Hey Ichthyo!

Give me some of your Pisces wisdom pieces to ponder!

Take Care, My Friend!
Star

star,

i was interested in something you mentioned about your own relationship with the aquarius man of your dreams.

you were talking about the big "i love you" confession, and your unwillingness to be the first one to say it. i think this is a pretty common issue in most relationships, and mine is no exception.

my situation, as you know, is with a virgo girlfriend. i don't have any illusions about her "being the one," because i'm almost positive she's not. i need to be with someone who shares my inclination toward open communication. however, i feel very strongly about her, and as time progresses, these feelings continue to intensify.

my concerns are as follow -

1) after my last serious relationship, which was an intense, first-love type thing, i'm no longer certain i know what real love is. like, where the line between infatuation and actual love is drawn. i think about her all the time, and i would be greatly affected if we broke up. at the same time, i'm over here planning on a breakup in the future, and thinking in terms of someday being single again. essentially, i don't know if i'm really in love with her or not.

2) she takes a very long time to figure things out, like how she's feeling and so forth (sort and file), so i'm afraid that when (or if) i tell her, she won't be ready to hear it. i'm afraid it will make her withdraw, and cause the downfall of the very thing i'm trying to pursue.

3) what are the chances of a cautious, intellectually-oriented virgo being the first to admit feelings of love?

let me know your thoughts!

z

whoops,

i meant to sign that last message as ichthyo. 🙂

-ichthyo

Hey Ichthyo!

All right...so you did give me some things to ponder...I was just expecting Piscean gems...bits of wisdom for me to expand my horizons with!!

But...this is OK...I am done complaining! LOL!

I will try to answer your questions to the best of my ability...but, it will probably be in a round about pattern as I think things through! (I suppose that is my usual pattern!!)

Well, I have been in relationships where love was spoken of too quickly and could not have really been truly felt at that point...the last relationship I had, before the one I am in now, had many good components and was almost perfect...he said, "I love you"...I said, "I love you" and time progressed...eventually the relationship reached a stalemate, and, I broke up with him. It was the hardest thing I have ever done. I did love him.

Did he love me? He said he did. He says he still does! (That is hard!...I got a cat...he is allergic to cats, and, I knew that it would be sort of easy to fall into the same patterns...and never have what I want and never be truly happy! But, the cat would be my security blanket!)

Did I feel like he loved me? (Crucial question!!!) In the beginning, I did. Eventually, I knew that I came second. Second to fame and fortune! He didn't have time for family get-togethers...his family or mine! He didn't have time for friends...and barely had time for me...I put up with listening how "next year will be better for too long"! Then, one day, I realized he was happy in the relationship the way it was...in which case, it was up to me...
I just wanted simplicity...family, friends, being together...
He wanted fame and fortune which meant the last year of our relationship I saw him 12 times maximim!! Not good! In leaving him, I hope he learned that he must put effort into the relationship and compromise...

I could not continue in such a relationship!

Do I believe he loved me? Yes, I do. In his way. He gave me some family heirlooms, that I tried to return in the end...he said, "There is no one that I want to have these more than you"...(shit, huh!)

I have learned that you have to look at what you want and what the other person wants and if they match...

I asked my Mom once about the one love for one person idea I had...she said, "one at a time"...

I have learned that love is not sex. But, love is greatly enhanced, and made better by great sex!

Now, I have to think!
Star

Hi!

Whew! I am back! Scewed up on placement of some quotation marks in the last post...

OK...I might say it first (the L word) in the relationship I am in...I just don't know...I do know that it will scare him if I say it too soon! See, he wanted to "explore friendship" with a woman, since he had always jumped in and it got serious right away...
That was cool with me. But, I was attracted and wanted to explore some other areas...so, I suggested we be friends "with a twist"!! =P
So, it is my fault that things progressed as they did. The thing is, he is, like, perfect for me...and I am afraid of scaring him off! We like (possibly LOVE) each other, have great sex...actually, awesome sex..., all children and adults involved are favorable in us getting together...

The main thing is...we want the same things...we don't judge each other by the past..and our favorite thing to do is to be together! Either doing nothing or going somewhere fun...it just doesn't matter as long as we are together!

Most people experience a relationship or two or more before deciding this is "it". In order NOT to be a divorce statistic, it is important to weigh things and to be sure, or, as sure as you can be!

I am becoming a POSTer child!
Star

1) This whole thing about,is it love...what is love...well, Ichthyo, it is totally subjective! YOU decide what love means to you...and that is what you look for! Simple? NO! But, you are your best answer to what you expect, etc...
Part of the key is to love yourself and to be able to love unconditionally...
This is all I know regarding #1
Star

I don't quite know what to say regarding #2...it seems that if she feels you are her "true love", she will not withdraw...but, you must ask your self if you feel she is your "true love" or not...

Regarding #3: Virgo Women believe in "true love"...and will not speak of it until they are sure! For a Virgo woman, falling in love could take a long time, because they are deciding as they file...

Whew! Hope I helped some, my friend!

I ask one simple question of my worldly Piscean Friend...
What does "word up" mean?

Take Care, My Friend!
Star

"word up" is a borrowed expression from certain urban neighborhood communities, originally and most often used by people of african descent. the term itself communicates agreement, but can also be used as a sort of informal greeting, or "hello." i am rather fond of using these types of borrowed expressions, particularly, "yo yo yo, what it IS futhamucka," and "OOOW! gitback, HUH - in the hot tub!" and even "bitch, don't make me come in there..."

-ichthyo

all jokes aside, thank you for the responses!

i think you're right. it will take her a long time to decide how she feels, and perhaps even longer to tell me.

generally, when i see hints of how she feels, or realize certain things about how she feels, it's usually because i've straight-up asked her. you know? i guess i have to figure out the best time to ask, or the best time to tell her how i feel.

hmm. i dunno. is there any real reason to try and figure this stuff out at all?


-ichthyo

Thanks!
I sort of had an idea of the meaning of 'word up'....Thank you for your defintion! It helps!

Overall, I believe that Pisceans have good observational and excellent intuition!!!

I am sure that you are highly intuitive!
Star