Correlation between starsign and political belief?

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I am a solid Capricorn, and my views and political beliefs align almost perfectly with Conservative notions (UK Conservative, no US). I admire Lady Thatcher. I think those who work hard should succeed and Government should concentrate on those people, and those who think themselves as victims need help shaking off the victim mentality, rather than throwing out aid to compound the spiral of desperation and self-defeatism.

I have a very strong dislike for actions such as rioting, and social disharmony saddens me. I think people who do not agree with Trade Unions and wish to continue working should do so, and those who victimise them and call them scabs are nothing more than bullies.

Capricorn = conservative by nature, Conservative by name. All profiles for my sign say I am prudent, and like to conserve things. I have strong morals, and am quick to judge those who I perceive to be below me, such as criminals.

I'd imagine all Earth signs are pretty much the same.

Whats your sign, your belief, your party and what relationship do you see between them?
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I think there is something to this as well. I haven't analyzed enough real-world examples to get a good feel for a "general hypothesis" yet...fiscally conservative and socially conservative may be at variance...heck our current president (US) is supposed to be conservative but we're spending our way into oblivion. Clinton (liberal), sure he had a hot economy to work with...but seemed to manage the budget better.

Hmmm....we have a major budget deficit and a war to feed...I got it, Let's cut taxes! It is an election year isn't it...

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Capgirl,

I quite agree with what your saying. Sure, I'd say I'm a Thatcherite, but I don't believe, for instance, that Trade Unions should be abolished. I believe the threat of industrial action over health and safety matters (rather than simply chasing more money) are important in keeping employers in shape.

I also believe that a good work/life balance, as well as a fair reward payment system which gives employees incentives to work harder, both increase productivity and the quality of life.

If you have a bunch of people, even really intelligent people, who live to work (perhaps 50 hours a week), they are bound to be less motivated than those who do 30 hours a week. Sure, less quantity, but more quality.

I'd say supporting the work/life balance, employees rights in favour of unfair treatment by employers, are all Conservative values. The family and the family unit come first and foremost in the lives of Conservative people.

I'd say you are just 'normal'. A liberal to me is someone such as these (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4020235.stm), or those who want to ban foxhunting etc.

Believe it or not, they seem like the biggest walking contradiction in the history of mankind. The word 'liberty' implies tolerance and good nature for your fellow man, and how does that reconcile with dictating what others can and cannot do?
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I don't see the attraction in foxhunters hobby personally. But hey, I'm sure they don't see the attraction in a hobby many urban dwellers hold dear either - i.e. going out on the piss Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday nights and making life a misery for your fellow man never mind wild animals.

The points for me were:

1) We do kill animals to eat them, and for other purposes the vast majority of mankind has always seen as legitmate.
2) Laws, to me, are only legitmate when they are designed to let one man exercise his human rights without interrupting another man's right to exercise his.

For example, banning playing loud music at 3am seems sensible, despite the fact it curtails the party lovers rights to play music, because it protects his neighbours freedom to choose to get some sleep.

But banning hunting (and what next... fishing?) does not uphold the rights of any human being, but does take away rights from others. So I don't see any point to it.

3) The ban was used tactically by Tony Blair to show his populist credentials, seeing as Foxhunting is the passtime of many toffs and generally people the masses see as undesireable.

Bullfighting, in Spain, looks cruel to me also. Yet it's a popular event with the masses. That's why Spain's ruling Socialist government hasn't touched it with a bargepole.
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Well I tried to analyze about 50 people on the national level of politics (US) and their sun sign...no awesome correlation yet. I think it is probably a combination of many factors (including probably, yes, your environment--think of the blue and red sections on the map at election time), though I'd like to believe that one factor is the most important in forming your viewpoint. I think that factor might be the moon.

In my reading, I have come to understand that the moon shows who you are, and what comes most naturally to you, while the sun sign shows you are becoming. Pretty big difference really. So maybe the moon sign shows how you naturally feel about the way the world *should* work. Isn't that what politics is all about? How should we do this, that, and whatever.

Now, my moon is in aquarius (hey whose beliefs do I know better than my own), and I basically desire freedom on every level. I don't want a big government telling me how to run my life or holding my hand all the time (Conservative). I also don't think that society (thru gov't) has any business forcing me to have a child that I don't want (Pro-choice, liberal).

In addition, I am pro-gun (conservative). I think people should have the choice to arm themselves if they so choose and go hunting if they so choose. This is a basic right...actually it's more of a privilege. I do think if you commit a crime with a gun, whoops, you violated society's rules (yeah, this isn't Nam, there are rules). You shouldn't get to touch another gun again. You had freedom, you made the wrong choice, and you lost it.

Now some liberals like to go the other direction and say take away the guns, thinking somehow they are the problem. What they're really saying is "I don't trust you." You being "the people." That is unfortunate. I like to at least give people a chance. If you screw up (i.e., impose on another's freedom), then you lose privileges. Not before.

Holy crap I go off on tangents sometimes.

So sure, I am "conservative" and "liberal," those are just headings where people have conveniently categorized viewpoints on topics. My thoughts really boil down to one thing. Freedom. I want to be free, and I will certainly allow you the same right. (Of course, my rights end where your nose begins.)

Isn't that what the world *should* be about? 😉

MIA
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