Libras are good friends but not good lovers...

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Don't get me wrong, Libras are good lovers romantically...

I'm saying this COMMUNICATION-wise. My Libra guy and I started as friends and I see him as a great communicator when we were friends. I could also tell that he is a good adviser to his other friends. The moment libra and I became lovers communication between us is no longer that open.

Question 1: Does intimacy affect a libra to communicate openly with a significant other?
Question 2: How can a lover bring back the friendship nature in Libra on an intimate relationship?

Thanks for the input in advance...
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Posted by Inertia1128
His bday is Oct.17, some site say it's on a Libra/Scorp Cusp but other sites say it's a decant. I know some of the reasons why communication geared in a different direction...I just couldn't accept why he has leways on friendships but not in an intimate relationship.



Is he born in the early 1980s?
Btw I know an Oct 17 Lib (no, they're not Lib.Scorp but almost) and yes they're very much into career w/ no time for relationships, maybe thats why you say communication lacking.. he's probably not extremely invested at this point..

And leeways on friendship because friendships are no strings.. relationships.. to a commitophobe it means alot (aka scary!)

I think it could be the Venus in Sag
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Posted by LadyLibra12

If you want the communication or friendship to come back, I think that the best way to get that result would be to approach him--but lightly and gently. If you come on too strong or are overbearing, he might perceive it as being clingy or controlling and in that case, alarm bells will start going off for him. However, if you approach him softly, and with understanding, he's more likely to respond positively.



Yes he did respond in the past the way you said it. But him responding positively means that I should forget something he did in the past and there would be no further discussions on the topic. On my part I want him to open up more and explain to me why he had to do it. He is shutting down the communication on things that could implicate himself...I know it's a guy thing too but how would I be able to understand him unless he opens up.
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He was born in late 60's. :-p His moon is in Virgo, Mercury in Libra and Venus in Scorpio



Oh sorry I confused your details with another thread you posted. Yeah it must be the Venus in Scorpio.. they are silent types.. mostly for the power and revenge.
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I was confused with the cusp and the decant also in previous threads...but I guess you are right that he is more of a decant. And yes I see the silence in him as a power struggle...being the Sag that I am...he used to tell me he can never win in an argument with me so he prefers not to talk...true enough he does win in silence...and I always give-in specially if the silence is getting to be too lengthy for me. He was able to hold the silence with me for a week a month ago, I yielded. Right now I'm holding the silence for 4days and I'm trying to prove him a point...I just don't know if I could sustain it...
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"Right now I'm holding the silence for 4days and I'm trying to prove him a point...I just don't know if I could sustain it..."

4 days? Maybe even a year, or two.. they can go on forever.. just take note.. and no, no exaggeration!



even if libra loves the person that much??
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Yes. They will show love through other ways.. (ie actions) especially not speech if they don't think it serves their cause.
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Posted by spica
Ya, you probably should use your infectious humor and fun to jolt him out of silence.. just be yourself.. unless you have key scorpio planets, then you can play the game forever too 🙂



Aside from my Sun I have Sag in my 4planets, my Uranus and Pluto is in Libra. I don't know if that add up...I do jolt him out of silence, if I'm being the friendly and calm lady to him... 😄

If I'm being the true Saggy that I am he would NOT respond...lol!
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But I want him to speak up again and treat me as his bestfriend, but you are right I have to work around with him and not against him...



You can't force him; the more you want it, the more he'll resist.. and no I meant you have to work around him and not he around you..

I don't even know how to put it in a better way but here it goes..

(I will end here because my knowledge's until here only...)
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Sorry Spica my grammar is bad, but I do get what you mean. It should be "work around him" not adding "with" to it. And yes PP I did become playful with him in the past even on-line. 😉

My libra guy may have ignored me for a day or 2 in the past but he did explain to me the reasons why he didn't get on-line once I asked him. Normally the reasons are the ones I've posted in GeminiSoul's thread...
1. He is too busy working on something.
2. He wants some alone time (this happens when he has personal problems).
3. He wants TV time, lounging or vegging out.

The cause for long silence are the following:
4. He doesn't wanna argue with you.
5. He avoids your prying eyes if he happens to be at fault and would let you feel that you are the one at fault...(lol!)
On these last two we normally have long silence cause I refuse to yield and typically we have issues that I want us to discuss but he'd rather not, thus, he would only chat with me when we talk about other topics. If I pushed for the topic he doesn't like he would give me the silent treatment. I know libras doesn't want arguments, and just fun conversations. But at the same time I want him to treat me as his bestfriend just like before, where we can talk anything under the sun, even relationship issues.

I want him to open up more basically. In one of the threads I checked out on previous days one libran said that you don't normally talk out your emotions. So, I'm guessing that's where the problem lies, intimacy really shuts down a libra's openness in terms of communication because you don't want to talk out your feelings of anger, hatred, love, and other strong emotions. As what you said Spica he'd rather show it in actions...and that's true of him.

BUT, is there a way or a possibility that someone like me can make a libra guy open up his emotions? I know some would say that talking out their emotions is NOT a guy thing, but I don't have problems with it on Aries and Sag guys. But with this one libra I'm having a hard time...
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Hey Inertia,

I think it's partly the Venus in Scorpio thing.
Plus you're a Sag and hav no probs with Aries or Sag because both signs communicate in the same way.
Libras tend to live in their head (its a good way to maintain peace of thought), and especially with that Virg moon and Libra Merc he's pretty intellectual and may not like fun more than quiet solitude.


"So, I'm guessing that's where the problem lies, intimacy really shuts down a libra's openness in terms of communication because you don't want to talk out your feelings of anger, hatred, love, and other strong emotions. As what you said Spica he'd rather show it in actions...and that's true of him."

I think there is a place for everything under the sun, and this is especially so for Libra I think. Most libs prefer the 'concept' form rather than the real thing (which may not fit their ideal). Plus they may not like to talk so much.. you can't force him, it has to be spontaneous. He'll prolly sense when you're trying to force something out of him and the Venus in Scorpio will resist

Silence is prob how they control their environment. I haven't really met a Libra who's like an energizer bunny gung-ho at all times.. they arent really known for their energy.. but when they're ready, they will talk to you, just don't force it.
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Posted by spica

Oh sorry I confused your details with another thread you posted. Yeah it must be the Venus in Scorpio.. they are silent types.. mostly for the power and revenge.



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But it's basically due to ego/ immaturity.. he put himself above you, not under.



Posted by spica

You can't force him; the more you want it, the more he'll resist.. and no I meant you have to work around him and not he around you..




Description of Venus in Scorpio from this site:
(http://www.myastrologybook.com/Venus-in-Scorpio-all-about-Scorpio-Venus.htm)<BR> "You're extremely magnetic to the opposite sex and very passionate, yet may be inhibited as well. If true, don't you be taken in by your intense sexuality: this persona may be covering up unconscious elements in your psyche you have yet to deal with. You feel a need to control your intimate partners, and have difficulty relating to them on an equal level. When someone gets close to you, you can become fearful of compromise and cooperation because they entail an element of letting go of the control with which you feel you need to protect yourself."

Analyzing all of this, I realized that it's been a constant power struggle between him and me. My Sag nature is clashing with his Scorp in Venus. His idea of compromise is not fitting well with him being in power. I remember he once told me "I could never win in an argument with you", after saying this he gave me the silent treatment. In silence he does regain his power, and to break the silence I have to yield.

Posted by LadyLibra12

If you want the communication or friendship to come back, I think that the best way to get that result would be to approach him--but lightly and gently. If you come on too strong or are overbearing, he might perceive it as being clingy or controlling and in that case, alarm bells will start going off for him. However, if you approach him softly, and with understanding, he's more likely to respond positively.
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I will definitely follow this one to keep it smooth-sailing with a libran. 🙂

Thanks guys and gals! 🙂🙂🙂