LEO temper, betrayal, and letting go...?

Hey everyone! It's been a while since I was on the board, but I've been keeping up with everyone still. Jynja's post on Venus Retrograde had me thinking about my own problems today.

Like someone else here, I went through a devastating last year, and the people that I thought would be there for me simply weren't and they did it in such a horrible way (ostracizing & ignoring) that it completely broke me even though for the most part, we've parted ways for good. Another "friend", two-faced and manipulative as she was, came into the picture when I was down and used me before throwing me away by the end of the year, all with a smile on her face while playing the "good girl" and "helpless victim"to everyone else.

It's been a long process even getting up from where I've been, and since then I've found myself with many emotions- anger, hurt, pain, and a lot of self-hatred for letting this happen to myself. If you guys have any words of advice to get over this, I'd be grateful. It's very hard for me to let people go, but since this Saturn and Jupiter transit plus the Venus Retrograde came into play, it has led to a lot more pain than ever expected.

On top of that, I am very angry, angry enough to cause a scene the next time I see them even though I like to keep the peace (which will inevitably happen some day). I tried to be understanding and internalize my fury as me overreacting, but my family keeps pushing the idea that they really did do me wrong because they were competitive and jealous - I won't even go into that part.

So on another note, LEOS: what astrological aspects do you think contribute to your temper and how you deal with minor upsets vs. huge upsets (like betrayal)?

I'm a Plutonian Leo (Sun, Mercury, and Venus in 8th house, Pluto in Scorpio) with an Aries Moon and a Mars in Libra. Don't know how that works out, so any insight on that would be appreciated too.

In my personal experience with similar situations such as yours many moons ago it's just something you ride out, and if it gets bad you get therapy to help you sort through your issues.

A friend of mine (not a close friend) admitted she took a chance and went into Cognitive Therapy when she couldn't work through her emotions/negative mental habits.

For me betrayal is a hard pill to swallow but I I had to admit my own weaknesses and faults that contributed to the betrayal. Taking ownership was my way out from feeling betrayed. I had to reckon with myself that I should have been protective of me b/c no one is responsible for my emotional, physical and mental safety but me.

Once the pain begins to fade which will take time(a lot of time)you'll begin to be more objective about the upheavals you're experiencing.

Time. Give it time. Time heals. Corny but it's true.

Posted by tiki33
In my personal experience with similar situations such as yours many moons ago it's just something you ride out, and if it gets bad you get therapy to help you sort through your issues.

A friend of mine (not a close friend) admitted she took a chance and went into Cognitive Therapy when she couldn't work through her emotions/negative mental habits.

For me betrayal is a hard pill to swallow but I I had to admit my own weaknesses and faults that contributed to the betrayal. Taking ownership was my way out from feeling betrayed. I had to reckon with myself that I should have been protective of me b/c no one is responsible for my emotional, physical and mental safety but me.

Once the pain begins to fade which will take time(a lot of time)you'll begin to be more objective about the upheavals you're experiencing.

Time. Give it time. Time heals. Corny but it's true.

Wow-- yes. This ^

I've been toying with the idea of therapy for a while. I may decide to do a little bit of it to see how it works out.

I'm incredibly impatient to get this phase of my life over with (perhaps it is my Aries moon) because it really has been affecting all my other relationships. I feel like other people are constantly judging me like I have something sinister to hide, when really I'm just hurt and maybe a little scared. Being vulnerable was never really my suit, but since these girls happened in my life, my Leo strength and confidence has been depleted to 0% . I can't even communicate the way I used to - I'm always stumbling over my words, something that never happened before.

Thank you all for your words, though. And for reading through all of that. 🙂

Posted by Leonyne
I've been toying with the idea of therapy for a while. I may decide to do a little bit of it to see how it works out.

I'm incredibly impatient to get this phase of my life over with (perhaps it is my Aries moon) because it really has been affecting all my other relationships. I feel like other people are constantly judging me like I have something sinister to hide, when really I'm just hurt and maybe a little scared. Being vulnerable was never really my suit, but since these girls happened in my life, my Leo strength and confidence has been depleted to 0% . I can't even communicate the way I used to - I'm always stumbling over my words, something that never happened before.

Thank you all for your words, though. And for reading through all of that. 🙂

I don't know about your placements-- but to answer your first question, I have a 12th house Mars in Taurus, and it's true that I'm slow to anger.

But once I'm actually there, there is no salvaging anything because I'm done.


However, like tiki said-- I've had to look at the part I played, and that can be attributed to me ignoring my own valid, well-functioning instincts.

In my head, it sounds like this: "But who would really DO that?"

Apparently, a lot of people.

I could have avoided some of the hardships if I had listened, and believed that there are people who will smile and treat you well, only to take what's yours.

Or because they hate you for what is yours.


Placements aside, you may benefit from reading about toxic people and/or emotional vampires-- here and here.

Of course there is much more available on the subject, but it's a good start.


Idk-- it helped me, even in the workplace.

People are crazy. 😉

I say you just step outside of the whole situation and think about YOU. find some New things to do and switch your routine up some. Make new friends. come on your a Leo you have the confidence, you just have to pull it out and use it. Don't let anyone get in your head or drag you down to your level. You are good enough and you deserve the best. see that in yourself and let all the other stuff go.. or it will turn into something bigger than you care to deal with.

Life is about change, change with it... for the better. You just have to find something new to smile about and the rest will come into play.. TIME will heal all, but in the meantime, keep yourself busy and don't waste time on the negative. #perspective

Make yourself go out and do something you have never done before and try and have fun with it. Maybe re-arrange your living room or bedroom. Go break something or burn something outside and take your hurt out in a different way that keeping it inside and it turning into a Monster.

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Placements aside, you may benefit from reading about toxic people and/or emotional vampires-- here and here.

Of course there is much more available on the subject, but it's a good start.


Idk-- it helped me, even in the workplace.

People are crazy. 😉

Thank you for the links! I haven't read through all of it yet, but like you said, it is a great way to start.

You're right, people are crazy. 🙂 I guess I didn't want to see it, but in the end, I was forced to accept it anyway.

@Geminiloveleo - Thank you for the support. I've been trying out some of your suggestions out little by little, but encouragement always helps. 🙂 Love the hashtag.

@KittyKnitter - I have some really similar placements as stated above in my rant. Just like you, I have Mars Libra and I do also have Mercury in Virgo. I can really relate to the first half of your response, now I'm working on the second half. Thank you for the advice - I appreciate it. Hopefully I'll be back on track soon but in the mean time, wish me luck!