and innocent once they know they got you in their clutches the sweet and innocent the true person comes out they say Gemini's have a whole other side Scorpio's other side stays hidden till they are comfortable enough around you.